is a living sea to europe of trees. gold, jenny reset on d. w. the is the state of leaders line from berlin, ferry, and speck of the pieces after the fall of the off on receiving every day life begins to return to the streets of the capital, damascus. even the hundreds attend the funeral and we're leaving anti government activists also on the program. us officials worried that the size make changes in syria can help so called the sonic state military regain power. and time magazine names, us president elect donald trump, is person of the year for the 2nd time signing a political come back, a quote, historic proportion. the

welcome to the show on the call fairly. g 7 liter is planned, talks today to coordinate their approach to syria's revel leadership. a group of the world's leading industrialized countries has already stated that in woodland, it's full support to the transition for a government that is inclusive and non sectarian. the rebels are largely in control of serial now and a sense of normalcy as returning to many places. it just stays after the full of busha, assad government life appears to be returning to normal in the syrian capital of damascus. the curfew imposed on residents of to his hours thing is now being relaxed. shops open again and people out buying clothes and food. so if i'm talking about how do i could was closed for about 2 days and then we

opened again, but just until 5 pm, we had a cou, a few because there were a few robberies. some people had weapons and was shooting at each other. it was a mess. the know thing, so fine. when i'll feel a little better, we can move around. everything is okay the last on the list. but as things return to normal, news of some of the most beautiful aspects of the subdivision is emerging. hundreds gathered the funeral as well. no, no position activist at mazda in a mazda, he died from torture in one of assets notorious prisons. in day he has become a symbol of the hovers that the old government is prepared to inflict on any one who spoke out this. this

was the one we lead. we are the goose. i thought she would leave prison and speak out. but when i found out he had been executed, huttfield bro, come to see she wasn't to live. we still don't know what's like going to happen in syria. we are still here, just told people that we will live and that we will prosper and syria will be built again with our own house, stay on the remnants of the old regime being removed all over the country. the old red, white, and black flag on the shop front is being painted over a metaphor for the country wanting to start to new you know, we use element as in the syrian capital, damascus, and i asked her, the situation in the country was beginning to stabilize well,

we have to keep in mind that 1st of all, there is still a momentum where there is there a new new route and assets and the old rules are not valid anymore. so there is a lot of uncertainty. and there also is like a and then bit of a power vacuum. yesterday the new government has announced that the old constitution will not be valid anymore for the next 3 months. so things are really a little bit on search. and we also should keep in mind that there are still conflict in going on in the country and military actions yesterday for the people go on to it. in the northern city of whitaker, these were active us who were celebrating the full of assaults that were protesting in favor of a h t. s. and they are accusing the curtis and that s b s that they have shorts of these activities on these activities. now, so there are plenty of outside actors interested in influencing developments in

syria, who's been most active so far in this past week. as well mainly, oh the um for and forces that have already assuring the interest for many, many years here and 00 a trying to influence the transition process again. first of all, of course we have the countries who are in favor and supporting the new government . we have, for example of kata that has said that the, they want to reopen the embassy. turkey also mentioned that they want to re open the embassy, and the chief of the tuckers intelligence has paid a visit to damascus yesterday. and then we also have a turkey and at the u. s. and the u. s. secretary of state lincoln met yesterday with the turkish president at around. this is important because um in the us um is uh um. so forcing the curtis uh, forces in the north uh,

in the far as against isis. but these uh, forces are seen by turkey as terrorist. so this is why the conflict is still ongoing despite these play yesterday. and of course we have a israel israel hub care. it has carried out many errors twice and the last couple of days and is also advancing for the into the surround territory. and the syrian observatory of human minds has mentioned that israel's forces now in a mountain than members of the syrian diaspora around the world, are eager to return to their country either to visit for the 1st time in many years or to move back. but some are also leaving syria. why is that? yes indeed. and i myself could witness that as well when i was crossing from the on, on entries into syria. because there was a huge cure on the east border of uh,

thousands of people who wanted to at least syria for various different reasons. there was some people who were supporters of assets and who um, who are now afraid that they will face consequences. but there are also people who belonged to monta or a 2 such as the christians or curds. and you say that they are worried that they might not be ground to rights and that, that there might extra suppression as well. i have to look into many christians in the last couple of days and um they say they are completely worries that they feel like, you know, they will soon be the ones that will suffer the new government. but we also have to keep in mind that i've had that aside, really use the sentences for years and years and he was telling interest the fine also his power by telling other minority likes like the christian, but without him they would be suppressed as well as rebels have of course vowed to

