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the, the, we will not say the way starts february 14th on d, w. the is the state of the news coming to live for land is really prime minister says a deal has been reached released hostages in concept benjamin netanyahu offices, israel security cabinet. we'll meet later today to quote on the cease fire for a hostile does deal with how much diff deceased by does hold. what next, rebuilding gaza and charting of a political future for its people remain huge. test the hello and jerry martin. good to have you with us after
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a day of delay and the accusations, israel security cabinet is set to meet to approve a ceasefire deal for kaiser prime minister benjamin netanyahu says the final details have now been ironed out after fairly are claiming that a mazda backtracked on parts of the agreement, but is really a national security minister. it come up and to view has threatened to resign from the coalition government. if the deal is approved. the full is really government must agree before the truce can take effect as planned. on sunday. village cross straight over to our jerusalem correspond atanya kramer. tanya, security cabinet members are gathering to vote on the ceasefire deal. what can we expect from this meeting as well? absolutely. so this was announced in the early morning hours that the prime minister convenes the security covering that now in the morning. so we don't know
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how long the minutes did these minutes. as the end the cabinet will be sitting usually what is happening right now. they will be briefed by the media to said, uh when they write back from uh to ha, uh, and then there will be a debate. so we have to wait and see how long they will uh took about this deal. and then they will be a vote. and after that, usually what is happening, it is expected to go then uh to the right to the, to the white, a cabinet where there will be the same procedure again. uh, there will be a briefing uh for all the ministers done of this cabinet and then there is expected to be a vote that there are hurdles still to be cleared on this. there's some timing to that has to be addressed to pick the ceasefire supposed to come into effect already on sunday. how realistic is it that that will actually happen on sunday? well 1st of all, we have to see now whether you know,
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after the security cabinet needs, whether we have this a other cabinet, the why the government then meeting as well, that helping reports that this might actually be delayed to saturday night. but there has also been a lot of criticism over to him as well. so as to why they should be delighted. i mean, there's some considerations. this is now going into the beacons into there's about and some of the religious members may be of the cabinet. and not be able to vote, but there's certain provisions that if it's a life threatening situation that they could do so. so we have to wait and see whether the of why they're coming up with also then meet after the security cabinet . but of all the votes will go through, we know that there will be some members of the cabinet that will be voting against the state, but they still the expectation. and this the, any surprises that the cabinet will a pos, a this through. at some stage there's also a lot of domestic pressure, a lot of international pressure, but also obviously this pressure from the incoming us administration from donald
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trump, himself, he just said he wants to see this being put in motion before the integration on monday. and once this is done, if the boat goes through, then there's a whole process that we need to look at. usually then the list of the palestinians that will be exchanged, that are in is rarely prisons. this will be a populist in uh from the prison or ortiz. this gives uh, you know, a time for some of the, uh, for some objections and petitions against it. this is usually period of 48 hours. you know, this is all setting this whole process in motion, but that could also be shortened now. so we have to wait for this. uh and then uh we are expecting uh the, the cx 5 still most likely to come is all of this goes well, the thing is, surprises to come in an enterprise on sunday, at least uh, what comes and when it comes to the, a cessation of hostilities we don't know yet whether you know,
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the release of to hostages will also then be happening as it was a ton and a towards sunday afternoon evening. and the really the release of the posting in prison is at the point. okay, so we have the is really wor, cabinet that needs to approve at the is really government needs to approve it. and if there, man, if they manage to expedite the process that cease fire could take place on sunday. now the meanwhile is really military is continuing to pound targets in gaza. can you give us a sense of what the purpose of these attacks might be? to let me resend this in, in previous conflict search and a once uh, you know, see, so i both agreed and depending on how false this would come into effect that in the last hours or last days before that, uh the um, you know, the fighting and what we're seeing right now, unfortunately, and garza is intensifying, i mean, a people that i've been home it's, it's a very,
