tv Never Again Deutsche Welle January 19, 2025 3:15am-4:00am CET
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the each person different with individual interest goals and opinions. which way should they look at their own histories? the country that they share with one another is held together by a strong democracy on some codes and kennedy. i'm not a young found one democracy. i just sit down that allows people to say what they think without fear. it wasn't always based way. the microphone worked, the wind right in germany, history shows how important it is to protect political freedoms. today, only a few people who live through the crimes of nazi tyranny us than a life. so fewer and fewer people know someone who can bear witness
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the can. we learn from the past. can we keep history from repeating the ever again? what can we do so that never again is more than just a well intentioned idea, the tennessee, it's different games now. never again is of us as diesel taste as never again you need to be never again. no, i haven't heard of that. have to do is to can never again milk everyday things to may be the never again, you know,
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never again this week or something. yeah. the big group, of course, the never again means somebody was nice and there's always this. i just think it's important positive as why because even today he never so stupid people who try it down or fall. deny it completely calm. those know, don't come to, that's not a for an item, says watson fillings, those germans, this, our juicy, actually the mazda to do something. and we knew its happening. um, there was some things we must have. absolutely. nasa, again, allowance is definitely never should be repeated. we never exactly know of a country memorialized it's crimes. to the same extent, germany has over $300.00 official memorial sites and museums dedicated to the honda cost or showing as more than $100000.00 commemorative. stumbling stones, being laid inside folks in commemoration of the victims is firmly anchored in german politics and society. maybe the ever again,
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it's everyday is. thank you very much at all smoke. gosh, that's cool. i think that if you look at gemini from the outside, you can see an incredible discrepancy though we have expressions of solidarity in the political arena. we have big ceremonies. we have a lot of empty phrases and lots of talk about juice on dash side to find the same time when we look at the street. let's see for me to universities and school more. we see that anti semitism has exploded since september. the 7th flushed di and anti semitism that is positive everyday lives has most. that's one of them. i'd take this indeed. i don't think so. new as a mackenzie for gun and hide and you know, you knew the pass ultimate, everyone knew was about to discuss this, this part of how did i don't think there's a problem with anti semitism to date and always miss you to i don't think so. it comes from it from once i see everyone. i know people are coloring the eyes.
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georgia on ish. i agree. yeah. they know there's also is. so the thing is, if you're most effective, you don't experience in the same way to live on even just the people who are affected. so yes, it's something exists just looks, it must be something to it wouldn't. but what's the end design? some 8 percent of germans have extreme right wing world views. anti semitism and hostility towards democracy have both risen shop in recent years. according to the annual report by the re asked information and research center, the number of recorded anti semitic incidents rose by over 80 percent in 2023 compared to the previous year. this is the 1st who did you need to share rios as an attempt to document anti semitic insults, assaults, hostility, and even physical attacks. it also looks at which political issues of the day are seized on as opportunities for anti semitism plus the autism. it is with us to leave him. incidents in germany have multiply and seems to how much terrorist
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attack and israel the increase began on the afternoon of october 7th. according to re ass, over 30 anti semitic incidents have been reported across germany and the months since then every day. so put them to facebook on the stuff, there's no place much let. so i received the rest of the day and i thought i'd give you an insight into the messages that says emails for several months. i guess i'm eager. i'm announcing your moods and does the departure from this? well, do you know how you deserve to die? slowly times is there's no safe place for you here anymore. to him? no was right. you are in theory a human way to be, but these are how much do i regret that my ancestors in 1933 to 45. the go to gas. your was in our shipments. go see it. if i look shina. welcome to another day in the life of produce a cubist alba. this is alice who you spoke to take this. i guess the president of
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the german union of jewish students kind of find a campaigns against anti semitism, especially in germany's even the best it is that alone is enough to expose to hatred and harassment your service. this, it might be that's between you this evening, dodge done, but luckily for them is that i need to emphasize that jewish life in gemini was anything but comfortable. long before all type of the stuff and do this. we grew up with that we used to jewish institutions, synagogues as jewish schools, and kindergarten means that having to be guarded by the police of and then it's not that we just carry on that it doesn't miss strict outlined the restrict my life to my home, say if i speak, it's an event where it's been announced in a drama. what time i'm going to be that? well, i can only do it if i know police will be present. i have a family history that simply won't allow me to give up. i hope i'm the 1st in my family to have a democratic right to vote, democrat slide this time, the 1st in my family who can have a self determined, self confident,
