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a little excited to have to cut off the cabin literally has to buy the most. i remember my mother saying my birth was a light in the darkness, i'm least in the said, don't good height of say it was seen positively nor have we weren't just prisoners to life. cause on its own loss is one of the youngest survivors of auschwitz, the she's been speaking publicly about her experiences for the past 7 years. but today she's guessing the german order of my rights in man, i'm throne. when you suffer trauma, you can't on do it. and you can't result that you learn to live with a burden to integrate it into your life and integrity of industrial,

a long and arduous journey for a phone. who is the person of the hour? the have read that i, they asked me 3 times if i would turn it down and, and how do i ask myself if i really wanted it? i had, he thought about it, and then i realized it's not something everyone get it to be. at least i got it to the it was old and now thought she doesn't lead a quiet life. today she's getting ready for yes, another trip to poland. and so the box you what are you looking forward to my not mostly the people i know in the place. i lived for years for each

a bit as long as the from i use, as i said, this is so i'd be skin saves or not the you get a 1st, the stuff is crack home. and then on to auschwitz, she has been invited to a very special event. the much of the living eva was born in nevada, and neva can force the value in jews. the parents were sent there in 1942 shortie off to their wedding. and mother agnes was 19 when she married, says she, one year old accountant, him who haste the couple had hoped they would not be sent to a lady to come in vain the nonsense is it the same by the inquiry, december 19th during the war in 1942 was a bitterly cold day, though it was minus 20 degrees and the room was on heated the about the midwife

going to wash me after the 1st image provides on a layer of ice, quickly covered the water to sit tight to me, i changed it so the nova key, there was enough food and nobody, even for children, alteration and die was a healthy infant on the zone. this klein, kids all right, but the trains went from there to our shed. it's going straight to the gas. yeah, it did like discuss the family lived in a room and it wouldn't barrack a 1st month. it became pregnant again in 1944, shortly before a 1st 2nd birthday. she and her parents would report it to us, but this is, i fill out this as a place with incredible significance for us. i'm. i'm going to go to alex. we were all supposed to be murdered here by the just because we are jews. forget is that

the older i get, the more i realize this really is the biggest cemetery in the world. it goes to for the tough that each of us move in 50 years old. when she 1st visited ashby it's, she's missing a cost of that. i know hello, i'm very glad to see and then to say, and you the now we're going to the can all come out the to a so it's got to know each other. human illustrates. eva passed to a dock has been a to a guide and the former concentration can for years for years and did students. and this is the place where you arrive time to come see this railroad car for these of are gone, selection we does, you may have been brought here in this exact one. there's about, there were as many as 100 people locked inside for 5 to 6 days at all because 6

target the common um reason we arrived on november 3rd and my mother often told the story that we stood in a long line each time. and i got the number tied to it on my mind to hit because in the tattoo artist took my left arm and i passed out in norman. and that's when i got this number slows on 0, big time should be no, not mine. that is, mine is a 626959 knowing know, since the husband us clicked, we were lucky enough to be the last transport on on this that as part, the gas chambers had stopped working before our transport arrived. i did tell them they've been blown up and that's actually why we survived in to relate. the family

was separated 2 year old if it was sent to dr. use. it's making it as food making. it is the non seductive, famous for carrying out crude experiments on children when the saw on these are they. if we look further in this direction where you see this to me, you see on stage 0. yes, this is the best i was. that's a remnant of the bar, tory where use of megan. they conducted these criminal experiments. january 1945. the red army was approaching. the nazis sent the prisoners on death march is to of the concentration camps, including a 1st father 70 use laser. she finally found out what happened to him. but april and her mother remained in auschwitz. they would too sick to bulk. the red army liberated all shirts on january 27th. 1945. april had infectious tuberculosis, pneumonia whooping cough,

edema from starvation. ricketts and sco yes, this is his mother who also survived searched for her daughter and found her mother mendoza was sent to barrack number 16, a dozen. i'm not them 3. so that was the hospital after the was the provisional one where my sister was born. i might exactly notarize good morning. nora was born in april dunbar and then we stayed for another 6 weeks of my dual credit. and so i did the math up to the middle of june. there was warm then and we had recovered a whole it got well enough to work on those. even though from content, nora was given russians, powdered milk, and thrived on come to get them. my mother was also able to walk to bind the gate. and then we left the ocean, which camp and headed towards slovakia, pointing in towards the trend to mckyrie the french her father's home town.

