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microns from the middle east that goes missing invalid was on the way to portland. that's up off the break. i'm number such as far as from one of the frontier in boyland. thank you so much for being with us. the name is the calls back. saved loud. thank you so much for joining. welcome to don't hold bad. a lot of people do that. it's all about saying it aloud. that's what it being nosy bay like good. everyone to king the healthy award winning called called the called back. i'm looking for my nephew, he read the separated we don't know what is going on. the
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border between poland and beller roost over the last 3 years. thousands of people have tried to reach the e. you here, despite the military presence on board our fence again and again, the traces of some of these migrants are lost in the primeval forest of palostio. okay, let's go. polish volunteers. search for clues about these people's whereabouts. people disappear and die. they pushed back and forth at the border. their relatives live with uncertainty the i'm but i'm afraid i'll never see him again. the
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the, my name is pete romano sky. i'm a german polish journalist. i'm here in london to meet with ray college. rashid fled northern iraq for britain more than 20 years ago. 3 years ago his nephew mohammed sapa also decided to leave a rack. he too wanted to come to europe and got your message. which of these is when we don't know, leasing is so hot and just kind of ignoring re coat lives alone in a one bedroom apartment in east london. he is not a bridge citizen and long works is a truck driver. these days he spends most of his time searching for mohammed.
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this guy is a homeless i. he's my nephew. these one me and him this one, the 2000 and penny. when i was about quitting this time. you get to visa, comfortable those as wash. uh, as was then november 2020 when these, when, when you went to men sick or wow, so not a lot of no the, the, the chicago has been an hour on wherever the com, i good day and evening, full of hope for the day and 20 to read mohammed, he informed his uncle in london about his every move. when did you hear from your left over the last time, april to me 2 days before the 29th of uh,
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november 2021 to 3 days before the leasing. is voice on december 1st 2021 mohammed central for the border. the humanitarian situation there had continued to worse than does it the we do this in videos on the board the
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that's was why he was stuck in was no man's land. yeah. and photos got on by the rest. yeah. and right up to 2000 people come to more and what they believe was a pleasure to be able to open the gate for them. and then the side pulled on the dim. we told him go back, but the other side below. oh no, they didn't. they came back so they was stuck in the middle. but the a could do nothing. i didn't know so people was missing me. it's my sister and that was all my nephew. i afterall went to escape. mohammed disappeared on
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december 2nd 2021. your abilities began systematically smuggling people to the border. in response pulling built a 185 kilometer long border fence. but even in 2024 migrants are trying to enter the u using russian or bell or russian visas routes, least through this one p. b. i la forest in northeastern poland. the, in the spring of 2024. a local police 8 organizations pop. find itself once again, receiving a growing number of emergency calls from the forest. the group has been active since the beginning of the migrant crisis here some way they are looking for missing people for people who will be wondering around for days, often without food soaking, wet and be hydrated in constant fear of being discovered by polish border guards
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and send back to belarus, i accompany him out, a huge co realtor, and 17 year old my 2 usually back. they proceed to call them pops hotline and are on their way to help a group of ethiopia, and they want to find them before the board of guards to keep working towards the clearing. i see your head to the left, the lot of realities besides this, look for a moment to is doing it. we will give you more food and some shows and would be. but the for the migrants,
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the clothes and food. but they also want to apply for asylum in poland because this could at least in theory, keep them from being immediately deported. back to bella luce, as an e u. member state, pulling this by one to consider all asylum applications. that is for everyone. this is about the procedures about and so that's not protection golden along so you don't, don't ok, just for your protection to the the group is laid out with the forest and liter handed over to the border guards who must officially register their applications of the seo peons were stuck in the border region for 3 weeks. one of them retains what they saw on the forest. on my way here, i saw some data bodies like tubal data bodies in the jungle.
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i saw in the polish forest a so collect on a human, so collect and, and also on the 11th floor, the can i so we will do infinity, which funds we fund you that says something about this, if you, hon, us the lovely, the date for the will be the did your body with the 5th community woke estimate of the volunteers if i were to search for the body, says 2021. the remains of at least 40 people have been assigned on the polar side of the border more than $340.00 people being reported missing and they're running 10 percent of those are still being actively searched for the one of them is mohammed saba.