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jewish identity. it subsides to me sometimes when i imagine that someone who didn't even have a gem and possible 3 years ago as someone with this family background. do you mind that i can speak for 25000 young jews? it's not, this tells you just an incredible privilege from the system and offices to the next level homes. it's been after 9 solutions that will simply types gone on. so i was born in vi taps in valerie in 1998. my family came to gemini as jewish refugees in 2005. so i grew up in southern gemini, in boston goods and back in a small town where i was always the only jewish person in the room. and i have a memory of being home sick when i was 3 or 4. my grandma coming to baby sims, baby, so i can still see myself sitting in my childhood beds. i put my grandmother sitting in front of me and up and spouting the conversation with us. and you know,
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when i was your age was my family, how to play and you know, with us on this, i mean, minus got. so one of my earliest memories by the show i was always present in my family, in my family history is on and go out and i can uninvited guests who sits in on old family celebrations. besides this, it was that i've always been very open about the fact that i'm jewish new titles for a long time. it didn't play a large role for me. for 7, i didn't know what to make of them myself. especially when we moved to gemini the of the 1st few years, the focused on other thing. i was suddenly an immigrant child and i had to learn german. my parents didn't see kids on the face. you political migrant experience the shed by many, many people in this country is also shared by many choose because 90 percent of us come from the countries of the former soviet union maquel suffice to add. so give me just a puzzle. when i was the only jewish person in my class, even the subject of judaism was only ever discussed in relation to dead jesus who
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happens. um, so when we talked about jews, it was about something in the past because of when i was the one who became a next the home, the show in cloth because i knew i loved about my grandmother as a so i actually enjoyed giving the presentation about alex smith, i because i knew that i could say more about it, the, my german class made mich filled up on these photography. and i also wonder what history lessons actually look like in a room where most people have never met a living jewish past and understanding julian, because they inhabit them, does less than the apps on them, because that's what in the curriculum office is very abstract for young people 5, if you're lucky, you have committed teachers on how to at least organize a visit to a memorial side on the item to things, stuff, and doesn't organization you name. it is what it is difficult to reach young people . and so was hoping you convey something like this to them. big guy, how can you make something like this understandable?
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here you can understand it, caused by memorial works, a still very important news to most young people in germany, a visit to a memorial scientist at 1st direct contact with national socialism and the show and experienced the can leave a lifelong impression. politicians support this about the expectations a higher says york scrape allied, the director of the flossing bit memorial site. when they bought it in a bag. they expect an educational experience combined with something like an apparition of a highly mary and a good thing to have hopes for catholicism. let's click a visit to a memorial site should create a better person. and that's the idea of different politicians come to us. we're going to mention is making sure that the young people feel that to any of the school, children realize that
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a step more latitude is expected of the me out for life when they come here. when they leave this place, they come with the idea of, let's not do anything wrong. let's start off the wrong question, most of the young and that tends to be a hindrance and so on. this is ian the the of the inside that is on for us bar on this entrance gate was a plot with the words work to set you free the model. that was the motto under which all concentration camps were run. it was a belgian prisoner child. the kaiser arrived here and read up on the work set you free at the entrance. he thought to himself, i can work as much as i want, but they won't let me out of here. so we asked one of the guards, what work set you free meant. the guard said to him, there's a quarry over there. you'll be working for us 12 hours a day. most of it will be very little to eat. you'll become very weak,
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very quickly. you'll die working, you're there. and when you're dead, all that does at all, you'll be free. i'm going to put this the supervise memorial side pedagogy, often chooses a biographical approach to generate empathy among young people. as i said in getting close at 5 spun, a great deal of time has passed since then. it is relatively difficult for young people to see this time is relevant to them. but at the same time, there is a great deal of interest and, and i believe that they understand that this time is still relevant to us today. and so it the only thing to have the impression that this idea is gaining them up is difficult to get enough in flossing, bed the groups look at the past as well as the present from many perspectives via all this work touches on very fundamental humanistic questions uh, questions like, how do we want to live together?
