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she used to come close in a cruise. geo political conflict went, oh you she was on the run. starts december 18th on d. w. the . this is the, the news coming to your line from berlin. i'll send syrian president bush. i last saw pines asylum in moscow. after fleeing to revel takeover of damascus, siri and celebrate the end of 50 years of the outside families, oppressive rule healing. what's the rebels are calling a new era for the country? and many who fled the civil war makes the journey home crossing into syria from neighboring countries. millions of syrian refugees have been scattered across turkey 11 on in jordan for more than a decade. plus south korean president union. so you'll is slapped with a travel band as investigators pro is short lived declaration of martial law.
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the low attorney market and good heavy with is the russian government says granted political asylum to ousted syrian liter. busha allows thought he fled the country after his regime collapsed. and the lightning revel offensive to begin less than 2 weeks ago. besides fall has been a cause for widespread celebration across the country and among the syrian diaspora . for almost 25 years under his rule, syrians are beginning to re, to turn their attention towards what rebel leaders say is a new era for their homeland busha, a subs exit from syria, came quickly in the in, looters picked through his boss pell us, just hours of to he slid to russia with his family, of begging the remains of his regime and celebration. fresh quote for their country
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comes the use of injustice insults, public water and electricity cuts. thank god. after 50 years, we were able to remove assaults, families go to willing, syria is moving towards democracy and the rebel forces who toppled aside. have received a hero's welcome and pots of damascus. civilians have joined with soldiers in wide spread celebrations. the fall. i haven't slept at all since yesterday. i came early in the morning to see the people and expressed joy on behalf of all the mothers of the missing prisoners and matches. my brother was mine, such as all my friends and neighbors on us because the rebels have moved quickly to free thousands of people locked inside asides, notoriously brutal jails. newly released prisoners,
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asked bystanders in damascus wanted happened. still unaware of the regimes in mid celebrations or the assets full, plenty of questions remain about what comes next for syria. reba leda and format. i'll tell you to a member of the mohamad galani is likely to play a key role. his rebel brute h t s, was instrumental in over throwing asides regime on sunday. the leader addressed cheering crowds at domestic asses, historical my, you'd mosque this victory. my brothers is a new history for the entire islamic nation. this victory, my brothers is a new history for the region. the prime minister mohammed kazi ali has said he will assist with the peaceful transition of palate to a government chosen by the people. but who we have a lead 3 is next chapter faces,
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and the gnome is tomsk and unifying the country for now. many remain cautiously optimistic about the country's future. the laurel this we can talk now with gonzales barguss's law, so he's the un refugee agencies representative for syria and joins us from damascus advice for being with us. and so what can you tell us about the situation entered around damascus? now yes, the thank you very much for, for having me. i mean, for 1st of all, and we're gonna take one quick step back and look at the context of the background to um, to which we, we, this dramatic changes have taken place. business account has been a will for 13 years. the 16000000 syrians in need a urgent you money, terry, and aid. as
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a result of these years and years of fighting more than 7000000 syrians have been internally displayed based in syria, and more than 5000000. i fled syria on the neighboring countries and of course, also in europe now. but with this latest of fighting and this dramatic change in the map of a syria, we have seen about 800000 syrians that newly displaced the inside, inside the country. again, creating an emergency on top of an emergency on top of an of an emergency. so this is the context, this is the, the, the, the, the background. i am at the same time as you, as a shown in your report. and there are, you know, hundreds of thousands, millions of serious, those who were up routed from their homes among them. we have seen, you know,
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countless scenes of, of enthusiasm, of happiness about the possibility of being able to go home. and this, of course, is these positive people have been waiting for, for something to change in syria to give them hope to, to come back. well, that change is, is taking place as we are, as we speak. we've already seen some people retaining some syrians returning from, from a, from 11 on, not in, in, in, in huge numbers yet. but yes, some are, are, are, are returning. i said this is to the to if he was already this, i was just wondering if you could tell us, um, maybe what the you and hcr is doing to assist those. uh, syrians who are returning to their communities. give us a sense of their needs. yeah. i think they're nice. i think they have 2 types of needs. i think they have the immediate needs what we would go,
