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as dreams coming through, making money. having a son with non falls injunction stops. december 13th on d. w. the this is the date of your news live from berlin. moscow grand syrian, president bashar, all sort asylum. that's according to russian state, media. assad for the syrian capital, damascus, as rebels seized the city and ransacked his palace outside the streets. syrians are celebrating what rebels are calling a new era for the country. and they are joined by millions of syrians living in exile around the world from greece to france for u. k. and here in germany as well, many are seen. they'll now return to their homeland after fleeing serious 13 year old civil war. the
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spend there until thanks for joining us. russian state media say president bush or whole also, it has been granted asylum in moscow after fleeing his country. this comes after his reading collapsed in a lightning rumble offensive that began less than 2 weeks ago. the syrian revel commander, i'll be more humble. lunney has been greeted by cheering crowds and damascus is to store it. will my musk he's the leader of the is on this rebel group higher, rear or some also known as h t. s. the group let the offensive against sounds regime assad government was backed by russia and run to a steering rebels announced the fall of president bush oral assad government. and would you from damascus emerged showing a desolate and deserted pallet. presidential palace. some people appear to be leading items including tvs, well armed men and civilians,
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room deserted hallways and rooms that once belonged to the hosted president and his father. before him. think of san family has ruled syria for more than half a century. let's cross over now to d. w. a. russia analyst, konstantin, god, in vilnius. so constantine, how is russia reacting to the downfall of the i was? did president bush are all on side? well, there is nothing added rush you reaction. we have just very brief statements by the state of states press. i don't see that the shuttle also out there and his family were given a solemn in brochure. but otherwise, very, this being said, what people notice and what i noticed is that an official communications of the term terrorists that has been used only last week with regard to the rebels is now being replaced by more neutral terminology. and there is no mention of the word
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terrace, it's like a groups participating in the serial conflict and, and the kind of more bleak descriptions if you wish. so does it appear to you that moscow is attempting to pivot? machine stands now that assad has lost power in the region as well. i understanding is that russians could save its uh, naval base and its air base on the syrian coast near lucky and photos. and uh, uh, the most full that's do that. and they have to negotiate with the rebels. and this is, i think we'll see whether that will happen or not. because the confirmed reports on us, on social media that russians are kind of rolling up uh, in the event create thing. i mean, uh our base which is not far from those ports. uh but it has to be verified so far . uh, there is no decisive confirmation. this really happens if it wouldnt then disclose
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the russians have to negotiate because of these base is very important. these bases are very important, not totally full. what used to be the support for the cost of reasoning, but also for russian operations in libya, where the russians are supporting the, the bottom of the warlords. for the, for the foster and the full, the russian mercenaries ensued that operate in saddam boats all being supplied via uh the, the, the basic zurich know, according to russian state, media assault and his family have arrived in moscow. we have been granted asylum. why is russia it's still protecting them this? well, i think that this is the answer to the of the kremlin. we don't, uh, basically we don't leave our allies in the left. that's. that's if you wish, the statement. of course that is only the, the, the awesome family i think that lots of people that were in the regime will not
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protected the tool. but i think that's the least important can do as a courtesy to an ally that the loss of is peace, power. and this is in this respects a typical button, but uh uh, this is also a very, i would say for podium that's a day when just prestige in the middle east was significantly shepherd. and i don't think you'll be able to recoup these strategic losses any time. so now this lightning and surgeon campaign took the world by surprise. however, in the past 10 years, we've seen president food and standing behind us on time and time again. and actually using his air support to greatly support the president of syria. why did he don't do that this time? well, i think we have a different situation on the ground. uh, there are, there are, there is no his belie anymore. no iranian allies to provide, to provide support for what used to be the full series of regimes. reynolds usually
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provided they'll come up uh and most of the service and uh, providing a cover of full, the serial army which actually dissipated right away would have been completely useless. and now while i traveled in syria quite a few times in the area, we have a russian base as long as pretty much squeezed snow between the sea and the rebels . so we'll see how it will work out. but the thing for putting the concern is the basic going to keeping the bases if you wish to. alright, that was due to the rush and it was constantine. i got thank you very much for your analysis. the syrian d. s for us celebrating the fall of president bush oral, aside around the world, a large number of serious have been living as refugees for a decade or more, while many serious and well serious futures and certain many are looking forward to seeing their homeland again. the accumulation on the streets of
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damascus. often more than 15 years of civil war, the side families have sent you a little over. sylvia crumbled in a mass of days. the happiest day of my life, we've been reborn. this is the day when the believers rejoice with gods victory. the phone of bush out on the side signifies the building up a new city for us. a life filled with whole, just as humanity, dignity, and freedom. millions of syrians were displaced by the civil war. while most internally displaced more than 6 and a half 1000000, select the country, neighbouring turkey, hers smaller than half stock number please do. we are so happy. a side is definitely gone and all would be much more beautiful to get it. so thank you so much to turkey too. i don't know what to say. you're welcome to us for so long to
