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the russians venarsik, that's after a short break and don't forget this time some more news and information on our website data view. com. and you can follow some social media or handle is to go in and use. i'll be back again at the top of the next hour. take care. the my name is the calls back. said wow, thank you so much for joining in. welcome to don't hold bad. a lot of people do that. as soon as i was saying it loud, next, would it be nosy bay like good everyone to king to check out the award winning called called the called back. so shock disaster and inside the and tyra, facebook escalating the room? i mean, even though the very last moment we thought they'd reach an agreement that's typical
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and nothing bad would happen in your brain as a joke. busy trista, i got a call from a friend at 6 am saying, tonight russia attacked your father's homeland. so, my 1st thought was good. this, my parents are not any more of the swell, deep and not experienced. let's go to the 24th of february 2022. got them 2 hours later, i was outside the embassy of the russian federation with the plank called that said, stop the war. why no good every so it's becomes north eric and all the compo, send, don't seem very soon that optical leaves to do some to trans gulf rushes invasion of ukraine has left lap via is russian speaking minority, emotionally profoundly torn up the 1900000 people in, in un nato member lafayette,
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one and 4 have russian roots, the invasion, reawakened old fears and prejudices, as well as growing hostility towards asinique russians associated with the former soviet occupiers, the following, it's annexation of latvia. in the 1940s, the soviet union encouraged russian migration in order to speed up industrialization in the country. lat, via re gained independence in 1991. but relations between the russians, speaking minority and loudly and majority have been increasingly strange. the standard slots grew up in a typical soviet era, housing and state. the russian invasion has brought untold suffering to ukraine and has had an indirect impact on the russian speaking minority and lafayette. about
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the just got the from the, the 24th of february 2022 minutes above old, deep disappointments thing with the cult of the courageous russian people. in the bravery i associated with my russian roots, they promised us that phone guy had, has, i hope, now being destroyed for as long as a law. and i just assumed that as an option at the below. oh boy, now which is good when i had to recognize that the coverage i had believed in was just an illusion. after a long period of being a reflection, i concluded that i am left scene of russian to send to the post. the letter shows a couple of ways because then you use the most of a pro sent me you never gave any thought to who i was until i got older and realize there was a late fee and majority society, which russian speak is like me, will not console if you will, shift a lot to the store. yeah, it was coming within,
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came the doubts about my identity program. i russian, should i go to russia? that's for am i actually live in? yeah, that's what i see. perhaps a russian speaking lancey in minneapolis could go what asked you what this does to move this to if you want us just to be of simple at your life. i do the, the windows such questions when i was younger, we'd go to the made the 9th celebrations when schools were closed on them at home, we watched russian tv in new old, the russians, the liberties, the real. we had no idea or about laughing and culture. we were living in a bubble wheel. uh that goes really slow, you know? because they do the freaking out. i see. okay. you know, the low cost of baseball over the changing, even before the russian invasion of ukraine look on yours, but they weren't as pronounced on the moon. your costs are still go for the bush. the world was a trigger. the feeling of symbols, and by then there was this deeply negative attitude towards anything russian,
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russian identity and nationality or whatever with with silk. but it feels as if everything russian is automatically considered bad or evil. so it was great. the blue with duck look up with and that's why i mean you have the good because i don't want to lease away from fold see any controls yet to to do it. reno was born and bred in latvia, her mother, a 2nd world war veteran move to lab the after the war in search of a better life. there. many russians speakers have fond memories of when latvia was part of the soviet union until its sudden collapse changed everything. now cause even us to what was it like in 1991 and you know, yeah, for me i remember when that it said independence. the actual, the most we knew it was happening in this. it was
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a fact so was not much you can say shows that i'm ready. so notice and so nothing changed. left remained the same. so you look up when you put me nothing changed. of course things changed. i lost my job because my university was close down in 91. no, not really. yes. right off to independence. maybe some so it's a pretty my was finishing up with a very serious couple me in life. and the soviet era was very good, even though it's due, but then came the ninety's when everything was turned upside down you, you weren't moved up of the can. you know, they've been moments when we didn't know how we were going to survive and how we were supposed to behave with duckworth on the 6th of september 1991, the soviet union formerly recognized black v as declaration of independence before itself becoming history a few months later, following the final stages of its collapse the
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prior to the events of the early 19 ninety's version to soviet rule had led to the emergence of a new national awakening movement and a peaceful struggle to regain independence. on the 23rd of august 1989 over 2000000 people in estonia, latvia and lithuania, formed a 650 kilometer long human chain connecting the country's capitals. on the 50th anniversary of the hitler, stalin, non aggression pact which had divided north eastern europe into german and soviets spears of influence. a demonstration of solidarity and to call for freedom and independence from the soviet union. i'll be in the nor lily. it was one of the popular friends biggest protest events, oboski search, if that's the bones of way. also includes the idea of a return to europe in all that was gonna appear in the way towards nato membership
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. on the heads of a balding search, which is why the baltic way no longer belongs to our people. job sandra, calling you to was a key figure in the movement and a leading member of the popular front of lafayette, a political group committed to latvian independence. she's now a member of the european parliament. it's not the same cotton. no, i think i remember exactly when i had my personal awakening for you to sort. it was the 14th of june, 1987 when the helsinki, 86 movement called on people to lay flowers by the freedom monumental spinning and remembrance of the large scale deportations on the 14th of june. 1941. god fail on the post office the but i didn't have the courage to do it. despite 3 of my grand parents subsequently dying, my parents being deported and i myself being born in their symbols on their style.