protect minorities, that was the w corresponded, settlement in damascus. thank you us. as we just heard us secretary of state entering blank and met with turkish president ridge of type air to want to discuss fighting that's threatening to be stabilized. northern syria, the u. s. interview some ford rival groups and the conflict for a turkish fact militia has been finding of heard is lead force at anchor us as our terrace. the u. s. regards to syria incurs is allies, especially as a bulwark against the power vacuum left by the fall of charlotte side. i wanna washington's chief concerns in post us on syria is preventing the reemergence of the so called a sonic states. terrorist group, hardliners limis group was spawn and the chaos of serious civil war a decade ago. the syrian current supported by the us played a key role in the feeding. and here's one almost immediately as rebel forces

reached damascus on sunday to topple president flush all assets regime. us forces conducted precision air strikes in syria. as part of the operation, american war plain struck more than 75 targets. official said the strikes were part of their ongoing mission to prevent the so called islamic state, also known as i, s, or isis from reconstituting in central syria. you can expect that that kind of activity will continue. we don't want to give ice as an opportunity to explore what's going on. they love nothing more than ungoverned space. i s is a terrorist group, bent on establishing a global calif that it goes to prominence in 2014, when its forces took advantage of the ongoing syrian more to cease vast swans of territory at its height. in 2014, it held about a 3rd of syria and 40 percent of a rock. it conducted terrorist attacks worldwide killing and injuring thousands and

destroyed cultural heritage. on an unprecedented scale, the kurdish forces have played an essential role in helping the united states and other countries bottle. i asked for more than a decade the groups, territory, and military capabilities were largely contained and disabled by 2019. but they were never completely eradicated with many fighters going under ground. in the years since as syria civil war stagnated, the curves with us backing have operated prisons filled with fighters, accused of being as terrorist but neighboring turkey views, armed curds so close to its border as a threat and his back to renewed attacks against them. in recent days, the u. s. has repeatedly said that it is committed to the enduring defeat of i s, but with a change of administration looming in washington. many question whether that

commitment will hold whatever the vitamin ministration might set as policy now could certainly change. after january 27th, once once trump takes office, trump himself has said that he wants to see how the situation plays out on the ground. he doesn't necessarily see a large role for the united states. but will that mean that he takes those troops out? around $900.00 american troops are currently stationed in eastern syria. the question now is for how much longer zach of shinla is a senior director of the calendar extremism project here in berlin hines. good to see you again. how much of a threat does the so called islamic state still posed in syria today as well? i mean, it's very clear that at the moment as it currently stands, it doesn't have enough resources and fights is to hold any territory. but it is also clear that over the last 12 to 14 months, every month i, as in syria,

was able to conduct more and more terror attacks, which means they is an existing cell network structure that it allows. it's to act as a terrorist operation, but not yet to control the territory. the real risk is all the crowds really beacon enough that although the big idp can, or any of the kurdish prisons that they hold around 25000 individuals linked to icy . so the fighters and their families are they, are they going to lose security? and i'd be going to see present breaks, like we did in 2022 from i asked when they attacked the hock of prison. curtis areas. yes. i mean, curves are fighting and turkish back militias in the north is where those camps are . and does turkey have any interest in that kind of an opportunity for i s o in a neighboring country? no, of course to a few 1000 that has been high as the tax in turkey over the last few years,

fairly regularly. not quite as bad as your but they'll have to be bought for turkey . the priority is no courage fighters at the border, whole syria in turkey, and definitely, no, i told them, you know, self rule of the kurdish areas in syria list there. types of codes in turkey would get similar ideas. so there is a real priority here, and it seems to be at this point at least seems to be willing to take the risk that the crowds lose control over some at least of the security can installations that hold ice as individuals. we heard john kirby, they're saying that i us likes nothing more than an uncover and space. are the rebels fully in control of the country, or is there a power vacuum that is could exploit as well? no one is in control of the entire country at this point. that is the h j. s. coalition, which governs it lip and has control all of the state and control over the

