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but today that laughter is where he's been. donald trump is a gun lane claims to the arctic island and beyond. and he hasn't rules out military action. so is this just from trying to be provocative, or does the world actually need to take this seriously? i'm going to richardson in berlin. you are watching the day the what we need when for national security check, what do you mean? it's not a percentage. i'm talking about protecting the free world for the soul for any t. also states has to be respected. the principle of and viability of food is applies to every country. the panama canal was built for a military. so it, any of our canals? sovereignty is not negotiable and it's appropriate. it's appropriate.
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also a head on the day, the man leading the race to be germany's next chancellor. the conservative feverish merits gets his campaign under way and his leadership plans come with a warning about trumps. the 2nd term we must expect to see disruptive political decisions in the us and the week of the next. when donald trump becomes president, trump, you've all seen and heard examples of this in recent days. to our viewers on pdf and around the world. welcome to the show. we begin with us president elect donald trump, now less than 2 weeks away from his and on duration, but already causing concern among america's allies. during his latest press conference in florida, he talked about expanding us territory in a way that would fundamentally redraw the map of the western hemisphere. so he said he wanted to rename the gulf of mexico as the gulf of america. you once again talked about reclaiming the panama canal and then the suggestions of making canada
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the 51st us states and getting denmark to hand over greenland. we should say trump 1st floated the idea of buying the arctic island back in 2019 and during his 1st term it came to nothing then but is more at play this time round more soon after this reports greenland, the world's largest island home to just 57000 people, it lies between the atlantic and arctic oceans, and it belongs to denmark. it's residents, all you citizens. but donald trump, things it should be part of the us. people really don't even know if denmark has any legal rights to it, but if they do, they should give it up because we need it for national security. that's for the free world. i'm talking about protecting the very well use comments, both to switch reaction from denmark. you look at the you see in the eyes of the
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danish government funded greenland is for the greenland. does people from fastpitch? it is a proud people, a language and culture that is the road some and as stated before by the chem and if the greenland economy, which is green and is not for sale. also on the agenda for trump, the panama canal, a key trade volts away for ships traveling between the atlantic and pacific oceans . it was largely built by the us in the early 20th century. but panama took over full control of the canal in 1999. the press conference, trump refused to ru allowance, using military force to get it back. can you can you tell me what, what is the stress? yeah, i can assure you you're, you're talking about panama in greenland. now i can assure you on either of those 2
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. but i can say there's, we need them for economic security. the panama canal was built for a military here to there was a robust response from panama or officials. last, so it any? yeah, the sovereignty, if i can, i is non negotiable, as it is part of the history of struggle and, and in the best of all the chief months in a way to see. trump also has canada in his sites, saying he would use economic force to try to bring a balance and onyx ation. canadian prime minister justin truth though, tweeted in response that isn't, says no goals. china seen how the candidate will become parts of the united states . i have to say, donald trump certainly isn't making any friends with his foreign policy agenda was a mess. and in 2 weeks time, the world will begin to find out how his words will translate into action as he returns to the white's house for his 2nd term. about approaching reality of
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trumps. the 2nd term is forcing american allies here in europe to reevaluate the relationship and how to keep it in good standing today. denmark's foreign minister tried to lower the heat by saying he was open to dialogue on arctic cooperation. yeah, i don't know if he would save you if i don't think that we are in a foreign policy crisis. yeah, i see a president who is on his way into the white house who has a heart and focus on the optic. and i can understand that he has that he's the we also have that from the dining side. and we also have that with the nighttime, with the whole discussion about the how i know it takes up much more time today than it did years ago into awful, or just bought in france and germany. there's open concern about donald trump's apparent threat to the use sovereignty. the french foreign ministers on to a borrow said the you have to defend itself better against quote attacks on it's solver and borders. and this was the reaction from the german chancellor. all schultz in mind, just please, in my discussions with the european partners,
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a certain in comprehension has become clear when it comes to current statements from the united states. itself with the principal loving viable board is applies to every country, regardless of whether it's to the east or west of is almost every country must abide by this principle regardless of whether it's a small country or powerful state. so to unpack all of that, i would like to welcome christine by xena, the managing director of the gm's g o strategy north program for the focus on us and architect defense and security. she's joining us today from washington d. c. welcome. i'd like to start by asking you for your reaction to these comments . how seriously do you think from would pursue these threats? if at all or the fact that we are hearing about trumps interest in greenland and concern over arctic security again in advance of and coming in for
