last is a, has a name some migraines on the african continent. community . yours deadly migration policy. thoughts, february 15th on dw, the this week on the 77 percent street debate, slavery left a deep wound in all of us. and would you see us coming? it's because we're trying to heal that with that, it was please, i try to understand why i am here. i want to leave you coming back. he wants to speak. you want to go out. you want to take your kids to the park to play. but when you do other kids spinet in your presence, he's actually creating a problem for us because we kind of the

hello and welcome back to the 77 percent st debate this week. we a back in gun us capitol of a crow. now, 400 years ago, the 1st women men and children, forced to be stolen from this continent, arrived on the other side of the atlantic in america. fast forward, many years later, and the government, the modern governmental gun that you sing to its international defendants come back home. but what does that integration look like? beginning 2019, the your return. this initiative has introduced many people from across the world back into the community. and how is that affecting the make up of the society who better to answer that question then? so now, oh, good mans. and i want to start with you. profess accompanied because i think in order to understand where we are, we must look back in time. how did we end up in this situation where after? because what disjointed and disconnected from the land, i have what i call the thousands, hundreds and tens model. and what that is, is that thousands of years ago, black people, when not to populate the entire planet earth,

and then hundreds of years ago like people are in slaves. this goes back all the way to the arabs, you know, the indian ocean and so forth. you had to sandra 1000000000, and then tens of years ago, you have what is often referred to as the brain drain, where, you know, those are going out to see greener pastures. and usually it's because their own homes have been set on fire by, you know, i, m f, world bank policies and so forth. and so on. many of us came to the conclusion of why do we continue to build the land of our enemies before we are doing it? you know, i've done points, you know, at the point of the width and so forth. but there's a problem that says account raises where it is tied, but if we're not causing that means we don't have to continue grazing on places. when you know we are no longer tied there so far. uh, some of us we decided to repatriate. so for me, i have repatriate the gunner and several of my refrigerator gone. clients have gotten citizenship. all right, let's talk about your patrice and fund. it will be 2008 is when you decided to move back to gonna what inspired this specifically on 2008 i went through what

a lot of black people go through, which is a trump top charge of racism and so forth. there are ask you, are you uh, you know, citizen who is benefiting the community and so forth. they just say, all right, because your black or really is because they are white, right? that they behave and that way. so i decided that i was coming here to do my ph. d. i did. so i'm doing pretty well. i've been a sort of a traditional ruler. so this was given to me by that. and some uncle i handed the overall spiritual head of all of this on to people. it's about being accepted as about being respected. and those are things that you don't get under donald trump and the divide is next of a matter of wow, those are some very strong words that you've chosen to use. i don't want to come to the rugby here who are a couple and of course, a couple of he'll always go to because they are so cute. but they've also just joined a union and a lifelong union. and we've gotten that you got us citizenship yesterday. and they something, but the professor said he had to be removed from the law and of your enemy. is this

how you considered america, where you actually grew up? we moved for our safety and our children's safety. it is unsafe in the states, no matter where you go. if you look like us getting out of the land of our enemy was priority number one to make sure that no matter what we did to build a business or to simply just live the simple life. we will be protected in the lexia. is this also what you think land of the enemy? is this what baltimore was to you? for example, in baltimore, we have the highest, like a very strong cop crime rate in my city. and i think that is due to the fact that people are completely lost and so all of that anger and aggression gets pushed out onto the streets and then we're suffering for me even i think back when i was in school and the one university, i remember i used to go on my phone and try to find like an app to look at um to listen to radio stations in a cry just to hear the language. and i remember one night i would just sit in there like almost just cried. just didn't like to know that like this was,

this was taken from me. you're sitting now, is this, you have goosebumps everywhere because my great, my great, great grandmother's. these are the song that they would sing. these are the language that they would use. and we don't have them anymore. and it's even hard to explain like how that, that feeling of our identity impacts our hearts. and so when you see us celebrate, and when you see us happy to be indicted even though we know the conditions are great, here the economy is not great. but slavery left a deep wound in all of us. it let the be blown and will you see us comment is because we're trying to heal that william, that it was please. okay, thank you so much for being so honest. i'm vulnerable with us. i appreciate but let me speak to mr quest. see here who is the see of the tourism board, which is behind this initiative. there's a lot of pain, a trauma and fia that a lot of people are escaping coming into this country. but was this your idea when you launch this initiative? yes or no. uh yes, we knew that we had to make the connection because we've been separated for far too