they covered the 200 kilometers on foot all by hitch hiking. nobody in trenching talked about it. but everyone knew what had happened a 1st month as such, full family members. but they were all dead sea had said so she tried not to cry, degrees canal and she wanted to look to the future because she had 2 small children that she had to see if she could get her life back on track and feed into the sport . creek a so grew up in time she, she has fun memories of his school days and her childhood friends. so is being void and the borders opened and there was no longer an iron curtain. i was one of the 1st here from the f, the, the he is visa is needing an old school friend on the market square today. is each come way uh this, this, this is uh oh,

this is the thing with god. last they have most of the we often met on the way to school and walked together some in april, not going to school. she was in vicious and got good grades. and she made friends that she still keeps in touch with today. the cecilia auto body, they, i was sick a lot in my 1st 2 years. that's going home. uh, because an ocean it's your star and number is from sick and it impacts your whole life is going to lead me to have me as i recovered. but it lingered not, and that goes back to the beginning. i me to i'm in for an invoice for oh, you are either given an empty or a full basket with a little cardboard. i'm 48. so some of them it on, on the jewish man, they married in 1949. arnold took care of his new family and many things became

easier for a 1st month in an old was devoutly to ish, but the family did not deliver religious life. they were afraid to be opened to is the his stepfather go to dodge with tubman for the family ava strand fed or live just a few houses away so. so this was your home wasn't a whole lot. yeah, yes. i was at home here for many years to the visa instead of getting stuck around the door, bell is broken. i think it's a key scholar.

yes. what's your name? you go to a go to ask them if i'm eva. my last name was hashed. my mother and father were tyranny my art seems to log sierra need. so for me it's a visa, this is i don't. that was good for everyone. good for our parents. good for us. all school. so it was, they tell me is that your lamp doesn't look like your old lamp. yes. you have someone else. can i go in there? that was my sister's in my room. oh, yes. go in jacket and taking me home. life was off intends for. if his parents were afraid that they might be persecuted again for being too harsh people, so we knew exactly what we could say outside and what we should only stay at home. jesus, you don't talk like that in front of strangers. a david managed must month what you

cook at home, did you eat at home? the walls have years or we heard things like the daily via scene. we basically went from the brown dictatorship to the red dictatorship comment. the communists were big anti semites. there was always a reason to be afraid. team a girl. no, i'm so hot. be careful. don't stand out a less than a thought and has to spend any on the april into projects now the off to graduation. she wanted to become a pediatrician. slauson because i think my whole life experience influenced my career choice cloud, but i think on consciously so i already had a desire to make children healthy, who came back as soon. so my age, i felt at home in process of studying medicine was easy for

me. this is my university i enrolled here, that's an incredibly important memory on who is at risk to get in that room. but she was to a degree in 1966 by falling in love with you all come from the other side of the iron coast and 16 years have seen. yeah. they have most kind of glen. we met on vacation on and he said he would come to brought his love to visit me comes not but i just found it. so i didn't leave him because it came in. i didn't believe him because i knew what it was like at the border of it after, but he actually did come and returned every 14 days hawk. it was a punish jewish survivor with a construction company in munich and about that there was the same was older and more experience on and you took

