to become closed in a cru see a political conflict went oh, you lost the run. starts december 18th on dw, the this is dw dues live from berlin. israel says that it is staying in the go on heights. despite growing international criticism is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu insisting is really true, will remain in the buffer zone of the board of and syria. he says, to guarantee is real security. also coming up ukraine contaminated with land mines like no other place on earth. tonight will show you the dangerous task of clearing the ground that explosives and time magazine named you as president elect. donald trump is person of the year for the 2nd time. finding a political come back of historic proportions. the

hybrid golf is good to have you with this we begin this thursday with is really forces in places they have not been in half a century. this week is really true. pushed deeper into the go one heights, areas that the last entered 15 years ago today, israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu pointed to the toppling of the of sod, receiving syria. and said, israel's military will remain in a go one heights buffer zone until border security. but syria can be guaranteed this is the israeli military, in the u. n. monitor demilitarized buffer zone between syria and is ready occupied . going on heights. israel has advanced, it would keep a limited number of troops there, because the syrian military had abandoned, its posts. is riley prime minister benjamin netanyahu said it was a temporary defensive position until a suitable arrangement is found. of the buffer zone is known as the area of

separation. it was set up as part of israel ceasefire agreement with syria in 1974 to keep israeli and syria and forces a part after israel occupation of the golan heights. the move is part of a far reaching is really response to the full of the aside regime in syria. their military has launched, strikes on syrian army facilities, weapons warehouses, airports to naval basis. but there's been condemnation of israel is actions by many countries and by the united nations. there is absolutely no basis on the international law to preventively or preemptively dis on a country. you know, it's like, i mean if that were the case, it would be a recipe for global chaos because lots of countries have adverse raise. they would like to see that without, without weapons,

back in the golden heights buffer zone. it's unknown. how long is riley troops will remain as developments in syria move at a rapid pace with enjoying now by available corvette. she's a middle east l. is that the mostly 1000000000 center in tel aviv. how real? it's good to have you back on the program. the previously the militarized buffer zone between israel and syria established back in 1974. it's guarded, protected by the you in an observer force. i'm, are we clear on why is real decided to breach that 0 as well? it's mainly the northern part of the golan heights. indeed, formerly a long day, the golden lights as you show, but in fact, the forces are, you know, not certain parking, the northern part of it. it's a part, it's a, an area with the 5 villages. some of them are jews which are protected by israel

and not for the 1st time. it was a few years ago when these riddle was required to protect them and to prevent the measures against them. but that's not the re, the main reason. it's one of the 2 main reasons. the other reason is that is really wants to see how the current, the regime, which is still crystallizing as we know a lot. because at the end of the day we are of that. nobody can blame us, you know, for me being afraid of a people on the white trucks, a g, a these, and that, you know, we would like to take some precautions. we need to, to make it clear, we're talking about a stripped of something in between the 3 to 5 kilometers. it's not the 10 percent that the turkey, for example, occupied out of the serious the territory. and as he's run said, and i really hope this is the plan,

it will redraw once it will know that everything is under control. well, there are 2 messages coming out of this. let me ask you, if you agree, one is, is real, wants to be proactive to protect itself. and the 2nd is that it does not want to, you know, leave its national security in the hands of a you enforce. am i reading that correctly? and i think you're reading it correctly, in fact, a few that well during the, the balance before us of the it was toppled down is road was required to predict the you and base it and how the village. so it was, is worth protecting the u. n. and not, and not vice versa. the old situation is very volatile, very combustible. and this is exactly why the, the idea has changed the positions and within those limited the areas. and hopefully, personally, i can tell you and you know,

we have nothing to do there. if the machine will be stable and will not threaten these are and obviously can do, do you, do you believe or think that benjamin that's in yahoo is also a bad opinion that this is purely about protecting ourselves. this is not about in an opportunity of perhaps expanding territory. now, you know, the area there is very, is very harsh. it's very hard. it's a very, it's a very exceptional area i would say in regard to the rest of the golan heights a. and then there's not, uh, you know, the in, in territorial terms, there's israel has nothing to do there. they're already 5 villages there. and what these really is doing good currently is basically a, digging a trench, an anti tank a trench to defend this particular area. in other areas,