long and we didn't understand each other. and so yes, the idea was, let's reconnect. let's bring us together and see how we can work together. culture . all these changes towards them, investments and everything that makes us want people know because we realize that it goes down just a reconnection. we'd also for people to come in here, really, people change the routes, come back to where it all be gone. okay, so you were told come back to africa. hey, yeah, you uh, i wanna know, know what have you experienced as being the reality buses? what you might have expected nikia you said that the state of the economy is not great. and yet to hear you. well, why i think where africa beats america and development is social development, in terms of how people are raised in here and having respect for your elders. i struggled a lot with my mother. my mother passed about 2 years ago actually was taking care

of her for 5 years by myself because i couldn't get the, my families understand that we as a family should take care of my mother together. but here and gone, no, you don't have that problem. you don't even really see nursing homes because the people understand that when you're, when your parents get older, you should take care of them. and so these are the things that i feel like that are really important for us to really focus on and see that there's a lot that the gun in heart has to offer. and that we also should take hold of and to integrate and understand our place. in the society. so adam, i'm sure it's how you are raising 2 beautiful children here. how has that experience been for you and what are some of the challenges of integrating so far? oh it's, it's really been beautiful, you know, in the states. we lived a very isolated lifestyle because of safety. you know, you want to go out, you want to take your kids to the park to play. but when you do other kids spit at them, that is an experience that my son had at the playground on more than one occasion.

and so we lived a very isolated line. so to be here and to be free and to see my kids be able to be joyful. and that not be a crime. has been a very, very beautiful thing. okay, i really love how beautiful this is sounding and i'm just gonna throw a little bit of pain in here. could you tell me other people who returned romanticize using the idea of africa a little bit? maybe a little bit. tell me about the uh well the truth is really if i was in god and the reason why it may look like we actually, it looks like we want to change switch places with them. and because of the goodness of the country has a built inside of us, you've gone through the educational system you've, you've put together yourself to be a, to be on top of the sites you. but then there's no opportunity for you to use them and put yourself in a better placement. so. so let me ask that question because you did talk about immigration of emigration. and actually surprisingly, gunna is one of those few countries in africa where they're more people leaving the

country than they are coming in. and that surprised me. so i want to know from the people at the back. anybody, if you get a chance, are you taking the plane to get out of gun and let me see, make sure of hands. if your answer is yes. what are the low? when you hear these people come and say, hey, this is a beautiful country, we need to reinvest back on the continental. does that make you feel? i feel is because the have my does i got coming back home for me? i want to call and she because economy is, is let me hear one more person at the back. i would love to leave the country. right. like just as the i see, when do i coming to carry to money? which is making that less comfortable by reading their country. people are struggling on the street. if such, pressing get opportunity for 5. the impression was given the country pro, what do you make of it when you hear that the local population here already has an assumption that you'll will see that there's an income disparity in built. so about 3 weeks ago i gave a presentation on how you can earn

a quarter $1000000.10 next your income by living and gonna. and a case study is i have translators coming from the university of gonna at a conference that i just had. and we hired them to teach p, they had 2 students from the 2 students who were paying them. they were able to get enough money to pay their entire master's degree for one year. generally people think, oh, what can i do with this language? but i'm saying that you don't have to go outside and that was a message that they learned to someone in the world who wants any skill that you know how to do, and they're willing to pay you rich late to do it. let me ask jeff what he thinks. yeah, because he is swallowing hard. i don't know if you think this is great advice or if you see it's a somewhat condescending, what are your views? is i think um, what probably say nice uh, quite true. now i had my sister from behind me said that these people have money coming in. yes, they me thing the, what do you have is lucky enough for them as they come in here, but from the ordinary personal industries of okay, let's see. i suppose streets,

