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i'm looking for my nephew. he read the separated. we don't know what is going on. the border between pulling them feller roost over the last 3 years. thousands of people have tried to reach the e u here, despite the military presence on board or fence again and again, the traces of some of these migrants are lost in the primeval forest. so for the last year. okay, let's go polish volunteers, search for clues about these people's whereabouts. people disappear and die. they pushed back and forth at the border. their relatives lived with uncertainty the numbers. i'm afraid i'll never see him again. the.
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the my name is pedro mccallski. i'm a german polish journalist. i'm here in london to meet with ray college, rashid fled northern iraq for britain more than 20 years ago. 3 years ago his nephew mohammed sapa also decided to leave a rack. he too, wanted to come to europe and got your message. which of these it's one we don't know. leasing is so hot and just kind of not ignoring re coat, lives alone in a one bedroom apartment in east london. he is not a british citizen, and long works is
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a truck driver. these days he spends most of his time searching for mohammed. this guy is a must have a, he's my nephew. these one, me and him this one, the 2000 and penny, when i was about quitting this time, you get to visa, comfortable those as wash. uh, as was then november 2020. when these, when, when you went to men sick or wow. so not a lot of no the the, the people. 5 didn't know where the com i or an evening full of hope for the day and 22. you read mohammed. he informed his uncle in london about his every move. when did you hear from your left over the
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last time, april to me 2 days before the 29th of november, 2021 to 3 days before the missing days voice which is next on december 1st 2021 mohammed central for the border. the humanitarian situation there had continued to worse than does it the, the doing this in videos on the board?
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the visit was why he was stuck in was no man's land. yeah. and photo score and but the rest yeah. right. to 2000 people come to more and what they believe was a pleasure to be able to open the gate for them. and then the side pulled on the dim. we told him go back but the other side below. oh no, they didn't. they came back. so they was stuck in the middle, but the a could do nothing. i didn't know so people was missing me ask my sister and that was all in my nephew.
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i afterall with the scale mohammed disappeared on december 2nd 2021. your abilities began systematically smuggling people to the border. in response pulling built a 185 kilometer long border fence. but even in 2024 migrants are trying to enter the u using russian or bell or russian visas. route least through this one p b i la forest in northeastern poland. the, in the spring of 2024, a local police aid organizations find itself once again receiving a growing number of emergency calls from the forest. the group has been active since the beginning of the migrant crisis here some way they are looking for missing people for people who will be wondering around for days,
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often without food soaking, wet and be hydrated in constant fear of being discovered by polish border guards and sent back to belarus, i accompany him out, a huge co realtor, and 17 year old to usually back. they proceed to call them pumps hotline and are on their way to help a group of if you pins, they want to find them before the board of guards to keep working towards the clearing. i see your head to the left, the to we are looking for a moment through the settings. we will give you more foods and some shows and libby,
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but the for the migrants, the clothes and food. but they also want to apply for asylum in poland because this could at least in theory, keep them from being immediately deported back to dollars. as an e u member state pulling this by when to consider all asylum applications. this is yeah, just after that it's for everyone. this the commission is about the procedures and so that's not protection golden along so you don't, don't move okay. just for your protection to the the group is letters of the forest and liter handed over to the border guards who must officially register their applications. the ethiopians were stuck in the border region for 3 weeks. one of them are accountants. what they saw on the forest,
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on my way here, i saw some data bodies like tubal data bodies in the jungle. i saw in the polish forest a skeleton, a human cycle of time. and also on the 11th floor, the can i so we will do is find we found you that says something about this issue, hon us, the lovely, the date for the will be they did do a body with the 5th communities estimates for the volunteers. if i were to search for the body, says 2021, the remains of at least 40 people have been assigned on the polar side of the border. more than 340 people being reported missing and their own
