the, the 5 years off the window, well it still stops much 8 on dw, the this is data. what you do is lie from berlin, the munich security conference. it's best to get under way with a warning to the united states. any peace deal to end, the ukraine war needs to involve keys and europe to succeed. but will the us listed and trying to survive and gaza. people there say they're facing a new war as they struggle to find food and shelter. and the devastated territory. the

welcome to the programs. political leaders from all over the world are converging on germany to take part in the munich security conference, which gets underway today comes just days after you. as president donald trump spoke to russia, it's letting me approve and agreed to start piece talks, end of ending the ukraine war to move as alarms leaders, and both your of em keep as it has raised fears that the 2 sides are planning to settle the conflict over their heads or on that in a moment. but 1st this report in the battlefield and done yet in eastern ukraine, one of the regions russia has tried to swallow and the ukrainians have fought for years to get back last year. ukrainian president, follow to me as a lensky, laid out a victory planned to world leaders that included nato membership and the return to the countries 2014 borders before russia annex the crimea province logged in diesel . it will surely be sad that thrushes war against the grain has ended not frozen,

not paused north fulton truly. and this will happen not because someone got tired of the war, not because someone traded something with pushing. that dream is dead. now, us defense secretary pete haig says, has said that nato membership for ukraine would not be part of a peace deal. and that a return to ukraine's old borders was unrealistic in line with key demands from moscow. he's also said that europe in a non european forces, should provide security guarantees, but that there would be no us boots on the ground. the trump administration has also indicated that the sanctions relief for russia is on the table. ukraine does hold one card territory. it's taken in russia's caustic region since a surprise cross border operation last august. now the russian side of the border is the sight of some of the fiercest fighting since the war began. ukraine holds over 600 square kilometers in cost. that's much less than the territory. russia

holds in ukraine, about 20 percent of the countries land mass. but the cost incursion is an embarrassment to moscow. and it's brought in north korean troops as well as reinforcements to try to get the ukrainians out before negotiation. start, the ukraine also has something for the us treasury secretary scott best and was in keith this week, seeking an economic deal that could include ukraine's rarer minerals. but from ukraine's perspective, the promised negotiations are already off to a bad start. with its comments on nato and borders, us has already given away 2 key points before talks get under way. benjamin tell us as the director of the democratic strategy initiative, a political thing tech, and he told us about his assessment of trump's announcement that piece talks will soon start without consulting ukraine. well, it's certainly a situation that's got everyone here in munich, very worried. but frankly speaking, the europeans have not stepped up enough to have them onto the seat at the table

yet. and that's the challenge they have to meet now they have to show why they're relevant to this process to go over the ukrainians had, is regrettable. and to make the kind of comments that pete headset made. taking data membership off the table, which is a continuation of dividing policy, but also saying it's unrealistic to get the territory bad. seems to be a kind of betrayal as czechoslovakia was betrayed here in munich, back in 1938 and both aspects that were core parts of the lensky so called victory plan. what does it mean for the country that those now seem to be off the table? well, the sad thing is that accurate comments, given the political state of affairs and the state of support that's been given to ukraine the way the europeans if they wanted to step up and change this would be to properly um, you're trying to win, which they failed. to do, to put their own troops on the ground, perhaps unknown combat virals in west and ukraine to seize russian assets to

actually show that we are in the, in it to win it. they haven't done that. and so without that kind of support, it is unrealistic at the moment for ukraine to claim that territory. but to lock in that situation is extremely unfortunate aside because it's quite strategically stupid just to give this up to the russians. and it doesn't bode well for europe and security in the long run because it will only embolden an abreast of russia out . we've heard us special envoy kellogg urging direct talks between food and ends. the lensky. do you think at this point in time, the 2 men would be up for it? it's hard to say with the changing political state situation at the moment previous they have they haven't been and right the so from is that unexcused part because there's nothing to negotiate really with with boots and who has not been minded to do the one thing that what else you need to meaningful negotiations, which is to stop the war and give up the territory. he's a legally seized,

but with a faltering of western support and us support for ukraine, then it might be that so then ski actually considered as this to be for a short time. the right thing to do. however, that would depend on any deal that was struck and that has to include meaningful security guarantees, and that's become more difficult with the us position as well. so again, really a lot depends on the europeans here to find the need to heat the wake up cold because this is not just about defending your crime. this is about defending ourselves. and that's the time we genuinely stepped up. as benjamin tell us there. well, i munich, all eyes are now on the international leaders who will set the tone for discussion surrounding global security and europe's role in the ongoing crisis and ukraine. retentions rising, some key figures are already shaping expectations for what lies that here's what the man has chipped to become. germany is next chance or had to say yesterday, he's helped us to he buys, i've gotten some early indications of what vice president j. d vans will say it will be a confrontational speech,

