tv I Survived Auschwitz Deutsche Welle January 27, 2025 10:15am-11:01am CET
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breaking documentary, telling the incredible story of eva, one of the youngest survivors of the house it's disc. that's incredible story coming up after the breakdown. anthony housing building. stay with this. if you get the somewhere in the deserts between geneva, our investigative research shows the realities behind the use re p t d. us chevy? migration policy starts february 15th on dw. the probably to cause i'm being award is a german merritt cross today. i'm
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a little excited to have the kid and natalie has to buy the most. i remember my mother saying my birth was a light in the darkness, i'm least in the said, don't good height of say it was seen positively nor have we weren't just prisoners . life cause on its own loss is one of the youngest survivors of our shipments. the she's been speaking publicly about her experiences for the past 7 years, but today she's guessing the german order of marriage. in man, i'm throne. when you suffer trauma, you can't on do it. and you can't result that. you learn to live with a burden to integrate it into your life and integrity of industrial is
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a long and arduous journey for a phone. who is the person of the hour? the me that i, they asked me 3 times if i would turn it down. and then how do i ask myself if i really wanted to have you thought about it from that, then i realized it's not something everyone get it to be out. there will be, at least i got it to the it was old and now thought she doesn't lead a quiet life today. she's getting ready for yes. another trip to poland. and so the box you what are you looking forward to my not mostly the people i know in the place. i lived for years for each or a bit as long you need for my use. as i said,
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this is so i'd be skin saves or not they, you get a 1st, the stuff is crack oh. and then on to auschwitz, she's been invited to a very special event. the much of the living eva was born in nevada and neva can 1st of the voc induce the parents was sent there in 1942 show t off today. wedding and mother agnes was 19 when she married says she one year old accountant, him who haste the couple had hoped they would not be sent too late to come in vain to nonsense. is it the same? an inquiry december 19th, during the war in 1942 was a bitterly cold day. though it was minus 20 degrees and the room was on heated. the
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hey bought the midwives going to wash me after the 1st vice on a layer of ice quickly covered the water. sit tight to me, i changed it so the nova key there was enough food and no viking, even for children, alteration and die. it was a healthy incident on the zone, this klein kin right. but the trains went from there to ouch. that's going straight to the gas. yeah. in the like these costs. the family lived in a room and it wouldn't barracks if those mother became pregnant again. in 1944, shortly before a 1st 2nd birthday. she and her parents would of course it to us, but i'm glad this is a place with incredible significance for us. i'm. i'm going to go to the alley. we were all supposed to be murdered. here by the just because we are jews. sonya is
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that the older i get, the more i realize this really is the biggest cemetery in the world. it goes to for the tough that if it was move in 50 years old, when she 1st visited ashby, it's, she's missing a cost of that. i know hello. i'm very glad to see me then she was saying, and you the now we're going to the can ok now. yeah. ok the to a so it's got to know each other human auschwitz, eva passed to a dock has been a to a guide and the former concentration come for years present. it's direct and this is the place where you arrived time to come see this railroad car. these are, are gone, selection we does. you may have been brought here in this exact one. there's a lot, there were as many as 100 people locked inside for 5 or 6 days at all because 6
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target the common um, the reason we arrived on november 3rd and my mother often told the story that we stood in a long line lies them and i got the number tied to it only bind to hit because in the tattoo artist took my left arm and i passed out in norman. and that's when i got this number slows on 0, big time should be no, not mine. that is, mine is 86269599. know since the this click we were lucky enough to be the last trans point on, on this task part, the gas chambers had stopped working before our transport arrived. i did tell them they've been blown up and that's actually why we survived in to relate. the family
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was separated 2 year old if it was sent to dr. use. it's making it as food making a is the non seductive, famous for carrying out crude experiments on children when the saw on these are they, if we look further in this direction, where you see this to me, you see on stands in. so yes, this is ernest, i was that's a remnant of the bar, tory where use of meg, and they conducted these criminal experiments. january 1945. the red army was approaching, the nazis sent the prisoners on death march is to of the concentration camps, including a post father 70 use laser. she finally found out what happened to him. but april and her mother remain in auschwitz. they would too sick to bulk. the red army liberated all shirts on january 27th. 1945. april had infectious to the
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closest pneumonia, whooping cough, edema from starvation. ricketts and sco yes, this is as mazda will survive, searched for her daughter and found her mother mendoza was sent to barrack numbers . 16 doesn't, i'm not, i'm sorry. that was the hospital after the was the provisional one where my sister was born on my exactly notarized board. nina nora was born and april, done, and then we stayed for another 6 weeks of my dual credit. and so i did the math up to the middle of june. it was warm then and we had recovered a whole it. i got well enough to work on those even though from content. nora was given russian powdered milk and thrived on come to get there. my mother was also able to walk the buying to get and then we left the outfits camp and headed towards slovakia funding in towards trend to mikaya from french. her father's home town.
