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gets expose, go to lunch with you. find out about all the story info, migraines, reliable news for language, wherever they may be the best since you've got your new life from buttons, a gall crosses into a crowd at a christmas market in germany. state or for sure, the faith toby food have been killed in the eastern city will smack the bug and score once more injured a tar fever, treating it as an attack, and have it as a suspect. the massage, as well as welcome to the program. we begin here in germany with 2 people who have been confirmed dead in many of those injured off to the car, plowed into a child as christmas market. the incident happened in the eastern city of mazda
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book, in fox to me, on how to state the drywall off the car has been arrested. and is suspected of carrying out in the tech authority say he is a doctor from saudi arabia who has been living in germany since 2006 at school straight across the dw, see was q slow, who's at the scene in locked, but he was what more do we know of it so far to find them instead? so is that what we know so far? we do, you have to confirm then off the amend trash to die his call into the christmas market just behind be for the christmas market. if it was just be my b, b, c, that are these ported off the area. and we know that the 2 people are confirmed that the local media is reporting that the numbers are higher, but we don't have a confirmation yet on display
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a numbers. what we do know does more than 60 people have been injured, there's some of them to be injured and a fall from that. so i have to be behind those. also talking to people and trying to pull off the area even set up under prospect. got arrested, sorry, tom and how a quarter to bed handling all the injury if you already mentioned that theatre has been called on and off on some extra other actions that they've said that they're already taking right now. yes. so they are thinking at the moment of actually evacuating people in the city center of mac, the book to the christmas month. it was right in the secret santa and circles and say, i think you evict tracing people who did see it because they found a back in the suspect cars where they are checking at the moment if they were explosive in the oh no, we do not have any further information, that's what we'll update later on as soon as we do have anything. so,
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cities of even clothing all set at the area, there are hundreds of fire fights this underground and also the 1st i responded so they are trying to evacuate. you ever better? i'm trying to health insurance, so more than 60 people has been on the hospital via volume. so as you mentioned it's, they are evacuating the area, but they have been statement saying that they believe this was a loan attacker. they don't believe that. what are the people involved? what more have the authority shed about who this person, the suspect was it, sir, for what we know. as he mentioned before, is that we do have a man who is right, 50 years of age as aspect as being a rest it right off to be attacked. he was a doctor from saudi arabia and we don't have any information so,
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so if you can find a windows connections to any, implement sharra groups. so anything related to it? so he was not a 9 suspect. and that's what we're next upon in the background of why he said this is true. and i thank you so much for that update and we keep coming back to you for more dw, and see what's caseload in not to book the now earlier the indeed administer for saxony on how described water tardies know about the suspected for patricia tito. from what we know now, the suspect is 50 years old and comes from saudi arabia. he initially traveled to germany in 2006 he's on a permanent residents permit. and he is a doctor from band budge. from what we know, he was acting alone. that was the,
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into the surplus tax me on how to know we can cross over to hon sac option the invalid and he's an expert on terrorism. welcome to dw hands. got to see you again . it seems the suspect was a 50 year old doctor from saudi arabia who has lived in germany for almost 20 years . what do you make of that profile? i mean, 7 aspects of these attack uh, very unusual. so 1st of all, the fact that it is possible to drive with the car on to the christmas marketing germany in 2024 is unusual because since december 2016 and the horrible attack on the christmas market impelling this is a very known scenario. and usually christmas markets are quite effectively cordoned or full or traffic, including personal cups. the 2nd really is the age and the nationality to a certain extent of the perpetrator. so we did see in the last 24 months that
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produced actually getting younger up to 15 years old. people have been interested. and usually the last time, a larger number of soldiers was involved in a terrorist attack was at 911 in 2001 where a team of the perpetrators were from saudi arabia. so they are very strange aspects to this whole scenario. and it's really hard to say what precisely, what's going on. other aspect which has emerged is that police have to work broadcasts to in the yard that the suspect and explosives are. why wasn't because would that indicate something of a broader scale was planned we will have to wait for confirmation of that, but of course this good point to 2 things. so number one, of course, with all the tragedy and the horrible injuries and the unfortunately to casualties . this may actually be the less large scenario if you had been able to
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designate concurrently with being on the christmas market with his car and explosive device, we would have potentially seen it much higher casualty. but it also good point to a might a support network, 50 or doctors don't usually build explosive devices if there is conformation. that there was wondering because but why does support network you mentioned is another question, right? because so far the policy is i've said they believe this what the lone wolf attack or they are not looking for any other suspects. do you think that move or that announcement just be mature? i think the announcement is maybe giving the wrong impression. obviously at that time in the car, there was only this one individual and this was really important to highlight that there is not a panic after these attack, that they may be of that perpetrators in the town. what they are doing right now.