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10 percent of those are still being actively searched for the one of them is mohammed saba, the is journey began in 2021 in airfield capital. the curtis and region sent me a tournaments region in northern erac, a despite political stability, the region struggles with corruption and an unemployment rate of nearly 40 percent . many young people leave their homes to try to reach you at to legally. the mohammad grew up in this neighborhood with his parents and siblings. he was 22 when he left for belarus. at the time, the overland route to unit was considered less dangerous than crossing the mediterranean. the little i had an outside take home and
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has wanted to go abroad since he was 15. us the many father sally. all the young people here talk about immigrating with guns, who i'm calling about when you're as young as mohammed and everyone around you is constantly talking about nothing else. we're leaving the country we start takes hold of you and you can't get rid of it. i can't understand why they want to live in a foreign country. i don't think it's worth it. madam . without him, my house feels empty. of the,
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the so he told us there was nothing for him to do here and we should be worked in a fruits store and got very little money for it to the system. how much so no future here no prospect. yesterday it was hard for him because they'll go submit it to the check in with beans. i left was his favorite food fast through the state because to find the outer was a killer and couldn't do this is a picture from the day we said good bye to him by god. when he left my heart was restless. combine in us on the smugglers are not good people, we can't trust them or not. i blamed myself a lot to night. i should have never allowed him to leave us a minute, but i didn't realize how dangerous his journey would be. but on this end of this, every day saw her signing sofia,
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rashid hope for news from europe. he refused to give up hope that their son is still alive. but despite an intensive search, that our new definite leads on the way to buy some homage sapa. i am back on the road with volunteers from pop, the eat organization. witnessing their search for missing persons on the pollution pollution border, the desktops. we often received information that someone has not contacted their relatives and needs help memorization of the product. we mustn't ignore any reports. this is a matter of life and death to commercial cause you're not below come as you keep which i'm po shuts off on. i've received support from slovakia and activists. we are looking for a missing egyptian man who disappeared without a trace here in northeastern poland 3 days ago. so
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he's between 3540 or salt, who throws up in blue. the pharmacy caused him side. so we'll go show child size. we kind of find the body of someone fearless, not to go to with us, but the sight, even when we've been next to the about the, the phone or some documents that don't touch those types of ad working with stock. that's 10 steps. one of each other and go into a straight line. okay. okay. okay. i'd say pretty high school today. we've got new information from his brother them. unfortunately, we know that she was mistreated by the better routines, and he was chronically ill. luckily he had no medication for that. we're afraid
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that we might be too late when you called us at the contact. we know that the family hasn't heard from him for a while, and it was, or that's why we filed a missing persons report with the police again. and it's already been looking for him. hopefully by now, of the however foolish authorities, hardly ever carrier to lindsey and systematic search for missing persons. it is local volunteers who pick up the slack. why are you doing this here? in the show because the state is doing too little because the author already is the doing next to nothing before and none of the beach you monetary and organizations are active here, right in front of the u. n. h, the not the you end up with a go on we, the inhabitants of philosophy i have seen left a line from the very beginning of the clean up or something just concerned with the short we
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managed to find a few people alive. sometimes someone you're looking for recently discovered dr. wild bead in a billers in prison or sometimes somewhere in gemini, but many searches and with no results. that's the case with mohammed sub well i'm, it is one of those missing migrant still being searched for years after his disappearance . his uncle recount rashid in london is in close contact. productive as your truck child on these one pita i he's malibu, then they def i told the police and then he, they signed me say if any news you're kind of going back to where like find me, you know, i never forget that because they done the thing for us with the interest help re co travel to poland in july 2022 to search for traces of his nephew
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9 days or was walden tries will avery, when we go to the board, the date is league did when these guys are missing was the fluid is that and then that time i last called photo, then maybe he's died on his journey rico did receive one important piece of information, feeling the police station to make a statement of police told me we are, is this guy when they will, they push him a few days before is missing. i understand these guy. he came to illegal, but why you didn't put it back to you. it is always, you know, county because these guy, nothing to do was the letters mohammed saba was the portrait to billers. how do these deportations work?