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they cover the 200 kilometers on foot all by hitch hiking. nobody in trend seen, talked about it, but everyone knew what had happened. a 1st mothers search to family members, but they were all that she had said, so she tried not to cry degrees. wow. and she wanted to look to the future because she had 2 small children that she had to see if she could get her life back on track and feed into the sport creek. a. so grew up in time she. she has fun memories of his school days and her childhood friends as far as being void and the borders opened and there was no longer an iron curtain. i was one of the 1st to hear back from them as they meet the he is meeting old school friends on the market square today. each god boy, uh this,
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this, this is uh, this is the thing they have most of the we often met on the way to school and walked together some in april, not going to school. she was in vicious and got good grades. and she made friends that she still keeps in touch with today. the so the out of body they, i was sick a lot in my 1st 2 years. that's going home. uh, because an ocean it's your star, an underaged. i'm sick and it impacts your whole life is going to lead me to hear me. i recovered, but it lingered not. and that goes back to the beginning. i mean, since i'm in funding or stroke, you're either given an empty or a full basket with a little cardboard. i'm 48, so some of them it on, on a jewish man. they married in 1949. arnold took care of his new family
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and many things became easier for a 1st month in donald was developed the 2 ish but the family did not deliver religious life. they were afraid to be opened the jewish, the his stepfather go to dodge with tubman for the family. ava strain fed or live just a few houses away so. so this was your home. it wasn't a whole lot. yeah, yes. i was at home here for many years to the visa and say to conduct around the doorbell is broken. i think it's a key. yes. the scholar.
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yes. what's your name? you go to you go to ask them if i'm eva. my last name was hashed my mother and father were tyranny. my art seems to log she had a need tells me to revise this letter. that was good for everyone. good for our parents. good for us. old school. so it was a tell me is that your lamp doesn't look like your old lamp? yes. yeah. be so what else can i go in? that was my sister's in my room. oh yes. go in there. yeah. couldn't take me home. life was off intends for a for his parents were afraid that they might be persecuted again for being jewish people. so we knew exactly what we could say outside and what we should only say at home. jesus, you don't talk like that in front of strangers. the latest managed last month. what
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you cook at home, did you eat at home? the walls have years or we heard things like the daily via scene. we basically went from the brown dictatorship to the red dictatorship comment. the communists were big anti semites. there was always a reason to be afraid. team a girl. no, i'm so hot. be careful. don't stand out unless and eva and has to spend any on the april into project sonata, off to graduation. she wanted to become a pediatrician. slauson because i think my whole life experience influenced my career choice. east allow that i think and consciously. so i already had a desire to make children healthy, who came back as soon as i felt at home in process of
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studying meds and was easy for her this is my university. i enrolled here, that's an incredibly important memory on his wrist in that room. but she was to a degree in 1966 by falling in love with you all come from the other side of the iron coast and 16 years have seen. yeah. they have most kind of glen. we met on vacation on and he said he would come to brought his love to visit me. come not, but just about me. so i didn't leave him clock him in. i didn't believe him because i knew what it was like at the border of it after, but he actually did come and returned every 14 days hawk. it was a punish tours. the volume with a construction company in munich and wrap that through the city was older and more experienced on. and you took our relationship very seriously and wanted the em
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skin norman hot on board, had done nevada. he was also an advisor for meet the advent of that. he was also the one who wanted to get married. it does aren't. the only thing i wanted was to pass the state exam. if i lived in student tombs and eva who had never wanted to stand out, was suddenly the focus of someone's attention in nursing, shooting the eastern my in the last year of my studies, my husband came to visit me sign and met say just he parked in front and has mercedes stays on the for the, for the woman at the gate. it was, as they say, an easy mark. and then i'd say, because she took the microphone and announced over the loud speakers. but at that, eva hush told bush should please come to the gate or because the western mercedes was waiting for her to be sure and the status of care and that scared me.