a relationship very seriously and wanted the em skin norman hot on board, had done nevada. he was also an adviser for me after he was also the one who wanted to get married. it does, and the only thing i wanted was to pass the state exam, the visa and lived in student tombs. and eva, who had never wanted to stand out, was suddenly the focus of someone's attention in reference to the eastern my in the last year of my studies, my husband came to visit me sign and met say just he parked in front and has mercedes each day is going to be for the, for the woman at the gate, it was, as they say, an easy mark. and then i'd see me come, she took the microphone and announced over the loud speakers. but i said, eva hush told bush should please come to the gate or because the western mercedes was waiting for her to be sure, and the status of that scared me. me. me

a gross on said one of the secret police also noticed a full was called in for questioning done. how may i ask if they asked me who he was. he had quoted the and they said they had looked into him that he was married and had a family in munich. they tried everything just boil. my appetite may have been a bit did so fed them eva was summoned again and again. they tried to intimidate, she feared his sister wouldn't be allowed to finish his studies, or that her parents would be arrested. the then you can only get rid of the fear once the problem is solved, problem is way into solve a problem. you have to grab the bull by the horns. i often say you can't be afraid forever on for me, this meant getting married. an integrated is known as mazda

h. i graduated became a doctor, and married you all come and brought the silva in 1966. when i'm in there in an indian kind when they knew that they couldn't scare me. they said, well, if you're going sleepy, very happy. if you could come back with information on certain people here, wednesday or friday and then or if, if that didn't work, because i didn't, and i'm going to get married. now, i'm going to start a family and i won't have any time for information to type have them in and you're going to back in april moved to munich and february 1967 and his son eric was born. 7 months later, the small family lived in the upscale shopping neighborhood. the have to, alas, i had every single revolt, a beautiful apartment inch bobbing. i drove the mercedes, but that wasn't my goal. i want it to be a doctor and i want it to wherever bites. but the lead physicians in munich had

other ideas. eva was a wife and a mother, and belonged at home. not in the hospital. for the house at all, i was suddenly a housewife. connect that i realized i wasn't getting as much work as i thought i would if i could call maybe make it the i also had problems with the language and was all news, but i know that it was disappointing for me. i just bought and sold them, signed by somebody else. so sometimes i was also very sad because i was actually alone here. here. i didn't have any relative and i didn't have my friends in the nice the it's a tried everything she could to get a job. but she was only allowed to work as an unpaid guest doctor in unix, children's hospitals. then something totally unexpected happened in 19 c

h. e. 's us as to nora and the parents also moved to munich a temporary reprieve. and the i'm cousin allowed them to emigrate. if it was happy to have a family back unhappy that they were all living in the same city again. if his husband also decided to build a house got in people some sort of land in the neighborhood, popular with doctors, businessman and celebrities and the honda clinic way for what as an intern for say to this is how i never went to that house. we had a nice department in shopping and everyone was happy. everyone was contented. so for me, who needs a house house reason i can get some of this. how we moved in the house wasn't finish at all that he was eager for us to move in as it was a deep desire. v i n is zane. we lived in it for 6 week 6th, and i haven't been given yak up. and if i had invited friends to

a house swimming policy, see for the women were upstairs and the men were downstairs. and at half past 10 in the evening, there was a crash downstairs on as a blunt object had fallen don't for one second. and it's done me from head to toe, august. awesome, fun only. so do you know that i knew the feeling is that something has happened? you can test a see a disorder. so y'all, cup was demonstrating exercises on the parallel rings to his friends. he slipped and hit his head on the tile. fitzsimmons, how a crew went to her last in the hospital. the dams and state x rayed his school and found a bass or schools fracture, select fiscal stairs from there to there with a gaping head wound and cut off in the state of london

is being i went to the hospital the next day and he was already unconscious and didn't recognize me. he lived for 11 more days as tech men. so you look for explanations, but find on the yeah, eva was 27 years old underwood and she had to pay off the mortgage on the house and, and money. her parents helped and also took care of a like the she finally got a job at the honda thing, childrens hospital click it to counter it was one of her co workers. hello. hello a so so nice to see you here. go through hello. this is shipping from

