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we ask why? because education makes the world make up your own mind. made full minds. change your trousers. so i see you've got your sexy underwear on the, on the books and let's see whether or not going to where those fun issues. where are these lace up ones? the good one is i've gotten 510. i don't even need to spend as default next year. you are not that jacob low capital. well, you're still wearing the suspenders very well. it's across here we go. steve jose boats. so one more push. there you go,
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the cities that me time. i never have dreamed that i'd be back in germany. i should been on this doing so well. baki a new model buys an item, noise. usually when you as old people about their lives, you don't get much by way of response. new bill coffee, the pascal fruit, but he's lived enough life for 10 people, most of us, alice and they all the things he went through some point that fascinated me from the very start. i think it's more of what i 1st i didn't know how to talk to him about his terrible experiences. assigns name is elizabeth tim and about it all, you know, it was on the bus and, but he said ask anything was like a flash, one of those one is a and when he started talking, my john was on the floor who to to get such har injects and all sorts of things on this movie ship the
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it's been off for knowledge, even at 98 years old. i can't understand how people could be like that. big guns or springs in the whole of these trees. you not one jew was able to hide the age of this was now the help that i totally went on. 3 decked matches not just off, but i was taken to bed and bought some hobbies trish and that among the dead and the dying. few days later, a time came on so on. i told them again to shoot us all the issues about us when it was in english time keeping it to pass on to see that for you can't imagine what they found there at bag and bell so that i can best i'd sleep is a cemetery except in the cemetery, the bodies of batteries didn't have gravestones. the bodies lie on the ground,
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not one or 2. hundreds, thousands of why did i survive? i know my brother and my parents the this month whenever the time, so a kid. ok. they moved off who was to book involved, and dora, beg and balance, and then the 5, if you survive is don't tell the young people what happened, then everything will be lost or do you believe you survived the works? my young can spend 2 years trying to find his family out on the house, on his wrist of the 1947, he found his sister be talking just
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a few weeks later they moved to america america. we bought good. ready ready ready to void, now you want to stay here. living among these people actually invited a good one for mom and dad too, but they weren't here. that doesn't matter because they lived there for more than 60 years. obviously, one day he woke up to the sound of christ and his sister fell out of her bed for a 1055 for specialists and from the stroke had been so bad that she could no longer speak or move feet v discretion control. ne pavilion control each wise know, all i know is they were in contact with some people in the town of lair. yeah. on and the people in there wrote and said you should come here. we can help you clear chrome. you can do or test it's got
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the guy was the nurse who looked after her treatment. how are you doing that? are really recovered because later she died on. so you focused on how he's taking possession. i started with them all. i stayed in the room with him until 7 o'clock the next morning and we talked a this suddenly outburst was all alone in the world. comes a line of today. i just don't mean the worst on after i retired. i went to the nursing home every afternoon and then came to lock down and i couldn't go anymore on, but i knew we needed a solution done by here. it turned out the apartment above me was vacant. we were able to move in straight away as i trust few young lives together for almost 4 years now. you know how we each of our own bedroom and we share this space. cool, thank you. if we could talk and get annoyed or do everything you'd expect us to. a
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chicago, i can't say very well. i'm showing my age. should i not easy to lift your leg? 98 years old warranties. huh, i did it. of this suitcase. i'm still looking for something less. what is it? oh my head bratia. hold on. that's the piece of junk this. yeah. but it's fine for me. my bold head down go sure. thank you. good. i can get a sweetheart deal. yeah. not always. yeah. they find a huge issue because it's become a jewish moms. they say a jewish mom takes care of her children, takes care of the household, takes care of everything. go to the a hi one sided loving mother, the back then i was a little child, i just came on it kind of goes, when ever i heard myself or i cried. my mother would come and hold me and kiss me.
