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sizes have been ordered out of the cities, but it's still a volatile situation in a heavily armed country. hundreds of these riley asked strikes of hitting the country since i side was deposed on sunday. israel says they've sold it, it's all me to create weapons, free zones in serious south and the you and says, israel needs to stuff, i'm feel, go here in by then. and this is the day the in the pcm is a general come out and has cost us with running the government. until march 1st, 2025. i mean, my family got hit by wall and the rebel lee, this serious with all those the sides past will end up like a side. we are continuing to see is there a movements and bombardments into serial territory?
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this needs to stop also on the day of the fall of a sad opens the possibility of return for hundreds of thousands of syrians who flags his dictates issue for the fun necessarily. and so we want to go back to syria, but we have to wait to one and see what happens. but see it on 0. if it's really 100 percent safe in the show and then we'll all go back to syria and rebuild the unbound. welcome to the day, we start with the warning from israel's defense minister to the rabble dress now in charge of syria. do not follow assets pass. israel concerts remark it came as he confirmed that each country had carried down strikes against syria's navy. israel's ministry, meanwhile, has denied that its forces went beyond the long standing buffers of that separates the israel occupied, goes on hinds from the rest of syria,
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based after reports of israeli tanks being sponsored close to damascus, smoke rising over the syrian capital after the latest is really air strikes, dozens of them hit the military targets across the country. according to syria and media reports, they included and fields, munitions, depos and the facility linked to the production of chemical weapons. e's real says it's acting to stop arms from getting into the hands of extreme his forces. i know who was deemed we were taking all the actions necessary to try to ensure our security. and then with regard to the new situation created in syria and what's on the so we're on tuesday writers, news agents and these really media published reports suggesting is really for us is our role. so deepening their incursion into syrian territory. secuity sources say they were supported just 25 kilometers from the syrian capital. a claim denied by
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these really army. all that stuff to israel took over a demo to raise buffer zone in the golan heights. the area south west of damascus was a next by israel for decades ago, but it's still regarded by most countries as part of syria. israel says this step was necessary. we took some in some points and ruling territories and near the boulder, you know, they're not to be surprised from october 7 in the syrian border. i emphasize it is a very limited and temporary step. speaking at the golan heights on sunday, prime minister benjamin netanyahu said the collapse of the asset res, seem is offering great opportunity for peace, but is also fraught with dangers that we can establish
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a neighborly relations and a peaceful relations with the new forces emerging in syria. that's our desire, but if we do not, we'll do whatever it takes to defend the state of israel and the border of israel. for now, these really extracts continue. the u. k. base serena observatory for human rights says the most important military sites in syria have already been destroyed in more than 300 is really strikes, says default of the asset regime. what do y'all have? a son is ready to join this to me political comments site that he outlined israel goals in syria is our lives doing now where 3 things in serial. number one, securing the boulder of the golden hides eh, with syria, the serial nami has of operated. so the separation of forces,
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the agreement is no longer even foss, if you don't know who is really going to be in charge of the boulder area on the syrian side. so these are these of taking that surround the hilltops along the 90 kilometers long front. the beak off in mound how long the highest mountain in the region, which is a controlling good. the strategic bind there, but they're not moving towards damascus. and they're now signaling to the reorganizing military affections in this house that is intending to. ready resume what we called a good neighborhood. the operations providing assistance to population in southern and syria, re establishing the military feed,
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the hospital would accept that. could that could they'll go thousands and thousands of syrians. this is one second. these are the air force and navy are destroying the equipment and facilities left by the serial allow me, which no longer exists. so the syrian navy was taken out by the easily navy and the air force. well, the remainder of the serial. now, force and evidences were knocked out by these are the air force facilities for the production and storage of the rockets besides chemical weapons components, etc. we're all taken out altogether. we are talking about close to $400.00. a salt is any make continue. basically what you are watching is the uh, illumination of the serial nami. so none of the rabbit groups,