you see if i want to walk on a street and by what proof is waving, i can walk the invite. but can you imagine getting to us west street and this event us sending this didn't post on you and to the moment the pressing realizes, profit is coming from outside his donation, the best and prices this thing very high. so it brings a setting up. but at the end of the day, one of the prices go up, it doesn't come down and we are the ones who so far eventually. and that is a problem we're facing here to the prisons are truly creating a problem for us. and we kind of, uh, but i want to come back to me so quickly because obviously these emotional sentiments have the potential to become something else xenophobia, a phobia. are you just telling people coming or are you putting in place strategies? so the aggression is sustainable and seamless in terms of the expectations from both sides, that when we started to your written and we'd started off as in, by june the prizes of goods in december. one model quite troubled because the i,

there's a you, over time we have an opportunity that's milk, it happens everywhere. when you go to the olympic games, prizes, hope everything goes up. yeah. but then we have to meet with the people that i've sent with the top, which is with hotels to explain to them. that's right. this for the long term. that is not just an open window for you to caching. so it's something that we are building, but it's not going to take a days. the culture is different. you know, so let's try and work out selves to integrate is we want to talk about culture. integration is also looking at how do we make sure that people understand what we are doing, and you're not taking advantage of brothers and sisters. we're coming back. yeah. jennifer, because you're the latest. the latest arrival. if i could call you back, do you feel that because of your accent? sometimes people wanna take advantage of you. i would say that sometimes that is true, but it's not just true for african americans. i think it's true for anyone that has an american or u k. accident, even if they're demand. when we're talking about gone, i've gone out of the country that has a population of over 30000000 people. there, maybe 10000 african americans. we're an extreme minority. so i think that sometimes

we're used as a scape goat and that is misplaced. do you feel this? because i know that you run your business and setting it up. was it easy for you? if you are going to and you can set up the business for like 1000 to 2000 and cd's, but if you're coming from outside, they're telling him bring in half a $1000000.00. now we'll set up your, you can set up a business as the so, you know, owner, that is not, you know, very easy, you know, for anyone. if we're not having a very deep analysis of what's going on, they play black people against other black people. so just to the point, we need to understand that we're all black people and we have very common do you know, type comments, you know, type in a common thrust for survival that we need to have as opposed to divide and conquer . let's play those incentives. i guess for fontes blood versus cripps, they do it every single place. okay, but what i'm hearing is a black. we may be, but a bank accounts surely, and not the same. let me find out from jeff how he feels, hearing all these sentiments, because these are now your country, men and women. are you aligned with their bodies?

we are happy, the i here, and wish that's with them for exist with them without having any problems whatsoever. if we see our brothers and sisters, irrespective of even the color, even if it's the white person coming to buy something, let's the pricing be as it is, you understand and maybe governments and the states businesses need to establish some kind of a price control the games so that's um, every way you go, the prizes will be the same. so that it doesn't come to the point where i see you pay that we speak or pay your color. then i prize it interest you myself, just because i want to make some extra profit that is stealing. and it's very about . so obviously one way to do this is what mr. christie here suggests of cultural integration. and i just want to hear from the people at the back, how many people have made friends with retire needs people from the diaspora. are you integrating with them in your community? let me hear from some people. yes or no. yeah. where i used to work, which is a beauty salad and

a lot of the dice varies. do come. what i try to do is i tell them ok if you want to buy this when you, when you get to the market and they, they, they give you a higher price. maybe the thing is buys a henderson is slash it to like 50 city. so i tried to give them to all right, could you? yeah, us good news, give the exposure to where we integrate with the dashboard equal please. i think generally gives us access to so many things to see. to see that our skill sets can put it under blue, blue bosco, and then we can let me tell you the truth. again, your dream is that we can earn fresh water money while we're still here. that's a good he agreed. so was, yeah, but as far as integrates with us and we are exposed to, that's what we don't want to go anywhere because we don't want to get the 40 percent taxes and all of that. okay, you want it. so just wanna to touch on the pricing of things, you know, being new here, we're here for just over a year. now i try, we try to shop in our neighborhood and because we are new and because we don't