and i very much hope that the chancellor is prepared also in coordination with his partners in the european union to give a european not a german, but a european answer on it. i know it will be a very, very important day and will remember this security conference in 2025 for a very long time. it will have consequences. it's mostly, i mean, you know, once you've got 5, that's bringing our chief political editor mikaela cruz now who is in your integrated security conference. now huge expectations there by jeremy's opposition made or physics math. is he right about us, vice president? them well, we are expecting a speed, some daddy vans that will not just map out towards the united states is planning on ukraine, but potentially also criticized the political spectrum here in germany and europe. we already so you know, in mosque who doesn't really have an official outside role for the united states,

essentially in to see here in germany as the call on german votes as a to vote for the fall. right? a if the policy in elections that are happening and just over a week's time here in germany. and if the message from debbie vance is what, according to the indications we're getting from an interview he already gave to the wall street journal, he will be calling on an end to the political so called firewalls of woods the fall rights. and that, that's the parties of the center ruling out that they would cooperate with them here in germany and to europe. and that would be quite something a to makes. that's a speech. some cool on politicians to act differently. that is interference. and at the same time, the question is, how will the europeans respond and will they be united on this? we do question that solution mounts. and supposing here another big actor on the table is china as from moves and withdraw from global commitments. china is waiting in the wings, the plan to further bolster their influence in the multilateral institutions of the

world. let's take a quick look now at james traders report about how the international community deals with that. the us leaders say europe needs to do more for its own security because washington has bigger fish to fry. the us is prioritizing deterring more with china in the pacific, recognizing the reality of scarcity, and making the resourcing tradeoffs to ensure deterrence does not fail. europe got the cold shoulder almost immediately upon donald trump's return to the white house . he's resting terrace on the you and criticize the blogs defense spending. kind of list of on the ties between washington in europe or a 2 way street. and they have good relations with europe. a key to the us is protocols, a nation. the, when they are signs of we can think of us engaged with support and coming to you opinions, security concerns is no longer term,

may not be the best idea for america in terms of staying power. what do you imagine china do? key amongst those names is preventing a chinese invasion of taiwan and disruptions, the key trade routes that surround this horses and once the united, from some its containment policy against china. so the u. that doesn't necessarily mean military involvements in the region, but it doesn't mean cooperation on economic conditions, like export controls on advanced technology emission. by brand old options, could you repeat a difficult, binds the continental skeptical of aging. and it's heavily criticized china for what they say is it's test that supports impressions invasion of ukraine, as well as flooding european markets with cheap chinese input. the analysts say, washington, this transaction will approach to your, could leave them no choices, but to draw a closer cause of aging. europeans feel squeezed and they don't want to cut off the ties with china because they're fearful of having given the us too much

leverage in this type of a complex geo political field that they're playing in. in munich, china will be represented by one in the countries top. diplomats, he has long side to cause paging. as the responsible stakeholder involved, defense changes have been accelerating this century. can i have those challenges come one off or another international corporation and coordination between great powers have become more urgent and importance? excuse me. great pleasure. and while washington tests the limits of its alliances, europe may be more willing to mention it's a badging take on managing a move all the time was still with us. it's how do people as a security conference there. and then again, more broadly in europe, plan to deal with china is changing role in washington's dealing with facing

a while, or it's not that easy. you can't just talk about sign until about taiwan until about confrontation. china is needed to solve one of the key issues in the well, that includes climate change, but also arms control and that was seeing fresh noise is coming out of washington. and neither the european know the us economy can do without sign at this moment in time. so the big question is whether this confrontational style by the trump administration, we're seeing so far, will help or hinder at bedtime says it's becoming less dependent on china. that is the overall aim. and another thing is, and i was part of conversations here yesterday evening where there's a question that is really openly being asked to will the us withdrawal from europe signal into asia that the us is a desirable ally in the future or will other asian countries also feel that they're

more on their own, because the united states is not proving as reliable as a europeans hope for in this conflict over ukraine with russia. so these are all still open questions to base you as we're seeing, as you political new mops, being thrown out for any w to political editor. me tell you that case. now from them unix security conference, thanks so much. you as president on drums says he is preparing broad terrors on all trading partners of the united states. trump has told his economic team to devise plans for reciprocal levies on every country taxing us imports. the order would also hit non tariff barriers like safety regulations and sales duties such as the value out of taxes which increase the cost of products. here's president trump speaking after he order the new round of hair. and on trade, i have decided for purposes of fair, it is that i will charge a reciprocal tear, meaning whatever countries judge the united states of america,