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me 2 girls on said one of the secret police also noticed a full was cold in for questioning done how do they meet us? give them. they asked me who he was. he had called the and they said they had looked into him that he was married and had a family in munich. they tried everything just boil, my appetite may have been updated, so fed them eva was summoned again and again. they tried to intimidate her. she feared, has just, it wouldn't be a now to finish her studies, or that her parents would be arrested then you can only get rid of severe once the problem is solved, problem is way into solve the problem. you have to grab the bull by the horns of capital. i often say you can't be afraid. forever on for me, this men getting married an immigrant is known as mazda h. i graduated became
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a doctor, and married you all come and brought the silva in 1966, put them in there in an indian kind when they knew that they couldn't scare me. they said, well, if you're going, we'd be very happy if you could come back with information on certain people here, wednesday or friday and then or if, if that didn't work, because i didn't, and i'm going to get married. now the, i'm going to start a family and i won't have any time for information to try to have them in and you're going to back in april, move to munich, and february 1967 and his son eric was born 7 months later, the small family lived in the upscale shopping neighborhood. we have to alice, i had every single new phone, a beautiful apartment inch bobbing. i drove the mercedes, but that wasn't my goal. i want it to be a doctor and i want it to wherever i buy it. but the lead physicians in munich had
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other ideas. eva was a wife and the mother and belonged at home. not in a hospital for the house at all. i was suddenly a housewife. connect that i realized i wasn't getting as much work cuz i thought i would if i could call maybe make it the i also had problems with the language and was all news, but i know that it was disappointing for me. i just bought and sold them trying to buy a house that sometimes i was also very sad because i was actually alone here. here . i didn't have any relatives, and i didn't have my friends in the t a for tried everything she could to get a job. but she was only a now to work as an unpaid guest doctor and unix, children's hospitals. then something totally unexpected happened in 1968 if us has to. nora and the parents also have moved to munich
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a temporary reprieve. and the i am could us and allow them to immigrate. if it was happy to have a family back unhappy that they were all living in the same city again. if his husband also decided to build a house, not here, people have lots of land in the neighborhood, popular with doctors, businessman and celebrities. and the honda clinic way for what as an intern was say to this is how i never one at that house. we had a nice department in shopping and everyone was happy. everyone was contented. so for me, who needs a house house? isn't i get some of this? how we moved in the house wasn't finish at all that he was eager for us to move in as to what the deep desire v i n is zane. we lived in it for 6 weeks. 6th, i'm a didn't give one yak up and a. so i had invited friends to
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a house swimming policy chief and on the women were upstairs and the men were downstairs on high end at half past 10 in the evening. there was a crash downstairs on as a blunt object had fallen don't per tire one second. and it's telling me from head to toe august. awesome. fun. only be on. do you know that uneasy feeling that something has happened? you're going to see if this or just so you all cope was demonstrating exercises on the parallel rings to his friends. he slipped and hid his head on the tile. financing is how i kind of went to her last in the hospital, the dams and se x rayed his school and found a bass or schools fracture, select fiscal stairs from there to there. with a gaping headphone time coughing to say to funding
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is being i went to the hospital the next day and he was already unconscious and didn't recognize me. he lived for 11 more days as pac man. so you look for explanations, but find on oh yeah, eva was 27 years old underwood and she had to pay off the mortgage on the house and, and money. her parents helped and also took care of a like the she finally got a job at the honda thing, childrens hospital click it to counter it was one of her coworkers. hello. hello a so, so nice to see you here. go see, this is from 50 years of
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holla, children's hospital. so it's been that long. uh, shell, look. i still know the train. i don't recognize anything else. that's the only thing that's left. not complete. a thought unplug it. so with 2 of the few women doctors at the time they had to assess themselves in a man's world. it brought them closer together. ringback this specific as to, fortunately i was when i had my 1st interview, the official, the main dr. santo's, the schiffer that yes i like you except for when i don't like it back to me you just that you're not a man kind mountains. and at the beginning of a completely new phase of a fast life. so you had to focus, we all could see if she really fit him very well. because she was smart, was a hug because she just came to us and worked. and she didn't have any german