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the is journey began in 2021 in airfield capital. the curtis and region sent me a tournaments region in northern iraq. despite political stability, the region struggles with corruption and an unemployment rate of nearly 40 percent . many young people leave their homes to try to reach you at to legally. the mohammad grew up in this neighborhood with his parents and siblings. he was 22 when he left for belarus. at the time, the overland route 2 unit was consider less dangerous than crossing the mediterranean. the little i had an outside take home and has wanted to go abroad since he was 15 us
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the many father sally. all the young people here talk about immigrating with guns to on calling. but when you is young, as mohammed and everyone around you is constantly talking about nothing else, we're leaving the country. we start takes hold of you and you can't get rid of it. i can't understand why they want to live in a foreign country. i don't think it's worth it. and so without him, my house feels empty. when he told us there was nothing for him to do here and we should be worked in
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a fruits store and got very little money for it at all, just as tell how much. so no future here. no prospect for though she's was hard for him because they'll go submitted to the check in with beans. i left was his favorite food fast through the find the old was a cover and couldn't do i use as a picture from the day. we said good bye to him. thank god. when he left my heart was restless. i'll combine in. the smugglers are not good people and we can't trust them or not. i bring myself a lot to night. i should have never allowed him to leave us a minute, but i didn't realize how dangerous his journey would be. but on this end of this, every day so about his signing, sophia, rashid hope, for news from europe. they refused to give up hope that their son is still alive.
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but despite an intensive search that are new definitely during the winter, but some how much sub i'm back on the road with volunteers from pop the organization. witnessing their search for missing persons in the pollution pollution border, the desktops, we often received information that someone has not contacted their relatives and needs help to members. nissan, i feel like we mustn't ignore any reports. this is a matter of life and death. how does your not be lock them as you keep it shuts off on i've received support from sophie and activists. they are looking for a missing egyptian man who disappeared without a trace here in northeastern poland 3 days ago. so he's between 3540 or salt,
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who throws up in little the pharmacy caused him side. so we'll go show child size. we kind of found the body of someone fearless. not the gold was this, uh, but the site, even when it would be next to the about the, the phone or some documents that don't touch those cartoon network. we will start that pens and step one of each other and go into a straight line. okay. okay, okay. the uh, super high school today, we got new information from his brother them. unfortunately, we know that she was mistreated by the better route in scripture and he was chronically ill local. he had no medications that were afraid that we might be too late when you called us back
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uh, contact. we knows that the family hasn't heard from him for a while and you've order. that's why we filed a missing persons report with the police and he is, and it's already been looking for him. hopefully by now. of the however, foolish authorities hardly ever carrier to lindsey and systematic search for missing persons. it is local volunteers who pick up the slack. why are you doing this here in the chair thought of each other because the state is doing too little because the author already is the doing next to nothing before and none of the beach you monetary and organizations are active here, right in front of the u. n h, the not the you end up with a go on we, the inhabitants of philosophy i have seen left a line from the very beginning of the clean up or something just kind of like short
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we managed to find a few people alive. sometimes someone you're looking for recently discovered dr. wild bead inability or is in prison or sometimes somewhere in gemini, but many searches and with no results. that's the case with mohammed somebody. well i'm, it is one of those missing migrant still being searched for years after his disappearance . his uncle, re code rashid and london is in close contact with active as pure tra, track on these one pita, i he's male present date. if i told the police, and then he's they signed me say if any news you're kind of going back to where i like find me. you know, i never forget them because they done the thing for us. with the interest help re co travel to poland in july 2022 to search for traces of his nephew
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9 days who was walden tries will avery, when we go to the board, the date is league did when these guys are missing was the fluid is that and then that time i last called photo, then maybe he's died on his journey rico did receive one important piece of information. feeling the police station we make a statement of police told me we are. is this guy when they will. they push him a few days before the missing i understand these guy. he came to illegal but why? you didn't put it back for it. ok is always, you know, county because these guy, nothing to do was the letters mohammed saba was the portrait to billers. how do these deportations work? drawing me, how about uh, a polish border guard on his patrol of the border shit of the nice to also for this
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morning around a dozen migraines try it across the border, but we're still looking for 2 of them. but we'll definitely find them soon on this because we're also monitoring to other groups that are currently behind the border fence. so we're on permanent alert complex. you need most of the, the tool to do on the, in the spheres. tense attacks and border guards are increasing at the beginning of june, a polish soldier was stop to death. cause i be or to what extent does the delivery scene regime involved and what is happening here on the board or about sessions we have at the beginning. but somebody to go to school, we shouldn't forget. so that's the only availability and security forces i have access to the border area. so the talk soon is painful. everyone else is there with the express consent and bella, ruth, and authorities to the so somebody, me very, facilitate the transportation of migrants to the border and help them across the border illegally into my old seeds migration movements were artificially created