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a 2nd time indicates that his 1st terms interest in purchasing greenland wasn't a passing fad. it wasn't just a glimmer, in fact, trumpf seems to have an interest in particular, in the architect and in the high north. a lot of that seems to make sense when you look at the way that russia has been increasing investments that has own architect and defenses. despite the war, russia has been making sure that it's nuclear fleets and it's arctic capabilities are stronger. it is cooperating more with china getting more over it to china for development in the arctic. these are the big concerns for the united states, which has a architect, country in and of itself. the problem is, of course, is the rhetoric and the front should be perfectly reasonable for the united states to work with the other non russian nato allies, to have deeper corporation capabilities development. the development of the central resources and raw materials and critical materials that are in greenland for the
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benefit of the democracies that are all partners. and how lies the approach so of threatening to having to purchase or to try to coerce denmark into giving over territory. these pressure that is put on on mexico and on panama is very much contrary to the position and the values that the u. s. has taken in the past. the us has had a very strong, attractive force. the us has respected and stood up for small countries, for people, for their rights and for sovereignty and self determination. and that is not what we're hearing in the approach that trump is taking, and to not rule out military force for these objectives. so when it comes to nato allies, it is especially remarkable. so again, there is a conflict between legitimate concerns that could be addressed very productively collaboratively. and a unilateral and intimidation based approach that trumps you can take note is that
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parents threats of military force that has alarm bells bringing in the you especially what would happen if the us were to attack greenland and, and just to give us a bit more context how much of a geostrategic vulnerability is the greenland for the united states? so we're looking here at long term strategic trends. there is no imminent threat to the united states coming from or the agreement. when you think about greenland agreement, it's important because of where it is between uh, between north america and europe and the passage way between greenland and oh, here's the map is a great illustration there. so there's the g i u k. gap which you talk about in the, in the foreign policy terms of greenland, iceland, u. k, norway. the gap between these countries in the north atlantic is also the way that
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russia is able to get it's northern fleet gets nuclear submarines down from the cola peninsula and into the atlantic. russia considers this to be its major, strategic need enabled or ability. if that is closed off, and also in case of a larger conflict with russia for the north americans to reinforce europe, they would need to be transmitted across this gap across the atlantic. so they need to be able to control the c way or to have access to it, or to prevent pressure from cutting it off. has been a preoccupation since world war 2. and before this is a very important long term strategic need. but that is different from an imminent national security concern. what would make sense for the us is to build upon its existing basis which are in the north agreement already in to develop that those capabilities further, let alone actually build icebreakers and other capabilities that the us needs
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already in order to be stronger in the architect but that is a very different conversation than the one that is currently being had about purchasing your cursing and to hand over territory. because the us as a new position at the moment to even fully access or to assist and the defense of these high north and arctic territories. indeed it seems that's very well, that's not the direction that the conversation is currently going. i'm curious, greenland and denmark leaders have both reiterated that greenland is not for sale. how much of a se, does the greenland have in this? well, greenland is a part of the kingdom of denmark, but it has its own uh, self governance and its on parliament. and as we saw right now, when the, the, the danish officials are speaking of the prime minister is speaking about greenland, the voices of the say of green landers and their features care about this is the difference. the from when the last time the us offered to purchase
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a greenland before truck came in right after world war 2, president truman offered and created denmark, the ability to, to sell a greenland to the united states, and that was rejected. back in that day, it was still a little colonial era across europe, and that is really not the world we live in today. today. the west, in particular, advocates for the rights of a green landers as any other people in their states, to be solver and to have a say in the direction that their country's take. it is not for, for a certain bigger countries to car boss and partaken, give away territories of other people. it comes down to the individual themselves. and when we talk about greenland, there is a historic motor ability for uh, for indigenous groups and across the world in the way that they have been pushed and coerced in the past. so because this conversation of agreement is not just
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about about denmark itself, but it already fits into a slightly more complicated dynamic and, and denmark is getting so much voice to the green lenders themselves. i think it is important to understand that even the rhetoric of trade and the read the language of coersion fits into a very unwelcome historical rhetoric that harks back to a colonial era. it is incredibly unwelcome, globally, but also contrary to the interest of the united states and europe, the global south, in particular, as we think about more of this global competition between north america and europe and china, russia. the colonial past that your has had, has been a big problem and that we should not for you. again. thank you so much for providing all that context for us. that is christine, bursting from the german marshal fund.