fish 50 years of her last name. childrens hospital. so its been that long uh, shell, look to i still know the train. i don't recognize anything else. that's the only thing that's left. not complete. a thought unplug it. so with 2 of the few women doctors at the time they had to set themselves in a man's world. it brought them closer together. ringback especially as to fortunately it was because when i had my 1st interview, the official, the main doctor said to chauffeur that yes i like you except for what i don't like it best made me just let you not a man came on and at the beginning of a completely new phase of a fuss lice she had to showcase the i could see if she really fit in very well because she was smart. was a hug because she just came to us and worked. and she didn't have any german

friends. she only had slovakian friends and friends of her husband and a month then that she always invited us home every week. and that's how friendship somehow developed to the full inch of don't fill me fiddling around. you wanted to film the house, click it to make these videos. as of you have we experienced a lot together, leap, weddings, baptisms, funerals, whatever life brings the semester. so they've been putting a time in late. april was a single mother who worked full time. she didn't have much time to grief. finish to sleep now. so when i look at life these 80 years, it never stopped by mistake. ask that there was never a 1st or last disruption of it so long in months. but as long as you can still do things,

not everything goes smoothly. then even if you want it to often run this semester. it was 4 years old when his mother started working at the clinic. he's now 56. he's lived in new york for over 20 years and there's only randy in munich box. he's in munich today with his family. it's a fuzz 80th birthday. oh really? i mean i just have to be a just to celebrate every tense big list for the planning, the 90 s and 100 students. yeah. the quote zip where

the to what's your birthday? wish my birthday is to be healthy and to survey any of the 998 has family. doesn't want her story to be for gossen, but she didn't talk about it for years. and young uh nothing came up when i was young likes between 5 and 7 o 6. i already knew that the past with some have different backups, but they're also a few care memories. i have a few of them and they tell people, i think i was maybe 11 or 12 and i was in the car with my mother to talk to them. i wanted to draw a family tree. and i asked her if that would be a good idea to duncan within 2 minutes to explain why it wasn't a good idea. because so many people have died in the war and they go to a site. and so for the, for starting something creek, that's just one of the powerful memories i have some time tonight and i think no

one indeed help a. so i fell in love again nearly 2 years of to the death of her 1st husband with someone from work bound of a can you. they wasn't jewish shorts and he was german. well his mother was the check and we don't really know who his father was. as a but it was problematic problem even when we got married, we've done my step father really didn't want me to marry a german c n. n dodge. neither did my 1st husband's family. the whole thing had a difficult beginning. flooded and said, i get both diesel got fixed but if it was under 10, she wanted just dont as the destination meets bent life with burnt was always different and interesting on he was very funny here his side . he spoke several languages. he was well read the list but i me and about and he

didn't just fall in love with me but also with eric, eric was 5 years old then for the valve in eric eric, i've done my suv. ya. i mean there was like a father to me growing up to the box and we play soccer together. who's but he made sure that i did when at school. yeah, we went skiing, come up to see what the initial of august. and she finally got lots of things to be paid and was also mountaineering, which was always something he really liked. i think my mother secretly hated it. yeah, i mean, he still has taught inbound. had 2 more sons. well knew that if i had been in auschwitz but it didn't say a major role, julian is the youngest. unlike his older brother, he was unaware of his mother's past. seeing this time

until i was 10 or 12 the how the cost was never discussed, never, not even with my grandmother. and i don't know if i didn't hide had cost, but she didn't talk about it much either. not even with the friends in stine, i'm qsi, a germantown, she remembers functioning as a style of the i going to be my husband and i actually got married and just telling you that i now it feels like home to house that we celebrated christmas here, a lot with them. i didn't get science spending less time together created friendships that have lasted over 50 years on the visits to get a dollar balance. best friend, once ranch, low stein, a boarding school, high, high bus to nice to be back here, late or should be there to sign? hardly are 1st time. yes, my true as his service, the best dan now manages the school. the