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some of them just, nope just is limits. couldn't the hold de code of these weapons cause bad luck, you know, going to syria to secure some of these weapons, etc. a, what's a good job? it was a double coalition. i'm not in control of syria as named i prime minister to lead the transitional government mohammed, alabama. she had previously an ideal position administration in italy, province. it takes over from the prime minister of the, of as soon as i know she has been working with the rebels to coordinate the transfer of power and one. jesse. yeah, i bought on the, on the 5th. well, turkey has played a significant and multi faceted role in recent events in syria. i think back groups like the syria national army, which oppose the fundraising anchor has worked hard to prevent the stablish print of a code is controlled autonomous region near its border. i'm taking in millions of syrian
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refugees as the item tash bash is a visiting fellow at the tuck you project at the brookings institution. that's a washington based public policy. think time welcome to dw, how much of what it once do. you think turkey has got from events in syria over the last couple of weeks. as i think turkey is feeling pretty good. it has long supported the serial position and not just its own proxy army, syria, which is called syrian national army and was part of the lightning offensive. but it also has good relations with h t. s high, a tory or shop to group that had been ruling for about 5 years. and it lips a territory that borders to re key and what's really dependent on uh, access from to the turkish border. uh, it's
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a group that is dependent on international aid and wanted to legitimize itself because it has to hottest roots and was initially a sort of a persona non grata for the international community. so i came to rely on her key in many ways. and i think that turkey has taken a bet on it and of, and has clearly tacitly at least greenlighted, they're offensive. so turkey stems to gain enormous the politically and militarily from what's happening. okay, my house also on time, but it also has been hosting other opposition, communities and governments in exile and so on, so forth. so it has been busy and it's going to say it's going to have a saying what happens in damascus over the next term. okay, so meanwhile, israel has been bombing targets across syria to stop by for folding into what they regard as the wrong hands. do you see any danger of a clash between is riley attackers? interest?
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yes, i do. and this is a worrisome thing. increasing the turkey is saying, syria, as the next stage, are up. it's rivalry with israel and it's, you know, relations have hit rock bottom after october 7 and these rails a military incursion, an offensive in garza and turkish government is accused israel of aiding and abetting. and creating the genocide and that's not just being a political issue. it's also turkey is also supported the genocide case case that i see see and, and to take. so i think now increasingly to tell what i'm seeing is that on her is very annoyed by israel's pre emptive actions both in terms of the buffer zone and go on and taking out of what has munitions targets inside is read inside
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syria. but i think that there is still time for turkey and as well to get to a place where they can at least a sort of agree on a model for the future of syria. ok, so now syria has a new government settings. are in government put in place by a mix group of insurgents with differing ideologies, goals and visual identities and took as president. oh do. i was raised a point that must be on the minds of lots of people, the danger of the country splintering. well, here's his thoughts and then come back to you. the saw then sort of so now on we can also allow syria to be divided once again is in. we can never allow the countries to treat to become a battle ground, once again on the negative, missing at any attack on the freedom of the syrian people. the stability of the new syrian government and the integrity of the ancient century and tenor tree will find
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goes along with the syrian people. so yeah, how can i be like the busi, the director of the iron tash bash? how great do you see the danger of serious fracturing because of local factional interests? i see a possibility for syria united, but i think clearly president, the other one is more worried. the me to talk to syria while a sod was there, was actually splintered into different governance. all claims run by just photos or turkey back groups or, or curtis militia and so on and so forth. so it was, so it was already divided. now i think there is more of a chance for at least a, a unity, but clearly are the ones messages also to curtis groups. i think that the turkey would not want to see an independent curtis star and would want to be part of the negotiations for the type of territory, the scope and the,
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and the governance model that we are going to see encourage controlled areas. so there is going to be a conversation between turkey in a ma, damascus. it was said in other speeches that turkey supports an inclusive transition government to. that's the right message. that's also what 20 blanket and is said in a recent letter. but then when it comes to the current issue, i think turkey will want to restrict curtis autonomy in syria as much as possible. and. and that will be an interesting 3 way conversation, which will not be necessarily between turkey and the curtis groups of kurdish sds. but also between kurtz and um, and syrians, that is not to say whoever is a power in damascus. let's talk about the center and refugees into okay, we've seen pictures of them queuing up to across the board to back into syria tests