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and it was then that i experienced a profound change. i've got the cool products in the wake of the hitler style impact, also known as the muller top ribbon, trump packed the soviet union, occupied latvia in 1940 and deported tens of thousands of innocent people to siberia, several 1000 kilometers east, taken away from their homeland and in many cases, their very lives taken away the will to be the, the, the, the war began in 1941 die. so they did. ortiz faced and extreme struggle to survive when fox disc, because of the guns they were left with practically no food. a mom or father left defense to lock in the office ma'am, to my mother always dropped off on an uninhabited island ex, together with 200 other people underneath it. they had to dig their own earth huts,
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housing, and somehow find something to eat. the 3. so events in ukraine are bringing all of that back up the, the not own fear of history repeating itself by you come off to the car to see a fear that is very strong. give me the system very to. so the beach oh, good lab. be in russian rider, marina cost. and yet scott was one of the co founders of the popular front of latvia alongside song that i call you to. and one of its most active members, even of kimberly email to do both that the in the kremlin parliamentarians from lithuania latvia, estonia fortunately demanded that the muller, tough ribbon, trump packed and secret protocols. he declared no, and void, said yet you will bring it to the stage 3 months,
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practically paced the way for the independence of the both estate or drew a forts. mason must have both his gifts before we can set the best buy's fish on the 4th of may. 1990 is a very special day in my life and my new and i think for a lot of other lesbians to auto sawgrass mills. and there was this wave of joy and happiness on the streets of a political hill. it was not to be adopted. our declaration of independence is declared. i'll say yes soon, what you will and nobody was on the barricade all night if it got there never where i went, i could hear a lot of people speaking russian booth the there were widespread fears that moscow might respond to the declaration of independence with the military invasion and re occupation following a tax on rica by a lead soviet units in january 1991,
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the latvian government called on the population to erect barricades for protection . at the blue, you'd just, it was the only time when we stood shoulder to shoulder and joined hands. we'll go to school. there were lots of russians, manning the barricades, but they were betrayed. they will often stand with us and they will promise citizenship and all other privileges. and people believed that lou, that's when the division happened, that was still paying for today, but it didn't work. as lot of people became an independent state, everyone would move there since 1940, and their families were denied citizenship and the right to vote almost a 3rd of the population. it would be many years until they were able to become citizens in the country of their birth video as well. so it's important to look back on history. luckily, because the 1st major step taken by lot via was to re establish the community of locked in citizens as it was in 1940 the cause of meeting the inclusion of all lot
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v and citizens and their descendants went to that stage dorothy to be and that included many minorities russians pull his gun juice and others got a but i will take the next step was the law of laying down clear rules for becoming a lot. be and citizens legal guy, this little thing called cost this bar glue, lock this bill. so, you know, the effective date essentially required 3 things, you know, speaking the language and understanding the country's history and swearing allegiance, and loyalty to the state. a governess does agree, why did a section of the russian minority choose not to apply for citizenship? is it you'll have to ask them yourself, been blocked with go? sonya cause a all that is because of the all the venue with the 50000, from the outset. the lachey and one to the official language to be flat fee and
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money. when you have this idea of all the russian schools now teaching classes and that fee and still back then in the ninety's, nobody dad to push the issue. it was simply too dangerous to give us a good looking to book a music costa will astonish. come up us much since the turn of the millennium, the authorities have been gradually increasing the proportion of latvian language classes at minority schools. leading to repeated protests from the russian community. as of the 20252026 school year, all children are set to be taught exclusively in lab fee. and the say
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fuck, i assure you missed it, but almost done with as we've only just begun the transitional phase. so i mean, there's still difficulties us to throughout the course. children initially have a bilingual language curriculum, and from 5 grade it's all at the end to coordinate them. we're gradually getting used to it. but so far the transition isn't without its problems seem youth and they've got some parents find it annoying. well, for others, it's not a big deal here, and we're splitting them out of their adapting to the new situation and helping their children do that to you to going forward assignment those on the field of support to pushes to thoughts. so just know that i know some families who are saying we're going to leave because we want our kids to preserve the russian language. we want them to be told. and then by the time music, you of the not putting the money on my boss, he's like, you know, so you're processing the national language is running sides. i think it should have