it's much easier to defend them even from within the golden knights, these really go to nights in this particular area. it's historically more vulnerable, the area where we saw tags invading the, the land, the in the young people are war so they are particular measures being taken there. i don't see the expending over that over the tactical need. the us national security advisor jake sullivan said today that is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu seems to be prepared to negotiate a deal for the release of hostages held in gaza. is that a ceasefire? seems to be something that is now more realistic. that was his reading, the share that i do actually uh, i'm not sure that some of these ready just yesterday we've got some negative voices

from lebanon, from the one of how much the representatives there who said things that are a contradictory to what we understood the recent base regarding how much the willingness to go forward. so we're all holding our fingers so to speak. the, i'll tell you what these in the mind of the prime minister currently is really enjoying operational freedom in the gaza strip. actually there's nothing that the idea of kind of do with the now ours we did the street. so this, of course obviously allows the, the idea of a much more freedom in decision making, including, to redraw and to get in. again, if that's what it was, you know, if we will need to do that, if they were, do you know, any provocation that is needed? i think this install a lot of the confidence in the prime minister's the mind. and the hopefully,

as i said, we're holding our fingers. all right, i really, it's good talking be the we appreciate your insights tonight. thank you. thank you, brad. well, the syria is sets up for the post a sod era. the countries disparate army factions are looking to submit their own interests. now the victorious is what misled h t. s. are now in control of most of the syria. now that they've set up the government in damascus. they've set their sights on the rest of the country. much of the northeast is held by the kurdish lead syrian democratic forces, while the turkish backs group calling itself the syrian and national army. it controls much of the territory along the northern border. serious kurds had been hoping for autonomy or self rule, but the h t s. as advances is people they are fearing the worst theory and kids wasted no time and destroying remnants of

a subs room. they are among the many syrian minorities to have something to under his link, the regime we've been waiting for 13 years and today is our day. it's the codes incurred the stones day and god willing it will be full of joy and happiness. the paperwork is make, could make up about 10 percent of serious population along with sizable minorities in iran, iraq, and took a cit, protest have long baffled for an independent state, making them a target from various governments during syria's civil war. the kurdish lead democratic forces for to create a c, me, or tournaments area in the countries north, east. the us troops faxed them and slicing the rise of use in the region. and in controlling the oil rich areas. but neighboring turkey

has long fought against the syrian kids. it has back renewed attacks and recent days, fearing kurdish sit partizan within its own board is key, has also supported the h t. s. rebels who toppled the aside regime and will now help shape serious future . many kids flayed live po, just hours after the rebels took control of the city while they've tried to assure minorities and knows at risk. not everyone is convinced given the, to the notion of the minorities are worried about how they will be treated to, uh, you know, how that those who have taken over now have come out with positive slogans and statements. did you need to go to see how it goes? but in practice, everyone is hopeful and expecting a call of the union. people are waiting to see if these positive statements will

materialize in practice. they have the full of the aside regime could present many risks to syrian kids, but as the country begins to rebuild, they may also be opportunities for the long held goal of self governance as well. the fall of the assault regime is raising questions about the status of the hundreds of thousands of syrian to flood the civil war. for europe, some governments are already planning to deport them or to suspend their asylum claims the w and has been speaking to syrians living here in berlin to get their view on the events of the last days. joy in berlin on that day, syrians worldwide will never forget the downfall other regime and the hope for rise of a new syria. berlin i t engineer my e o my e and his compatriots celebrated. i'm already got through to his mom as well.

my name with the girlfriend i caused my mother understood that i couldn't speak. i cried and laughed at the same time in the background in my head. and i couldn't believe that something was gone, but that's i think is child field on 5th, a shadow. i left 44 years since here we are used by us to enter before him is foundries. and i've always been afraid of this regime. a minus thought, comma come out. i use family is from hama the site just last week of perhaps the turning point in the long civil war. when rebels overran government forces on the way to taking damascus back in berlin, another syrian student jo brian, as um, to is overjoyed, even writing a poem to this moment. he's among the hundreds of thousands of syrians granted protective status here. but i'm like, oh my e, a new german citizen as um,

may not be allowed to stay like other countries. germany is the spending decisions on asylum claims by syria. nationals is 12 and i don't think germany will simply send people back to their homeland. he's an impulse, but we're building ourselves. they do that and i'm still studying here on the dodge and those with the germans have supported here for the for 5 or 67 years, and then to just throw it away and send us home home this weekend. i don't believe that gus cloud explanation as much as they'd like to be back home. the syrians in germany see an evolution there after the revolution. all right, here's some of the other stories. now that i'm making headlines around the world, the secretary of saint anthony blinking, and jordan's king of doing that, i have called for a secure syria. during their talks in the red sea resort of arkansas ultimatum said, syria is blinking, said serious transition shouldn't be inclusive, non sectarian. it should protect the rights of all serials. i made the comments