we will charge them no more, no less. so in other words, they charge us tax or tariff and we charge them the exact same tax or to have a quick look now at some of the stories making headlines around the world. and the 6 people have been killed and several others injured off for a fire broke out in a luxury hotel in the city of boots done. and south korea blazes believed to have started in an area on the 1st floor that was under construction. the exact cause has not yet been determined. and the united states, heavy rains across los angeles are threatening to cause lands lines and sweep of debris from the areas effective by last month's wildfires. sand bags and concrete barriers are being distributed in order to stem flooding. northern california is also on flood watch is heavy rainfall continued highlands army has freed 260 people from 20 countries who were forced into working an online scam centers in

myanmar. the rescue operation as part of a crackdown scam centers and southeast asia, which often use traffic, labor, and trick victims around the world out of billions of dollars a year. milton group, hamas is expected to name 3 hostages today that it will release this weekend as part of the ceasefire. deal with israel and the ending the conflict and gaza as follows, days of uncertainty, and went to israel, threatened to scrap the deal after her. mazda accused the government of benjamin netanyahu of failing to live up to his commitments, people in goss, i meanwhile, struggling to survive a body of refuge account, northern garza, or what's left of it, one's home to thousands of palestinians. 15 months of is of devastating, more have destroyed homes, neighborhoods, nice memories, displaced and exhausted. residents return home with this letter to help them cope

with a devastation high as they have the life is unbearable. we go to sleep and to use and we wake up in t is no one to no one is even offered us a profit change or the top pool and for shelter. when it rained, we drowned in the was no way for go. so i've been in the what had this i can do, i'm just like, we are here and we feel very worried have nothing has changed. they said there would be improvement, but we are back to where we started at the beginning of the war. i was just no food, no water in this corner, everyone survives on canned food. and even that is cars. well, the bottom after the war, this seems like a new war. as you can see, there are no houses, no water. we beg, anyone, please bring us water. a water truck only comes once every 3 days. my point is that the amount of dish on layer, the united nations estimates the clearing the proper and rebuilding costs that we take years and tens of billions of dollars. and that depends on whether the

ceasefire and hostage release agreement even reaches the next phase. this also you as president, don't know which ones can to reset it regardless as 2300000 people to jordan egypt or of the append the u. n. 's human rights t says would amount force of the transfer of the international of $500.00 on the job. we only hope that life returns to normal. yeah, the clinic is open again, the okay. and we want food and water to be available again, or just restaurants to even eat assemble for an awful lot. but no, there's no income, no work, cause you can see we have the living dead and we don't even feel it. a lot of it. what is the, what we have enjoyed? no one should either experience for a year and 4 months, the world crushed us. we felt dist, approaching every day and thought we would die. the suddenly of uncertainty

about the franchise ceased by agreement is looming over the people of gauze and the future over which they have religion say we're now joined by is yours more rare or the silver? he's the head of you an ops. the agency dedicated to implementing humanitarian and development projects. welcome to the w, mr. moore or the so what's great to have you. thank you. is you visit, have guys or yesterday? what did you experience there to well, thank you for him. in the i did the visit the guys as part of the mission that overall so they went on there and, and see it in the west bank. and what i've seen him guys and the secretary by going to guys a during this worth time. that was that for station massive destruction of, for the, for such and also so improvements on monday getting paid, which means that we really need to do everything we can to preserve the ceasefire. the ceasefire. the succeeded in getting more money than 8 points that's on fuel,

which is distributed by, you know, we went from 100000 meters per day to 1300000 liters per day. the same, the progress can be shared, but not the air is off for many, $38.00. but we need to go beyond these basic elements of for the what the, the fuel. we need to enable the basic infrastructure to operate. and as you can see from your food concern, i've seen your, your foot switch now. and from what i saw that we are surrounded by rubble between $40.00 to $50000000.00 off. they re and revel the rebel unfortunately includes the unexploded ordnance, the, this must be removed. it's critical, but we also need to go through the other elements of it for such a 70 percent of only for structure in gaza, easily slide 7060 percent off. all houses are destroyed,