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but you immediate that you might need terry and needs. and this is what we're trying to, to, to distribute in, in, and deliver in a very difficult, uh, context where, you know, there has been a few years of the fighting in the past few days for example. but so we're delivering blankets, we're delivering mattresses, we're delivering water, but deliberately, some food, wherever we can, wherever the situation is secure enough that we make use of that's of that space to be able to assist them together with those un on the n g o partners but what, what does not be, you know, this will not be enough, right? people in syria, they need more than just bread and water and what the noise is, the shelter if it's just for what you're up against. know under these conditions and whether the conditions now after the facade regime has, uh, has been defeated. whether you're able to coordinate with the
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h t s levels that are in syria now, is it easier to get the kind of aide to the people who need it that you're talking about that it was before? so i think that's that you have in the past few days, you've had a situation of course where there's been a lot of of a fighting while the map of syria was, was being withdrawn. so i'm going redrawn. so during those days it was cause of course, very difficult to operate in, in, in many areas because there was active, active fighting as the fighting has gone down has decreased. i said we've, we've used that space to be able to, to resume our activities. for example, in places such as a level in places such as a homes, so and, and, and i'm hama, and, and so on. so we fit as the fighting dies down in a particular place. then we review our, our operation. but um, on the issue of, of,
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of, of, of return of refugee return, which of course is a critical issue, not the least for the neighboring countries, but also for countries in, in europe there. i think that i talked about an opportunity and i hope among people, but for that dream of people to be able to return to share it to happen. we need at least 2 offerings to, to materialize. one, we need a peaceful, peaceful transition, and you know, these are very early days that the muskets has changed hands literally in the past 24 hours. so we need a peaceful transition, the restoration of law and order here in damascus from the window where i am sitting right next to i can see, you know, quite a lot of smoke. there's some, some blue thing on some burning, so low. i know that needs to be restored at the community level. we need to see
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reconciliation. we need to see tolerance of co existence, but also what is absolutely needed is i mean, junction of support from the, the international community, including from europe, injection of support in terms of humanitarian aid, but also long term financial support so that we can stabilize those, those populations once they return in large numbers, can solve a thank you very much for talking with us today. uh, that was gonzalo vargas law sort of from the un refugee agency, the you and hcr. thank you very much time and for more insights, i'm joined now by andrew sinclair is a senior advisor at the center for global security and stabilization with the texas group in washington dc. i'm sure they also have received has just been toppled. it's unclear what will happen next. what's your impression of the security situation on the ground in syria right though. thank you terry. i mean, look,
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opposition, forces have completed in less than 2 weeks what they were unable to accomplish in 13 years since this uprising against side began and it was accomplished without major fighting, the syrian government forces withdrew and in the areas that the opposition has taken, we have not seen widespread violence or lawlessness, although there has been isolated incidents like in men's age and then for the region, well, tension on certain israel and jordan no longer have to contend with any ron friendly government on their doorsteps and russia is weekend and its ability to project power. so i think in the last 24 and 48 hours, we've seen also encouraging signals from both the outgoing aside government and opposition forces to focus on a continuity of services and peaceful and smooth transition of power. certainly a lot remains to be done, but the early indications are promising is that your, if