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i can be proud. we accept diversity in our country reactive. how do we deal with people with different identities and biographies with managed? we give them a place and also signed a new coffee and gave me them in plots and on sort of as often as doctors come on that on my off the as if with, you know, i believe these questions can be discussed very well using this historical example for looking at gemini, 90 years ago. ideally, we can provide the emphasis to delve into these topics, resubmit them, typically a trying to do this by using dialogue and all tours on to a much greater extent in recent years. yang for people are involved. they feel they have being taken seriously. you can express their opinions and you wouldn't mind frequency honest getting on tons on in line or what else i found the on the speaking project we're working on now, is the corey and the 3 designs in august. i don't starting the see the flossing boot concentration camp memorial will have access to another historical site. the corey by concentration can prisoners were forced to perform extremely hot labor
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will be integrated into the memorials landscape. planning for a pioneering project called a memory lab is in full swing your scrape of light and his team of creating an experimental learning space. after all, the aim of memorial work is not simply to relay information very much somebody hoffman sunday. this is a hope is that people say leave this place and will perhaps remember this visit yes or even decades late to invest that because there was something special about interest and i don't because you can respond to the come come on, does a flushing do it by heart con, but because of the in town. so with this place on this, i think is what you've experienced here. i left an impression in some way in gauging tallahassee. i forbade my children to go their phone because i can cause re trauma position. how much it doesn't have to, but even it can miss. most of us come up. this is to to come any people say it's too hard for me to be smart, but i didn't think so. it was hard for the people by then for us. it's in the parts
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of dbm to me, but we face it so that we can see what we don't want. what should not have to sort to do it since i think it's good that we've seen it and that we came with school joshua elses yeah. mckenzie. but sometimes if you can imagine the whole situation but so it's not just that you learn, it's at school. you can also feel it's a bit when you're in the place where it happens to job a heavy everything was still there are the sort of seeing and the thing that st. kim and them. uh, it gives you a different perspective on many things in the living is a, is this a very depressing feeling when you're there and what was when you knew what, how from there on. so it's a feeling that's hard to describe and this is coming to prescribe. it looks kind, kind of so not a nice feedback on the homework that happened. there is still projecting the see it is the take it in on all of these, excuse me, in the on my name because i live. so because you called the really imagine what
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happened to the whole mission 1st up samples, adult health concentration cancel. yeah. it's mostly the stucco, for example, the nation. unfortunately, i haven't been there. yeah. the money that i really want to go on by and see the whole a light device on the scanners and you have those on the field on the common. we were given a guided tour on and then we were given a brief explanation of what it was like back then by so. so alice swats on was summit, must eat the smile so that you can see that it was also here and not somebody over there with other people that happened here in our homeland in wins on highmark. just a few decades ago, memorial site visits were not on the agenda. in minus woodside cups is coming up. that did not exist. when i was at school trips to memorial sites, i thought they didn't even exist as places as memorials and stuff that only came about through grass roots initiatives there. and that because basically there was resistance from the population beyond as well as from all the higher levels of
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government from institutionalized, remember, it was at the sites of hor, instict. nobody really wanted that internet on all. and then what this guy wants to 4 times a month. with the end of the 2nd world war, a questionnaire rose was a time to begin to forget. in my opinion, i shouldn't tell the children of the ground. i think that after 14 years we should let things be. it was not enough to national socialist perpetrators and profiteers were integrated into society and government. the dates, but gotten all suppressed fussing. book offers a typical example of how history was dealt with instead of a memorial science in the 19 sixty's housing estate was built on the former concentration camp grounds. people still, if that today the com to that was little interest in remembering dusty happening, sparking this content up to the fact that the prisoners balance of the concentration camp versus doing habits has to be,