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very 10 situation. and many of put that in questions because, you know, many of the victims that are a lot of injured and killed are also a civilians according to the house, officials that in golf. and so we might as see this, the, the is really, i mean, is that they have target of course, what they are describing us military targets. uh, so there will be, you know, unfortunately you might see this a still a intensifying, but, you know, which we also have to say um, you know, it is very important that, you know, once a ceasefire comes into effect, possibly then on sunday, and there's again, there's a lot of pressure from the international community. this is the date set for it that it should happen. then. this is also needed then a to set the whole process in motion. the logistics, you know, for this 1st exchange of those hostages that are engaged in exchange for the palestinians. the posting in a prison us know how much needs to have a this,
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a pause then in fighting in the set in place because they have to locate and to assemble, you know, these hostages. also, people have said, you know, that this bombardment and goals are that's going on is also not just threatening the lives of posting instead, but also often hostages. so once the fighting stops on, on, on, on sunday, that will be a whole list of, you know, logistics, the whole process that starts, it has already started from what you're getting from the is there any military from the defense ministry? the hospitals here are already on the alert and also the international red cross that will be assist thing with the extreme. but also there is of course, a part of the process that you know, the prison services then will assemble, you know, the palestinians that we will see to be released. we don't know yet, they might be released into the occupied westbank. somebody be deported to garza, some might be deported to certain countries. so this is a huge undertaking that we'll be seeing here, you know,
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unfolding in the coming hours. it's all of this goes well, tony, thank you very much. that was our correspondence, russo and tanya kramer. so as tanya is just describes, everything is being put in place on the assumption that they cease. fire will come into effect on sunday. if that deal does indeed go ahead from us would initially hand over $33.00 hostages in the coming weeks in exchange for is ruled freeing hundreds of palestinian prisoners. but how did the analysis but his real stepped up airstrikes and guns, as we mentioned, the hum us run. health ministry says those strikes have killed more than 80, polished, and he has mixed feelings among thousands celebrations. that the news of a cease fire mix to doubt that it will happen and tinge with sadness that everything that has been lost. that trepidation is backed up by
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events since the announcement it is rarely ash dikes punctured to celebrate to be moved, taking the lives with them. the deal is supposed to come into force on sunday the on certain days ahead and making some here novice we must remain cautious. we were afraid that could be an even worse blood boston before i told him anything of it the next few days could be even more difficult than the whole of the last year. i am in the middle of summer. we just hope the blood should stops by sold others and noticing the positive impacts. the news has already had on the everyday lives. the price of this bunch of vegetables used to be $30.00 cycles. now it's 5. the ceasefire. news has reduced the price of this, this bottled oil cost $10.00 circles. now. it was 30 before that. we weren't, cigarette price has to be cheaper to the others. as thinking about the future,
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we need to start thinking of solutions and enough destruction and was we're exhausted. 15 months of humiliation and living and trying to tens in during this time i hate them the winter cold. and this the children who died of cold like nobody is riley's, also appear to be apprehensive, receive free. like because there is a threat from the from come us like if we just like going to let them guys vega and there might be doing a summer 7th again, like knowing that it guarantees differently. i think we, we gonna fall back to a well again, was a, was because a citizen was because we've come with some us. i think the agreement is a good agreement. the once we get all the hostages back into the bodies that are being held there captive. but i think that how much will re online regroup again as we see in the correlation that they have been some dis,
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cord against disagreement with home us a deceased by a deal is fall from certain. and it seems that few on either side are willing to believe it until they see it. a short while ago i spoke with rosaria mullen, who is in gaza. she's with unicef. they're working in the southern coastal area of all milwaukee. i asked her what people there are saying about the prospect of a cease fire. you know, here in southern guys and all my while i see it, it doesn't really feel or sound like a ceasefire. yet. this morning i woke up to the very strong bodies of drones flying over, so that continues unabated. at 2 nights ago, the news of a deal to secure a seized bar or was received from mendez joy just an outpouring of, of joy and tribulation. you know, people are longing for an end to this war. they want to go back to their homes to