government areas, which is quite a big part of the theory up. but it doesn't have taken good full control. it has only about $30000.00 fighters and it's a lot of non us citizens and villages to control. then the other codes that area is slowly shrinking the mean attacks and mon beach, over the last weekend by a turkish, by forces as a turkish turkish military operation in co, bonnie going going. and then of course, there is this sir national army, this texas back group which operates along the border of syria and take. so there's really 3 spaces this year and the form of government areas, not yet fully under control of it. she is not because government forces are resisting, simply because the coordination doesn't have enough fighters to control all the villages and cities in that quite large part of siri. the u. s. a target and a number of suspected i,

a spaces across syria over the last few days. what can you tell us about those strikes? what is, was very clear that 2 things that going on these railways are removing all of the strategic weapons that the syrian resume army have to make sure that we have a common stomach. schools is not able to use these immediately to attack israel, while the americans, as they have done in the past, are concentrating exclusively on pisces. i. the cells i says network nodes is a concentrations of fighters to make sure that i see is going to take advantage of a potential gail spare time of getting security. lots of control over some errors, off syria to a not being able to challenge the security of those installations that the codes also during at the moment while they continue to see what date is the fighting, both turkey and you took it back to your national army and beats that the sales i'm not as free to operate has they did the last couple of them. now,

i guess is considered an illness terraced organization finding us and many other states. but so is h t s, and they have vowed to to a rule with moderation, they do have a jihad us passed though. so how concerned are the us and other western states about them being much more radical than they let on? i think there's 2 issues to consider here. so one is of course the ideology of h this which is extreme is islam is regardless of what mr. delani and i missed a shot that new prime minister in their environment is still serious say. but even if they are absolutely serious in what they saying and be on hope they are age, there's as part of coordination and that correlation in groups, groups like after all shop or the tourist on his nomic parties who are absolutely fully hot core extreme is disciplined miss pac officially still as far as the ticket is. i'm just,

i'm just let me thought to go to these concerns off the outside and now these words box, click and guides together with h d. as they are going to ask for a shared power. and they, i, the only to do is that makes them will have to be accommodated by h t s e or h. this is risking a internal fide within its own correlation. and therefore, even most of those on the back of send, the always great speaking to thank you so much for those insights. we get so much now after the fall of the servers in syria, questions has been raised about the status of the hundreds of thousands of syrians who slept the civil war to europe. several governments have already suspended sarah and sound claims, and some say they're planning to deport them to. nobody has been speaking to syrians living, and we're learning together. review on the events of, of the last days, a joy in berlin. on that day, syrians worldwide will never forget the downfall of their regime and the hope for

rise of a new syria. berlin, i t engineer my right e o my e and his compatriots, celebrated all matter. you got through to his mom as well. my name with a girlfriend. i caused my mother an issue, but i couldn't speak. i cried and laughed at the same time in the background in my head and when i couldn't believe that something was gone but i think is chap feeling fit to share. i lift faulty for us, and sir we had our wounds by us sucked into before him. his father's and i've always been afraid of this regime. the minus thought, how about i use family is from hama the site just last week of perhaps the turning point in the long civil war. when rebels overran government forces on the way to taking damascus back in berlin. another syrian student show brian as

um, to is overjoyed, even writing a poem to this moment. he's among the hundreds of thousands of syrians granted protective status here. but unlike l y e, a new german citizen, as um, may not be allowed to stay. like other countries, germany is the spending decisions on asylum claim is by syria. nationals is closed and i don't think germany will simply send people back to their homeland isn't a whole, but we're building ourselves, they do them. and i'm still studying here on the dodge and those with the germans have supported here for the for 5 or 67 years, and then to just throw it away and send us home home this weekend. i don't believe that gus cloud explanation as much as they'd like to be back home. the syrians in germany see an evolution there after the revolution. and let's take a look now at some of the other stories making headlines around the world. because our civil defense agency says around 60 people have been killed and recent as

really strikes on the gaza strip agencies. as in sarah, one of the target and buildings with sheltering thousands of displaced people is really military is not. you have commented on the attacks on drove us parliament has voted to impose a state of emergency from december 16th due to unexpected cut off. russian gas went over, gets russian natural gas find you. frank. cave has said it will not extend its transit contract with russian gas. john gas prong, meaning supplies are expected to stop on january 1st. georgia is preparing to choose a new president on saturday. that's the 1st time the head of state will be selected by 300 member college of electors, rather than through a direct route. the incumbent pro is you president solomon's rubbish, really calls the process illegitimate and says she isn't going anywhere. hundreds