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and controlled from the very beginning i'm you could also use this could overall nice to the one that supports nance. the people the, about the so far this year. so we registered about $22000.00 attempts to cross the border, illegally put things an increase compared to last year. the most migrants are sent back to deliveries and originally after crossing the border, these push backs violate the charter of fundamental rights, which grants those seeking protection, the right to apply for asylum. the polish government then headed by the right wing p, i s legalize push backs back in 2021. the current liberal government under donald tusk is sticking to the practice everything quiet? yes. there was something this morning wasn't there in the system to me. you guys. all right,
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well let's get some good. here's the polish border post bill over there, the roots here and 1 dollar, but i'm on the small gates for so different technical maintenance extensive are they use for push backs or does that happen somewhere else? in the we use a different term. we talk about repatriation, so the most of the time it will also but the fact the sphere to the person to facto state. so they want to continue to western europe. i emailed me to germany will say it will be returned to belarus. today's the website is to the country, they enter legally involuntarily providing you the return takes place at a location that is safe for the person that most people crossing the border are returned. they know about it and accept it. so the, everything we do is done within the framework of polish law. do you want me to put on my ski? we'll put our, the 8
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organizations have report, a cases in which people ask for asylum in poland. were deported to bella roost. push backs, illegal even under the polish interpretation of the law. as a result, people in the far as trying to avoid border guards, people like sight, the egyptian was be missing for 3 days. and it's about as a bunch of people are very afraid of pushback. so the chip sion was travelling with a group of people. if i had called an ambulance for him, the board of guns would have come immediately back and i use that perhaps the most likely the guns would have taken the activella ruse. oh, the only thing his companions probably promised him that they would send help as soon as they was safe themselves. that's why they lifted within the forest. there was drones as the rest of the sunset on the of the minds. what now walking once around the like,
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parallel to the shore, the, there are still 2 kilometers to go. the price, the and there's a new jeep to. so you discovered many of the missing people were pushed back, didn't you? so much. so attends, is a study perspective i need to, yes, i think executive as of the does again shows on the list. these are the consequences on all these cases have to do with push backs in one way or another that in both of them. because if they were not pushed back, injured people would report to the police board of god voluntarily mentioned this testing, gun shy viewed with a guarantee that everything necessary would be done to check whether they are entitled to the silence. i'm not sure whether they need to be deported. somebody put in a civilized manner into the countries of origin, and they'll come jose and then these people would not end up in bellows in forest
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would replace couple of the you in germany. see what's happening here. so that they think it's fine for people like mohammed to be thrown across the hold up just get an answer for polish activists. cases like these are missing persons at the border or a direct result of the push back policy. to eat, organizations report the push backs or even being carried out from hospitals. what's more migrants are pressure to withdraw their asylum applications and activists of film polish border guards as they appear to deport unconscious people to bellows through those small gates in the border fence. the
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seems like a visual to the still in this does are going to say is there are accusations that push bags by the border guards of the reason why there are so many missing people is over. that's how a saw the and that's the one to be able to go to the, to the one that being. so 1st of all, i would like to emphasize most of polls and over 90 percent of residents in the border communities want to secure border size. some good, i need to move to the and no one who is in contact with the border guards has died or gone missing and you're going to see a patient or she has pictures or something like this happened. it was precisely because this person avoid in contact with the border guards because of their own recklessness of people's boss and business in austin. so it's an issue the most you polish police have confirmed that mohammed sapa was deported back to bella roost on november 29th, 2021. more than 10 months later, pop active as forwarded a video to read code rashid in london. a video recorded by the publish border
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guards. could you show me? yes or video of the the baby i know is my my nephew, this is when it can is when sub a he called me the 1st time he saw the the jacket he said i would for him to to check it with some forensic experts. uh yeah, we did, they did, should we property we know our son is a if you have child a know is your chat. since mom's parents can't get a visa re coat is in charge of the search in europe. the family members are in
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constant contact. that is how are you saw that she are still? are you red couch less the you're the reporter as what hope is this video given you my light? it's made me optimistic. i haven't heard from my son for 10 months. there was no trace that i asked him, i was afraid that he had died in the forest at the border along after 10 months. okay. god gave me hope again, which i'm all of the video from the border fans raised new questions for the family rico. tried in vain to get answers from the polish border guards. the 5th thing they said is we took him to host, show us a proof. they didn't give us. and then after that then they said to have the issue, we spoke with suggestion and busing. and then in a folder money they,