65 percent of all roads are destroyed. the cost that will be required to respond to the destruction of your 1st section and housing according to the world by can be you. is it on the order of $13000000000.00 that it's fundamental that, that we commit to provide them when they put an aide in the short term. but we also create the conditions for early recovery. i'm not talking about the reconstruction reconstruction. it is critical to i'm even talking about the early recovery basic waco, new york, like somebody recovery. i'm assuming it's too early to talk about reconstruction because this war has not officially and then we're in the middle of a very shaky ceasefire right now. but what, what can be an immediate response? the practical, what is the least of needs on early recovery to the removal of the rubble really additional fluids really, they shut off the water and sanitation. the net towards rehabilitation of the like

the 6 degree, the putting the post to the solar, the pull up the power plant, the functioning in the shooting that we, we have the also the conditions to the mind, to remove the unexplored, the parks this out of the neighbors for really close to, to and i know the try the often we tend to put the same thing that caught me, which is the nothing can be done until the war ends. it or the others jumping directly to conversations about the reconstruction. i would say that the 2 dates critical to provide over many been an a emergency age, but also to create the conditions. so early recovery, let me give you one example. i visit the or be in the hospital in ga. so yes. uh huh. and that will be an awesome the least functioning without the any connection to the what the system. so they are drilling what the, from the, from their, the neighborhood, without the any safety. the water is not safe and sustained. they both have

electricity because there was no connection with agreed to and used to have solar panels. and with the, with the war the solar panels had gotten so they rely on on, she was the, the general right. there's that to the, some of the fuel. it you like to see the are broken and the in the spare. the parts cannot be brought to balance that because that for the them. so you can see the storm, which is we thought the electricity without the water, the hospital, these functioning on that needs without the proper conditions. and i could get your, your organization, sorry to jump in there. but your organization works precisely on infrastructure. so should it be the you when and so. 8 of these 1st steps of reconstruction, who should be responsible? who should, for the bill as well? the social community must to coordinate to find the solution for

early recovery, which requires financing capacity and the right political environment. the capacity is there you are, you're not with other agencies. we are ready to, to provide the capacity on infrastructure. the financing must be provided and that's why the price will community. but the owners must mobilize themselves. but we also need political conditions and safety conditions for many months. for 15 months. we called at the operates properly because there was no political conditions and no safety conditions. and despite that, my colleagues stayed on the ground, might be a mistake on the ground. the un agencies we stayed on the ground even without safety and security conditions, but to go to early recovery. obviously we need to not only have the temper ceasefire, but we need a permanent says fire which requires negotiations, political will and diplomacy and it's fine. so whoever that is right now,

you're saying political will on both sides. well i, as i see progress in luck, let's not to overlook progress. the last 3 weeks were positive because for the 1st time, people could sleep without the hearing, the strikes take time. they've been sleeping in the streets. that'd be sibling under russell. so we, we need to bring dignity to the people in gaza, which means that people need shelters. they cannot sleep in the, in the rainbow, parting dense and be money for the adult. if we cannot build the houses tomorrow, at least we need the proper shelters that give dignity and protection for the people. same with what they're study, patient alexis, about the political. exactly. so i'm whole while you're talking about about the hope hope is good, but at the same time there's somebody in the white house suggesting that people

from gaza be displaced to surrounding countries. how concerned are you about those proposals and did you sense concern well in gaza? and talking to the people there and i saw people more hopeful this week. yes. so then guys, and then i saw that one. the other goal. why? because they saw for the 1st time that went to just having a 3 weeks that cease fire. so i really hope that the, the, the old part is understand that the, the ceasefire being for dr needs to be sustained. and we need to quickly move to the 2nd phase, which is thinking about the future of gaza. which is, you know, should it based on what you and it's been insane and you and it's not the when secretary it's do when member states it should be based on the 2 state solution which is real and powerless by having the right to have their own states and to have their own security and, and safety about the, the, the, the,

the plans that had been presented recently by us. i don't want to, to, to comment. i would just say what the sick general has said that the the recent base which is forced with displacement is not the solution. so people in cars or wants to leaving doesn't it? we need to find the weight to the, to rehabilitate them, to reconstruct the guys that the we the guys in the we the people, the guys i know it's difficult because we the amount of trouble that these they're doing this the would require a planning, coordination, and you know, once i felt when i was there yesterday, it's the, the same when you go to a, to a place affected by a massive s quick and wouldn't be able, after must've s wakes, and let them make local fusion. this was not the next week. this was not the initial disaster, this was a war. and the warranty, this choice is not the next it,

but we'll have, i believe it. there were unfortunately running out of time. it was great speaking to you. thank you so much for taking the time. that was you and executive director is yours more way or the so thank you. and that's what done by the,

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