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she tell me everything would be okay because that this is others get other fearful . but i'm this photo desoto, extremely important for address because it's the last one with all of the siblings and sort of the shows that was a photo studio with a sign saying area and still no jews allowed. we tend to overall jewish styles or held bags over them across the hall. you could see from our faces that we were shaking like leaves on so on. the brother was and scan or rocks kind. she's got. so he took us in his and the photographer diona took a photo that i can do bought the warranty type, the day or so later the data went back and got the picture now. and i thought we said to each other at the, when it was all over,
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we'd meet again. well by invalid. your was really never wanted to go back to east freeze. yeah. home to what was done to his staff and even my thoughts on get on board. i need to see it tries to treat each mission. if i don't know how, i feel if my parents were suddenly gone and i didn't know where they were, they up his heart condition. he still doesn't know how showing up. he knows they were burned in auschwitz, of, you know, they didn't even get a number on their arms. so they must have gone straight to the gas chambers. so you'd have to kind of show it to them. i'm not to blame for what happened just if i wasn't even alive back then militia when your german, when you feel a certain responsibility because of that, of i know, give us
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a shot and thoughtful of the dental administering for yesterday. when someone like that is a standing in front of you and they have done, you know what they've experienced, i lie to, you feel somebody lied. i will also you also think about how you can make up for what happened to them in the name of the german people are still see it is giving them that direction. i don't even know me. so i'm not going to say there's nothing more to be done or that it's not my business. and of course it's my business to the state. i'm desktops on this side chain. yeah. the 10 years old brushed and i have been on the road and yeah, you know, won't keep you on the memory of what happened to life. you go to schools and talk to the students that we just tell them what happened, etc, i talked to, etc. oh yeah, go ahead. one. did that when we came back from working before we got out super,
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which was almost inevitable as the door would be closed and the s s man would be standing there? god, if you had to walk past him naked and he'd look at you dr. for by game will need i didn't hear where i may see i did or if you had scape is sort of rational, also is from mel nutrition. and he wrote down your number this we will go for the next day. you and dr. jimmy, what nation god consider. he charged down the $116927.00. it's fading. yeah. do you have 10 choose to? not yet we to young. oh, want me to. yeah, no, we're only 16. 0, but you can have a 2 at 16. go ahead to. yeah, but i mean there's no like this. this was good to go.
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okay, thank you. my pleasure. once the guns look look like those went to poland this year and visited ocean. oh is you in terms of yeah, custody. how soon did you see the shoes and the shaving brushes on things like that? yeah, yes. it is right. and no, i was in model of it's not in the actually it's main comes in a bad time is, is i'm just doing forced labor when i was 14. good. so it's either nickname from green because i was so little to that. uh yeah, i guess my family romantic a more to to thank you. don't watch all of the just for explaining it to us. it's really incredible. flip guns. no is that you're really receptive group of people on your,
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on the right track. lot of that these fanatics intimidate you if i want to cause you. i was so touched by your words. i'm really grateful virtually. so uh yeah, god starts going to start. you don't have to find me. doesn't match the in the scheme of things you do to me. yeah, that's all i guess that's. that's wonderful. they helped me. i've come to know wonderful people. again. the i didn't have that as a child to contact me is mostly what used to have to get off the sidewalk when an area in the past by nicholas brooks is young a little as duke says, a journal dropped. now, after a magazine article came out, he got in touch with us and asked if he could guide a book about agression to try them could. so they can make us. and if the it didn't take long to realize that there was more to this man's life than
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a magazine article could do justice busy and it's down that says, and it's a life story worth telling. so we're going on 5 worth writing a book about transcribing flight so that you might just need to read it as 590 or the fatherland nor our neighbors. think to my father, me not. you know, people never called him mr. vine bag, or alfred vine bag. for vine. derek. the cattle dealer. they just say where does the old jew vine bag live? or do you find that toner, brilliant guns. nobody could have done it better. that's our goal. and that's right . a mom. you know, how soon did you tell a med yeah, i have the we spent quite a bit of time together. what's wonderful? yeah. so each of them con klein mind is shot, but my body has given way on ethan vs. i'm really happy there. they'll be a book like this or not, my doctor,
