so we had to sign was incredibly like, this is a driving you with free information, dw, made for mind the this week on the 77 percent street, the bait slavery left a deep wound in all of us. and would you see us comment is because we're trying to heal that with that it was please, i try to understand why i am here. i want to leave you coming back. he wants to speak. you want to go out. you want to take your kids to the park to play, but when you do other kids spit in your presence is actually creating a problem for us to be going to be kind of the

hello and welcome back to the 77 percent street debate this week. we a back in gunners, capital of across. now, 400 years ago, the 1st women men and children for us to be stolen from this continent, arrived on the other side of the atlantic in america, fos for many years later. and the government more than governmental gun that you sing to its international defendants come back home. but what does that integration look like? beginning 2019 dumped the your return. this initiative has introduced many people from across the world back into the community. and how is that affecting the make up of the society who better to answer that question that some now, oh good it is. and i want to start with you profess a company, because i think in order to understand where we are, we must look back in time. how did we end up in this situation where after? because what disjointed and disconnected from the land i have, what i call the thousands, hundreds and tens model. and what that is, is that thousands of years ago, like people when now to populate the entire planet earth and then hundreds of years

ago like people are in slaves. and this goes back all the way to the arabs, you know, the indian ocean and so forth. you have to sandra 1000000000, and then tens of years ago, you have what is often referred to as the brain drain, where, you know, those are going out to see greener pastures. and usually as because their own homes have been set on fire by, you know, i, m f, world bank policies and so forth. and so on. many of us came to the conclusion of why do we continue to build the land of our enemies before we are doing it, you know, at gunpoint, you know, at the point of the width and so forth. but there's a problem that says a cow grades is where it is tied, but if we're not causing that means we don't have to continue grazing on places. when you know, we are no longer tied there. so for uh, some of us we decided to repatriate. so for me, i have repatriate a gunner, and several of my refrigerator gone clients have gotten citizenship. all right, let's talk about your own preparation for a little bit. 2008 is when you decided to move back to gone to what inspired this

specifically on 2008 i went through what a lot of black people go through, which is a trump top charge of racism and so forth. then i'll ask you, are you are, you know, citizen who's benefiting the community and so forth. they just say, all right, because you're black or really is because they are way right that they behave and that way. so i decided that i was coming here to do my ph. d. i did. so i'm doing pretty well. i've been a sort of a traditional ruler. so this was given to me by the in some uncle i handed the overall spiritual head of all of the assign to people is about being accepted as about being respected. and those are things that you don't get under donald trump. and the divide is mix of motor. oh wow. those are some very strong words that you've chosen to use. i don't want to come to the brad these here who are a couple and cause a couple of he'll always go because they do so cute. but they've also just joined a uni you and a lifelong union with gun that you got us citizenship yesterday. and they something but the professor said he had to be removed from the law and of your enemy. is this

how you considered america, where you actually grew up? we moved for our safety and our children's safety. it is unsafe in the states, no matter where you go. if you look like us getting out of the land of our enemy was priority number one to make sure that no matter what we did to build a business or to simply just live the simple life we were be protected in that like yeah, is this also what you think land of the enemy is this what baltimore was to you. for example, at the bottom where we have the highest, like a very strong caught crime rate in my city. and i think that is due to the fact that people are completely lost and so all of that anger and aggression gets pushed out onto the streets and then we're suffering for me. even i think back when i was in school and go on university, i remember i used to go on my phone and try to find like an app to look at um, to listen to radio spaces in a cry just to hear the language. and i remember when i would just sit in there and like i almost just cried, just didn't like so. know that like this was,

this was taken from me. you're sitting now as you, as you have goosebumps everywhere. because my great, my great, great grandmother's. these are the song that they would sing, these are the language that they will use and we don't have them anymore. and it's even hard to explain like how that, that stealing of our identity impacts our hearts. and so when you see us celebrate, and when you see us happy to be in, got it even though we know the conditions are great, here the economy is not great, but slavery left a deep wound in all of us. it left the bone and would you see us comment is because we're trying to heal that was that it was please. okay, thank you so much for being so honest. i'm vulnerable with us. i appreciate but let me speak to mr quest. see here who is the ceo of the tourism board, which is behind this initiative. there's a lot of pain, a trauma and fia that a lot of people are escaping coming into this country. but was this your idea when you launch this initiative? um yes or no. uh yes, we knew that we had to make the connection because we've been separated for far too