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see what's left of it. children, i speak to tell me that they long to sleep in their beds. they want their bed rooms . they want to see what's left of it, and so everyone is, is very desperate and hopeful. but at the same time, the techs continue to be reported. doesn't continue to be to be killed or have been reported killed, including at least 20 children over over to boss the $24.00 or 48 hours or so. the international community has promised an aid surge integrated. so once the ceasefire is established, there are trucks on their way. what are you expecting in terms of 8 deliveries assuming the deal is approved to so that's a very important point because people here in garza family suffer not just because of the relentless, a text because of the booms and the bullets. but also because of the other deprivation that they've been living through over the past 15 months, you know,
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children under their cold state, they walk around and summer clothes. they don't have proper clothes, their shelters are and protecting them from the cold and the rain there. they live in make shift tents. they haven't had a proper meal for well over a year. families live of canned food and flour and health care has been decimated. children has been out of school for one year and a half, so the needs are immense. and that's why it's important that age can enter the gaza strip, but not just age. we also need the commercial sector to be able to bring in supplies. organizations like my own, like unicef, when it comes to things like nutrition, we actually have been bringing in high energy bisk with therapeutics food. so nutritional supplements for children who are most vulnerable children suffering from malnutrition. but ultimately, if the private sector could actually bring in supplies at scale,
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if they could bring in food, dairy products, food vegetables, and large volumes empower lo, that would actually help address one of these very pressing issues of as well nutrition. so it's important that both happens, singleton, usually a search in 8 and a search in commercial supplies. but the ceasefire by itself isn't the guarantee that that will happen automatically. there's a large range of, of excess constraints that need to be addressed to the operational environment has to be improved for us to be able to bring aiden, but also want to reach is gone. so for us to distribute it to, to families and meet what is most needed for the children of god. so right now, right now i would say an immediate holt in, in the fighting that sound of, of the drones flying over that has to stop. and children have been exposed to
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violence for over 15 months. many children have been killed at least 14500 children, a report at killed, at tens of thousands more have been injured some with life changing injuries. i've met quite a few children were sleggs and other limbs have been emptied status of my children, who now are blind as a result of air strikes on their homes. so that has to stop and equally dis, this would help children or would give children opportunity to recover psychologically because the suffering is not just physical. it's also psychological . children has been exposed to this violence permanently but, but they've also been stuck in this cycle of very toxic stress. children are acutely aware that nowhere is safe in gaza. children speak about this. for instance, this child that i met who lost his eyesight, he had to scold fracture in an air strike on his home. i asked what happened to him,
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and he said there was an air strike. many people were killed and the air strike also killed his eyes. he set my eyes, went to heaven. before i did, this was a 5 year old boy who also stayed very severe, burns all over his body. so every single child in gaza today is in need of psycho social supports. they need to be able to get services, mental health services to process the very traumatic experiences. they've lived in the feelings associated with that. and for that we need the ceasefire to materialize and for both sides to adhere to it. that was rosalia ball in from eunice, in southern gaza, speaking to me a short while ago when we are paying commission has and now it's the 120000000 euro a package for g as in the current year. but when it comes to rebuilding the shattered territory, that's a drop in the bucket. meanwhile,
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the question of who will govern the gaza strip remains unresolved destruction everywhere. more than 2 thirds of guns as buildings damaged or destroyed, from government offices to houses and beyond. news of the cease fire brought relief in gaza and cautious hope for the 1st phase of the truce. done, i was hoping you know, because everything behind was destroyed and our future just have to be like the way to do that. we could have been a new furniture from scratch to an estimated 90 percent of guidance have been displaced during the war. they'll finally be able to start coming home from the 10th cities and open air camps that have housed them. but they faced significant challenges. many apartment blocks had been slammed by as rarely bombs, safe drinking water is in short supply. and most of the infrastructure is in ruins