speak the language that well yet we're learning, but the prices get hacked up. and so then we are forced to go somewhere else to spend our money. and we would prefer to spend it in our neighborhood, but they are hiking the price up because we're new. they don't know us yet, but it makes it harder for us when, when that happens to us it's, it's unfair. okay. but you know, you, you, you gotta really understand cold. you don't understand people, you know, when you come to god but people is culture. yes. but when you come to gonna chop in as part of the culture, you just have to supplement, you know, not just chop in like you with a chop, the family, they top, they friends they. it's just the way whether the government is chopping the resources. it's part of the culture. so if we want to see change, then we also got influence culture. we got to go in there and didn't make something like chopping repulsive. like saying it's stealing. you understand now if i'd say

a government official to shop resources that sort of went here and he took it and re appropriate it for something else. then he stole the money. seen that we'd say that instead of say he'd shop the money, then at that point he don't want to be a thief. so didn't he change his behavior and his action? so it's important for us to start to look at culture and didn't influence culture in a way. well, we can bridge the difference and then we can progress ok as one and one of the best and fastest ways to influence culture is through marriage. hello, brides to be here. talk to me about how you arrive in gun hoping to be here for 2 weeks and then you're about to get married. actually i felt a spiritual calling to come to ghana. i wasn't has any at the time. and i had a friend who was here and i was like, i'm coming to new poetry and photography book and i need a partner. can you connect me with a reliable man who can assist me?

and that reliable man became as soon to be has been reliable. we have a daughter together, i gave birth here and got it. and that's also a thing like when i gave birth here, people were like, why didn't you go back to the us to give birth? and i'm like, this is an ancestral moment for me and my lineage. i'm the 1st and my family to come back of the 1st and my whole when even when i went back home, they were asking me questions about africa. none of them have ever come have a we have even decided to live and now i have my, my brother and my sister are come in. i got my auntie and cousin company. now their minds are also opening up as well. when you think about going to the us, you don't realize if you go that you give birth, who was helping you. everybody is working, you won't get your auntie to come and help you with the baby. so these are products of the culture that they have here that are so beautiful and i think we should continue to uphold. and i'm happy to definitely to be married and my dear husband in january comes the longest long story. congratulations of yeah. and, and do you have obviously gone up the ranks and, you know,

appropriate chief you said? so how does that come about? i mean, you're completely, you must in the culture now. so i would say the language is key when i 1st came in 2008 to repatriate for good. i 1st came and 98, you know, to gone now. but when i came to repatriate, i was going to look at houses and the agent i was speaking to you to the agent. because i had already learned g, i'm teaching to you at the university now. um, but the guy who was the caretaker, he didn't know that i spoke to you. so he just decided he sees me and he decides he goes to be english. so i heard him turn to the age as a new boy, a c not so you have a touch of understanding of what you see enough to do a minute when you're in. and i, it's, it's kind of saying that the real price of the festival, how is his accent to the goods? yeah, i'm saying it just like how the agent fed it, they notice voice that's a skimming important. can you translate for us, please? and he said that the, what he said, the price is this, but what about the price is, is what can i tell him? the price is this, and then me and you were gonna shop the money half off. so i,

i heard everything that the guy said, but i go through the whole house. i'll go over the whole house and as i'm leaving also. okay, very nice as i'm doing it now. can i have to punch oh you for today? oh, it is a long time to don't want them to keep my kid. what was that? what did you feel like? i didn't tell you, does it? does it's vicky. but you know, for there, it really went into how once i know the language, it has a very major impact even in terms of how much they can talk. because sometimes they'll just talk, you know, normal like i'm just speaking with my regular accident in english. but then i'll, i'll switch to impeccable, gee, where i'm seeing the numbers in t because a lot of them they have, they don't, once they go to numbers of no, but i start doing it and then they're like, wow, okay, so we know that professor is also a comedian, it's good to know. let me hear some thoughts before we come to some closing remarks, please. i think basically what we to beckoning with is the narratives, the narratives that are painted with them about us in the narrative. but i think that about them to us. so they are being said to as rich people believe the luxury