long and we didn't understand each other. and so yes, the idea was, let's reconnect. let's bring us together and see how we can work together. culture, all these changes towards them, investments and everything that makes us want people know because we realize that it goes down just a reconnection. we'd also for people to come in here, really people change the routes, come back to where'd all be gone. okay, so you were told come back to africa. hey, yeah, you want to know know what have you experienced as being the reality buses? what you might have expected nikia you said that the state of the economy is not great. and yet to hear you. well, why i think where africa beats america and development is social development, in terms of how people are raised in here and having respect for your elders. i struggled a lot with my mother. my mother passed about 2 years ago actually was taking care

of her for 5 years by myself because i couldn't get the, my families understand that we as a family should take care of my mother together. but here and gone, no, you don't have that problem. you don't even really see nursing homes because the people understand that when you're, when your parents get older, you should take care of them. and so these are the things that i feel like that are really important for us to really focus on and see that there's a lot that the gardening at heart has to offer. and that we also should take hold of and to integrate and understand our place in the society. so add a mature to you are raising 2 beautiful children here. how has that experience been for you? and what are some of the challenges of integrating so far? oh it's, it's really been beautiful, you know, in the states we lived a very isolated lifestyle because of safety. you know, you want to go out, you want to take your kids to the park to play. but when you do other kids spit at them, that is an experience that my son had at the playground on more than one occasion.

and so we lived a very isolated line. so to be here and to be free and to see my kids be able to be joyful. and that not be a crime. has been a very, very beautiful thing. okay, i really love how beautiful this is sounding and i'm just gonna throw a little bit of pain in here. could you tell me other people who returned romanticize using the idea of africa a little bit? maybe a little bit. tell me about the uh well the truth is really if i was in god and the reason why it may look like we actually, it looks like we want us to change switch places with them. and because of the goodness, the country has built inside of us, you've gone through the educational system you've, you've put together yourself to be, to be on top of the site, but then there's no opportunity for you to use them and put yourself in a better placement so, so let me ask that question because you did talk about immigration of emigration. and actually surprisingly, gunna is one of those few countries in africa where they are more people leaving

the country than they are coming in. and that surprised me. so i want to know from the people at the back, anybody if you get a chance, are you taking the plane to get out of gun and let me see make sure of hands if your answer is yes. what are the low? when you hear these people come and say, hey, this is a beautiful country, we need to reinvest back on the continental. does that make you feel? i feel is because the have my does idea coming back home for me. i want to leave the country because economy is, is, let me hear one more person at the back. i would love to leave the country. right? like guess as the i see, when do i coming to carry to money? which is making that less comfortable by reading their country. people are struggling on the streets. if such, pressing get opportunity. besides the personal name of the country pro, what do you make of it? when you hear that the local population here already has an assumption that's your welfare that there's an income disparity in built. so about 3 weeks ago i gave

a presentation on how you can earn a quarter $1000000.10 next your income by living and gonna. and a case study is i had translated is coming from the university. i've gotten a, at a conference that i just had and we hired them to teach p. they had 2 students from the 2 students who were paying them. they were able to get enough money to pay their entire master's degree for one year. generally. people think, oh, what can i do at this language? but i'm saying that you don't have to go outside and that was a message that they learned to someone in the world who wants any skill that you know how to do, and they're willing to pay you richly to do it. let me ask jeff what he thinks. yeah, because he is swallowing hard. i don't know if you think this is great advice or if you see it, a somewhat condescending, what are your views? is i think um, what probably say nice uh, quite true. now i had my sister from behind me said that these people have money coming in. yes, they me thing to what do you have? it's not enough for them as they come in here. but from the ordinary personal