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i pass on so to speak. my hope is that it will be read by young people who so this never happens again. moved up, i see it a. ringback minus 5 patterns got married in 1920 in the hall of fame and i moved into the house and, and i'll defend models. mom was a nice woman and she didn't beat us too long. she can't, uh, children. ringback is just a regular guy loving we had a wonderful family life for. ringback the other one was a hot bed of anti semitism. we were the only jewish family left for on the icon any across from my house. they built an adult,
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hitler square. i don't know if that's capable to avoid a shade more every morning they raise the flag to ask you for the use boys in the uniforms with sing songs outside our house. folks like today, how many belongs to us tomorrow? it'll be the whole well, but keep on marching, no matter watching the board for the account because you get quite a nose fucking bony face so that i can. i don't think i'm christ. i'm not on the. yeah. because they came to a house and more or less smashed and destroyed everything. right? yeah. this coupled to your home? i remember it was doc and got it. i don't know what time in the office back here. they chased us through the entire town where it belonged. but we didn't know that the synagogue was being bound down because we were driven from the other side of the town to the category on board. the wine shop skills. there was
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a slaughter house in the country on to for when animals had to be slow onto that short notice. and on november, the 9th, the women and children were locked in the can among the hatchets and sold by the t z or atmosphere alone. a deep dish of women were crying for ever small children. adult, people don't do it all in motion done, you know, and they rounded up all the jewish men and young people around 17 or 18 so they set them to sax and housing concentration kind of stuff. so actually how is it it's consecutive? yeah, it is. yeah, and knowing your own november night, we go to address the birthplace and relative thing gets resigned. remember as family in our fee, as is $5.00 right? now, this is a very special place for our braces tightened. see, he has no symmetry where he can go to more and his parents. so this is
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a place where he can feel close to his family. what? well, no problem give them the. so thank you for all coming here today. things should be very different too. this is still a bad time for us people at the jewish faith to mention the best of i. but i find that, you know, it's now called the address design that high school. here we have the students to
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thank for that. they pushed for it to be named after outburst tests. i've looked fine. recognize him, sign number of the comp. the does have. yeah. honestly, you didn't get to have a use. you got mr. but no dancing, no falling in love, nothing like that kind. got them and that's in them all the time when he should have been doing that. he spent an hour should that he only got out when he was 20 open concept culture was like other like here's the, here's your porridge brush and yeah i this august come,
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unbelief phone one day a letter came from a retired pastor, you know, he had been in the hitler, us as a boy, and then a soldier in the van mocked one day i have done so i wrote us a long letter to leave it plugged into custody before ms. dunning, cuz your eldest steinberg of twice, if we were once on opposite sides just because situation brought about not by us for by the criminal rulers that i followed at the time. i don't know any better today. i'm ashamed of it today. we want to shake hands in friendship instead, and examples get hungry so that what we experience can never happen again must be a lead time. maybe doug machine come, guy says, well, hold of all genetic and let's just so he could write, he had an education mercy, no, i just want to know what was going through that hedge bank them. and then he find when he was in the hitler youth investigating g is it seems to me he's saying these ideas was said to them along with that mothers, millington place for this whole life. he hasn't talked about it and he says
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something. now, when he's about to head to the body gates, because he believes in god. yeah, it's okay that the quotes for don't lie to state because he wasn't in nashville. if he had be good, i don't know if he could still believe in god. twice the cost of it comes, he checked honest with you, if i really can't compare himself to you. when he writes, we, i mean, it seems totally wrong to me, is a because with him, an outburst is, alvarez kept asked him sadly wished experience. the worst thing is the person can experience things. we can't imagine in our wildest dream, all in one house. meanwhile, this man stayed at home and east freesia became a pastor and everything was fine. when now in his old age, there's this time that you will conscience and your visit, this conscience that's come from somewhere else. he makes it all about him. how even said, i can't die until i have told my life story at the address divine. the high school, fine back unknowns you how there is a can you believe that my name is a the,
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the, the few. how many will nodded in your family, a motor pola killed in the 2nd world. walter did run into numbers, maybe as a soldier, and so that's the soldier, but otherwise, no. so if you could just said you didn't want to be a soldier. yeah. yeah, that wasn't possible. that's good. cause that was against the principal in traditions that been saved from that it was as good citizenship as i'm exclusive of the. i'd like to welcome mr. carl, most of us from the village of linkable in east freesia that's,