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and searches in the hometown of the perpetrator, and they told him the witnesses, they talking to people who know him at the moment. is there a vital support network? yes or no? obviously everything is possible to do it by yourself. so you can rent a car by yourself, you can buy gas canisters by yourself. you can build a explosive device by yourself. but all these things in combination, at least keep the possibility that there may be a support network, wasn't a mark to work when the car was plowing through the christmas market, but help the man to prepare. and that's really important to determine, right? right. and when you mentioned support networks, we have already established that this fos spect has been in germany for almost 20 years. is that any indication of what that might have them and similar cases like this? as you've mentioned, that this kind of stands out amongst the profile of recent attackers we have seen or have there been other instances of people of, of a similar profile. and i could only stand out as far as the agents concern. in fact,
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people radicalized even after being in germany for a long time or being german, the scene very consistently. also since 2014 were driving, born and raised in germany, have traveled to syria to join ice in. so it's obviously possible to be for people to radicalize. we've lived in germany for a very long time and then are ready to attack. we see since october 2023, but also as part of provide a indication of these terran networks no longer being really under sustained military pressure. and neither enough ground is done nor in africa, nor really in the middle east. indeed, a much more broader operational capability off international power networks to actually again conduct the tax in lot of the tax in europe and we see the attacks in most kyle receive the attacks in mind. i'm installing and i've seen other
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attacks in other european country. so we have a sustained effort you know, of these groups to encourage individuals to conduct attacks to help hasn't the case with a group of use that planned to bomb the, to the concert in getting out to help them online. but also to just simply inspire individuals to do attacks like you've seen in zoning. right. but it does seem that the radically vision aspect has not been confirmed. the policies have not used the woods, tentative attacks yet. all that other possible motivations that you've seen in attacks like this that may not be a terrorist attack? well, i mean, the authorities in german talk about an unlock, an honest lock is not a, let's say, a guy, a crazy guy driving a call. that's not an honest lot um, so i would say at least as far as the formulations of the terminal parties is
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concerned, they are actually looking into a terrorism scenario here. now the indication is that the federal prosecute of germany asked announced by the minister president of sex on that sex. and that is taking up the investigations and the federal prosecutor only in these cases, takes up the investigation these days a at least hints to what stairs. i do want a sofa back to what you mentioned about the attack here in berlin that a christmas market. this must be existing security measures to prevent such attacks, right. what kind of measures are there that was implemented off to that attack? and why do you think they failed the locals? uh yes, they are and really good that if i tried lots attacked on the christmas marketing putting on the price i plots, which is gonna be busy road in bowling, was conducted by a truck blowing a truck attack in france in nice at the past the day in july, 14th of july,
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2016 really changed things. so there were physical barriers around the christmas market, impactable, but there must have been a gap allowed that tall to get through other roads, even seen by journalist on the scene tonight, other roads to the christmas box were blocked off. but that must have been a gap. the question is, why was there a gap? what's the reason for it was this something that no one had seen? but also of course, you have much higher presence of police, both in uniform and in civilian clothes. at christmas markets you have cameras installed. so there is a much higher level of security because it was known for many years already. and yet the new cause for attacks and christmas markets both biased. i'll try it out as well as the slot mc state. this. yeah. that christmas markets or any other lots, gavin means our targets for to. so they, i usually quite route protected in germany. that's mixed this scenario. so we,
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and this is a, you know, it's really hard to prevent something like sorting where a guy simply buys a nice, give a supermarket and then nice down people. that's very tough to me. right. but this the car on the christmas market veteran simply not happening. terrorism expert, han, yeah. cushion. lo, thank you so much walking us to that. thank you. and germans also will show us, has made his 1st public remarks on the events in mazda, but he wrote on the x, the reports from octave agrees, the worst fios, my thoughts are with the victims and their families, the facts and the on husband me a says he expect shows to visit the city on saturday. dw correspondence, simon young joins us now. so i'm on those comments from adult flow shows. it's just 2 months before the election filled and show me. what do you think this incident
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means for the government and for sure. what clearly, they certificate taxis a below if it is an attack and it looks at least plausible. it looks very likely that this was a deliberate incident. and so he blog for the jim and state for the whole country. politicians have been coming out to saying as much this evening in various different ways. and i think clearly off to the shock of settled, the government will need to sort of come up with a, a meaningful response in the coming days. and i think the questions you've already been talking about will play a key role there in the security aspect. how could this have happened off to the previous attacks, particularly the 2016 at berlin attack or the christmas market, but all the incidents as well. we know these kinds of events was seen as targets at security, had been in hans. why didn't it work? and then if this turns out to be an islamist attack,
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that will have cost of fuel the debate that's already going on about how to account of that product. that's right. in particular that's probably dw correspondence, simon young, thank you so much. i and that's all we have to involve a lot more updates for your thoughts. goodbye the .

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