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friends, she only had slovakian friends and friends of her husband and then that she always invited us home every week. and that's how a friendship somehow developed to the full inch of don't tell me fiddling around you wanted to film the house, click it to make these videos. as of you have we experienced a lot together, leap, weddings, baptisms, funerals, whatever life brings us to sleep and think till time in kind of like a phone was a single mother who worked full time. she didn't have much time to grief vinnish because even on so when i look at life these 80 years, it never stopped. i need to ask that there was never a 1st or last disruption of it so long in months. but as long as you can still do things,
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not everything goes smoothly. then even if you want it to run this semester. it was 4 years old when his mother started working at the clinic. he's now 56. he's lived in new york for over 20 years and there's only randy in munich. a box. he's in munich today with his family. it's a fuzz 80th birthday. oh really? i oh, hi. how are you today? good. how are you? i'm just happy ages to celebrate every 10th big for the planning the 90 if and 100 soon. yeah. this the cool sick where
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the to what's your birthday wish my birthday is to be healthy and to serve reading day and he has a 998. so somebody doesn't want her story to be for gossen, but she didn't talk about it for years. and your last name when i was young likes between 5 and 7 o 6. i already knew that the past with some have different backups in most, but there are also a few clear memories i have you have and then they tell people, i think i was maybe 11 or 12 and i was in the car with my mother to talk to them, because i wanted to draw a family tree and i asked her if that would be a good idea to don't get within 2 minutes to explain why it wasn't a good idea. because so many people have died in the war and they go to sleep. so for a lot starting something, treat us just one of the powerful memories i have sometimes not. and i think of
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them indeed help a so i fell in love again nearly 2 years after the death of her 1st husband with someone from work bound is a can you day wasn't jewish show it's and he was german. well, his mother was the check and we don't really know who his father was as a, but it was problematic problem. even when we got married, we don't get my step father really didn't want me to marry a german see, i'm indulged. neither did my 1st husband's family. the whole thing had a difficult beginning flow and said, i get both diesel got fixed. but if it was under 10, she wanted to start of the destination for me to spend my life with burnt was always different. and interesting on he was very funny here. besides, he spoke several languages. he was well read the list but me and about and he
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didn't just fell in love with me but also with eric and eric was 5 years old then for the stuff out in eric eric, i've done my suv. ya. i mean there was like a father to me growing up in a box and we played soccer together. who's but he made sure that i did when at school. yeah, we went skiing, come up to see who the initial of august. and she finally got lots of things activity. it was also mountaineering, which was always something he really liked, but they thought, i think my mother secretly hated it. yeah, i'm just yeah. hosta isa and found had 2 more sons. belle knew that eva had been in el shirts, but it didn't say a major role. julian is the youngest. unlike his older brother, he was unaware of his mother's past. scene this time until i was 10 or 12 the how the cost was never discussed, never,
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not even with my grandmother. mental visa didn't hide, has cost, but she didn't talk about it much either. not even with the friends in stine, i'm qsi, a jim in town who remembers funding as a stein, as i can, my husband and i actually got married and just on you to the us to now it feels like how to, how is it that we celebrated christmas here a lot with them. i've been in defiance spending less time together created friendships that have lasted over 50 years on the visits to get a dollar balance. best friend once ranch la stein, a boarding school hi. hi, boss does nice to be back here late, or should be that so sign hardly your 1st time. yes, my true. that's to see his son is the best in now man, which is the school. oh