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drawing me, how about a polish border guard on his patrol of the border? shanetta and both of get the nice to also for this morning around a dozen migraines try it across the border, but we're still looking for 2 of them. but we'll definitely find them soon on this because we're also monitoring to other groups that are currently behind the board or fence. so we're on permanent alerts, complex you need most of the, the tool to do on the atmosphere is tends attacks on border guards are increasing at the beginning of june of color soldier was stopped to death cause i be or to what extent is the delivery scene regime involved and what is happening here on the border adults, i should say that they say that i need somebody to go to school. we shouldn't forget. so that's the only about the routing and security forces i have access to the border area. so the talk soon explained to everyone else is there with the express concerns about the routing and authorities to the so somebody, me very, facilitate the transportation of migrants to the border and help them across the
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border. illegally. easy, my old excuse, migration movements were artificially created and controlled from the very beginning. i'm. you could also use this could overall nice to have on a sports fan. the people the about the so far this year. so we registered about $22000.00 attempts to across the border illegally providing an increase compared to last year, the most migrants are sent back to billers. and originally after crossing the border, these push backs violate the charter of fundamental rights which grants those seeking protection. the right to apply for asylum. the polish government, then headed by the right wing p, i. s legalize push backs back in 2021. the current liberal government under donald tusk is sticking to the practice. everything quiet? yes. there was something this morning wasn't there in the system to me. you guys?
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all right. okay, so i'm going to, here's the polish border post bill over there at the roots here in $1.00, but i'm on the small gates for so different technical maintenance extensive are they use for push backs or does that happen somewhere else in the we use a different term we talk about repatriation. so the most of the time it will also but the fact the sphere to the person to fact stay. so they want to continue to western europe. i emailed me to germany will say it will be returned to by the wrist. so is the website is to the country they enter legally, involuntarily providing you the return takes place at a location that is safe for the person that most people across the board or are returned. they know about it and accept it. so the, everything we do is done within the framework of polish law. do you want me to put on my ski? we'll put our or the
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8 organizations have report, a cases in which people ask for asylum in poland were deported to belarus. push backs, illegal even under the polish interpretation of the law. as a result, people in the far as trying to avoid border guards, people like sight, the egyptian was be missing for 3 days. and it's about as a bunch of people are very afraid of push backs. uh so the chip sion was travelling with a group to see if they had called an ambulance for him. the board of guns would have come immediately back. i use that perhaps the most likely the guns would have taken the activella ruse. oh, the only thing his companions probably promised him that they would send help as soon as they was safe themselves. that's why they lifted within the forest that was wrong. just opposite the rest of funds on the
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of the minds. what now walking once around the like, parallel to the show, the doctor there are still 2 kilometers to go to place the, there's a new jeep to so you discovered many of the missing people were pushed back. didn't do so much. so at the end is a study perspective i need to, yes, i think executive as of the does again shows on the list. these are the consequences on all these cases have to do with push backs in one way or another that in both of them. but if they were not pushed back, injured people would report to the police board of god voluntarily. should this testing been tonight, reviewed with a guarantee that everything necessary would be done to check whether they are entitled to a silence. i'm not sure whether they need to be deported so we can put it in
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a civilized manner into the countries of origin. the kindly holds. and then these people would not end up in salaries in forest and it would replace couple of the you in germany. see what's happening here to the day. think it's fine for people like mohammed to be thrown across the hold up. just get an answer for polish activists. cases like these are missing persons at the border or a direct result of the push back policy. to eat, organizations report the push backs or even being carried out from hospitals. what's more migrants are pressure to withdraw the asylum applications pop active as of film polish. border guards, as they appear to deport unconscious people to bellows through those small gates in the border fence. the
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seems like a visual to the still in this does are going to say is there are accusations that push bags by the border guards of the reason why there are so many missing people is over. that's how a saw the and that's the one to be able to go to the, to the one that being. so 1st of all, i would like to emphasize most of polls and over 90 percent of residents in the border communities want to secure border size. some good, i need to move to the and no one who is in contact with the border guards has died or gone missing. and you're going to see what the issue should be a success or something like this happened. it was precisely because this person avoid in contact with the border guards because of their own recklessness levels, boston business university. so it's an issue. the most you polish police have confirmed that mohammed sapa was deported. back to bella roost on november 29th, 2021. more than 10 months later,