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must seem inconceivable for visitors to this thing. tory as a site and the public and lack of tact as obvious as this publish. and dylan operation, some of the thought like this police of suffering, now focus on every get to get there. is this disturbing your office that's definitely never gotten? and since the town of count has a width on everything rights in recent years, it's debatable. it's 5. but i don't think there's any points and remembering the pod gets now that things are on the right track of. i feel it just gets alice of from best to beat the memorial in doc, how was not opened until the 20 years off to the end of the wall. even in schools, it was common practice, the route press the past, brought that then tried to come to terms with it as a report from 1959 shows. but that must have become when asked about national socialism and the hitler, the masses give answers and opinions that are generally based on very poor knowledge by the who knows how many jews died in the 3rd prize and come $13.00 to $33.00. pupils raised their hands it on even on to or through the hard to convers
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honesty. and of course, today we can say that 6 months later on was dressed as an idealized proof that it wasn't just hitler. they were fighting. he says that they show that they were against the entire german people that they had been sol, solved. i thought that they would no longer have accepted any democratic gym and concession choices, though it doesn't even come garnishment. i need to know mehta tests. and these, most of that, i think was what german rememberance was like from 1945 on words. i'm not remembering the victims feels more coming to terms with one's own d, the side of it rather presenting one's self as a victim. i say there was no interest in wanting to remember one's own murders in any way. there was no confrontation of that kind of demit. what do you know about hitler and national socialism? if there was a dictator to a got an a provided work for the unemployed, i built highways out of gone by $1000.00. well, they tell them the hand that it was pretty good to the managers. like the texting
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that was we have now brought out the ship. skipped screen was like what hits the tape was quite good. and it gave 7000000 unemployed workers control, and one fell swoop in the content, but also on the left even were treated crudely and then concentration, the e mail. i don't see until i don't have many choose execute divinely, but a specific number is no, not female. what do you think it's cool, but think about 50000 factors could hold you 215000 close to 5000. hitler headed was what black moustache. he built the highways and the bowlers, the taxi killer was up the precise number of unemployed. people who went back into work is not exactly, it's been almost half a 1000000 souls are written in the textbooks, the total number of jews killed. however, it almost is very often admitted, worst diesel accurately say. what did you learn about recent history at school as it was given fall through the cliff engine, phoenix, heavy and was all very little. i have to say that actually nothing a toll. we didn't learn anything and excuse me. this is what just what was covered in history lessons then next page, next topic and done vonda both fits
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a few sentences about world war 2. then we moved on to egypt with the youth and put my grandfather was in the world to live and could hear the hold all if it all up to 3, blocked old questions at one he was wounded. i have to say we weren't that interested you to input it. we didn't really want to have anything to do with them. some to all the collective is looking away, persisted until the late 198 is it was only through survive initiatives and media attention. but the pressure on politicians increased, but young people as long wanted to know more fest tune up what's and what's the 100 percent? raise their hands for the past. who would like to know more to what you attribute the still an adequate education of our primary and secondary school. people's like, let's be sure that guns. i think in mind that schools generally see recent history is just one subject among others looking they sometimes attach no more importance
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to it than say, the structure of a cell and then pull the life of a rubbing the means of this house. i can only hope the political education will really be taken more seriously in the future than have has in the past. as a full use the switch. this does the for us, it's important that we continue to promote electrical education. then we'll continue to develop education around democratic values in our schools. there were numerous programs and meshes. donald, to me is about enabling young people to experience democracy at a very early age. off i just coast to live the culture of remembrance and all school holmes clue to an oil change within sleep. and it's consecutively, important, the old people's visits and memorial science at some point, while they are still at school out. because only if you know the history, she's the only if we know about the in human crimes of the nazi regime, come, we appreciate the value of democracy comes off the bus is crucial because then we also understand that democracy cannot be taken for granted. and will continue,
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but democracy has to be defended. a new every day loyal so tightest about in most lessons can be learned from history, but which ones are relevant for the present most i'm happy to be able to answer 3 questions. the 1st day is, what does this have to do with me and what does it have to do with my family history? what do my grandfather do? i have is no season, but it has to be done. if you want to understand what your responsibility is in the hearing now, what is the the stands neither you nor i have anything to do with the world war or anything like that on on good our fathers, our grandfathers in grandmother's house, they have nothing to do with that next we have nothing to do with it. next to me is 6125. second question is, what does the jewish life look like today? what does that route aside? these black and white images of what happened of to 1945 associates as opposed to yes months have been that. and when you hear,