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they reply to out. they are suppose to us, say they told us he's a back and then the end eventually they didn't be nice. ok. he wasn't really pushing back when i ask the border guards, don't give me any information about the man's identity either. they see he had no papers on him. how difficult is it for you to know if this was kind of uncertainty because he don't know what happened to an issue if i believes to i life because of that are 6 of october, 2022 with a 100 or less than 100 person 100 percent this guy was same on the scenes. i didn't know before. i believe he's even further on, but no more my my mind in been advertising. maybe he's there because they pushing
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back to the other side. maybe is it is an investment or maybe even know 100 percent . the lucas shingle regime provides very little information about what is happening in the border region with poland or requests from a how much family via the iraqi embassy and poland also lag nowhere. that's why i am going to warsaw to visit television human rights activists in europe. rooney's kaya the exile works for the interview. human comes down to which collects information on missing persons and belarus. on monday we have name when we have seen the scene, you know, then recess, what type of information recasting means case? and then we'd have information like the message itself, like for example, to weeks and photos without close to the polling is i would flip into what uh this
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is a clip i have received from a family member of a missing person from from the dock. and i think se, is it possible that someone disappears for 10 months without giving any sign interest in bell at all? so we don't have a special intentional sentence for, for the months. so any for them, that of that would be the thing would be kept in uh other than that, it prints out detention center then not allowed to communicate with outside world. in cod disposable, the person couldn't be detained. and it called the visa, no one would know about this a and a in our system that you could visit for. and that would be the day for up to one year whether mohammed saga was ever imprisoned in belarus,
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remains uncertain. the interview, the family continues to wait for news from europe. all hope has pin don't reach out . visits regularly. the parents have not heard from their son since the mysterious video from the border fence. where is mohammed? there are many unanswered questions and there is no clarity my question why he came to on the oil on the fence and he's missing where he was. in 10 months time. what happened was him after the pushing back after the video of the border fence emerged in the fall of 2020 to the family, finding new hope and then is this the same model
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the most i bought these new things back down heavy. we got good about that was about 10 months ago a bit. so we were hoping that he would come back and where they may have close them . is that them just? yeah. so just but he didn't wear any of them around the scanner must always is i'm gonna do x mohammed his dad. i accepted. just tell me he's dead. i want to know lam uh i like to have a lovely. i thought we will not let go of our boy, and as long as we're alive, we'll wait for him to come home before monday. the while i am, that's all we can do to him on the thing that i guys, the rico rashid has been to. poland, 4 times since his nephew disappeared. there is enormous pressure
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on him to finally find out what happened at the polish feller russian border. of the main 15 last time, many of the new d m. waters. on this case, my nephew case had come to your temp it is. and if i want to get with the result of by the, even by the i, i want to get the least all of them is exhausting. not far from the border. recurrent means active isp actress often serves as his proxy with polish authorities. i love that. okay. so it dad. okay. how's everything good. okay, good. how are you? yeah, i'm good. you think you know so, so how parents? well, some of the state and the same, so the, so the able to they the most confident because it's, they towed
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a we couldn't find one song as a, are there any ongoing investigations by publish authorities? seems a bit of gentlemen of the i us, mohammed's family to provide a day and a sample and send it to the polish police at their own expense. the goals deposed on the polar side will unidentified, bodies, and skeletons have been and a still being found show. but so far, the police have not been able to identify any of the bodies using the dna sample from a home its family, into an outage. in the home of the property, to be honest, the search for him is that a dead and drug there is no trace of the boy thoughtful for buckles re coat and po truck to take me near the last new location of mohammad. yeah. show me here. i know, i think when uh, when the last location of mohammad was uh,
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i went to you know, 3 picking them a freaking on it. there was something in the russian site site and he received it from uh, from warehouse. it'd be, yeah, no problem. the smuggler from the people who was here also. oh yeah. he's up or the smuggler and the he took this people to just said, yeah, i got all the piece for the you have to in the price. he said they can't one of them. the fast one from the other side, but another sized and 16 of them was one of them was how much the ink that you said they supposed to to do with the right side, one group with the lift site. and then how much was missing in between the
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what date? it was taken of the december 2050 when. so before the 29th of november they, they probably temporary employees go versus what i yes. yeah. and then after that there you can see days after he came and he's as happened right. the weekend he is very didn't to yes the oh does it make you feel to be like so close this area where waving nephew as has been, well i feel i would he is going to be 10 a 5 because it's very quiet
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a and nobody here and if you don't have fun, you don't know which location you have to go. and then florida is seated with snow is august. if i would him, i will be met. we didn't find any other soft. nobody say this, he's more deep. so if give me a ho, he's new day it receiving, investigate, and reach to the asking people the sides deliver sites. but how likely are they to get answers from belarus? i asked belushi an activist and you're a product sky, or it's not that we really can do a lot in this edition, but it's really the problem that uh, those relatives come to a top almost not so. and then we are sending the request to state institutions.