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now here in germany, political parties are launching their campaigns for a general election due on february 23rd conservative cd you party. candidate features match seeing here in the middle is tipped to be the next chancellor of germany. as the conservatives look set to win the largest share of the vote in their promising to move germany to the right on social and economic policies, merits himself is also a warrant that europe needs to be prepared for what he called the disruptive politics of donald trump. he's warranted batch, both the germany and europe needs to be prepared for that 2nd term. last but not least, the shop. i know, since i took a detailed look at china and the us and i call on all of us, not just germany, but the entire european union to ensure that the e u now really grows up and we become capable of taking action. does the hunting cease we have and we must expect to see disruptive political decisions in the us and the week off the next. when donald trump becomes president, trump,
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you've all seen and heard examples of this in recent days. so far as math warning, there of some potentially rough political days ahead and the latest polling here in germany indicates that he is not alone. with that concern, a new survey from you god for shows, voters have lost faith and political leaders. 4 out of 10 say they're worried about german politics. 15 percent described themselves as frustrated. 12 percent or 10th at another 7 percent are fearful. less than $2.10 vote or say they're hopeful or even optimistic about the future of german politics. a. so an uncertain international order, the rise of extremism at home, another year of war and ukraine and mounting problems facing the economy. the list of worries for german voters is certainly long and high on that list is immigration, a divisive issue, that conservative say they're going to tackle head on jim and his center, right? christian democrats and the very and putting those,
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the c s. u. a talking tough on migration because that's who has been too much migration to germany in recent years. both illegal migration and some legal migration. this needs to change and not just cosmetically, but fundamental course made this toner cartridge. in the last 10 years, germany has taken in many people from 2015 close to a 1000000 syrians came sling war in the country. and in 2022, a similar number of refugees arrived from ukraine. that has led to problems with some local authorities struggling to provide housing, schools, and other services. some polls show the votes of c migration as the biggest problem and the strong support for anti immigration policies. the on so according to the center, right, cd you and see us, you turning back people at the border repatriation of those convicted of criminal
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offenses and the policy of returning syrians to their country following the full of the asset regime. they've even cold for the removal of gym and nationality from people with your citizenship, if they have found guilty of crimes or well, our shows is government has made it easier to obtain gym and citizenship. the conservatives want to reverse that trend. the total i turbo naturalization has led to a fundamental change in our country. if we don't change it again, jim and they will look different in 10 to 20 years. some people want that. the greens in the left is, but we don't want it in this fault. you're going to switch to that from some say, such idea is risk making, naturalize germans into 2nd class citizens sending a message. they can never be integrated back into the electro climb 8 with a message of empty immigration policies is attracting support gym and
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a cetera right. politicians clearly feel they need to tell voters they want to isaac controls on who comes into the country and he can stay. last year, germany responded to a string of violent attacks by for nationals, by tightening emigration falls. the debate over germany's internal security also flared after the recent christmas market attack and back to board for more detail. these chief political editor at mckayla could not spoke with the security expert and journalist peter knowing that the phenomena you are asking for nothing less than a turn around the site. and then just in terms of interior security in germany, which is very much being framed at the moment, the fight is attacked by an individual. it seems on a christmas market inactive. but what exactly are the consequences that you draw from that? and what's the big picture of what you're quoting for? so the, the attack in my to that was particularly devastating because the attacker was on the right, a screen of different agencies for number of years. he's been reported to the
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authorities at least 7 times different agencies, but the adults but not connected. and what i'm asking for is that where becoming better, connecting the dots that were creating a sort of structure that enabled security agencies to understand web buildings are coming in and how they are connected. but secondly, also that we're creating at this special category for people like this attacker who was not clearly as the mystically motive. it's not the different kind of motivation which also combined with, with psychological vulnerabilities. and in britain, for example, in front. so you have a special category for this kind of attack that combines geological motivations with psychological vulnerabilities in germany. we don't have that and i think it would be a good idea to, to create special categories that's actually concern us in voice many times of to every single attack. here in germany, there's