industries of okay, let's see also streets. you see, if i want to work on the street and by what proof is waving, i kind of wanted to invite. but can you imagine gets into us west street and this event of selling this didn't post on you to the moment the pressing realizes, profit is coming from outside his donation. the best thing, prizes this thing very high. so it brings us that you've got. but at the end of the day, why does the prices go up? it doesn't come down and we are the ones who so far eventually. and that is a problem we're facing. you have to do, your presence is actually creating that problem for us. going to be coming up, but i want to come back to me so quickly because obviously these emotional sentiments have the potential to become something else xenophobia, a phobia. are you just telling people come in or are you putting in place strategies? so the integration is sustainable. and seamless in terms of the expectations from both sides. when we started a your written and we'd started off as in by june the prizes of goods in december motto, comfortable, because you pull to the ice, there's

a over time we have an opportunity that's milk. it happens everywhere when you go to the olympic games, prizes, hope everything goes up. yeah. but then we have to meet with people. are they all sent with the 12 bridges with hotels to explain to them? that's right. this for the long term. that is not just an open window for you to caching. so it's something that we have built in, but it's not going to take a days. and the culture is different. you know, so let's try and work out selves to integrate is we want to talk about cultural integration. it's also looking at how do we make sure that people understand what we are doing. and you're not taking advantage of a boat as, as just as we're coming about. yeah. jennifer, because you're the latest. the latest to right. well if i could call you back, do you feel that because of your accent? sometimes people want to take advantage of you. i would say that sometimes that is true, but if not just true for african americans, i think it's true for anyone that has an american or u k. x. and even if they're going in, when we're talking about gun a gun as a country that has a population of over 30000000 people, there may be 10000 african americans. we are an extreme minority. so i think that

sometimes where use of the scape goat and that is misplaced. do you feel this? because i know that you run your own business and setting it up. was it easy for you? if you're going to and you can set up the business for like 1000 to 2000 and cd's. but if you're coming from outside, they're telling him bringing half a $1000000.00. now we'll set up your, you can set up a business as the so, you know, owner, that is not, you know, very easy, you know, for anyone. if we're not having a very deep analysis of what's going on, they play black people against other black people. so just to the point, we need to understand that we're all black people and we have very common do you know type comments for, you know, type in a common thrust for survival that we need to have, as opposed to divide and conquer. let's play those incentives against the fontes bloods versus crypt they do it every single place. okay, but what i'm hearing is a black. we may be, but our bank accounts surely, and not the same. let me find out from jeff how he feels. hearing all these sentiments, because as these are now your country, men and women,

are you aligned with their bodies? we are happy, they are here and would wish that to become forest with them without having any problem whatsoever. if we see our brothers and sisters their respective or even the color, even if it's a white person coming to buy something, let's the pricing be as it is, you understand and maybe government in the states, businesses need to establish some kind of a price control regina so that's um every where you go, the prizes will be the same so that it doesn't come to the point where i see you pay the way you speak or pay your color. then i prize that interest you myself just because i want to make some extra profit that is stealing. and it's very about. so obviously one way to do this is what mr. christie, he has suggested cultural integration. and i just want to hear from the people at the back, how many people have made friends with retire needs people from the diaspora. are you integrating with them in your community? let me hear from some people. yes or no. yeah. where i used to work, which is a beauty solid and

a lot of the dies varies. do come. what i tried to do is i told them, okay, if you want to buy this, when you, when you get to the market in any that they give you a higher price, maybe the thing is buys a 100, so just slash it to like 50 city. so i tried to give them to all right, could you? yeah, us good news, give the exposure out where we integrate with the desperately cause i think generally gives us access to so many things to see. to see that our skill sets can put it under blue, blue bosco, and then we can let me tell you the truth. the gun. your dream is that we can earn fresh water money while we're still here. that's a good entry. so was the best for us, integrates with us and we expose to that's what we don't want to go any way because we don't want to build a 40 percent taxes and all of that. okay, you want it to just wanted to touch on the pricing of things, you know, being new here. we're here for just over a year. now i try, we try to shop in our neighborhood and be because we are new and because we don't

