his territory was seen as a joke, just another random remark from an erotic us presidents. but today that laughter is where he's been. donald trump is a gun lean claims to the arctic island and beyond. and he hasn't rules out military action. so is this just from trying to be provocative or does the world actually need to take this seriously? i'm glad richardson in berlin. you are watching the day the what we need to in for national security check. what do you mean that is not for sale. i'm talking about protecting the very world traditional brand new t also states has to be respected. the principle of and viability of board is applies to every country. the panama canal was built for a military. so at any of our canals, sovereignty is not negotiable. and it's appropriate,

it's appropriate also ahead on the day, the man leading the race to be germany's next chancellor. the conservative feverish match gets his campaign underway and his leadership plans come with a warning about trumps. the 2nd term, we must expect to see disruptive political decisions in the us and the week off the next. when donald trump becomes president, you've all seen and heard examples of this in recent days. to our viewers on pdf and around the world. welcome to the show. we've been with us president elect donald trump, now less than 2 weeks away from his and on duration, but already causing concern among america's allies. during his latest press conference in florida, he talked about expanding us territory in a way that would fundamentally redraw the map of the western hemisphere. so he said he wanted to rename the gulf of mexico as the gulf of america. you once again

talked about reclaiming the panama canal and then the suggestions of making canada the 51st us states and getting denmark to hand over greenland. we should say trump 1st floated the idea of buying the arctic island back in 2019. during his 1st term, it came to nothing then, but is more at play this time round. more soon after this reports, greenland, the world's largest island home to just 57000 people. it lies between the atlantic, an arctic oceans, and it belongs to denmark. its residents, are you citizens? but donald trump, things it should be part of the us. people really don't even know if denmark has any legal rights to it, but if they do, they should give it up because we need it for national security. that's for the free world. i'm talking about protecting the free will use comments both this

reaction from denmark. you look at the statement in the eyes of the danish government under greenland is for the greenland, dis people funding fastpitch. it is a proud people, a language and culture that has their own, some and a stated before by the chem and if the queen landed condiment, which is the green and is not for so also on the agenda for trump, the panama canal, a key trade volts, away for ships traveling between the atlantic and pacific oceans. it was largely built by the us in the early 20th century. but panama took over full control of the canal in 1999. the press conference, trump refused to ru allowance, using military force to get it back. can you can you tell me what, what is the stress?

yeah, i can assure you you're talking about panama in greenland. now i can assure you on either of those 2. but i can say there's, we need them for economic security. the panama canal was built for a military here to there was a robust response from panama or officials. last, so it any? yeah, the sovereignty, if i can, i is non negotiable, as it is part of the history of struggle and, and in the best of all the chief months in a way to see. trump also has canada in his sites, saying he would use economic force to try to bring a balance and onyx ation. canadian prime minister justin true diode sweet to didn't response. the isn't says no gold chum seen hell. the candidate will become part of the united states. i have to say, donald trump certainly isn't making any friends with his foreign policy agenda was a mess. and in 2 weeks time, the world will begin to find out how his words will translate into action. as he returns to the whites house for his 2nd term,

about approaching reality of trumps. the 2nd term is forcing american allies here in europe to reevaluate the relationship and how to keep it in good standing. today denmark's foreign minister tried to lower the heat by saying he was open to dialogue on arctic cooperation. yeah, i don't know if he would save you, but i don't think that we are in a foreign policy crisis. yeah, i see a president who is on his way into the white house who has a heart and focus on the optic. and i can understand that he has that the we also have that from the dining side. and we also have that with the nighttime, with the whole discussion about the how i know it takes up much more time today than it did years ago or for the offices. but in france and germany, there's open concern about donald trump, the parent threat to the you sovereignty, the french foreign ministers onto a borrow, said the you have to defend itself, better against quote attacks on it's sovereign borders. and this was the reaction

from the german chancellor, all schultz in mind, just please, in my discussions with the european partners a certain income prevention has become clear when it comes to current statements from the united states. so the principal loving viable board is applies to every country, regardless of whether it's to the east or west of is almost every country must abide by this principle regardless of whether it's a small country or powerful state. so to unpack all of that, i would like to welcome christine by xena, the managing director of the g m. s g o strategy north program for the focus on us and architect defense and security. she's joining us today from washington d. c. welcome. i'd like to start by asking you for your reaction to these comments . how seriously do you think from would pursue these threats? if at all, for the fact that we are hearing about trumps interest in greenland