they are boozy and oh that's and then we, i think that's with them last piece for people like this know or that expensive. so they come here expecting the expense not to be as high as it says where the uh are they come here and presented, i think, okay. and we are wanting to go to where they are, because we feel we are going to be k, if it's a very with profit that we also went to giving the luxury and we go there and sorry, it's not for me. so i think we should weapons in 96 of how we think each other is going to help. so when they make is understand, perform the luxury that we see there was a motional pain, they don't pink to us, but it is what it is. then we also told them ok when you come to our side these and this is way i'm going to face because of where you always are coming from. so talking about the language, i read bible in church the last time and i decided to read in cheap and everyone who was clap in. i mean know why she should be something that you read in your

class. and y'all help evaluate she for the 1st time because she is right language. so language coming back to language, i need to close this because we are running out of time. but what do you think it's gonna take for everybody here to stop seeing them? they ask for the gun as into we, they're going in thinking about marcus messiah garvey, and, and being a pen africanist and seeing all of us as in us as a we and, and stop separating it to think that us coming from the diaspora did not have to survive and i is, it's a little disheartening to hear, you know what i'm saying because we are killed in the streets daily, you know, for nothing, simple traffic steps. and so i think we just all have to decide that we are all the same. okay. and i feel like a comparison, this is the thief of joy. and i were talking about the usd that apparently have,

i'm not come up with a 401 k or a pension or a successful business or retirement. thank you. i'm not coming with a successful business, i'm a month. i don't know business very well. actually, i have neighbors who are finally helping me get my stuff together. but we've been insulted by guardians, and i ask friends of like, because we don't have money. we didn't come here to make money stretch. we came to contribute. so the, the amount of money that you guys think we have, at least as to we don't, we do not have. and if you look like me and you have the accent you have, they are going to help you. they are going to give you any money. it is best to stay here. do what professor said and make something of your own. because even here it tell it here, okay, but what about people who go out and make it and mix up things of themselves and very small percentage and a half. and of course, they're going to show you that on television, that's a very small percentage, and of course that's what they're going to show. all right, but like she said, you go to, it is not as cushing as you think. great. you get a fancy job before you get the police police going you down before you even make

the money. that is a reality for the job doesn't make ends meet. so you're having to do all these crazy other things and make the in. all right, that's why there's goober and insta caught because people were 9 to 5 jobs and they get off and now they have to go delivered. so because of the interest of time, i just want to close with profit because we started with you. answer the question for me, how do we go from them? the dashboard is a good chance to be. i think conversations like these are very much necessary because just as was mentioned by my sister here, they get a narrative about those in the diaspora and even got names when they go travel to places like the us go to don't hang out with the black people cause it all drug dealers cause they're all gang bang those because it all this out. and you know, they'll say, oh africans all for you, you'll see the images of the ethiopians with flags on their face. so if you want to fight, call someone an african, and that's considered to be an insult. what it means is that when really not having conversations and dialogues who in whose interest will benefit from you thinking

this about the aspirants and who benefits from that most thing in depth about you. and once we understand who benefits is basically follow the money trail, the one who benefits from the problem is most likely the one who caused the problem in the 1st place. so there's a quote, and i think this is very poignant. so perhaps close on about not a renewal of a cd and also not quite david. what a great says what we do for ourselves depends when we think of ourselves, what we think about self depends on we know of ourselves. and what we know of ourselves depends what we have been told as to say about ourselves. and we haven't been told very much about ourselves. gotten a chance, haven't been told very much about our own history has gone and the aspirants also haven't mental. but again, look at not who, who suffers from the problem, like who benefits from the problem. and you'll see the one who created the problem and we're the ones who can solve that problem. well, thank you so much. yeah. so there are a lot of things that this debate was not. it was not about confirming whether or not the people who returned african that was never in question. they what always

have been and always will be this debates actually a from the words of common chroma, right? the doctor, he is not african simply because he was born here, but to be african is to have africa born in you. thank you for watching the the

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