speak the language that will yet we're learning, but the prices get hacked up. and so then we are forced to go somewhere else to spend our money. and we would prefer to spend it in our neighborhood, but they are heightening the price up because we're new. they don't know us yet, but it makes it harder for us when, when that happens to it's and it's unfair. okay. but you know, you, you, you gotta really understand cold to understand people, you know, when you come to god but people is culture. yes. but when you come to god shopping is part of the culture. you just have to supplement, you know, not just chop and like you with a chop, the family, they top they friends, they is just the way whether the government is chopping the resources. it's part of the culture. so if we want to see change, then we also got to influence culture. we got to go in there and didn't make something like chopping repulsive. like saying it's dylan you understand now if i'd

say a government official, that shop resources that should have went to year and he took it and re appropriate it for something else. then he stole the money. seeing that we'd say that instead of say he chopped the money, then at that point you don't want to be a thief or so did he change his behavior and his action. so it's important for us to start the looked at culture and didn't influence culture in a way. well, we can bridge the difference and then we can progress ok as one and one of the best and fastest ways to influence culture is through marriage. hello, brides to be here. this is talk to me about how you arrive in gun hoping to be here for 2 weeks and then you're about to get married. actually i felt a spiritual calling to come to gonna, i wasn't, has any at the time. and i had a friend who was here and i was like, i'm coming to new poetry and photography book and i need a partner. can you connect me with a reliable man who can assist me in that reliable man became my soon to be husband

reliable. we have a daughter together, i gave birth here and got it. and that's also a thing like when i gave birth here, people were like, why didn't you go back to the us to give birth? and i'm like, this is an ancestral moment for me and my lineage, i'm the 1st and my family to come back of the 1st and my whole when even when i went back home, they were asking me questions about africa. none of them have ever come, haven't we have even decided to live and now i have my, my brother and my sister are come in. i got my auntie and cousin company. now their minds are also opening up as well. when you think about going to the us, you don't realize if you go that you give birth, who was helping you. everybody is working, you won't get your auntie to come and help you with the baby. so these are products of the culture that they have here that are so beautiful and i think we should continue to uphold. and i'm happy to definitely to be married and i got a husband in january on the longest long story. congratulations of yeah. and, and do you have obviously gone up the ranks and, you know,

appropriate chief you said? so how does that come about? i mean your completely, you must in the culture now. so i would say the language is key when i 1st came in 2008 to repatriate for good. i 1st came and 98, you know, to gone now. but when i came to repatriate, i was going to look at houses and the agent i was speaking to you to the agent, cuz i had already learned g, i'm teaching to you at the university now. um, but the guy who was the caretaker, he didn't know that i spoke to you. so he just decided he sees me and he decides it goes to be english. so i heard him turn to the agent as a new boy, you see not so you have a touch of understanding of what you see enough to do a minute when you're in and i it's, it's kind of saying that the real price of the festival, how is this accident? is it good? yeah, i'm saying it just like how the agent fed it. they notice voice, that's the skimming board and can you translate for us, please? and he said that the, what he said, the price is this. but what about the price is, is we're going to tell him the price of this and then me and you were going to chop the money half off. so i heard everything that the guy said,

but i go through the whole house. i'll go over the whole house and as i'm leaving, i'll say, okay, is there enough as i'm doing it now? can i have to punch out for the day? and then it is a long time to go with them to keep my kid. what was that? what did you feel like i didn't tell you, does it does, is vicki, but, you know, for there it really went into how once i know the language, it has a very major impact even in terms of how much they can talk. because sometimes i'll just talk, you know, normal, like i'm just speaking with my regular accident in english, but then i'll, i'll switch to impeccable, gee, where i'm seeing the numbers in t, because a lot of them they have, they don't, once they go to numbers of no no, but i start doing it and then they're like, wow, okay, so we know that professor is also a comedian. it's good to know. let me hear some thoughts before we come to some closing remarks, please. i think basically what we to beckoning with is the narratives the narratives that are painted with them about us in the narrative. but i think that about them to us. so they are being said to as rich people believe the luxury they