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happened sooner cause to put a bowl listening. russian is the 2nd language at schools is expensive because it would be nice for them to be able to study the language that they speak at home. i believe the tuesday when you talk a tucker doesn't provide it with norma available because thing i see. but my new marketing that would be great if they could talk about the books that the parents are giving them to read it. and if they are, and then it would be the only way of guessing to know them. that the total that they just said was more of a staples and acquirements. they make us to send the apple sat down to reserve the national identity as more of the job of families than of schools. that's, i don't think the children will suffer that much. well, it's not being able to study their mother tongue at state schools, somebody's in the spring, you might, those funding is still probably find other options for doing that. austin, this cooler, a little smaller because if they show, if they feel that strongly about it would look i'm losing them was a decimal with this which has because if the sure the,
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the whole, vince is a romanian member of the european parliament and president of an umbrella organization that advocates for national minorities and regional languages on the continent. the human rights court said that basically lots of what was right when they tried to stop the russian language education in, in the, in the schools and to close down to the restaurant schools. because the role of the, or the obligation of the state is only to offer education and public education a not in one language. so unfortunately, it's so use the vote on ukraine. there is a stigma on, on, on the russians. and yes, there are problems. certainly there is
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a russian profile, gotten the money police are not even individuals from the community who have a to tied to relation uh with their i signed out on the us. and he, for those months we have speaking about individuals and he should speak about the community here and then the community needs the support. it's a hor, it's fine sending for everybody, but the shark media states i'm supporting you even though and, and i making sure you will have your school. you will have your maybe i the minority language you will have you keep your car to the institution. i said so live via has accused of russia of using language and culture to so discord and conflict. meanwhile, the war in ukraine has seen memories of the 2nd world war, deepening the divine and so piety and less the russian minority struggling to reconcile its identity with loyalty to lafayette mortgage. good mamma, extended time. do you remember when we went to the memorial on the 9th of may,
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you got them. i begin the slips. do you remember when the kids came to congratulate you and give you flowers to be restored? she gets a good to enjoy that. didn't you know it was to be a there the official the what do you remember the war of a new home just not really seem here. so nonsense may was the most important holiday. and now family seem here a safe way for me because my mother served in the will through through june, but almost with the 5 minutes a day when we remember just soldiers who gave their lives defending latvia and other play allows you to show you the game is the so loosely easy for decades during the soviet hero victory parking riga hosted annual celebrations on the 9th of may. but well for some the day marked victory and the great patriotic war over nancy, germany for others. it was the beginning of an occupation that mind. we came here on the 9th of may. my grandma said these are the songs we used to sing back then up
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. the 9th of may has become so politicized. but i don't go to the celebrations anymore, but did teach if i felt i was just being herded alone to show that 35000 people had . yeah, the only for them to say this has been use it. you ation with the okay, what we did here in 2022. the lab being government now declared the 9th of may a day of remembrance for the victims of the war and ukraine started by russia 3 months earlier. it called on people to refrain from laying flowers at memorials, which it said glorified the soviet occupation. many still that their flowers were removed the very next morning, instead of previously several days afterwards, prompting outrage and some people to come back and lay more flowers. the next day let him up ship beloved of a slightly. why would people even allowed to lay flowers in a time of war and such attention? according to police, they are allowed then removing the flowers. the next day is a direct attack on the russian speaking population. what i swore it was
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a signal of the government's relationship with them, at least it'll still go right. ask you a lot to be in the pocket and you made it by category pressure administrating your can you some of the flower layers express pro russian sentiment. yes. you was sorry it's and that's pretty neighbors that are not simple. my guy at the, i'm going is done new york. we're on the do you want not put my guys, you want to know for my guys, you want the new models report this to our new but that moves the are you for? she's good. you need somebody you might get, but i've done zillow's videos are spinning nickel. we wouldn't have heard about the victory memorial if it hadn't been instrumental ice by moscow. lucky's cause to create division and lot be as russian community now. and then all that for so that they still that su open them. nobody used to go there in the 1st few years after independence of you know, putting on that after coupon came to power and started reviving this old colt. the