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. yeah, this 75 percent of causes, buildings fully are partially destroyed. you have no economy, no infrastructure, no education, no health care. and so you're going to have a desolate territory with desperate populations that are hanging on by a thread. yes, the absence of war is positive. but with how mass being solely in control is going to be a disaster for the future of the gaza strip. and indeed, the house, any national project to the is really military will leave most of garza for so called buffers, own about one kilometer wide along the border with israel. the id f will also occupies a strip of land called the nets, are in car door that separates north and south casa, and it will keep control of the philadelphia card or a zone along the border with egypt to deter arms smuggling, humanitarian aid will again, flow into the besieged territory,
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where international agencies have worn famine and may have taken hold. $600.00 food trucks are scheduled to deliver 8 every day once the ceasefire takes effect. however, loading of aid as emerged as a major problem. and over the course of the war, israel has imposed inspections on trucks that have slow deliveries. the 1st steps are supposed to take place in the days and weeks to come. reconstruction will take years or decades, and the territories political future is still unclear. of more or less cost over to journalist kristen headed back. she's an expert on the middle east. kristen. the agreement on the table includes different phases, walk us through how this is posted on for this uh, this deal. well actually both sides have quite an interest in getting through this 1st phase, which for sees 42 days of cease fire 6 weeks,
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which means the release of 33 hostages among them to americans. among them, several females soldiers in exchange to several 100 post in prison. this, that is supposed to be the withdrawal of his way. the forces from densely populated areas and humanitarian aid is supposed to reach the goal of the step on the highest caves. now within the 1st phase, they are supposed to start negotiations off the 2nd phase, and this is really the breaking point i would say. so there are 3 phases that are the final one is supposed to kind of set up the future for gaza and bring about to a more lasting piece. how difficult you think it will be to get to that phase. well the most difficult part is the 2nd phase, which would include the end of the war and gaza, which means the permanent ceasefire and a full withdrawal of israeli forces from the concepts trip. and this is something
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that these, what any government's refuse us at this point because they are saying that for security reasons, they want to stay in the different buffer zones in the flat se corey door in the military and corey to between northern and southern causes. so this is really the, the point where i'm very skeptical that this will happen. and then the 3rd phase, if they get to this, would be that the final bodies of death is way the hostages would be released and the reconstruction of guns that supposed to begin so difficult again the end of the war and to was supposed to take over the control and the administration and god, exactly that. the reconstruction governance phase that's, that's a, there's a huge question mark over that. if we get that far, there's a lot of speculation about causes post for future and who will govern the territory . what do you see as the most likely scenario? if we get there? if everybody agrees the time most is not supposed to play
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a role or to control government in the future, that has to be discussions that have to be discussed on the no charge? no, the palestinian authority is supposed to take over the administration, but it lacks legitimacy among the posting of people. it controls the west bank and it has to be reformed. which means that there needs to be an exchange in the leadership. yeah. partitions of technocratic government sort of take over and there is one very popular political speaker, my one, but boutique who is in jane. how much demanded his release for this prison, the exchange and the 1st phase. and it is to be seen whether someone like my one, but what you would use to be from such as dependents. daniel authorities, party in the past who played a prominent role during the 2nd the father. he's like a national hero for the students who would be a person who could unite really these post union efforts. how much has to agree to a certain point to a post war scenario, to not be able to act as
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a boy. so how to exclude from us when at the same time getting the approval off the transitional face that would be led by the palestinian authority. you petitions, and backed by the international community and the you. and obviously there are reports that come us and the palestinian authority have been talking in cairo with each other. what do you make about or they have been trying to re consign all of the last months is there is several meetings in moscow. even china was involved, they have not reached an agreement and this reconciliation, they haven't done so for years. the question is whether with this chance of uniting because us trip with the west bank and again, they would be able to re consignment to find distribution as i said, with the approval of from us without being part of the postwar scenario. and then administration in gaza and then the big question is, who's supposed to secure this internationally the role of arab states?
