if you're a sweet thing for now, and then when generation industry feels like there's the rate the business dw news line from balance is came, hold up for all sides. serious president, reportedly please the capital as rebel forces store them into damascus. the rebels declared the city free from a sobs 24 year rule, and also the style of a new era for the syrian people. so as prime minister says he is ready to assist with a peaceful transfer of the

god else as well come to the program which we begin with breaking news from syria where president basha also is raising has collapsed outside, reportedly fled the capital damascus to an unknown destination of the rebel forces entered the city, meeting little resistance. the insurgents have declared the city free from us as a rule which last of 24 years. the rebels lost their offensive against the regime less than 2 weeks ago. crowds have been celebrating the capital and across syria. so as prime minister mohammed ali says he is ready to co operate in a peaceful transfer of pop, with any new leadership chosen by the people is also called for free elections. let's listen to the statement who released. it will be on the bill that you spoke to you and you know that this country can be a normal one in the country to build good relations with its neighbors and with the

world without entering into any regional alliances or blocks have been fighting with what we leave this matter to any new leadership that will be chosen by the syrian people. get to the yes to shop shortly. we're ready to cooperate with the new leadership and facilitate what they need. so that various government files can be transferred smoothly and systematically in a way that preserves the states facilities should. instead this would be shifted in manhattan. g b my from my off at the uh for some of the us is on this topic. i enjoyed in the studio by our photograph 0 honda is who was born into that boat and photos these. this story for us very, very closely cuz you have this has been a very long and bloody civil war. did you expect it to be over so quickly? or hello, garrett, it is a decades long dictatorship, 13 years over 13 years of war. and for all of it to end within less than 2 weeks is

unbelievable to most of syrian people. i did not see this coming before the offensive, but in recent days as rebels advanced in lightning speed, it became clear that loss of time was up. it was very fast. is this the advance? and part of that is because assets closest allies were turning on him in the last moments to redeem themselves, to save themselves. and a lot of the rebels were coordinating directly with the syrian army general saying, this is your last chance. here's the number you can call, tell us where you are. cooperate with us, let us into the city. and that's why we had the best case scenario and damascus was little blood shed, little fighting. they were able to capture the capital. now, to most of those days, of course, what can we expect, let's say in the short, the next few days or in the next few days, there will be more as

a understanding of what we're looking at politically. but i want to also look at what is coming out now. i seen hundreds of names of prisoners, political prisoners that are circulating, people are trying to find their family members. they've been in prison. some of them for since the start of the war, some of them for even longer for decades. so they're brutal at histories of torture . all of these stories are going to come out. we should expect to see trials of people that the rebels will now capture to hold them accountable. and once they reconcile with all this pain, once they hold people accountable, then there will be talk as how syria can move on and find a new political future. and now there was a different opposition groups involved in the, in the war against the regime and syria. can you give us a brief overview, a rough overview, who them, what they want? yes, there's many actors involved in syria. i'll keep it brief and focus on the main 3

groups that are involved in this because they will be the ones doing most of the negotiation. so 1st we had, hey, at the data sham. that was the, uh, as long as the extreme is rebel group that is classified by the us as a terrorist organization. but they were leading this offensive, and in recent days had changed their standards. they've changed the way they look the way they present themselves. they've assured minorities that they're going to be safe under their rule. so that's the 1st group. and the 2nd group is the syrian free army. they're backed by turkey. you're also all of these groups are combined in their opposition to assad. but now we will see how they get along with us. that's out of the picture. and at last, i want to talk about the kurds, because curds make up 10 percent of the syrian population, more or less. but the kurdish faction the to syrian democratic forces.

they're back by the us and they controlled around 25 percent of syria including the oil fields. so there will have to be some kind of settlement between these different groups that become a flash point. i mean, the oil field, the fact that it's 25 percent of syria, but they only 10 percent of the population. yes, there will have to make concessions, i imagine in the future. and not only that, but the rebels being backed by turkey, who has, you know, its own agenda with the kurds. they accuse the kurdish a faction of housing what they therapy, take a terrorist. so there's a lot of clashes there, but so far these groups have signaled their readiness to hold talks and well outside was losing his grip on the country. actually, all these groups started capturing more and more territory to have something more to bargain with. ones at the negotiation start within a total of the tucker side

a bit later on. the program is built in johnson and it's tumble at now. the old, this very diverse group or group these groups. do you have any hope that they can govern together? um there is a lot of hope at the moment, but we also have to take into account that we've seen extra ms groups like is, is make a come back in this time. so it's not just about these groups, but what happens with all the armed uh, extreme fighters that are going around who's going to bring them under control? are they going to join the army? what's going to happen on the ground? i do have hope, but i am watching cautiously as well. i can imagine i. it also was supported by someone noises in syria, like the christians, the, or the wife muslims, and the drew's book, and they expect now we've precautions how the rebels themselves have said that