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place gradually became this huge and extremely distasteful stage for rallies from the mills and sold to our dignity, newark, and live. but the, and to our state, the size of i'm almost busty annual because basically it's a symbol of colonial rule bio to say the colonial. i lost a lot of singles here in august 2022. the obelisk in the heart of victory park was torn down the or the most just an afford them set up a mr. this is where the monument deliberations the free guy used to be
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a real loan of contention between the lot fans and russians. yeah. for numa i am to stem the russians to whom the 2nd world war is a wounds that never heal is an in built memory passed on from generation to generation religion. yes. with the gains which could pardon me. i also understand the lesbians to whom the liberation of re go from the german occupies did not mean liberation from all occupier, as it was getting near the gear or the work you can go with your most is uh we also have to liberate ourselves visually from these memories of the most trying times in our history. the last today, you will get will that the when you, when you mom for a long time, i couldn't understand why there was so much in tagging this, them on that day. yeah. put them with the peninsula when i started giving it most tools, i did understand deluxe, and that's why this celebration was so alien to them. but then with this, just give a local but because of the occupation and then the deportations to siberia and
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other things. so they, so i emphasize to sort of that to the, we would like to create a uniform unit there. everybody can enjoy at least some standard, some on minority rights, and the have the lots of discussions with sounds like on youth and other friends from the baltic states, no the reserves, but they, they supported the this initiative. the fact that so many minorities can cool, ave tate in a peaceful and constructive way like our minorities are doing here a lot to yeah, i think that is something which could be of great use for those
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members. states who are not experiencing probably for the 1st time, the real difficulties of integration. this is not at this stage who has to say, oh i did everything. so my minority, these they, they are okay. know as the minority, if they are happy with the situation they are living in the us, which is it's become really difficult for russians here. but it's difficult to see yourself is representing a nation that is the aggressor who to acknowledge the blame, while also preserving your own sense of dignity. it's difficult to accept and
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understand all of that. today i'm a shame to be russian, but will never renounce my russian roots cutting me. know if someone asks me what nationality i am. i'll say i'm a lot to be in a tree at of russian defend junior college. and just a lot of people now have a very black and white view of thing. and you know, the, that's understandable. given that there's a war going on not far away. the last the ends of finding it difficult to distinguish russian russians from russian speakers in lafayette, which is what i send to understand that 30 years of independence might seem like a brief moment. but he's, in fact, a pretty long time watching kind of with the competitors, with the company. i'm gonna send it in, you have to click on what the key. so when you see a little ski, we're not the same russians. we are like the russians who show that the people we've incorporated a lot of faults experienced and culture and a lot of latvia, nationality of i sure. the identity of lab be as russians speaking,
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minorities changing, especially in the wake of the war and ukraine. the key question for the country now is whether society will put the shadow of the soviet legacy behind it and overcome any remaining differences. i would say the, the, i still believe the majority of the lottery is russian and speaking good citizens. they are loyal to luxury, but there are those who still are under the influence of what is profound. and let's say on peak social ideas. the secretary, okay. uh, by to, to both lengthy ends and russians and have noticed how any conflict between us is becoming less of an issue with each new generation. takes the ups of diets, menchie inches custom for cutting, you know,
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20 or 30 years time. yeah. i don't think it will be a problem anymore and, but i thought there's still some more removed just disappear, of the time. cutting me such a story share from them. but you, elizabeth, i would love to see society moving closer together. i move full friendship between peoples. i'd love to be friends with a lot of it, and i really hope that happens. i love life feelings and last year. yep. has to do a new generation has grown up over the last 30 years. so i firmly believe that they and i young that to be in speaking russian generations will find a way of getting along with each other than that. we in the older generation, well consign all historical different says to the part story. so a story or the
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