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lucy turn does it does. if i knew we were young, we had small children and we had parties defy it. but i was actually pretty exhausted afterwards. i remember really and drenching himself with a hose that has the hearing. no, he didn't drench himself. he watered the garden for 3 hours. after the 1st 10 minutes, i got really nervous about it. i thought angie was going to turn to me and said that's enough he had, but you didn't say anything that he was happy and she was glad for the peace and quiet a difference in parenting styles. dr or loved? yeah, big difference. so salad, the rogue goodness. it is life didn't have room for the topic of auschwitz, then the but that changed when she became pregnant with you, the on pause caught up with her nightmare
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haunted her sleep. him for a task come in, i've seen gas chambers full of babies. do you mind? i've seen children being torn apart and thrown into oven skin. now if he does, that's exactly how it was described, needs be still books. these the root that's known of investment, but it didn't come up at all with the 1st pregnancies, and so i must have then came the 3rd child to help me out to donald comes from that . i think the nightmare has disappeared off to his bus. and she didn't have time to think about them. today's was full. 3 children, a house and her when she went into private practice as a pediatrician, she also trained as a psych affairs profession. she continues to work in today. she trained
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mainly with jewish psychotherapists. many have been in concentration camps and researching the effects of trauma like mazda cos, another survivor, let's say she had somebody didn't know i could see, she saw my number and she said, see, how did so me? i just thought you were there to i didn't know that as soon as you can post. and to me that i worked with her for many years, the h, as mother became depressed near the end of her life, eva was convinced the memories from auschwitz were waiting on her to
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she and her sister, nor a wanted to help, but didn't know how her mother refused to talk about it. a silence she held until the door is the last member of our original family dyed homes for me, the good stuff and we are the continuation. so we are a bridge between the war in the postwar period side, if i didn't want to become even more of a bed and doing her mother's final use, she never told her that her marriage was stating that button allow me to zuber together for a long time team and we were a good team. let me see a couple of the marriage fell apart and you know, they're in the end. several things always play a role,
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fucked toward it. didn't work anymore. but i'm for those. and i kind of realize that just in my head, you're going to me them cough, but get a for me. a for filed for divorce of to 23 years. thought stay below, but i still think i found the divorce very hard to bear initially. i'm hung specialist, i felt cut in half food to me, so one half was missing as of the hub, it in that in the head of to give. and that was certainly true for the 1st 2 years seem to been here when i think about it now of the essence, my yacht. then she adjusted and settled into a new life. and alice with surfaced again, she was often 2011 if she would give a speech on the anniversary of the cancellation. she started events, i always refused, but then reconsider. i finally realized i'm doing it in reverse. done, i should think about it before i refused to shut off and i talked to my children
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mainly eric, she said, you know, mom, you've got a chance to be the youngest, you should take it. design concepts were the name a. so i agreed, she spent weeks fine tuning his b 2, january 27th. the 2nd time and oh sure it's, since she was liberated the small that was the most important speech of my life. the 1st hour she gets speech, which was only 5 minutes in the smoking size, i feel bad. i was cold inside outside. returning to this place alive cath lab, bending the she then goes back into her life in munich. but 3 years later, she finally began to confront what had happened to have found the name of $71.00. she suffered a heart attack on her way home from shopping. she dragged herself up the stairs and
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called an ambulance. she survived and finally decided to tell his story. now i'd be excited for me. you no longer have time to wait. yeah. either do it in to the get it and if it gets us. yeah. a for one to 2 vice a book about his family. she had to do her own research since her mother had told her very little about that time. and she needed someone to help her. right. the villain, olsa and historian, stephanie aust, but has since become a good friend and no my dear in nor even imagine a norm is how you face. so at 1st it was quite practical and then for not being alone, law interacting with the many dead people in our family,