and concert over arctic security again in advance of and coming in for a 2nd time indicates that his 1st terms interest in purchasing greenland wasn't a passing fad. it wasn't just a glimmer. in fact, trump seems to have an interest in particular in the architect and in the high north. a lot of that seems to make sense when you look at the way that russia has been increasing investments in its own architect and defenses. despite the war, russia has been making sure that it's nuclear fleets and it's arctic capabilities are stronger. it is cooperating more with china getting more over to china for development in the arctic. these are the big concerns for the united states, which has an architect, country in and of itself. the problem is, of course, is the rhetoric and the front should be perfectly reasonable for the united states to work with the other non russian nato allies, to have deeper corporation capabilities development. the development of

a central resources and raw materials and critical materials that are in greenland for the benefit of the democracies that are all partners. and how lies the approach so a threatening to have to purchase or to try to coerce denmark into giving over territory. these pressure that is putting on on mexico and on panama is very much contrary to the position and the values that the u. s. has taken in the past. the us has had a very strong, attractive force. the us has respected and stood up for small countries, for people, for their rights and for sovereignty and self determination. and that is not what we're hearing in the approach that trump is taking, and to not rule out military force for these objective. so when it comes to nato allies, it is especially remarkable. so again, there is a conflict between legitimate concerns that could be addressed very productively

collaboratively. and a unilateral and intimidation based approach that trumps you can take note is that parents threats of military force that has alarm bells bringing in the you especially what would happen if the us were to attack greenland and, and just to give us a bit more context how much of a geostrategic vulnerability is greenland for the united states? so we're looking here at long term strategic trends. there is no imminent threat to the united states coming from or the agreement. when you think about greenland agreement, it's important because of where it is between uh, between north america and europe and the passage way between breeland and don't use the map is a great illustration there. so there's the g i u. k. gap which you talk about in the foreign policy terms of greenland, iceland,

u. k. norway. the gap between these countries in the north atlantic is also the way that russia is able to get it's northern fleet gets nuclear submarines down from the cola peninsula and into the atlantic. russia considers this to be its major, strategic need enabled or ability. if that is closed off, and also in case of a larger conflict with russia for the north americans to reinforce europe, they would need to be transmitted across this gap across the atlantic. so they need to be able to control the c way or to have access to it, or to prevent pressure from cutting it off. has been a preoccupation since world war 2. and before this is a very important long term strategic need. but that is different from an imminent national security concern. what would make sense for the us is to build upon its existing basis which are in the north agreement already in to develop that those

capabilities further, let alone actually build icebreakers and other capabilities that the us needs already in order to be stronger in the architect but that is a very different conversation than the one that is currently being had about purchasing of a cursing and to hand over a territory. because the us as a new position at the moment to even fully access or to assist and the defense of these high north and arctic territories. indeed it seems that's very much not the direction that the conversation is currently going. i'm curious, greenland on denmark. leaders have both reiterated that agreement is not for sale. how much of a se does a greenland having this as well. greenland is a part of the kingdom of denmark, but it has its own uh, self governance and its on parliament. and as we saw right now, when the, the, the danish officials are speaking of the prime minister, is speaking about agreement the, the voices of the say of green landers and their futures care about. this is the

difference. the problem when the last time the us offered to purchase a greenland before truck came in right after world war 2, president truman offered and created denmark, the ability to, to sell a greenland to the united states, and that was rejected. back in that day, it was still a to know colonial era across europe, and that is really not the world we live in today. today. the west, in particular, advocates for the rights of a green landers as any other people in their states, to be solver and to have a say in the direction that their country's take. it is not for, for a certain bigger countries to car boss and partaken, give away territories of other people. it comes down to the individual themselves. and when we talk about greenland, there is a historic folder ability for uh, for indigenous groups and across the world. and the way that they have been pushed

and coerced in the past. so because this conversation of agreement is not just about about denmark itself, but already fits into a slightly more complicated dynamic. and denmark is getting so much voice to the green lenders themselves. i think it is important to understand that even the rhetoric of trade and the read language of coersion fits into a very unwelcome historical rhetoric that harks back to a colonial era and as incredibly unwelcome globally, but also contrary to the interest of the united states and europe the global south, in particular, as we think about more of this global competition between north america and europe and china, russia, the colonial past that your is, had, has been a big problem and that we should not for you to get. thank you so much for providing all that context for us. that is it christine birds in from the german marshall fund.

