a check out the same 9 dodge journey been given by of the business, the deputy news life from the us president donald trump says he's country will take over garza and turn it into the riviera. that's in the middle east to us. we'll take over the gaza strip and we will do a job with a to, we'll own it. once product statements and guys have regular cases of egypt and jordan and prime minister benjamin netanyahu. price is the us president for thinking out of the box. also on the program growing along and the us i see it on must gains access to federal payment systems. democrats accused and misleading,

a hostile takeover of the us government the i'm so okay, welcome to the program. we begin with donald trump tons a gaza us president has announced that he's country will take over the gaza strip that palestinians living that could be settled elsewhere, made to come into the white house press conference alongside is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu. mister netanyahu describe the idea as was paying attention to and said that it could change history and gaza at the medicine group, how mass and palestinian leaders in the west bank of rejected the idea of several of us allies in the region, including saudi arabia, egypt, and to okay, what a mary ellen o'connell as a professor of law and of international peace that is the university of notre dame

and the united states. she joins us from south bend in the state of indiana. welcome to the w. do you see any way that the us could do this? legally? it, yes, it could do what president trump has suggested legally with the consent of the palestinian people. but i've seen no indication that there's any interest pest, pest, and even people in transferring their sovereignty in their territory to united states as president trump calls in ownership. it would be great. it was a conceptual agreement in which the us provide substantial a to rebuild godsa and to even rebuild the west bank and create the riviera and the least. i'm sure everyone would like that. as long as it's under the wishes under the control of the casting people, right? so they could be a carrot and all stick in this. couldn't that could be, well,

if you don't let us do this, we'll just let you live with the rubble around you. or perhaps if you do agree, we'll give you certain inducements as well. i hate to say to this particular situation as that kind of a bargain. although i think the way you put it would appeal to president trump. he likes to talk about international affairs and those deal making ways. but the palestinian people have certain inherent rights, certain human rights to self determination to live in a situation that is supported, but the right to life, the right to the family members their right to their cultural heritage of this has been destroyed through unlawful use of force extensive, lo, uh, use of force in the us has played a role in that and providing all sense of whether it's israel, which has been used in violation of international military law. so under,

for the international law perspective, as opposed to the art of the deal perspective, the palestinian people are within their rights to demand that the us provide support as a remedy for the us as the role and the destruction of casa in helping to rebuild it. and on behalf of the international community to rebuild the prices cultural heritage that has been so vastly destroyed, protect the environment to create and, and honestly that right away to tease. there's lots of moving parts. so this is a suggestion of wild as it is because let's say that he gets that the guns to agree to that, then he doesn't have to talk to the neighboring countries like egypt and jordan, i'm say to them accept these people. now they've already said this deal as a non stop that. how could he pressure them into accepting relocated guns as

well? i would have said 2 weeks ago or before the president was in operated, the countries were gonna stand together and support the rule of law. cooperate with each other and send the message that it's international law. the gods international relations, not particular deals that present a truck comes up with late at night. however, we've seen, for example, in the case of columbia, when they were trying to stand us to prevent the inhumane fish slides of people and talked to it, not that accused of crimes were not part of the criminal justice system. indeed for patients' lives, the columbia seems to step back not stood strong for that supported human rights to yes, president trump seems to have a way to get answers. he wants, at least in the short term. i'm hoping that in this particular situation there is actually some good in what president trump said. yes does. has been made on a little yes there, there should be a way forward to make it livable to make it

a prosperous, wonderful place where tourism brings money for people where a peaceful way of life is possible. so let's build on that in a cooperative way. emergency housing a brought to the region, all of the countries need to refuse to do any sort of deals with the president. thank you so much for joining us, professor professor mary ellen o'connell from the university of know today. thank you. a staying in the us. that's a growing concern of a loan mosques role in federal spending, decisions, us president donald trump housing power, mr. must add his team to make drastic cuts. in the last 2 weeks. he shuts up several government programs and move to close the us agency for international development. most recently, he's gained access to closely health financial systems, including the us at treasury department, payment system. democrats say the situation is dangerous, unconstitutional, and