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do you simply associated with something totally horrible the system, this is, i don't think it should be like that because these are completely normal people. and i think it's a shame that it always comes into my head as something negative. even though i don't think about it like that, but so simply because the past so bad on right. so let's just go to stagger and then this a question. what does this mean? so my life here right now is assembled. what does the history of this country made months as someone who lives in a democracy, someone who is interested in maintaining that democracy? by the who do i have to do? what can i do? what do i want to do? i should not as something i want to do for the jews on, but what is my active role in this country in this society in this democracy, in these other most of the germany is diverse and multifaceted, with the culture of remember, it is mostly aimed at people without
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a migrant background so we didn't know it goes, it was i was born and grew up in nor code in berlin and went to school that played soccer. the mind goes up to mischief with my friends as a teenager and then light. so i became most seriously of mine is on an individual to go to kind of guns classes, just dust off. i thought my parents came to germany from takia at the end of the 19 sixty's, a typical so called guessed look as, as i grew up in the neighborhood between building zone and natalie and complex process. where there were lots of immigrants with tuckers, co districts. but they will also greeks and you can slots we had a jewish name by that and i know she was a honda costs to buy the costs of the other systems. i might have kim tides were supposed by just remembering my childhood when i played soccer, when we went to a white games in the district division bugs. and we will always told us that there are ne,
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the to increase parents come with the kids in case something happens. call me when did you feel on site, on this one? and that's when i heard the word nazi for the 1st time, we were aware of that this children definitely in the the, the dimensions of the timber that it was when 911 happened in that i realized that something was changing significantly for us to move limbs fall of mainly, but i know we were being seen as muslims, which we haven't been before in that way. although in the same so shribel the, as the most news, i was caught up in a maelstrom of anti semitic conspiracy theories bus. i'd say it was only against muslims, and that it was controlled by a conspiracy that was jewish, and which is the story of this one little fish ruble. israel was a big topic bank. that is, but i had palestinian friends and my cross. that's all just products that it's just pointing to. for some reason you still have to fund these or both. i'd meet with the sweeping generalizations double. they might be one that because i myself,
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itself, it from such sweeping generalizations isn't mostly undesirable. however, as, as most of the, and so i started to look into these issues and i started studying politics and became more and more interested in that. what am i ported since the theater? and so i just don't know if there was somebody else might hear that, and that's when i decided to get some notes from jewish people for the 1st time and have conversations with them. then i quickly got involved in exchange programs and time of initiative as when somebody from the high and just looked at them and i just kept doing the community. the whole scholastic team cavities highs on. she has been chair of the quite spoke initiative against anti semitism for key golf since 2011, with its political education programs teach all works to enable perspective shift create empathy and promote tolerance for different opinions. the team works with pupils, teachers, and most of them communities to reach groups that are otherwise rarely hard
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because then, what are the so a good teacher is one who considers from diversity in their cost in such a way that everyone can have the site. so what com that was kind of where there is no trust was to where there is no emotional relationships kind of, there is no education. my can be something that you can impose knowledge coming up with these days. if you can also do that with good youtube videos, we don't need to school for that. we don't want to import knowledge like mention d unsubscribe. we want people inch and we won't people who believe in themselves. we want people who are oriented towards getting us in community mine. so if you want society okay, and do want democracy because you can step up a civilians at moments when it counts the who are courageous to a cure event for us. that's what we want to equalize school does not in palm know they just school makes people often want us shortly for me to canvass. it sounds
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like a thoughts. we basically have proof of things that edits dialed in this and sheltered . so i believe it was a bit slow with the data, so games are isn't often everyone is accessible. so everyone is open, doesn't just populate children and young people take you out in reference. that's not the appropriate test in kind of publicly criticized very strongly what stomachs but said, i'll throw october 7. these a can to to these children have closed world views assist satisfactorily wrong. can dom children's and also have a closed world view like calm down because they are still in the development by and pick those positive super open to both. these and pull continues. i'll provocative a few and maybe even stupid sometimes they, i'm not always the logical the i'm kind of like i thought of a closed fix. well, few the, they're all good is the don't accept this, tracy, it doesn't seize this opportunity. that's a pity,