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pop active as forwarded a video to read code rashid in london. a video recorded by the publish border guards. could you show me yes or video? the the baby i know is my, my nephew, this is when it can is when sub a he called me the 1st time he saw the the jacket he said i would for him to to check it with some forensic experts. uh yeah, we did. they did, should we property we know our son is a if you have child a know is your chat. since mom's parents can't get
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a visa re coat is in charge of the search in europe. the family members are in constant contact. that is how are you saw that she? how are you? read couch less. you're the reporter as what hope is this video given you? my light? it's made me optimistic. so i haven't heard from my son for 10 months. there was no trace that i asked him, i was afraid that he had died in the forest at the border. long after 10 months. kate, god gave me hope again, which was the video from the border fence raised new questions for the family. rico tried in vain to get answers from the polish border guards. the 5th thing they said is we took him to host, show us a proof. they didn't give us. and then after that then they said to have the
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issue, we spoke with suggestion investing and then in a folder money they, they reply to out they have this possible us say they told us he's a back and then the end eventually they didn't be nice. ok, he wasn't really pushing back when i ask the border guards, don't give me any information about the man's identity either. they see he had no papers on him. how difficult is it for you to know if this was kind of uncertainty because they don't know what happened to an issue if i believes to life because of that 6 of october, 2022 with a 100 percent 100 person 100 percent. this guy was same own defense. i didn't know before. i believe he's even further on, but no more my my mind in,
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in been advertising. maybe he's there because they pushing back to the other side. maybe. is it, is it in van out maybe but no 100 percent deluca shingle regime provides very little information about what is happening in the border region with poland or request from a home. it's finally via the iraqi embassy in poland, also lead nowhere. that's why i'm going to warsaw to visit lucian, human rights activists in europe. run these kaya the exile. works for the interview . human comes down to which collects information on missing persons and belarus. on monday we have name when we had assumed the scene, you know, then we have what type of information we can meet you case. and then we'd have information like the message itself, like for example, 2 weeks and photos with
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a close to the bowling is i would flip into what uh this is a clip i have received from a family member of the missing person from from the dock. and i think so, is it possible that someone disappears for 10 months without giving any sign and $10.00 in bill at all? so we don't have a special detention center for 4 months. so any 4 and that of that would be the thing would be kept in uh, within that a printout detention center then not allowed to communicate with outside the world . in cod disposable, the person couldn't be detained. the answer, it's called these. it's no one would know about this uh and the in our system that you could visit for and that would be the day for up to one year. whether mohammed
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sabah was ever imprisoned in belarus, remains on searching the interview. the family continues to wait for news from europe. all hope has pin don't reach out. the visits regularly. the parents have not heard from their son since the mysterious video from the border fence. where is mohammed? there are many unanswered questions and there is no clarity. my question why he came to on the oil on the fence and he's missing where he was in 10 months time. what happened was him after the pushing back after the video of the border fence emerged in the fall of 2020 to the family,
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finding new hope and then is this the same month the month. but i bought these new things back down at b o. b, that's good, but that was about 10 months ago a bit. so we were hoping that he would come back and where they move close them is that them just? yeah. so just but he didn't wear any of them around the scanner. oh he does. i'm going to do extra home that his dad i accepted. just tell me he's dead . i want to know. i'm a, i was to blah, blah, i'm a i thought we will not let go of our boy. i mean, as long as we're aligned, we'll wait for him to come home before monday of the well, i am that's all we can do to him on the thing that i guys, the
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rico rashid has been to poland 4 times since his nephew disappeared. there was a norm, this pressure on him to finally find out what happened at the polish television border of the main 15 last time. many of the new d m. waters. on this case, my nephew case had come to your temp it is. and if i want to get with the results or by the even by the i, i want to get the least all of them is exhausting. not far from the border. recurrent means active isp actress often serves as his proxy with polish authorities. i love that. okay, so it, dad. okay. how's everything good? okay, good. how are you? yeah, i'm good. you think you know so, so how parents? well some of the state and the same. so the able to,
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they the last call for them because it's, they towed a we couldn't find one the song essay. are there any ongoing investigations by publish authorities? she owns a bit of normal. her mother. i asked mohammed's family to provide a d, n a sample and send it to the polish police at their own expense, because the post on the polar side will unidentified bodies and skeletons have been and a still being found, shotwell, but so far the police have not been able to identify any of the bodies using the dna sample from a home its family, into an outage in the home of the, of the, to be honest, the search for him is that a dead end to all. there is no trace of the boy shot for rico and field trip. take me near the last new location of mohammad. yeah. show me here. no, i think we have uh the last location of mohammed to us.