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a diagnosis of the lack of coordination of security agencies at the moment for having an intense migration to face because of this attack, which is not being treated as of as of right now. how much a 9th are you with the conservative comp here, which is asking also for the withdrawal citizenship for people who are offenders or who say they are, is limit and they are in favor in atlantic states kind of scenario. and what is your recommendation to the conservative? so i think at, i think we have to be careful about withdrawing citizenship. that is really the ultimate, the ultimate measured that should be taken. and it shouldn't be based just on a couple of utterances, something that someone said. however, i think there's a lot to do. security agencies in germany have a lot less capabilities than in many of the european countries capabilities in terms of surveillance capabilities. also in terms of the digital equipment and the
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things they are allowed to do. so i think it's a reasonable request to say the german authorities should be on a similar level to the british or french or austrian counts of pods right now they are not. that is, i think what the potty is asking for and that certainly support and the heavily reliance this done and security agencies on tips they get from the broad, particularly from the united states. how are you, how concerned are you that this change with attempt to present? yes, and so in 80 to 90 percent of cases of, of foiled terrorist attacks and terminate. it turns out that the initial indication, the initial sign that something was happening came actually from outside and typically from the americans. so german security agencies are heavily dependent on intelligence from the united states. and i wonder with the donald trump pull at some point, realize this, and we'll say, well, we want you to pay at least a share of that. so at that point term, we will have to decide,
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are we going to pay for this? or are we gonna equip our security agencies in a way that we can be an equal to? and that's the united states and can actually also contribute something rather than just being dependent. i want to come through this with a broad picture question. the lead up to the elections here and separating gemini, there's a radicalization islamist radicalization that everybody's concerned about. but how dangerous is the radicalization on the right side of political spectrum for the overall security situation? so i think we have a unique threat right now from assume this try to close asian, the numbers of attempt to the attacks has gone up very much. however, it needs to be recognized that different types of extremism often encourage each other. and so what we seen in different countries in europe is whenever an estimate attack happens at subsequent elections, the big political winners all the right thing and streams. and that is the big risk
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that we're having increasing this limits and, and that basically as a consequence of that writing stream is getting strong, driving stream is primarily right now is a political threat. system isn't as secure to try to a moment. thank you very much. thank you. have a south korean court has issued a 2nd arrest warrant against impeached president hughes. so you'll, after authorities failed to arrest him. last week, the embattled president has been barricaded inside his residence, where he's protected by hundreds of security personnel. his lawyer said he's still there despite rumors that he had fled. each of these east asia correspondent james trader, reports from so in this hillside. so residents, south korea's impeached president human social hiding from arrest is under investigation for the insurrection. following his bush speed to impose marshal nor,
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and we're in december. but despite the seconds arrest warrants being issued against him, he's in faded detention with the security brocade. and on wednesday protests and suppose the views swelled on the road outside. he's coming out. many of the parts as blind may have been paid for a number of consecutive days now and then making said they wouldn't leave this place. and so what they do is the threat of deals secure and despite widespread purchases and did use motion with decoration, many support is believe they are protecting democracy due to it's 2 years old. tens of thousands of people have shed blogs. you'll state them and left the names in history to protect democracy and who knows how to on the whole democracy can be achieved by sitting still say fear of using the election. the use removal would trigger is the key driver for his buckets. the on one hand, what are returned to democracy enormously, but on the other hand,
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they are afraid of, of the will get into power from that they may lose the next electoral battle. south korea's vaccine president is still thursdays to prevent physical conflicts in their efforts to arrest you. but with no sign it and bucking down, it's still not clear how this volatile chunk to in south korea's politics will come to annette. it was james che, to reporting, and that is our show for today. follow our team on social media at dw news, and of course there's our website dw, dock. com. i'm clear, richardson and berlin for me and the whole team here. thank you so much for watching the,
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