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a specialist and dealing with syria and in stabilisation, stabilizing syria, under these conditions rebuilding the country is going to, it's going to be huge challenges. where is the next government in syria likely to look for help with that they should look to the international community, but i would say and really emphasize here that this is a syrian lead project. and i think while there are certainly dilemmas with the giovanni and h t s being designated to terrace organization by both the us turkey. anything un uh, and there are dilemma is with how to deal with that government. if they do take power, i think we need to, as the international community for the 1st time ever see that the, these are the realization of the aspirations of the syrian people and really ensure that they're in the lead of their future. and that the, uh, the goals and aspirations of the syrian revolution, which, you know, is a peaceful revolution started 13 years ago,
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is realized. and i think that will take patience. it will take your concerted effort. but i would emphasize that the key to success here is insurance. syrians are in the lead of their future, not the international community or outside powers, as had been directed by russia any run through their alliance with the sod machine . when you look at the possible scenarios for serious future andrew, what do you think is most likely it is the danger that it could become another libya right next door or afghanistan. how can that be avoided? certainly there are uh stairs about what comes back and i would say, you know, those are legitimate and, and, and, and, and likely outcomes that, that could, you know, cause the country to further descend into chaos. but really, one thing to emphasize is the cohesion of this anti aside, collision has been remarkable. and despite the bloodshed and suffering over the
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last 13 years, which has come at the hands of outside power is trying to dictate where the aside regime goes and how they deal with the uprising that they've experience. so this is the 1st time that the syrian people in more than 50 years are in the driver seat of determining their future. and that is critical. and you know, another sort of point to emphasizes. there's been a lot about the normalization that was coming at the hands of aside with the u, a. e and other regional actors. and the, the, the state capture that was conducted by iran and russia was quite the stabilizing. is you know, your previous guess mentioned there were millions of floods the country over half the country has been displaced. and while the moment is fragile, i think and giving the syrians a chance to lead and determine their own future shows the best way to prevent it from falling into chaos and more instability. there are many groups operating in
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syria. there are many other outside countries have been involved in syria. isis is one of the groups that still there. the u. s. is actively fighting the group with the help of the cards. how big of a risk is there of a major isis resurgence in syria? andrea, i will certainly that's, that's a fear and a risk, but what we've seen is h t. s. coordination with the syrian democratic forces, internal mazda loan, which are leading the anti isis a site. we saw over the last day more than $75.00 areas of isis. uh, uh, presence hit by the international coalition to prevent a further exploitation of isis by using this moment to sort of secure more land. and i think what, again, what we've seen is a real pragmatism by both of the syrian democratic forces and
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h t s. and again, i think the presence of the former prime minister of the assad government staying in place to ensure a peaceful transition and power. all of that continuity of security governance. government services are really promising signs that the vacuum will not be exploited by actors like isis to conduct a more, more threats to syria in the region. h t. s was backed by turkey. turkey is a major regional player. it has issues with the kurds in syria. what role do you think turkey will play in serious future? and then the medium term? well, certainly, uh turkey comes out as a send it in this uh, in the, in this scenario. uh, they, there been many reports that day at least green lights. the operation by h t s, although there haven't been formal confirmation of that. and i think what you've
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seen in the past, you know, day or so since damascus fell to the opposition. as you've seen, you know, thousands of syrians who been displaced in turkey attempting to return to their homes. and that's a key point sort of taking the reason that these people sled away, which was a side they can enable a real goal of turkey, which was to find a permanence more sustainable area where the millions of syrians and their country could go back peacefully. and with dignity to their homes. and i think there's still a lot to be determined on how the s d f coordinates with this new syrian government in damascus. and certainly turkey will want to avoid any type of scenario that creates an autonomous kurdish or even independent curtis state on their border.