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so that you will mention a lawyer in my experience and young people want to play an active role in this as a sort of a name device. they want to be hon. zions, they wouldn't have voices and the stories to have a place and, and i wouldn't accuse young people of having no interest in taking responsibility on how to unplug them to by name or spice. i don't know, you started. i honestly think by default to few protest marches, they need to do more the most most in my opinion on of the advocacy to as a so it so. so there are a lot of people, especially in austria, in germany. me who are quite right wing, as it is not just their political lassitude control is more than just politics, exchange, streaming video game against the 2. i hate not to you. if i may say so open the door, the i the policy and so on. nothing to do with them by the i asked the or the and i also hate anyone who is against foreigners. how so just hire people like that was
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the one all seasoned stuff like that, but not for me trying to destroy the business. the s p d and the greens to not just the, the party people are voting for the, the because the parties in power are pursuing bad policies they're working on is just like the politic escape on these limits. unfortunately, anti semitism and racism still exist. assessing us what i think is good, the, all the demonstrations against the rights are taking place. again, the most common was that the one in munich, mazda, of the invention. so what would actually disagree? because the problem is not primarily vi if the policy, the what is may be asked the so strong in my, in my opinion is the failure of the current government opened. i am just a total and favor of what the students doing. the more they went to voted in the smartest way and mostly about the loop to what the young people are doing is finding, where do i have to attack to get them on my side? where can i convince the women? unfortunately, the other parties simply weren't there yesterday and part time, i'm glad, and a willingness to listen and providing an opportunity to participate
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strengthens interest in a given topic. the fulsome book memorial wants to make use of this in its educational walk we visited or we know going to give you guidelines that you can discuss with each other spaces. but discussion not created in workshops, having dissolved and buildings quick currently running an educational program called we'll see you doing this is it's a simulation gave you. we discussed the civil car, a different actions that could be taken during the nazi era. so through the lens of a desk much the went through the check republicans told us motion so because the news spread quickly through the town as applied to the people coming to the station here, coughing and whimpering from the carriages and about many different voices in different languages and in between the repeated loud come on in, jem, and which of a few minutes not clear how long the train will stop here, it's nothing to say with the information you have. what would you do?
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the other ones because the person you are but as the person you're playing, the person here on this piece of paper inside. so you are seeing it all through the eyes of another person. have doors and have you decide you to right you still debating then try to finish within the next minute. let me try to still apparently of the applies more than anything else. that's interesting. my account or my character. well, me is that i'm just, i'm 73 and i noticed something also. so i'm looking out of my window. it's an occupant as well, and i just observe it someone's talk about that. and that's why i 1st have to see what it is. what's going on i system and whether i can intervene somehow at 73 years comes to the as the others display, even such as picked to being deemed fights. suffice thinking about civil courage
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and options to action in this specific case of it usually becomes clear to the great the topic is not that far away to buy because they themselves also make decisions in some form or another every day. or what do i do? how do i deal with situations and something doesn't suit me soon, and these are situations that we can address in a completely different way here on this. and that's why i have the impression that it does something to them for some of the machine. yeah. the train stops overnight and restrict the decision minister delays the own ver, journey valuable hours in which to take clear action. the people that she democracy freedom, that equality is not something that falls from this guy. note something that god
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given the no matter how you want to explain it, it's something we have to stand up for every day. and that's the task of each and every one of us, this roots this, this will not be regulated by low as the load. it will not be regulated by political statements, even though kind or not shorts, but the, the, the total of shots going to get a big speech like ends royce, that in sight, people have to, well look. so these big stories don't type of furniture as close as i, but it doesn't have to be a big story. in fact, in my opinion, and i'm absolutely convinced of this. les fuller, it's the small things that walk that lead to is big thing was to get up the few up . each of us has a responsibility to ensure that this country remains the democracy, that old people can feel safe in this country. that we can all live self determined lives off the way not exposed to in human ideologies. that's. that's what i want some individuals mission to not for people to look around for someone else to blame
