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to, well, i think this is still to see, i think right now the early days of, you know, what just happened in the neighboring country. and i think nobody else in this period office 60 day a ceasefire, which is a temporary cease for right now in the conflict with a husband law. and of course we should not forget the war in gaza is continuing. and there's a lot of pressure here in israel, at least right now to look at the face of the uh, is brand new hostages that remain in garza. so i think it's too early to say where this is going at the moment. right? i'm afraid we have to leave it there, that was dw, corresponding tonya kramer and jerusalem. many things. now today's events also marked a historic day for syrians living abroad, many of whom have expressed cautious optimism that the end of the sod families more than 50 or rule will mark make way rather for a better chapter. let's have a listen to some reactions from lebanon, which is home to a large number of syrian refugees. i do that some of them are, of course,
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it's much better not much better. for example, i have to do military service, but now there's nothing holding me back to. this means i can go to syria. we used to live in fear, but now i can go wherever i want, as well as we don't know how this new situation that unfold, what they do with the insurance, what they before the situation was bad, but now it's back to god's wedding, right. not sure yet, if it will get much better or just send that to, let's say things we'll get that to god willing. hopefully syria will return to how it used to be an even better thing. sorry, tony, to norma. and now we can all go to syria. i mean, what happened didn't city of is great. i mean that was never expected to happen, not in our lifetime. we had minutes. every conscription do choose to do a stipend from now this is what brings us joy. while the problem, the earlier d w 's mom actually today was at the 11 east erie in border. i asked him what
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people are hoping for him now that assad's rule is over? yes it's. it's indeed a very emotional time for the housing of the syrians here in dublin on. but also for many, many been easy to support the syrian uprising and detestable charlotte. i thought that today was a choice of the for them as the house is ophelia and celebrated the down full off the would you a read so that many of them in groups on. busy the way to the syrian border here to give it to the syrian border here. and, you know, we talked to lots of them women in mind and they will share the same feelings of happiness and uh, joy and the, you know, of the wish. but i'm thinking that they want to go back to their hometown and we build their country. and as they said, they want to rebuild the country that is not corrupt. and that is not ruled by a. busy dictator,
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that's what they told us here and that the they said is that this is a moment that they, i've been waiting for a long uh to, to see to see now we've been seeing some of the products that you were able to shoot in syria today. what else can you tell us about your journey there? yeah, so this is indeed an exception of the day and seen in baby who they who was a ghost town this morning. but as we made our way to the boot damascus highway as we close. so we approached to the syrian border, the, the more crowded to see a became the cause, the so many syrians were just dancing and groping by the sidewalk, celebrating the down for last review. and you know, many of them made their way last year through where the, the, the, but he's seen crossing and, and many of them thousands of them use that made their way back home. and i was
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able to briefly go inside sir. yeah. to just look, look at the scene and so yeah, i went back here to my position and as you were seeing there, this is an exceptional day for many people in the one that they've been waiting for for over a decade. so what exactly was the atmosphere like inside of syria or yeah, it really depends on who you ask uh menu menu, all of the people that we. busy spoke to are very happy about going back to sooner . yeah. going back to their home hometown. uh i bought the others and we've seen on the other side of the road. so basically crossing from the seo yeah towards the been under just fleeing the latest events in sierra. yeah. they were worried they had the kids and you know, the elderly family members and they were uncertain about what was happening and they just want to come here. others were just grouping onto the minis uh,
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on the bodies side of the border. and they're very happy about the doubtful aside. but they don't want to yet to uh, go back home because, you know, they're left with uncertainty. they want to make sure that, that the next phase and c area will look much, much brighter, and call them up for them before they go back home. and of course, this is a joyous day for some, but at the same time, tensions remain. we've seen reports the lebanese army has said, additional troops, lebanese steering board or what exactly is behind that move? yes, so the bodies army wanted to be prepared for the k o. so that might be generated on the influx of thousands of the syrians. that was the uh, the syrian border, just like what happened that today either uh, you know, uh, crossing from lebanon to see a or the other way around the been east harm you wanted to deal with that. busy k, us uh, already and uh, you know, the army is going to been, he's army was very worried about the collapse, the rapid collapse of the sea,
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of the machine forces on the other side of the a folder. and as, as the rebels, the militant troubles over the, but he's on the wanted to make sure that it's the, you know, these, these border are safe. and where does this leave the many syrians living in lebanon? is there any sign that they will choose to go back? well, it's good. again, it depends on who you ask. thousands of, uh, the syrians here and depend on already made their way back. so we've seen them this morning. we've talked to many of them. others are just waiting here and up and on. they want to come back. and one point in the future of course, spot their, you know, they want to make sure that there is a livelihood in sierra. yeah. that'd be events. well settled and they feel secure. so come back home at, at one point or another. all right, i'm afraid we have to leave it there that was dw as well. how much way to reporting from the lebanese border with syria?