turn does it does. if i knew we were young, we had small children and we had parties defy it. but i was actually pretty exhausted afterwards. my now, i remember julian drenching himself with the hose and had no he didn't drench himself. he watered the garden for 3 hours. after the 1st 10 minutes i got really nervous body, sir. i thought angie was going to turn to me and say that's enough. he had, but she didn't say anything. he was happy and she was glad for the peace and quiet you make a difference in parenting styles, dr. or loved? yeah. big difference a valid the web games. if of life didn't have room for the topic of auschwitz, then the but that changed when she became pregnant with you, the pos caught up with her nightmare

haunted her sleep. to him for a task come in, i've seen gas chambers full of babies. do you mind i've seen children being torn apart and thrown into oven skin now if he does, that's exactly how it was described, needs be still books. these the root that's known of investment, but it didn't come up at all with the 1st pregnancies and song his have then came the 3rd child to pick is ralph nation out to donald comes from that. i think the nightmare has disappeared off to his bath and she didn't have time to think about them. today's the full 3 children house and her when she went into private practice as a pediatrician, she also trained as a psych affairs profession. she continues to work in today. she trains

mainly with jewish psychotherapists. many have been in concentration camps and researching the effects of trauma like mazda cos, another saliva. let's wish i had somebody know i could see she saw my number and she said she had to tell me, i just thought you were there to not i didn't know that astonished divorced. and i mean that i worked with her for many years. the h, as mother became depressed near the end of her life, eva was convinced the memories from auschwitz were waiting on her to the she and her sister, nor

a wanted to help, but didn't know how. her mother refused to talk about it. a silence she held until death. this is the last member of our original family. died homes for me, the good stuff and we are the continuation. so we are a bridge between the war and the post war period to excite a. so didn't want to become even more of it and doing her mother's final use. she never told her that her marriage was stating that button allow me to zuber together for a long time team and we were a good team is a couple, but the marriage fell apart. and you know, in the end, several things always play

a role, fucked toward it didn't work anymore. but i'm for those. and i kind of realize that in my head, you're going to me them cough, but get a from a for filed for divorce of to 23 years. throat stay below, but i still think i found the divorce very hard to bear initially i'm i'm hung specialist, i felt cut in half food to me. so one half was missing out the hub. it, i not in the head of tickets, and that was certainly true for the 1st 2 years seem to been here when i think about it now. the s and so i yacht then she adjusted and sold into a new life. and alice with surfaced again, she was often 2011 if she would give a speech on the anniversary of the caps liberation. she started events, so i always refused, but then reconsider. so that i finally realized, i'm doing it in reverse on how i should think about it before i refused this problem. i talked to my children mainly eric, he said, you know, mom, you've got

a chance to be the youngest. you should take a design concept. us with a name and a so i agreed she spent weeks fine tuning her speech for january 27th. the 2nd time and honest with some she was liberated the smart that was the most important speech of my life. the 1st ocean of speech, which was only 5 minutes smoking size, i feel bad. i was cold inside, outside. returning to this place alive, rick cast live, bending the she then goes back into her life in munich. but 3 years later, she finally began to confront what had happened to her family. at 71, she suffered a heart attack on her way home from shopping. she dragged herself up the stairs and

called an ambulance she survived and finally decided to tell his story. now i'd be excited for me. you no longer have time to wait. yeah. either do it into the forgetting. and if it gives us a for one to 2 vice a book about his family. she had to do her own research since her mother had told her very little about that time. and she needed someone to help her. right. the villain, olsa and historian, stephanie aust, but has since become a good friend and no my dear in nor even imagine a norm is how you face. so at 1st it was quite practical and therefore not being alone. law interacting with the many dead people in our family for us money in