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each. okay, moving 3000000 since the civil war began in 2011. well, many of the country, but with a truck economy struggling. you think president, otherwise we'll be glad to see the back of the it's a big issue in turkish politics and election after year. i think the opposition has been made to various offices opposition. parties have been running um, sort of coming out with initiatives, policies, ideas of quote unquote, sending syrians back so clearly something that hit sudden or interior to society. however, syrians and turkey have been contributing enormously to turkish economy and while it may appeal under popular populace level to talk about sending syrians back, it is actually the case that target showed that economy has benefited from both cheap labor and the kind of dynamism they bring to border areas or the one has recently talked about voluntary honorable and timely return. so i think that that,
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that is good messages. the syrians cannot be expected to go back to their country if there is no livelihood there. and if there's continued kayla's, there were still in the early stages, i know of many suitors who are actually heading back because they want to live this moment. they want to see deliberation, but they're not yet. they have not yet decided to move back amongst this chaos. we see turkey backed groups attacking us backed codes in recent days. what danger do you think about poses to the transition that's currently underway? so that's another worrisome escalation, not so much part of the transition framework in damascus. because right now, this is an early phase of the transition that is keeping the state functioning and running. this is the, the goal of the car and transition team. there will be another more inclusive
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government over the next period then that eventually a process that takes the country into elections. but as far as the curtis issue is concerned, we've seen some escalation in a town called man bush. we've seen a deal whereby curtis forces pull back in another town called a ton of his thoughts. i think that ultimately we need this as a space to watch. there needs to be a do the ds collation and dialogue between us slide. curtis group, s t f and turkey. um what i see in very, very loose general terms. what i see is turkey's position there is that codes should be east of you. freight is not web stuff you freight is. that is to say, the town of met bitch that they long wanted for, for years they lobbied us the russians and encouraged to evacuate that town. and finally, we've seen fighting their leading to
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a turkey backs back groups taken go over. of course, turkey has enormous military advantages now because it can also use the air space in syria. i think the best course would be a s d s and turkey agreeing on a map of a kurdish, a self ruling and into a feedback loops that map is not very far from the current map that you're seeing right now. but there's a path that for dialogue and d escalation, that makes much more sense. thank you so much for your clear. i clearly outlined the insights the as the item taskbar from the brookings institution. thank you so much. i the all the fault of i side has been met by sat abrasions among the city and exiles, hundreds of people gathered in central live and the news immersed on sunday that 5 decades of dictatorship come to an end. germany is home to almost
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a 1000000 syrians, most of them came to escape. the civil war, which started in 2011, will be starting to assets that it was never realistic for those who played, he's regime. but age removal means going back at is now a possibility isn't i don't know, can you spell we haven't woken up yet. this, this, this was all to show up for us is why the, it was all too fast. and 6 documents getting the country fried from my side and 6 days before we didn't count on the destination with connection. many citizens and now asking themselves as the future if it is so if i can get all the new people running to the country, the right ones. yeah. yeah. and again, since the speaking, we don't know the wasn't, i'll probably have to wait and see what comes out and then we can decide. but right now you can't say whether you're ready to go back or stay here. so when i hear black, that's fine to hi, broadway side, syria to germany in 25 states,
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you set up an organization called a steering juice assembly, which works with young simians in syria and around the world on educational and development projects of welcome to the studio that they have, and this has been an amazing a few days as it sunk in yet. and it's, it's still a truck actually to understand what's happened. like for us us, the syrian, we still somehow, nothing easy for us to believe. it's all those 14 years of suffering, it just gone just to come to the end. and how did you find out the assets have gone? and like for us it was like an an a process 1st full like to understand and to see what just happening. right now with the 3 workers and starting again and from there to start to follow where we are, what's happening from city to city. and so we, i will, we causally on the, on the phone to, to people back home. and actually i have been on a media of 24 hour, i've been kind of scanning, go to sleep for 2 days. i'm just following up about where they are. what's the