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thank you very much for that update. the united nation says the challenges i had remain enormous and it stands ready to help syrians with a peaceful transitional power that one that respects also citizens and state institutions. let me urge oral surgeons prioritize the dialogue, unity and respect for international humanitarian law and human rights. stay safe to rebuild their society mysteries, that there must be a collective effort to secure peace and dignity full and the standard it ready to support the sodium people into doing it towards a stable and inclusive future. decided and saved by the syrian people themselves. here in germany, syrians and exile are also celebrating the end of the sod regime in berlin. they have been out on the streets for hours waving flags used by the syrian
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opposition chanting and honking horns. germany is home to nearly a 1000000 syrians to fund the civil war in their home country. in 2015, most of them were granted refugee status and given the right to live and work here, the. now we're waiting for a german chancellor. it was actually, it's to make a statement about the situation in syria until then i'm joined by dw as chief political editor of michelle cruz. now, here in the studio. so i'm sure you know, what do you think schultz is going to say in his statement today? well, we already saw written statements come from what i've sold. so he said that this was good news coming out of syria. at the same time, he called on syria to now a to it, to rule of law and to integrates and allow for all religious leaves and all groups to find a home there essentially. so at the same time, this is a taking part in the do relation of the series and people more than a 1000000
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a syrian refugees, of course, here in germany. and at the end of a dictatorship, of course is not the beginning of in republic or democracy. and that's very much the point that needs very much aware of. and also concerned about right now. and is it just said there, there are almost a 1000000 syrian refugees living here in germany that were taken up to the migration crisis in 2015. so what does this change in leadership and syria mean for germany internally? well, 1st of all, and it depends on the dynamics that we see unfold in syria right now. but there's also specific dynamics here in germany that have why the implication for the stability of your fonts is struggling to get a budget to get the fonts is weak at gemini, is facing for selections, some selections in february. and here we can now expect the migration issue and specifically relating to syrian refugees who are here in germany to take center stage. and the fall right has been able to be very successful in regional polls
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that we saw over the course of this year. and the fall rightful. now jump on this very issue. and the question of what this means for syrians who are in germany, where the aside being toppled means that the very reason for the refugee status has now been removed. but again, this depends on the dynamics that we see on fold and what the syria overnight is able to become a more stable stage where negotiations these into a new, new government. despite the victory of this one group right now, which is a whole host of groups together, whether we see violence and that would be yes again, another reason for refugees and for people to flee the country. now is there anything that the german government, or maybe the airplane partners could do to help influence that transition of power within syria and your opinion? i think if anything we saw over the last week and that the influence is very limited, essentially, syria was given up as
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a sphere of influence to russia to iran, who is now suffered a push back here to the surprise, surprise, victory of revel groupings that a box by turkey, if anything, this is a victory of photography, as well as thinking of course its own security and stability. interest in relation to the northern syrian curtis population at once, a buffer zone that, that so it just adds another player to the equation of do politics in this region which will have why the implications for the middle east and of so it is a p all success as just in the weeks leading up to donald trump at entering his 2nd us presidency. talkie will now establish itself as a player to take a seat at the table when any negotiations over them at least take face as well. and with this change, the power balance between the you in turkey or long term, if it is becoming a power broker in the for the development of syria. well,
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let's put it this way. i mean, the, you already needed tacky. it had this and deal over migraines. to the fed from syria, the most of them stayed in tacky and the you paid money towards and they're up keeping their as now turkey has a stronger position, but it already has a strong position because it is the one point of contact of both for vasa but also ukraine over ross's war of aggression against ukraine as well. so and yes, it will have implications. the europeans will find themselves in a position where they need to make sure that they take talk is interest some board as well when they are concerned about their own security interest. now let's come back to the german elections. will be events in syria, as you said, it will probably give a little bit more, i mean, ition to some of the far right. how do you see it impacting the election campaign, running up to the staff elections next year?
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well it, so this way that the man who has connie in the leads in these directions is not old . i've sold the incumbent tons that is free police match the lead to the opposition . conservative cd you potty, he's very reluctant to react to what's happening and 0 right now. he would quite clearly prefer to continue having an election campaign on the weak economy in germany, which appears to be in basically on the way down. if that is his strength, that's what he can score on. both read is leader of the opposition and off. so it's the time stuff i previously had launched attempts though, on successful ones to get migration as an issue of the table. this did not succeed . now it will have a major come back and although you see elections are in the end about the economy, stupid to quote someone. and they are, we can expect to see the question re ignited over. what now happens to
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those refugees who are here in germany more than a 1000000 of, from syria. and do you think that will increase the pressure and the calls from the far right to maybe encourage some of the syrians to leave germany? or do you think some of the more mainstream parties will rally around them? i think that's a very diplomatic way of pushing it. on the fall, rice has been accused of speaking of re migration. that's a word that was used in connection with the fall, right? a, if the policy and in the events we see on fold right now will probably be lend new meaning to what that could mean and concrete tons. and it puts pressure on what i sold, but also the other democratic policies to respond and to actually have their own time. what will happen next? now of course, all of shorts is as p d has not been doing very well. the social democratic party has not been doing long recent pulling developments in syria week and his position coming into this
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election campaign. they put him further on the defensive, potentially. but it's really too early to say how this will unfold. now it really depends on what kind of stability or instability we see evolve over the coming days and weeks in syria. right. and with the election coming up the so far, do we see any type of um, coalition or among the parties forming around this migration issue? or is this really going to be a field that is going to be dominated by default, right? a of the party here. well, let's put it this way be they fall right? of course has an inherent interest on pushing this as an issue a to, to make this the core issue because that's the one issue. they were successfully scoring on the fart. if the policy were on their way out, just before 2015, when suddenly the influx of my friends and refugees here to germany, a change.
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