now here in germany, political parties are launching their campaigns for a general election due on february 23rd conservative cd you party. candidate features match seen here in the middle is tipped to be the next chancellor of germany. as the conservatives look set to win the largest share of the vote in their promising to move germany to the right on social and economic policies, merits himself is also a warrant that europe needs to be prepared for what he called the disruptive politics of donald trump. he's warranted that both the germany and europe needs to be prepared for that 2nd term. last but not least, to help. i know since i took a detailed look at china and the us and the call on all of us, not just germany, but the entire european union to ensure that the e u now really grows up and we become capable of taking action. that's the hunting season, we must expect to see disruptive political decisions in the us and the week off the

next. when donald trump becomes president, something you've all seen and heard examples of this in recent days. so far as math warning, there of some potentially rough political days ahead and the latest polling here in germany indicates that he is not alone without concern. a new survey from you god for shows, voters have lost faith and political leaders for out of 10 say they're worried about german politics. 15 percent describe themselves as frustrated, 12 percent or tense. at another 7 percent are fearful. less than $2.10 voters say they're hopeful or even optimistic about the future of german politics. a so an uncertain international order, the rise of extremism at home, another year of war and ukraine and mounting problems facing the economy. the list of worries for german voters is certainly long and high on that list is immigration, a divisive issue, that conservative say they're going to tackle head on jim and his center, right?

christian democrats and the very and putting those, the c s. u. a talking tough on migration because that's who has been too much migration to gemini and reese and he is both illegal migration and some legal migration. this needs to change and not just cosmetically, but fundamental cost me to. so when i go to the, in the last 10 years, germany has taken a many people from 2015 close to a 1000000 syrians came, fling war in the country. and in 2022, a similar number of refugees arrived from ukraine. that has led to problems with some local authorities struggling to provide housing, schools, and other services. some polls show the votes, as the migration has the biggest problem, and the strong support for anti immigration policies. the own sir, according to the center, right?

say to you and see us, you turning back people at the border repatriation of those convicted of criminal offenses and the policy of returning syrians to their country following the full of the asset regime. they've even cooled for the removal of gym and nationality from people with your citizenship, if they have found guilty of crimes. well our sholtes, he's government has made it easier to obtain gym and citizenship. the conservatives want to reverse that trend. so the total i talked about naturalization has led to a fundamental change in our country. if we don't change it again, jim and they will look different in 10 to 20 years. some people want that, the greens in the left is, but we don't want it in this fault. you avoid this needs to define some say, such ideas, risk making, naturalize germans into 2nd class citizens sending a message. they can never be integrated back into the electoral climate. where the

message of n t immigration policies is attracting support gym and a sense of right politicians clearly feel they need to tell voters, they want ties. it controls on who comes into the country and he can stay last year, germany responded to a string of violent attacks by for nationals, by tightening immigration voles. the debate over germany's internal security also flared after the recent christmas market attack and back to board. for more detail, these chief political editor at mckayla coast not spoke with a security expert in journalist peter knowing that the phenomena you are asking for nothing less than a turn around the site vendor. in terms of interior security in germany, which is very much being framed at the moment, the fight is attacked by an individual. it seems on a christmas mock has inactive. but what exactly are the consequences that you draw from that? and what's the big picture of what you're quoting for? so the, the attack and match bug was particularly devastating because the attacker was on