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for us money in those that are familiar hot visa and stephanie, we're on the road for weeks. they travel to all shirts, israel and the us. they search the archives everywhere for clues about a for some of the decent fronts of this friendship is now 8 years old. and it's only getting better. and because we were lucky to find each other, had some glue for me to f ma missed. and 1st off i brought to you back. can you? oh, i had completely forgotten about these 2 inside me. so what impressed me so much was the visit to your admission is to me, i will be the 1st time we sat in front of a computer that was supposed to give us see data about people from my mother's style. he postpone it from my media, my number to and it rattled, instead of one piece of paper after another pm knocked him on the,
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on the set and this woman to fill out a devout jewish hum, gary and woman, asked on that to you. so me and his are just be stool and i said yes, perfect. yeah. where do you live? i said in unit oh with germany. she said, and she judged me so harshly that i dare to come here and that i dared to live in germany with the history that i even came to the archives in the sense that shocked me. has me stumped. i felt really bad being scolded by her. from there, i was cushions. it's a finally then what happened to her family? she found out that her father had suffice to death, much from auschwitz, but then died of blood poisoning in the concentration camp in mount austria. in 1945 skiing in an office school, she often didn't feel well for the 1st talk. she had strong physical reactions. for
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example, she had coughing fits and really didn't sleep for several nights and coughed either . but she's incredibly disciplined. and you could tell the whole time she was working that she wanted to know if she wanted to go through it and she pushed herself to where limits of it is, but she went through it. and the interesting thing for me now in retrospect is that you can also see that something changed within her that we had to do. she no longer had all the heart problems she used to. she also no longer had long problems, changed her poster as crazy as that sounds. think of us and that is a wrote a book not only for himself, but also for her children and grand daughters. her own mother couldn't talk about her time. and also it's because she couldn't bear it, but she paused on her experiences as an emotional legacy that i think all 3 of them were murdered in the concentration camp and go to florida. and
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my mother was the only one who survived for me, it's just a lot about our family legacy generally, and kind of how important all i was experiences and comes here and see these photos . i think it's just really important for us in terms of understanding more about ourselves and our identity if his mother never raised her children to hate the germans. despite their experiences in the hollow cost each most, it does money. and i would like people to somehow not use the word for gas and not because i hate that or you can forgive of it, but you can still live together. you can delete and not only live, but also become friends by following it. and the children can continue to have friendships because otherwise we'll never get rid of this and tugging isn't leaking on. the nice thing is this book made
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his famous and she's very so soft as one of the youngest survivors. she was invited to auschwitz by the international, much of the different organization is rodney, i've been here several times, but i've never seen such a crowd of young people. there are 8000 here now. policy this memorial much has been held and illustrates once a year since 1988 survivors work together with young people from different countries from alphabets to bit to commemorate the debt and celebrate tonight. at the end of the march, april recounted her family story to 1300 young austrians until the
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season i did this speech is titled a life with the wounds of al should finally me then wound me fun. i was 12 years have paused since her 1st speech in auschwitz she has given count this lectures and readings in this 13 k. for me, he's obviously, for me, i wish that is a traumatizing part of my biography, but i see an emotional legacy. and this has not ended with me in mind if it's zone nice, but, and i'm, i'm like, is the, is passed on from one generation to the neck. i'm making that i'd soon to me. i have to make sure that this legacy is not passed onto my son's niece. my grand daughter's, or those around me have my the inc kelly name or the of my own. that is a key. thank you for your attention and for your openness to my difficult word.
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often i get new the main, the data to the head of a sudden i would say to me, the stuff really i've never seen so many people clapping for me. this is the 1st time he gets it and thank you. yeah, thank you. and may i say something quickly? i talked you were deported from sarah to 2 days after our great grandmother. and she also survived documents were very moved by actually very nice. thank you very much for your work the the try otherwise i'll start trying to do seems to be your story. really touched to me. it gave me such
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