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most of the cases we are receiving form of the responses we comp receives a sense of different formation. and unfortunately, we can't prove that they're doing the deal search for these uh, who are missing. over the last 3 years, lucian officials have reported 56 deaths on their side of the border. those are the official numbers. i've been talking with people in the forest who's told me that they have seen bodies under that ocean side. is it possible that like more on report to cases and you know, about, of the russian agencies provide. it's need to be understood, the board them area in zillow, so which have festival, the set to kill them, it does own. and it's extremely, it is the big. it's only both the clement, the uh, why allowed to go with that. we definitely know that the quality is not that important about everyone who died according
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to the bad literacy in the end you, at least 60 more deaths were confirmed by the summer of 2024. paula schuman right scripts, see is likely the number of deaths on their side of the border is also higher. not all families report their cases and contact between the missing persons. relatives inactive is often breaks off. before anything concrete is found. the search for the missing egyptian in the northern border region with belarus is also unsuccessful. the active as called a search off for the day. ok this we are sending this map to the brother and the police station and they can add it to the documentation. so let's go to the car. okay.
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it doesn't affect the so can you, it was the was we're looking for a needle in a haystack here. now please. as soon as the information we get is often very vague and emphasized, we own, some of us come into the locations that are sent to us from people's memories uh too for clients because she's math. we often woke hundreds of clutches through the forest to find someone. she knows he's got something, but of the terrain is often very difficult. and even if the person is only a 100 meters away from us, we may not be able to find them at the moment when you have managed a few days after the search operation cartridge, you'll not leaves me a voice message. hi, we continued the search until the moment when the man's family informed us that he had turned up on the battle route and signed up for the mobile homes. yet he
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contacted the family but the weight from a 100 sabbath family continues. together with re coats and field trip. i traveled to the time with some symmetry info who knew to the final resting place for some migrants find dead in poland. there is no name, man. he wasn't dying. no name. yes. but the same time when well, how much was wondering about the point. they maybe were just somewhat on the way i'm gonna be that are so sorry. i don't even in points might be they think they don't source crossing are lots of people that the people on the bottom there is a was funded by us activist is not by police.
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we did on our was to inform families. we haven't the same from that as in kentucky, and that will be, is not africa, beach of care from lots of people. and i know it's not everybody who's missing things and in florida. so i go home, so sorry it's, i know it's thankful for, you know, but it's, it's and, and i think this state who in fact we went to find what you did to the doctor for i understand we found these people body here, the or the, the past so you, i'd say, sorry for them, at least the family they know with the, the child or the they do it or they sent a visa paid to be so fed in small kilometers land between 2 countries. both countries say
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we don't have any information about team and how i don't understand the 3 years after his disappearance. there is still new clarity about mohammed state. this on certain t weighs heavily on the family. re coat is determined to perceive every lead i do everything for my living. i love my nephew. if i know each day or night does it does life insurance the way he gimme 90 that we know is no safe. we blame us. he come to this way, then generate me on mean you to investigate. otherwise, we can do no choice. we do not have to leave the
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