happened, arrested in georgia since protests broke out over a decision to halt a membership talks. students have been a driving force of those nightly protests, but many are now worried about the future of the pro a you movement. he's always, yeah, gosh she, what else get reports from by to me? it feels empty outside and inside the accomplishing but to me. and then and many of our students of roman ending this technology. they are, i'm with many who have chosen to boy classes. so normally this is the busiest floor in the university. so this whole like starting from there and ending there is usually very crowded. be striking since the government to put the efforts to join you on hold. but they also worry about the future of the movement. there are some students who are considering coming back to the classes, which doesn't really make any sense because if you're protesting, continued to protect until the point is made until the adult is put in the sentence,

right? students are striking, gets to other universities and my to me, the pro use sentiment is strong in the city. but some people are getting impatient is all of this needs to and they need to resolve in sibley. what was it? the students, the composition, the active list, and the state must somehow come to an agreement, which i'm gonna probably use any booth. but if the students won't protest, they won't have any future here. they'll get stuck in the current situation and for many, yes. so the protests are needed, not only for them, but also for us. the same. i mean, i'm losing a protest they do for some, it's an exciting task. this group is setting up the electric generator and power and the sound system for all those products are already a routine was

a government holds firm it is unfair to where to start this, this heading and how the political process in georgia could do results to you but to be people are gathering every the, just like in the capital peak is also taking a total of them. every georgian citizen now all which i purchasing every day i was thinking about uh, feeling uh, tired or uh, uh, feeling helpless. even um, like every, every, each of i understand that we don't, that we don't have any other choice. we are sitting here and we are waiting to some of the people from politics to help us. and to tell us what we can do after all, these very difficult, if we don't, when i believe that i and my generation, the young people will leave georgia and then,

and many of them are here to feel like it's something we already got used to. i just don't want people to get tired, i'm not going to get tired. i don't want imagine any other ending. then, grayson's being effective, the georgians going to process are not ready to back down. time magazine has named you as president elect donald trump as person of the year. the recognition comes on the same day. a trauma rang the opening balance, the new york stock exchange times editor. and she said from was the person who quoted for better or for worse, and the most influence on the news this year. sam jacobs added that trumps made a story come back 3 says the presidency and is reordering american politics. it was also times person of the year in 2016. they'll be able to respond to benjamin alvarez has more on terms interview with time magazine that there was

a wide ranging interview reading time, 59 minutes. so an hour that touched on several topics from this election victory of the economy that was in ukraine also in the middle east and his plans for the 2nd administration. so if we look at the 1st one of these topics that i just named, one of them is a ukraine where you criticize the use of us apply missiles for attacks deep into russian territory. and he also rates are rated and will look at the us that he's going to pause and most of those convicted in volumes at the us capital in january 6, 2021. and is that the thing that also sit out for me during this interview? you said he said that you would consider altering childhood vaccination programs in the us. is that he was have discussions with robert f. kennedy junior. this vaccine skeptic that he nominated to run the us department of health and human services. he did not explicitly say the vaccines cause autism a false claim that has been defined several times, but when he was pressed,

he said that very serious testing indeed is a meeting and time magazine wrote that. and he said that merely suggesting it is also it creating a, this alignment of funding and alignment with admission formation that has been fueled by anti vaccine movement for use as benjamin alvarez. a teen named jess prodigy from india has become the youngest of her world champion, 18 year old girl cast. i'm a roger won the final game and a 14 match series and single port thanks to a blunder by his chinese opponent ling, ending the rent. i'm a roger a takes over the title of youngest a champion from russia's garrick aspire off. he was 22 when he won nearly 4 decades ago. the rod uses his victory was the best moment of his life. coming up after the break to the point discusses assad's downfall and whether serial can be reborn, state you in for that, i'm looking for the hearing roland,

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with one daring goals to help smart nature. the more likes watching it. on youtube dw documentary, the end came pretty fast of the 14 years of civil war. the syrian rebel of h t. s, and their allies, the powers, the hated dictator, asada. after a lightning compact. for 5 decades, they also have family role, syria with an iron fist stuff, dictate dish, torture random executions, have brutal secret service. millions fled in the hall. fost syrians had to find refuge elsewhere and she is the face. awesome victory off met a shower, a formal i'll tell you the terrorist turn celebrate to deliberate to can the unify a country that has been a portion of the region.