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for the fact that they are doing well. it's not who is to blame for the fact that there is anti semitism in gemini. so, but rather that we should start with ourselves and to ask, how can i contribute to making this country a better place? i was initially just put the plus to come up while i was yes. and it was i look forward to that school, but now i have the feeling that something is wrong. then gets off an act to go to demonstrations if you think racism is appropriate with an off to naples who have suited these roots. for example, if for tech is background off of that one time, how long will you be? i want to get to know you pick it, switch in the lead was big life is encounter. that's not a quote from me. it's from boob. down june. and that's just the point to this
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hosting. so in other words, we don't create an account is in order to break down prejudices that we creates and counts as because that's what it's all about. skip full tire pressure just says prevents in kansas. they make it impossible says be missing. in other words, we have to fight prejudice. done so the thing counselors can take place come get to do. i'll be right with you. hello everyone. i'm 530 nice. yes, i think i'll have one of those companies. you know, i'll take it with me right away. perfect. thank you. the sizes are, well, doesn't i o u h at all as a here for a teen from continue on on the funding. um, these are for storage to get boyd and we started developing this form of assess casino as an educational center 10 or 15 years ago. back then we also so could we
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have a cafe here and coffee and to to do it is it wasn't been done in put something like that fit in a building like this when it's because how to have to be run. i meant to open a cafe that is not a memorials. it could have easy and cafe seems poked into the public and the city the circle for, for state. let's see if mary's e d o. and then the idea of arose relatively quickly because let's do something inclusive as an intentional counts appointments. this is miss long time for a long time for it and still today. it has been one of the most interesting and sometimes also one of the most political places where based an author once was a got a kid, russia, as a business, becomes highest and gets even more illuminating than an educational program over an exhibition on the because people come together here the other would otherwise never meet them and we without cure writing anything but simply opening up a space that made the space available. the best send was the go shapes democracy
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and say, well, the question of how we are as different as we all want to live together to use it so that it's great. and i don't think remembrance was it can have a great to go, you know, it's always going from when you a coma, it's mostly it's about the bottom as well. and then we can simply engage in conversation as we're doing right now with the most. and then perhaps we can work out certain things, we want to say the for this, some people say you're not somebody to say in that name. well, i don't believe that you have to say everything was so in general, low to see everything didn't look like we have a stable democracy even though some people want it to go to. how do we have to accept another opinion on some? i run the business, i don't mean we have hundreds of employees and we try to resolve things democratically every day. look it up. this is an indictment. if you have to play the power card to take regardless of your life situation costume, of course you can do that in smaller then you just roll over everything within dialogue, groups to you. if it's much more exciting for you that kind of life experience and you have to learn to compromise those, we still have to make sure that to get over you the machine is not for my indeed
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you, but i have to be on site with the person i'm talking to is i, as a teacher in front of my people is that is as long as i'm mostly for my jewish conversation partners. me is me. i don't know if this isn't a well to egotism. so then i'm at this point. so any adjustments, so that it works out for me, the, i have to be willing each what's behind the this is never again is to ask nothing if it's not linked to the presence at, in the, remember in politics, the west. nothing. if it means i praise the commemorative stumbling, stone slug home, but the next day i couldn't care less how to use live in this country and never again as the cold to action to fight against anti semitism. that's our understanding of stuff. and of course it goes hand in hand, was fighting for democracy, fighting against racism, fighting against human rights violations of any kind. so this is because we also
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need to understand and to semitism is not just a threat to do. of course, it's 1st and foremost a threat to us, but at the end of the day it's reconciled. democratic co exist honestly. just depends that and there is not one leave on one screw to change this. if we know that this is complex and complicated, hoping that it takes time, the thing is, let's get started. now, i'm fine with and if we want to preserve our democratic order and our children simply have to learn what dictatorship is on for the otherwise we will lose the future remaining. and that's why we can't afford not to be firm on this point. the
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