they're not out for revenge. they've said that they want to show mercy whatever. however, you want to interpret that, but they do have lists of generals of high ranking people who have been responsible for some of the atrocities that we've seen in syria. so they want those people, they've said, but when it comes to the general minority populations, they've told them that they will be safe. now, not everybody's believe these reassurances and we've seen a lot of our white minority people who are known as like assets loyalist base. there on the syrian coast, they've fled the country, and a lot of the kurdish population has also been displaced from a level because again, they don't know if what's been promised is actually going to be delivered in a very briefly. do you have hope that this can lead to a transfer of syria into

a democratic nation here and i'm very happy to see the end of a dictatorship. i grew up in syria. i was indoctrinated in that education system. we saw their statues and their pictures everywhere. and now for the 1st time, everyone is trying to imagine a syria that looks different. so i would like to see how that looks, but it's hard to imagine something you've actually never seen represented. i have hope it can work, but it can also open up more problems. but like we said, with all these different factions, and as long as groups, if there will be a secular society or a religious rule, and what that means for women, for minorities, and both, just have to see how that works. we will thank you very much because we will harness the the turkey has taken most syrian refugees in any other country and syria is living in turkey. have been celebrating officer rebel forces to control of damascus and bushel

a loss of fled the city and assemble. syrians have been dancing, chanting, and waving flags used by serious opposition to mock the rebels victory. many syrians in turkey have said they could not return to the towns and villages while outside remained impala. the united nation says 3600000 syrians have been living in turkey since the syrian war broke house in 2011. and joining me now from his stumble as all correspond to dory and jones during turkey back, some of the rebel forces in syria. so is the end of the assad regime south of it took is government is now supporting. oh, absolutely, texas president, right? yep. type 3rd one was uh, congratulating the rebels and was the predicting that they would cease to mass cause an over for a sobs, the syrian president. but it has to be set the only, uh, a month or so before present. as one of those quoting for talks,

we've helped us out as a means to reconciling the 2 countries. i'm particularly the return to the millions of syrian refugees living and talking about the one speaking to meet us at outside has paid the price of rejecting those pictures. and those rejection is that'd be towards, in many ways is seen by some i look as a trigger for this operation against the side, although on christ being emphasizing had no role in the actual uh, overflow of assault. but turkey is backing one of the militias, the syrian national nomics who the pod take in those operations and well took. he says he doesn't have any direct links to a high atari alshaun, which is a designated terrace organization. most people believe that turkey has still pretty close links, it provides a and supplies to the regions that are under the control. so most people think that this operation would not have been carried out, at least with long cars approval. now with this new phase of a transition of instability in syria will turkey trying to extend its influence in

the, in the country. while i think such needs have given the father took, he was one of the strongest and most steadfast supporters of the opposition. for c confirmed by many of them, the back has disappeared, took heated stands. we've done providing supplies and a to them, allowing convoys to continue. and also giving training an army to some of those groups as well. so talk you will be looking for a return on those investments, given the fact that for so many years taking has been packing the rebels and has paid a very heavy price move, hosting millions of refugees in turkey. so on, definitely talk you will see the extension of his influence into syria by shallow saw for many years with arrival of the ones he was mainly seen as i'm anyways of threats, especially given his clothes ties to iran, which is a regional volleyball of turkey. now turkey in many ways will be looking at the caching on the, on it support, i'm looking to an extension of its influence into this region. and that will also pay well we've, it's overtures to washington, especially with the incoming president of donald trump. this will be

a very powerful message on the line and how important turkey is to the united states in the region, as well as also to the europeans as well. given the fact that is, has many ways a gate keep up for refugees and will on the line impulses again of how and pulled oncourse in this very volatile region. and also for ethics going forward in terms of developing the market. democracy and stability in the region. the very brief, the one big issue for testing is of course, the millions of refugees from syria. you've mentioned them. it is that one of the ad was main interests. now to let the people go back to syria, briefly, if you can. all the absolutely, this has turned out to be a major to, to a liability for present. the other one is a growing dissatisfaction on happiness over those ongoing presence of millions of refugees. in fact, there's been is to be nearly 2000000 refugees. here is sample. the prospect that those people could be returning back will be a major please. depends on the one. the key question is, will they be ready to return given the uncertainty of the future of syria at the

present moment? who doesn't correspond to the door in jones? the reporting from is done, but we'll thank you very much story and you're watching dw news. let's get you a quick reminder of our top story. a serious president, basra south has flipped the capital, damascus to an unknown destination. of the rebel forces entered the city to limited resistance. the insurgents have declared the city free from a subs. decades though, i'm rule less than 2 weeks after launching a lightning speed offensive in they know off the company. and that's it from me and the new. see my colleagues, marianna evans, people have a world news updates for you. the very latest from syria at the top of the don't go

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