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is there any chance of for impulse to play a constructive role here? what happens in gaza is of great importance for the world as a whole, but particularly for other countries in the region. how do those other, those error countries in the, in the region look at these latest developments and gaza and look to the future of what are they hoping for? well, 1st of all, we have to acknowledge the role of cut out in egypt and these negotiations. so it was again, their efforts over many months has to come to this agreement. obviously, the whole region, once this problem to be settled, they understood that they cannot just negotiate agreements with is way buying that will agreements like the united arab emirates to it, and model crowded and behind it and the advert him a ports hold of the hands of the posting, it's this will not be able to, to be repeated be saw on october 7th. what would be the result that the students have to gain their sovereignty?
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so it all depends on saudi arabia of this, because this would be like the big price from an is really perspective to get a normalization with saudi arabia. this is on trump agenda, definitely for his to him to come. so the question is, will sylvia arrived yet insist on the existence off a summer for the city and state before agreeing to normalization with is what and, and the question on the short term obviously is who is ready to engage in the control of the gaza strip for example, united arab emirates, and egypt that has been talked about putting some soldiers or even troops on the ground to control who is and go going from southern go together to tune up and go to control the check points there. i would say that any error in bozeman would insist on a complete withdrawal of israeli forces. this is the precondition. so the question is very much is right and is ready to read to this. and if an international community, what gift is, what able feeding all security, it needs to agree to such and new autonomy from the pedestal inside bank by the
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arab states and backed by the international community. kristen held the journalist an expert on the middle east. thank you very much. my pleasure. this. while the united states has been instrumental in helping to push the gaza ceasefire deal over the line, the agreement has been months in the making a dressing american troops and a fair wheel speech on thursday outgoing present. joe biden admitted that the road to a deal between is real and from us has not been easy. meanwhile, donald trump to officially takes office on monday, has said the agreement would never have happened without pressure from him and his team. but dw reporter michelle stockman is with us here in the studio for more on the us perspective. michelle, both white and trump are claiming credit for the cease fire. what does that say about where the middle east stands in the list of priorities for washington?
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i think it is front and center for both of these men who have both claimed credit for it. of course, they want this conflict to be over by then he's looking at his legacy and he wants staring into the void of it and kind of the troubled end of his presidency. he wants something good to hang his hat on. trump wants to enter the white house with a big victory and move forward away from this. and if we look at it generously, they're listening to calls from around the world to end the suffering, the death and destruction both of palestinians and of the as really hostages. if we look at it more cynically, this conflict has really dragged down america's image around the world being tied to israel and the images of the death and destruction on both of these 9 want that to be done. the war and gaza has been hugely controversial in the us politically, but also socially cultural. culturally they've been massive demonstrations, particularly universities in the us. a lot of criticism from different directions.
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tell us more about that. this has been a contentious issue into the waning hours of biden's presidency for all people involved. and we need to look no further then a few hours ago at the final press conference that anthony blinking held in the state department. and i've asked the control room to run a little bit of tape here. what you're seeing here is an independent journalist, sam can see any of heckling, a bite or sorry, blinking and calling him out for not ending the worst center. to clear the quite a scene there. that's right. i mean, he's saying you belong in the hague use and be prosecuted for war crimes. so this issue really came to before back in spring 2024. during the presidential campaign,
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it was a dominant issue and really to our part, the fabric of american society. in many ways. no, no more else really was the epicenter except for columbia university, which is my only matter where we had protests from students who were pro palestinian. and there were also jewish, and it's really students who didn't feel safe on campus. and the republicans turned it into kind of a one order issue. and it's really debatable whether this last the election for both biden and complet harris. an air of americans largely in the state of michigan decided they were disgusted with the policy the, the war couldn't be ended and so turned their votes over to trump. so i'm, well, we'll never know exactly the if the bottom industries and could have ended the sooner there's cause an alternative reality. we don't know that's up for the story ends to debate this point. michelle, thank you very much. or you are reported michelle. stop this. you
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