before the party for turkey on the next leg of his meetings to or else any and health officials is a more than 2 dozen people have been killed in the least round. it is really your strength and gossip medics and said one of the buildings hit was sheltering. a large number of displaced people in hon. eunice, a funeral. this hill for southern palestinians reported we killed o guarding a trucks. you as president joe biden has announced that he's pardoning 39 people in commuting the sentences of some 1500 others. it's the largest on a single day active clemency in modern us history. it comes a week after biden's controversial decision, the part of his son hunter, despite saying earlier that he would know or nearly 3 years into russia's full scale invasion ukraine is now believe to be the most mind country in the world. there are an estimated 2000000 land buttons contaminating 40 percent of

ukraine's territory. unexploded ordnance is another problem even near the capital. keith w's, rebecca rivers, reports its painstaking and dangerous move . in 2 years off, the russian soldiers were forced out of keep. the mind is still working to clear unexploded ordnance from areas on the cities outskirts number, 50, their husband ticket. it's not only civilians who are at risk, but also the economy. how to familiar and in many areas of far as the dangerous. because of mine's all the optim up the fighting ballast, if these are the boy of with d. so both of the, you know, this hits the economy hard to fit because how hector, as of land cannot really fund the ocean, you the overall thing. experts from the halo trust, the world's biggest mind clearance organization is to make. there are many millions of explosive items in ukraine's soil,

including more than 2000000 land mines light by russia since the full scale invasion. the scale of this problem is immense. eats not just here in kids, but right across the country, there are hundreds of sites like these, removing all the landlines and unexploded ordnance will take years if not decades to both the capabilities the high, low trust has been taking on war veterans with extensive battlefield experience veterans like it was fun. yeah. called itself is a soft, caring mines for the military until he stepped on one himself with a couple of levels of, of we've, we've captured an enemy position and were ordered to clear rate of explosives and hazardous items. is that a good while we were securing the area we came under artillery fire and had to cover really unfortunately, i stepped on a mine and was injured and you know, you almost have to put on and that's jack of hopes that when he recovered,

he could go back to his battalion, but the challenges posed by his prosthesis made the rig is of the military to difficult and he was the mobilized co, approximately the halo trust gives me the chance to keep on working for my country . that's really important and contribute. they do using the knowledge of wolf and the vets analyze these high resolution drone images. they identify with a skilled eye and determine where the other side might have placed explosives. we have a lot of expertise in flying drones and analyzing inventory and bringing dates together . but we also have missing some domain knowledge about the, the local context in the battle field. i'm hoping that the veterans will help us understand a little bit better. it's a win win. they tell me, given the industrial scale of landline and explosive ordinance laying in ukraine, the role of the role that is in valuable. germany's foreign minister on the bed box

says the board ukraine is a threat to european security and that european foreign ministers agree that change needs a long term security guaranteed. she welcome counterparts from 5 e u countries today as well as from the u. k. and ukraine. right here in berlin. the roof is discussing further financial communitarian and military support for you . great. it wants to send a clear signal of european unity before the change of leadership in the united states next month. a dw chief international editor richard walker. he was at that meeting, i asked him whether ukraine would also be taking part. yeah, that's. that's right. so the ukrainians will be present here in the, in the form of that foreign minister. but there are 2 pretty sizable elephants in the rooms of the, of this guest house of the federal, for a ministry in germany, just outside bilingual village policies. you know, so would were paneled rooms,

of course, lots of flags everywhere, but 2 very sizable, f o elephants in the room about donald trump. i'm glad you me a present. of course, donald trump, everybody sees him coming into office soon. of course, he's claimed that he wants to end the war quickly with a sort of peace deal between of the us and russia primarily. and this is a guessing warnings from lena bab of german farmers to saying that they have must be no peace over the heads of the ukrainians that they have to be involved in that heavily. and that there must be no peace over the heads of the europeans. also stressing that, um and also i think a point that she made, which was very interesting. and people going to be looking at saying that ukraine and europe both need what she called heart security guarantee was that it's not enough just to say, okay, we have a c 5, maybe vladimir putin gets to hold on to some of the territory that he's taking with the both ukraine and you're going to need real guarantees, credible guarantees that all of this is not going to just erupt sometime soon again