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andrew, thank you very much for now. that was andrew sinclair, senior advisor with the texas consulting group in washington dc. thank you. sketchup on a few other stores making headlines around the world today. russia has called emergency meeting of the un security council to discuss events in syria. the kremlin has been the syrian resumes. biggest factor in recent years is now facing the potential loss of its key military and naval bases in the middle east. meanwhile, staff, it's series embassy in moscow have foisted the opposition flag and in a related story is really forces have moved into a demilitarized buffers ard was serial along the is really controlled, go on heights. israel says it's a temporary but necessary measure because a 50 year old truce ended when of soldiers left. their post is real amex, the strategic territory for decades ago. but most countries regarded as
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a part of syria after the toppling of assaults. appreciate many syrians who fled the civil war to other countries was started to return home, as we've heard. scores of people were seen crossing into syria on monday, like here at the l must now border crossing between 11 on in syria. news of the fast reval advances and take over a major cities in the country have been celebrated widely among the syrian diaspora abroad. well journalists, mathias, a, but is at the syrian turkish border in the kurdish section of syria. i asked him earlier, what he's witnessing there. the i'm here in the code is region of north east syria, and people here celebrated 2 days ago or yesterday a, that's a prison and also to form a present also that left the country towards moscow. so people who are really happy about him having left about on the other hand,
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they are not really um regarding with optimism into future because they don't know what would happen now in syria. there are many islam is malicious and fighting with different a goes and one melisha of the so called syria national, the army s n a is fighting in the city of money which actually against quotas troops. and it's a really, it's very difficult to say. and um, to have an idea about what will happen in the next days and weeks to come between the east limits malicious and the code is troops in this region where i am is the toppling of the outside regina visible there in the border region. would you say where i am, it's not visible because of this area is autonomous for already many years. when in 2011, the civil war began and the kurds here established an even stronger autonomous
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statues and organized themselves with the democratic structures. and assisted with the acid regime, for example, in the nearby city of commerce leads, the airport was held and controlled the assets of troops. and as the assets and militaries about the rest was already construed fights, cool. dish fighters and cool dish administrators. because now offsets the soldiers have left in direction to iraq and they still keep organizing. and yeah, keep organizing their region here by themselves. the courts you mentioned at the beginning of or interview the people you're talking to. there are a bit nervous about the future, a little apprehensive. what kind of concerns do people have, who you're talking to their, what are they thinking about concretely? a serious a country with a lot of ethnics and a lot of different religious groups. christians in a level for example,
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that in the southern regions there are several minor groups and the kurds here, as i mentioned the they control no one 3rd of the country and present president adder one turkeys president. it is the anatomy of them and they feel they, they for, threatens by out of one because out of one is, sees the courage as terrorist as if they would be of the same kind of v. i. s, tara groups were also present to you in the desert. so, and the people here fear that present outer one and took you has an own agenda, which is not likely to be friend, it towards chords. and so there are a lot of future conflicts to come if there won't be a political diplomatic solution for syria as a whole. but he has thank you very much for talking with us. that was journalist mathias, a bunch, and the curtis region of north eastern siri. looking in some
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other world news though, thousands of pro e u georgians have rallied in the capital to b. c. for the 11th consecutive day, the country's president and the opposition to choose the pro russia george and dream party of fraud and reason parliamentary elections. ruling party triggered, renewed outcry after announcing it would not continue talks to join the european union. taiwan says that it has put his military on high alert and after detecting dozens of chinese warships and coast guard vessels and waters around the island. beijing also restricted nearby aerospace china claims democratic taiwan is its own territory and is not including his term to the pa, to its criminals. to sewing then shall we touch him. therefore, i believe that will be no confusion in the process of the orderly leave. a treat
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communicating tongue until the president steps down the prime minister will close the consult with the policy to ensure that the people's livelihood in states as a man adult without disrupting the question. on the streets of soul, people are unhappy with the governing parties. compromise solution of withdrawing the president from his duties without a formal in between the process done to because i support the change of administration through immediate impeachment rather than early an orderly departure . ok, so because when someone come to a crime, that person must be punished and it's a cabinet um and the only punishment a please the change of power person. and then again, the boy to the opposition party keeps saying. impeachment and i just one that what the future generation would say about this is the loyalty. so does mind to mete on
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the sides korean citizens or if you just terrible, i feel call up when you're getting we'll use brief attempt to impose miller people on south korea has damaged the country's reputation as a democracy both at home and abroad. busy well, then i'm going to do and it has already ended the courtyard. so some of his colleagues from a defense minister came young to him, was arrested by the prosecutors special investigative team for his alleged role in imposing martial law. and the indian minister has resigned to south korea's leadership pines in limbo. the opposition party is calling for a new impeachment for in the week ahead. you're watching dw news from berlin. just reminder of the top story we're following for you this, our russian state media, se ousted syrian president bush all outside has arrived in moscow and has been a granted has been granted asylum. syrians around the world have been celebrating
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