a power grab hundreds of protest as a rallying in washington, dc against billy. and that the law must take over on the federal payment system. raising alarms that it could be one of the largest privacy and security breaches in us history. with the we feel like our country's being stripped away. we've got the elect on the elected official who's added as a share of every view on much. he's taking control of the finances, all of a sudden we've got orders to hold up funding for critical aid. and people are uh, rates. yeah, this is not what people voted for. we feel like our democracy is under a task where various members of our government and other organizers are here to protest. a line must unlawful intrusion and the best of our intellectual property,

our private information, our health care information, and the very systems that make our government function via the big data and the software and the hardware. most of the world's richest pets and also serves as an unpaid advisor to presidents. donald trump. these departments of governments efficiency as being tasked with identifying ways to cut spending loose and regulations. or now his team is leading as to shut down the united states agency for international development. a move this drawing shop criticism from opposition. democrats. they argue these options show must keep gaining too much influence in washington. those is not a real government agency. it has no authority to make spending decisions. it has no authority to shut programs down or nor federal law to give dos that show cold

on treasury payments. is that land actually dangerous? democrats say most auctions unconstitutional, but the president has defended him. and for now, most commission to revamp government shows no signs of slowing down. let's look at this with richard pill. this who is professor of constitutional law of a new university school of law specializes in legal concerns concerning democracy. you seem like just the mind professor. let's start with, with those, it's the what, where does it fit within government and within the constitution? so the president has said that this entity is actually part of it existing and today and the government of it's designed to deal with digital services issues . and he has recently said that eli mosque is a what is called

a special government employee, which is a recognized category in the law. but it's a temporary category. you can serve as a special employee like this for about 4 months. there also still various requirements for any special government employee, which we don't know whether you are mosque is in fact complied with. there are disclosure requirements about financial information, for example, measures to deal with potential conflicts of interest. so um, there are lots of questions around all of this, and one of the issues is we don't have a lot of transparency yet. about many of the questions surrounding the, the role that you on must use is played and exactly what he's doing in his uh, of the people working for him are actually doing so to those questions when you get answered when so mom takes out a lawsuit to the judge says, stop this now as well, you know, congress could demand

a more transparency. um, congress has a lot of levers that can use against the executive branch in get ahold of. nominations refused to confirmed people a but so far. congress, which of course is in the control of republican party, hasn't shown any, any kind of interest in challenging any of this. so, in light of the, at the challenges are going to come through the courts and a number of challenges have already been filed. and this, this, the takeover, if i can put it that way of mr. must take over the federal payment system. well, if you're in charge of government efficiency, it's hard to measure efficiency. if you don't know how much government officials are being paid to do with that job. so that seems reasonable as well. there's the, you know, there are various kind of legal procedures and legal protections. so this is obviously what we're talking about access to all the information about the

government payment system. you know, there are privacy laws that are variety of protections that are built in for, for it's such incredibly sensitive information. we don't know whether all those protections are being complied with. this goes to the, you know, the larger question of the transparency with which all of this is being done. uh so, you know, the 1st thing i would say for public information is, you know, actually getting access to an understanding of what, in fact is being done. what powers are, are being made available. you know, for example, there are some stories that suggest muskets only been given the power to be read into the information and the payment system, but not to alter anything. we don't know if that's the case. so litigation does become a way of bringing to the surface what's actually going on in the government if, if the government itself is not providing the requisite transparency and other

conflicts of interest concerns here. because on the one hand, mr. musk is not a secretary of state is not formally part of the government, so he doesn't have to go through the congressional congressional approvals process . but on the other hand it's, it's a computer barely that i've access to that sort of data must be, well, he's, competitors would pay a lot of money for yeah, so i mean, that is $1.00 of the concerns that's been raised and, and also if he were actually a full time government employee on the disclosures he would have to make about, you know, financial matters to deal with potential conflicts of interest with the public disclosures as a special government employee. the disclosures is required to make by law are actually kept confidential. but we don't even know if he's made those disclosures. i'm skeptical, frankly, given how fast everything is moving that,

that he has. but you know, there's no question among the many issues around all of his activities. you know, one of the questions is out the potential conflicts of interest given his range of business interests and how many of those are, are being addressed or okay, you know, protected against. thank you so much for to hear that through that. so i professor richard, tell this a professor of constitutional adult. thank you so much. thank you. as a reminder of our top story, this alex a us president, donald trump, this cause international outright jeff to saying this country would take over the gaza strip and that kind of thing is living that should be be settled elsewhere on a student's 17 rejected the idea as have key us out as a key us allies. saudi arabia come

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