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uh 912. 03. picking them a freaking on that there's something in the russian site site if he received it from, from warehouse, it'd be, yeah, no problem. the smuggler from the people who was here also. oh yeah, he's up or the smuggler and the he took this people to said, yeah, i got all of the piece for that. you have to in the price. you said the kind one of them, the fast one from the other side. but other sites, and 16 of them were, one of them was how much the ink that you said they supposed to, to go to with an ice hydro group with
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a lift site and then how much was missing in between them? the what date it was taken of uh december 2000 infinity with so uh before the 29th of november they they probably temporary employees versus what i yes. yeah. and then after that or you can 2 days after he came and he's is happening right. the windshield, he is very dangerous. yeah. the oh, does it make you feel to be like so close in this area where your nephew as has
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been well, i feel evaluated. he is going to be 10, a 5 and because it's very quiet area and nobody here. and if you don't have phone, you don't know which location you have to go. and then fluid is seated with snow is oh goose. evaluate him. i will be met. we didn't find any of these tools. nobody say this, he's more deep. so it's give me a whole he's new diet. we seem to investigate and reach to the asking people the sides. we never sight but how likely are they to get answers from belarus? i asked beller, we see an activist in europe run at sky a. it's not that we really can do a lot in this edition, but it's really the problem that those relatives come to a topic almost not so. and then we are sending the request to state institutions.
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in most of the cases we are receiving formally responses. we confidence use a sense of different formation. and unfortunately, we can prove that then doing the deal search for these uh for me since over the last 3 years that lucian officials have reported 56 tests on their side of the border. those are the official numbers. i've been talking with people in the forest who told me that they have seen bodies under the russian side. is it possible that is like more on report cases and you know about, of the russian agencies provide. it's need to be understood, the board them area in zillow, so we can test all these set to kill them. it does own, and it's extremely it is that it's only both the clement, the uh, why allowed to go with that. we definitely know that both the committee is not that
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important about everyone who died according to the bad literacy. in the end you at least 60 more deaths were confirmed by the summer of 2024 polish human rights groups. see, is likely the number of deaths on their side of the border is also higher. not all families report their cases and contact between the missing persons relatives inactive is often breaks off before anything concrete is find the search for the missing egyptian in the northern border region with belarus is also unsuccessful. the active as called a search off for the day. ok. this we are sending this month to the brother and the police station. and they can add
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it to the documentation. so let's go to the car. okay. it doesn't have to have that the so can you, it was the was we're looking for a needle in a haystack here and then okay, so that's external. just the information we get is often very vague and emphasized . we own some of this from and see the locations that have sent to us from people's memories. uh too. so clients are, she's mad. we often woke hundreds of kilometers through the for us to find someone . she knows he's got us the symptom part of the terrain. is often very difficult and even if the person is only a 100 meters away from us, we may not be able to find them at all. no more. i'm going to have managed a few days after the search operation. gotcha. and that leaves me a voice message. hi, we continued the search until the moment when the man's family informed us that he
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had turned up on the battle route and signed up for the mobile homes. yet, he contacted the family but the weight from a how much sabbath family continues together with re codes and field trip. i travel to the time was i'm symmetry. info who needs to be the final resting place for some migrant spine, dad and poland. there is no name man is she wasn't dying? no name. yes, but the same time when well, how much was about the point? they maybe were just somewhat on the way i'm gonna be that are so sorry. i don't even in points might be they think they don't source crossing lots of people who are the people on the bottom there is, was founded by us activities not by police. we did
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on our walk to inform the families we have the same from that as in can key and double vision, not africa, beach of care from lots of people. and i know it's not everybody who's missing motorcycle home, so sorry, it's, i know it's thankful for, you know, but it's, it's and, and i think this state who in fact we want to find what to do to up the do to also for i understand we found these people, body he or the or the, the past so you, i facility for them, at least the family. they know with the, the child or the they do it though they send a visa pay it
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to be so fed, in small kilowatt. there's a line between 2 countries. both countries say, we don't have any information about team and how i don't understand the 3 years after his disappearance. there is still new clarity about mohammed state this on search and t weighs heavily on the family. rico is determined to pursue every lead i do everything for my nephew. i love my nephew. if i knew each day night, does it, does i choose the way he gave me? 90 that we know is no safe. we blame us. he come to this way. then generate a on you need to investigate otherwise use the kind of no choice.
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