those that are familiar hot visa and stephanie were on the road for weeks. they travelled to all shirts, israel and the us. they search the archives everywhere for clues about 8, for some of the decent fronts of this friendship is now 8 years old, and its only getting better. and because we were lucky to find each other, had some glue to meet the f bomb. first stuff i brought to you back, can you guys? oh, i had completely forgotten about these 2. and so i was me. so what impressed me so much was the visit to ya discussion. in the same role via the 1st time we sat in front of a computer that was supposed to give us see data about people from my mother's style. he pa, zone and from my media, my name, what? and it rattled and got out one piece of paper after another p and left him on the

on he said to and this woman to fill out a devout jewish hum, gary and woman asked on that to you so me. okay sir. just be stool. and now you said yes, the sec yeah. where do you live? like i said in unit oh with gemini, she said, and she judged me so harshly that i dare to come here. and that i dared to live in germany with the history that i even came to the archives indulgence that shocked me, had missed them. i felt really bad. being scolded by her. from there i was cushions . it's a finally learned what happened to her family. she found out that her father had suffice to death, much from auschwitz, but then died of blood poisoning in the concentration camp in mount austria in 1945 skiing it on of miss school. she often didn't feel well or the 1st talk. she had

strong physical reactions and physical call, for example, she had coughing, fits and really didn't sleep for several nights and coughed into. but she's incredibly disciplined. and you could tell the whole time she was working that she wanted to know if she wanted to go through it and she pushed herself to where limits is but she went through it. and the interesting thing for me now in retrospect is that you can also see that something changed within her that we had to do. she no longer had all the heart problems. she used to say that she also no longer had long problems, changed her poster as crazy as that sounds. think, officer and that eva wrote the book, not only for himself, but also for her children and grand daughters. her own mother couldn't talk about her time in auschwitz because she couldn't bear it. but she paused on her experiences as an emotional legacy that i think both 3 of

them were murdered in the concentration camp and go to florida. and my mother was the only one who survived for me, it's just a lot about our family legacy generally, and kind of how important all i was experiences and comes here and see these photos . i think it's just really important for us in terms of understanding more about ourselves and our identity as mother never raised her children to hate the germans . despite their experiences and the cost the most, it does money. and i would like people to somehow not use the word for gas and notes tardies because i hate that i can forgive of it, but you can still live together. you can delete and not only live, but also become friends. and the children can continue to have friendships because otherwise we'll never get rid of this and tugging isn't leaking on. the nice thing

is this book made his famous and she's very so soft as one of the youngest survivors. she was invited to auschwitz by the international, much of the living organization is around here. i've been here several times, but i've never seen such a crowd of young people. there are 8000 here now. policy and memorial much has been held and illustrates once a year since 1988 survivors work together with young people from different countries from alphabets to bit canal to commemorate the debt and celebrate tonight. at the end of the march, april recounted her family story to 1300 young austrians until the

dispute is titled a life with the ruins of ocean and finally meeting one ton of august. 12 years have paused since her 1st speech in auschwitz. she has given count this lectures and readings in this 13 k. for me, he's obviously for me, i wish that is a traumatizing part of my biography, but i see an emotional legacy. and this has not ended with me in mind as zone nice, but ended unlike as the, as passed on from one generation to the neck. i'm making that i'd soon to me i have to make sure that this legacy is not passed onto my son's niece. my grand daughter's or those around me have my the inc kelly name or the of my own. so it is a key. thank you for your attention to you and for your openness to my difficult

word. often i could get neither my name of the to the head of a sudden i will see it over the weekend stuff and i've never seen so many people clapping for me. this is the 1st time he gets it and thank you. yeah, thank you. and may i say something quickly might talk, you were deported from sarah the 2 days after our great grandmother. and she also survived documents were very moved by 2, sorry, nice. thank you very much for your work the the try. otherwise, i'll start going to choose to be your story really touched me. it gave me such

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