the right, a screen of different agencies for number of years. he's been reported to the authorities at least 7 times different agencies. but the adults but not connected. and what i'm asking for is that we're becoming better connecting the dots that we're creating, a sort of structure that enables security agencies to understand web openings are coming in and how they are connected. but secondly, also that we're creating a, this, a special category for people like this attack of who was not clearly as the mystically most of it's not the different kind of motivation which also combined with, with psychological vulnerabilities. and in britain, for example, in front. so you have a special category for this kind of attack that combines geological motivations with psychological vulnerabilities in germany. we don't have that. and i think it would be a good idea to, to create a special category that's actually considered as invoice many times of to every

single attack. here in germany, there's a diagnosis of the lack of coordination of security agencies at the moment for having an intense migration of age because of this attack, which is not being treated as, as of right now. how much the nines are you with the conservative comp here, which is often also for the withdrawal citizenship for people who are offenders or who say they are, is list and they are in favor in atlantic states kind of scenario. and what is your recommendation to the conservative? so i think at, i think we have to be careful about withdrawing citizenship. that is really the ultimate, the ultimate measured that should be taken then. it shouldn't be based just on a couple of utterances, something that someone said. however, i think there's a lot to do. security agencies in germany have a lot less capabilities than in many of the european countries capabilities in terms of surveillance capabilities. also in terms of the digital equipment and the

things they are allowed to do. so i think it's a reasonable request to say the german authorities should be on a similar level to the british or french or austrian counts of pods right now they are not. that is, i think what the potty is asking for and that certainly support and the heavily reliance this done and security agencies on tips they get from the board, particularly from the united states. how are you? how concerned are you that this could change with the trump to present? yes, and so in 80 to 90 percent of cases of, of, for the terrorist attacks and terminate. it turns out that the initial indication, the initial sign that something was happening came actually from outside and typically from the americans. so 10 and security agencies are heavily dependent on intelligence from the united states. and i wonder with the donald trump pull at some point, realize this, and we'll say, well, we want you to pay at least

a share of that. so at that point term, we will have to decide, are we going to pay for this? or are we gonna equip our security agencies in a way that we can be an equal to? and that's the united states and can actually also contribute something rather than just being dependent. i want to come through this with a broad picture question. the lead up to the elections here and separating gemini, there's a radicalization islamist radicalization that everybody's concerned about. but how dangerous is the radicalization on the right side of the political spectrum for the overall security situation? so i think we have a unique threat right now from seamless try to close asian. the numbers of attempted attacks has gone up very much. however, it needs to be recognized that different types of extremism often encourage each other. and so what we seen in different countries in europe is whenever an estimate attack happens at subsequent elections,

the big political winners all the right thing and streams. and that is the big risk that we're having increasing this limits and, and that basically as a consequence of that writing stream is getting strong, driving stream is primarily right now is a political threat. isn't, isn't as secure to try. it's a moment. thank you very much. thank you. have a south korean court has issued a 2nd arrest warrant against impeached president hughes. so you'll, after authorities failed to arrest him. last week, the embattled president has been barricaded inside his residence, where he's protected by hundreds of security personnel. his lawyer said he's still there despite rumors that he had fled, dw, east asia correspondent, james trader, reports from so in this hillside. so residents, south korea's impeached president human social hiding from arrest is under investigation for the insurrection. following his bush speed to impose marshal nor,

and so we're in december. but despite the seconds arrest warrants being issued against him, he's of faded detention with the security brocade. and on wednesday protests and suppose the views swelled on the road outside these content. many of the processes behind me have been paid for a number of consecutive days now and then making said they wouldn't leave this place. and so what they do is the threat of deals secure and despite widespread purchases and did use motion with declaration, many support is believe they are protecting democracy due to it's 2 years old. tens of thousands of people have shredded logical data and left the names in history to protect democracy and cannot tell you on the whole democracy can be achieved by sitting still save parents using the election. the use removal would

trigger is a key driver for his buckets. the on one hand, what are returned to democracy enormously, but on the other hand, they are afraid of, of the will get into power from that that they may lose the next electoral battle south korea's vaccine president is still thursday, is to prevent physical conflicts in their efforts to arrest you, but with no sign of him bucking down, it's still not clear how this volatile chunk to in south korea's politics will come to an end. was james shader reporting, and that is our show for today. follow our team on social media at dw news, and of course there's our website, dw, dock. com. i'm claire richardson in berlin for me and the whole team here. thank you so much for watching the,

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