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situation right now, how, how it's coming, the process is etc, etc. and it was like, uh, not easy, i feel like i cannot, i'm trying to disrupt it. but it's really difficult to try to mention how difficult . all right. and then when you got the news that i thought i'd gone. yeah. a slight shock, like it's really shock up to about really this is happening like 1st or somehow i so all right, i am in a dream or something like it's really for asked was not the easy to believe that's all over and he's going to be honest until today, when we try to, to test the freedom i came to say, and we are, we for, that's really happening. this is really happening. this is to but like so many of the things did you get what you think you want. so then you have to look at the, the detail. so how does gum? yeah, but in a place we have an is let me start a group of is maybe some groups that some country have a designated as type of groups that give you
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a cause for concern. this is the other big concern about the future of the country . how we will move forward and as well, or what ours is looking for that transaction period. and under just this way as well, i feel old what's happened. i believe many syrian art, i'm not sure how it well goes and then same times they are, they don't they, they don't feel how we will interact right now with this. uh we are we looking for for award for the stability of the country and, but we are as well not sure if i talk to will be for this. this is what i'm feeling as well from my conversation was young people, but then same times, we are happy we that the period of assets come over and then as well as to come to the box, especially after everything we see every day from yesterday, from feed us about the presence in syria and like awesome. so when the big h. s. a lead to mohammed, i'll giovanni says he wants to build
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a government and society that includes diverse communities. yeah. do you believe him as like from what did we see before it was difficult to believe like it's with this is mean for them and how they tried to change. they added to energy just right now, and then how they try to propose a building and a government and as well, and democratic government being included for everyone. and this is our concern as well for the next period, the transaction period. how this is will be, do wells, really bold and democratic government in the future. how this is the process of and after i believe after that stuff pushing of the temporary like government today. and they give themselves the time of 3 months and the next 3 months, we are very excited to see how it will be that will be the 1st tax, whether it be there that this is a transitional government that's supposed to be that until march. exactly. yeah, if that slips, maybe that's, that's that's, that's what happened. started
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a big question, but yeah, yeah, yeah. okay. and so, or do you want to go back? this is the question like i believe 100 people ask me until today. do you want to go back? but no one asked me if you want to stay like today, i fine. what i want to speak about this. i'm someone who come 2015, who someone who integrated was language was a study or you receive different degree in germany. i become german, i become citizen, i become was fully right. and as well, the active and democratic country. no one's really tried to ask me, do you want to stay? this is the because i'm for to answer the question though. i want to go back. and so you have to be quite young when you that yeah, yeah. so germany is home in germany. it's home like for me like some one after all this years. like the network i have it's only in germany. no one know me any more is here. yeah, i someone, there, i don't, i don't remember if i still have a friend and the same taking off all my friends lift with me when we left our
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country because we forced to be to leave the country. like if it was not that were for us to these, but i'm saying you question why you want to go bog me or other young people or under syrian refugee. we will go back only when we feel the stability in our country and feels safe to go back and absolutely volunteer you way. shorter term, more than about someone just to throw through us the yes, to try to find out what the future and do you think syrians here in germany said is like yourself can you have is that a role for you in steering the countries future step countries direction this is actually exactly what did we got from all those here, like in germany, what to save a lot of education, but it's like a lot of experience. we learn with the means that democracy will learn for its meaning to feed them. and the question he had, how we bring all over experience back they have and up up. so they'll say, i believe the experience we learned about the civil society, how we would be billed, how we can rebuild what a civil society again back and know what country. and i believe many of the,
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of the syrian, they want to go bog, but they want to 1st believe there is safety and believe there is a possibility to go back. good. so could you thank you so much for coming back. i'm talking to this. i have about about a week from the syrian you assembly. thank you so much. i and that is the day you can follow the team on social media at the w news latest headlines, of course, the www dot com will that be w, have a good news . the
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