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move there. i mean, we just, we will return to syria, we will rebuild it again. everything will be better, god willing, we thank you, turkey and president air to walk, but the 111 on which also i bought assuming you has hosted one and a half 1000000 syrian refugees to do that. so i'm, i'm, i'm, of course, it's much better not much better. for example, i have to do military service, but now there's nothing holding me back to. this means i can go to syria. we use it and say that now i can go wherever i want. and that's when i left, i was a little boy, i was made homeless, but now i'm going back. i hope our country stay is liberated. germany is home to the largest city and community in u as in use of assets down full spread, thousands validate invalid and across the continent isn't low please. uh, would you like to just we last told many years ago you helped me in so long about
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yet. but now hope has been done. uh yeah, it doesn't provide any for what the, what lies ahead of this of ones comes out to be able to express ourselves freely. again, new laws, new opinions. that's what we're waiting for to make our voice heard again. what happens next in syria is file from search, and that's a one day. at least the syrians can celebrate the hope of a brighter future on the auction. but as a senior director at the counter extremism project, i asked them how much support the high octavia ocean group, or each diaz has among the syrian public as well it is. one of the regular factions is now currently of course, the dominant one because he left this particular offensive. but there's also a curtis force in syria that is a turkish fact counter. curtis 1st, which is already fighting the codes nor speak and then down varies the rays of
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opposition groups and is live as groups that are part of the coalition and the outside the coordination. so it's not h t s has the backing of the majority of the searing population at this particular point. now this revolution has promised to work with series prime minister and respect wherever the searing people chose to lead them. do you believe those promises when he remains to be seen? i just note that the time of on also a problem is inclusive society and it didn't quite find out that way since 2021. so we'll have to see, even if july, any of the lead off he has once and it was a society that a lot of power sharing agreements to be negotiated. that is a sharing of the natural results as the oil, which is predominantly now and the good control there is turkey that has some interest that know taken. oh, good, you know, talking to me, emerges in syria. so there are a lot of things that need to be still worked out um,
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but at least they have a chance to work out now. however, from a counter terrorism perspective, this is a very unsettling time because we still have, in terms and prisons, 5 thousands of highest fighters, including german fighters and the families. i'm the courage control and the codes are now becoming increasingly under pressure and brandy. now you mentioned h d as leader abo mohammed al gilani there, and he was a relative unknown on the international stage. until recently. do you think he's positioned himself as a new possible leader in syria as well? it wasn't really that unknown to the export communities that after all these sanctions, both by the united states and security council as an outside of terrace, as well as by the us government and the european union. so he of course has left his offense and that gives him by the virtue of being 1st a position that allows him to stop negotiating with the other groups. but as i said
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at the beginning, he's not the only power broker in this case. no is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu has called the over through charl, aside as a cold fall of the central link in a runs axis of evil. how does the situation in serious effect the conflict between is real and iran? oh, this is a very significant fit back for you around because his bullet has been very weakened during the war in the last couple of months. but of israel and syria is the indispensable land bridge between your arm and the living on which would have allowed your on to re arm and rebuild just blindly be a live and own quite easily, even if, as these rarely have done in the last couple of weeks the space overly but not his block for union transport planes that good 3 suppliers. but also this is a fairly significant another sit back after events, events last as of almost immense. lots of useful life. this is a really difficult situation for to ever know assad's fall is also likely
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a boom for serious kurdish ethnic minority does that post problems for neighboring turkey. they have, after all, been in a protracted conflict with curtis shepherdess for decades now to find a mentor. this is doug i hear from on cut off at the black light. take a look at this particular point. of course, there is the syrian national army, one of the groups that turkey is supporting and this group seems to be moving already in the region of money beach against coach forces. so absolutely darky and add one does not one see any kind of formalize accepted. good autonomy than syria listed the idea that goods kentucky would ask for something similar. now moving forward, what exactly do you see is the largest security concerns regarding syria, both for the local population and also the international community as well. i mean, the very rate immediate. uh,
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that's the next year for the population inside is that now we don't have a power sharing, but it all up fighting situation id that the fractions who were all united in their opposition against us that may turn against the java and the see a lot of violence on till the very is power problems is media terror. lee have problems itself out. that's the media trade in that the media to bed also for us in europe. are these prisons and heidi becomes that the curtis forces, the why did you and others ok. securing which include a lot of i s 5 as including quantized fighters and then medium term. the question is, how many people are going to stay in syria, how that people going to return to syria or if violence breaks out and i'll be these various opposition groups will be see another large number of syrians will have to leave. i forced to leave because of the violence, the country. a lot of open questions remain this hour. i'm afraid we have to leave
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it there. that was on the options, are senior director of the counter extreme and it's extremely some project. thank you very much for your analysis and you're up to date. thanks for turning in the version now. understand can have a site like the right to present dw news on instagram? follow up dw, so once takes all we inside. every day, the world wide web feel free to leave a timeline because we can take the different w.

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