. but the other aspects of, of all of this is not just towards don't front, but also towards sliding my boots in trying to demonstrate that europeans are really taking that own security seriously. finally, off to decades of underweight investment. um, so a message that of both tools most go and towards washington, european leading european countries are taking that seriously. but that quickly becomes, of that discussion. of course, about money. how much are you are paying countries that she willing to spend on their own defense, as we've seen, you know, this famous a nato target of spending 2 percent of g d, p on defense. how many countries have been lagging behind that germany has only finally hit that target this year, and you have countries far apart. so in that taking, pausing these talks, now you have total into which is well above 4 percent of gdp. you're spending initially which around one and a half or even low represent of gdp. so big gap there and trying to, to, to get

a common sense of purpose towards agreeing on what is a suitable target for. now a lot of talk about 3 percent of g d p being a potential new target. i think this will also be part of the discussions. i'm so here today, but also going forward. all right, well have to leave it. the richard will cut chief international edits over at to thank you so much for bringing this up to date the yeah, that was my colleague speaking with. alright, time magazine has named us president elect donald trump. it's person of the year. the recognition comes on the same day. trump rang the opening bell, new york stock exchange times editor in chief ed trump. was the person who voted for better or for worse, had the most influence on the news. this year, sam jacobs added that trump made a story come back and re shape the presidency and his reordering american politics . you'll also find person of the year back in 2016 earlier i spoke to dw corresponded benjamin alvarez group or in washington. he said that this decision

was not unexpected. that's right. it wasn't a big surprise. we had some room is already over yesterday. this is usually a difficult decision. that's what the magazine said, but it was not the case. this year, the magazines editor and c, same jacobs, referred to donald trump. when is a he story come back. and he also says that it's hard to argue with the fact that the person who's moving into the oval office is the most influential person in use . and with this president to like beat a short list of this final is for this title. it also included it vice president campbell a have is russian economy, julia and nevada. yeah. the widow of russian. a position to lead to alex a novel and the being now named is a time at testing of the year for the 2nd time of to 2016. if you just set in the basement, tell us a little bit more about the interview that trump gave to time magazine. it was a wide ranging interview reading time, 59 minutes. so an hour that touched on several topics from this election victory,

the economy that was in ukraine also in the middle east and his plans for the 2nd administration. so if we look at the 1st one of these and topics that i just named, one of them is a ukraine where you criticize the use of us supplied me selves for attacks deep into russian territory. and he also rates are rated and will look at the us that he's going to pause and most of those convicted in volumes at the us capital in january 6, 2021. and is that the thing that also sit out for me during this interview is that he said that you would consider altering childhood vaccination programs in the us. is that he was have discussions with robert f. kennedy junior, this vaccine skeptic that he nominated to run the us department of health and human services. he did not explicitly say the vaccines cause autism a false claim that has been defined several times, but when he was pressed,

he said that very serious testing indeed is in needing and time magazine wrote that . and he said that merely suggesting it is also it creating a, this alignment of funding and alignment with the misinformation. it has been fueled by anti vaccine movement for use. and i remember it back in 2016 when the time to put them on the cover. it was, it was a big deal. it generated lots of headlines, is doing that this year as well. what's been the reaction there in the united states or so the reaction has been different to 2016 is that there was some room is already saying that he would be a the person of the year. but also what's quite similar when we looked at those interviews that they made. but now the time magazine also provided a fact pseg and context of several of trump. statements that is ranging from numbers on migration falls claim on gender as a nation. surgeries, crowd size is just to name a few of them, and trump himself called this a tremendous on his saying that he liked it this time. even better. referring

interest that to the $2161.00 time time magazine named tim tests and of the year for the 1st time after winning the presidency. it's been over as goober, with the least in washington. benjamin, thank a teenage pregnancy from india has become the youngest ever chess world champion. 18 year old who cashed on the rise. you won the final game and a 14 match series and single 4 thanks to a blunder by his chinese opponent. the youngster takes over the title of youngest champion from russia's garry kasparov. he was 22 when he was nearly 4 decades ago. okay. she says his victor, he was the best moment of his relatively young life. all right, let's get a quick reminder now of our top story is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu says, is really forces will remain indigo one heights until the border security between israel and syria is guaranteed. it's really troops sees parts of the heights

earlier this week. it has also been conducting strikes against military targets in syria. i'll be back in 90 minutes with more of old news, followed by the day hope to see you the the

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