are boozy and oh that's and and then we, i think that's what the last piece for people's life is not all that expensive. so they come here expecting the expense not to be as high as it says, like where they are, they come here and there's another thing. and we are wanting to go to where they are, because we feel we are going to be transferred to the very top, the top. we also went to give me the luxury and we go to the and sorry, it's not. so i think we should work on the 96 of how we think each other is going to help. so when they make as under spend to perform the luxury that we see there was an emotional pain. they don't pink to us, but it is what it is. then we also told them ok when you come to our side, these and these is way i'm going to face because of the way you always are coming from. so talking about the language i read viable in church the last time and i decided to reading cheese and everyone who was clapping. i mean, know why she should be something i read in your class and you have the direction

you for the 1st time. because she is right language. so language coming back to language. i need to close this because we are running out of time. but what do you think it's gonna take for everybody here to stop seeing them? they ask for the commands into we, they're going in thinking about marcus messiah garvey, and, and being a pen african is and seeing all of us as in us as a we and, and stop separating it to think that us coming from the diaspora did not have to survive and i is, it's a little disheartening to hear. you know what i'm saying because we are killed in the streets daily. you know, for nothing, simple traffic steps. and so i think we just all have to decide that we are all the same. ok, and i feel like um comparison, this is the thief of joy. um i we,

they were talking about the usb they apparently have, i'm not coming with a 401 k or a pension or a successful business or retirement. thank you. i'm not coming with a successful business, i'm a month. i don't know business very well. actually, i have neighbors who are finally helping me get my stuff together. but we've been insulted by guardians, and i ask friends of like, because we don't have money. we didn't come here to make money stretch. we came to contribute. so the, the amount of money that you guys think we have, at least as to we don't, we do not have. and if you look like me and you have the accident, you have, they are going to help you. they are going to give you any money. it is best to stay here. do what professor said and make something of your own. because even here it tell it here, okay, but what about people who go out and make it and mix up things of themselves and very small percentage and a half. and of course they're going to show you that on television, that's a very small percentage, and of course that's what they're going to show. all right? but like she said, you go there, it is not as cushion goes, you think great, you get a fancy job before you get the police police going you down before you even make

the money. that is a reality for the job doesn't make ends meet. so you're having to do all these crazy other things and make the in. all right, that's why there's goober and insta caught because people were 9 to 5 jobs and they get off and now they have to go delivered. so because of the interest of time, i just want to close with profit because we started with you. answer the question for me. how do we go from them? the dashboard is a good chance to be. i think conversations like these are very much necessary because just as was mentioned by my sister here, they gets a narrative about those in the dashboard and even names when they go travel to places like the us. that's all don't hang out with the black people because they're all drug dealers cuz they're all gang bang those because it all this that and you know, they'll say, oh africans all for you, you'll see the images of the ethiopians that flowed on their face. so if you want to fight, call someone an african, and that's considered to be an insult. what it means is that when really not having conversations and dialogues who, in whose interests will benefit from you,

thinking this about the aspirants and who benefits from that most thing in depth about you. and once we understand who benefits is basically follow the money trail . the one who benefits from the problem is most likely the one who caused the problem in the 1st place. so there's a quote, and i think this is very poignant. so perhaps close on about not a renewal of a cd and also not quite a bit of grace as what we do for ourselves. depends when we think of ourselves. when we think about self depends what we know of ourselves. and what we know of ourselves depends what we have been told as to say about ourselves. and we haven't been told very much about ourselves. gotten a chance, haven't been told very much about our own history has gone and the aspirants also haven't mental. but again, look at not who, who suffers from the problem, like who benefits from the problem. and you'll see the one who created the problem and we're the ones who can solve that problem. well, thank you so much. yeah. so there are a lot of things that this debate was not, it was not about confirming whether or not the people who've returned african that was never in question. they what always have been and always will be this debates

actually from the words of common chroma, right? the delta t is not african simply because he was born here, but to be african is to have africa born in you. thank you for watching the the

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