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i mean i understand i are especially interested in the jewish. i thought it was there were a lot of jews in the area. how did you not know where the jews had gone or what it happened to them up to being didn't auto body's it take y'all help us get worse as well? yeah, of course we knew to zane you could see it in 1938. 0 susie. this you could see that the jews were being taken away on most of mine. oh my god, i have to say my grandfather was a baker in the north. yeah. and he was well respected by the jewish communities in does. yeah. they did the feedback box of bread for them to match some of the tests and they've done so you had a bunch of jewish friends on june or the last well our neighbors were jewish decent and they were taken away to for him to calm down the hall as children, we didn't ask where they went as on space the we only heard about the
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concentration camps and much later on. but i knew nothing about what happened in these camps and see or places like the more nothing absolutely nothing. they give us, which is the show of all the icons. did he ever go to a concentration come to make amends like this man here who went to our shipments that all that helped me talk to everyone had a jewish friend. every one was a friend to the jews and for jobs, all my parents were still imagining the ben hill more that was not by. i know that by john and all those a long time to find that nobody said anything until they got started behind the cutting so seduce was sent east searching, murdered in that mail was being taken away. no, not one, not hundreds,
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but the median small the median. so imagine by germany, only one good movie on your not dodge of more than outpatient. oh it's okay. don't sound excuse me. so yeah, it was the want to apologize. nobody ever said a word on board. but fuck, if you can forgive that, excusing it is another matter signed by my parents when i did my relatives, my uncles and aunts killed this. i can't explain that to a normal person. i know somebody mentioned that scottish. yes it the
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the how ne, on tech appointment. have they ever had a therapist or no for any psychological counseling or anything like that? that's the describe. so they did not. i can do this in la vito who believe, but i do think that in the last 10 years i've also been like a therapist to him to you can't control constantly talking about his reading about it. so i'm discussing it on the as i hear in more he says that he's sleeping better than this actually snacks on till i noticed that when i check in on him after he's gone to bed, that came to me. i looked in on him after 10 and i see him lying peacefully in the bed sleeve, coffee being so quietly of the the both claim the other and how we have the boat launch at the all breast vine back high school. i it it's been yet fuel in time now 74 and i'll just recently turned 99 on the way in
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which i know in 90 john youngest most has a 99 year old. you can't be expected to sign all those books by himself. dr. had so we took samples of his signature and we made a stamp out of the best versions of his 1st and last name. so that the memory would fade like the number on my, um, notice that's a quote from outbreak defined bag and the title of the book that nicole last books and get a dana costs will be reading from forty's. and then it says that as i've asked across the square, i saw face it by haggard with hollow cheeks. to whom do you put around the lips was a smile. i recognized immediately the data. the man smiled that matthew was my brother. my what to do? you had no hair, but it was my brother. he was suddenly right in front of me in the middle of this inferno on the square of the amount of its sub camp announcements. and we've run into each other in mid to thousands of prisoners.
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that's why i'm here not to mention some of the people here simply couldn't believe what their grandparents have done. understand how the whether or not there was a bit of guilt is not for me to say my company for time, but there's so much interest in his book that people are confronting it and asking what exactly it was that their parents or grandparents were doing back then on mind, at a time to lose out on the contract, they must fluid now the shoes on me. yeah. it would be too, i hope, and pray that all these young people who have listened to adverse to speak over the years will take a stand against injustice and racism in their own way. and it is kind of
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how are you afraid of dying? no one if i look it up in a situation like that, i've seen hundreds of corpses and i've laid in bed with them that evening. i think it can be as good as you want, but there's no getting around it. thompson is doing well. ringback ringback enough for us to see it if you never completely make up for what happened. but i hope i've contributed as much as i could about the safety issues. that management mass. boeing
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is in crisis. the us aircraft manufacturer is highly indebted, and moral and image are to in the all time low. is this an opportunity for it to your opinion? rival airbus made in germany is the same. it is on the d. w. it's one of the most painful emotions because it always implies that there's something fundamentally wrong with you, the shades of seen. why did we actually see a list of names? or shame affect our self image? is through an escape from the ceiling. the 75 minutes on d. w. the untold story for
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