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or dw postcard how to make greener choices in your everyday lives. but honestly try to do the working 32 hours a week to be better for the environment than 40. but of course we shouldn't be 90 the. the living scientists just had subscribed. whatever you listen to had cost the, the, the, the democratic republic of the congo, africa 2nd largest country, where the heart of africa beads surround the river of the same name. i've spent so 2 years filming here. i've witness don't have come go seasons. the turmoil of its
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history, the hopes of its people and its popular uprisings. i've also met men and women fighting against fight and send injustice. one of them is the doctor who for years has risk to his line by speaking out of outcome goes concha of impunity. this will be my name is dennis mcquaid. i come from one of the richest countries in the world. and yet the people of my country are among the poorest and the world knows the abundance of our natural resources. gold, coal, times, cobalt and other strategic minerals and fuels conflict which in turn causes extreme violence and abject poverty in the democratic republic of congo. democratic decal, but typically it's more over 2 decades. the con,
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the least people have been massacred before the eyes of the international community . the people of my country certainly needs nissan to be on business, bmw, of this one. since 1996 congo has been the scene of bloody international conflict, was for to have a pilot money and the countries results wealth. the perpetrators of these crimes accomplish hundreds of revolutions as my landlords, congolese soldiers and foreign i'm is the least master because of lead to widespread displacement the use of child soldiers and the use of rapes as a weapon of war. these crimes have been committed with impunity mass graves to being uncovered. the number of victims is in the hundreds of thousands. it may even be millions. how could such a tragedy come about?
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the the, to understand the democratic republic of the comb goes recent history. you have to go back to the 1990 is when the country was called z i. e, a boot to say say say can had ruled the nation with a 9 5th since 1965. but the aging and sic dictate this rule was coming to an end, the neighboring rwanda. a tragedy took place that would also
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have consequences. bizarre. yeah. between april and july 1994 up to 1000000 rwandan men, women and children with mask and most belonged to the to the minority. the genocide was committed by the army and by malicious of who to extremist, but civilians belonging to rwanda's who to majority also took pont. a touchy me formed an exxon in uganda in 1997 modest into rolanda and put an end to the killings. a new government was established in the capital k tale with who to spearing retribution. as many as 1500000 of them crossed the border into east and saw you among these refugees with thousands of on criminals soldiers and who to militia fighters who had been actively involved in the genocide, the
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the refugees crowded into time sent off to the boat to forced to live in extreme conditions, diminishes took them hostage using them as human shields against reprisals. who to extreme is also impose them that was on civilians. the aim was to continue the war and eventually re gain power. these camps were a threat to a land as new, strong man poll coming under his ally, uganda in president. giovanni must 7 in bozeman, won't the international community about the situation eastern just the region. would it depend upon what the international community kind of do and how sick today it's going to do that, sending the race and just throw seeking those to put them in those and addressing
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infinity in the region is for, for this. so from the photos of us, it towed to them and it was most what i'm seeing with to well the responsibility lies lie do with the international community from the some use people because we see the whole aim is to cut out the genocide again, which i'm not accepting the t for the international equipment, you cannot do something about it. we should have to do something about our systems. i didn't to go into details of what when to move when they come over to some of the, to, to remove these are messages from the board to, to deep in the cold according to the you in regulations. she had refused,
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as we are bid the international community to separate the people from the messages they had issues. so it was due, but so this was a public wanting to, to go to a they said that different the reaction is that a little trouble is what it is we want to provide the solution, loved them sort of a mentor lock of action from the international community gummy and was 70 made good on this ranch. in october 1996, a coalition of roland and totes the soldiers elements of the ugandan army and saw here in rebels invaded the territory of sy. yeah. the diverse group called itself the alliance of democratic forces for the liberation of congress for a f d l. it's rita was low home disease,
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a could be the account release. bigger who had been an opponent to president my bluetooth. i thought to yes, the plan to oust the o dictator and seize power. in contrast to meanwhile, polk economies, main name was to dismantle the camps, post the refugees to return to rolanda and destroyed the militias run by the perpetrators of the genocide, the but no sooner had the deal. troops cross the border, they carried down the 1st massacre. it took place in a hospital and lay mehta in the province of south keeble. the facility was run by denise mcquaid, then a young doctor. a few years later, he visited the place where the company's tragedy began. for the premium,
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a subject you say the 1st the massacre happened here in the hospital. so essentially the war started here. you put that you can get the how many were killed my love. yeah, yeah. my that the total to 30 patients and 3 of our employees. let's get the compass at the moment when someone can kill a patient in bed and not be prosecuted for the crime that shows the circumstances we're living in today. i'd be too skill new people. so if you did, you know who the rebel leader was, as i said, the book, no, not at the time was when division we had never heard of come below before the attack on the hospital down the street. but any legal consequences or the city never is of course, i believe that this is where the impunity began facing the situation developed quickly. the allied ami approach to cover the capital of south
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kiva. the city and its refugee camps were targeted by bombs and all territory sounds. the defense of october in this, in the northeast, to move it to not tuber 29th, 1996 because who was surprised by widespread shelling, boom boom. we will talk to a lot of bones the london shells were falling on because the food within days, those into that died, we will never knew exactly how many i'm exempt and woke. we buried them in mass graves on because the whole police started to stick with the cruise could no longer fly because they had eaten so much human flagship. and most of them are the dogs go by eating. the real thing for the use of goofy a much indeed because i'm looking through folks, you didn't even think, i mean why they needed to forward it. to me. they had gummies regime sent soldiers to destroy the cam, and we were bombed for a night and a day and some so we moved on because we couldn't stay on the rwanda's. i jo border, the one that is i of the book with the more there were many dads, one day,
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is there a wand and troops crossed in the boats and shunted us in the tents with heavy weapons? done that the massacre and exterminate us for the most likely was they said, i mean is this the cms i gave you? they drove us out. they said fire to the camps and drenched them, and blood rugs we had to flee from south keeble into the interior of the. yeah, and it's of interior design, the as you and human rights officer in contrast. so we were witnessing the advance of uganda and rwandan and burundi and troops across the country. so extensively led by a load on dizzy rate cuz the la headed the deal of this coalition was progressively advancing across the country. and as they advanced, we were receiving reports of large scale massacres of refugees
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in order to escape the violence. most of the refugees return to rolanda, but hundreds of thousands of them continued to flee through with the account release forest. the landon's and the a. f d. l soul, that is proof of the guilt began to ruthlessly hunt them down the latavia deformable. as we crossed the congo and the great forests on foot, you know, there was nothing to eat, but no water. no toilet is over. here we all age to begin with, both children and adults were emaciated to the bone. you may get a closer f one. did you eat in the forest that afford a significant if we, if we did in the forest at all, there is fruit from wilder going trees. implement anything that's not better?
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you can eat fruits or leaves if they even these ones here. if it isn't a bit or it can be eaten most usually on 12 on the, on the suitors show when we came across a cassava field and fed ourselves there, lodge of we destroyed whole fields. more than 20000 people were on the move and we had nothing to phone. where is it to sit out? so we destroyed the fields of the con, the leaves. sometimes we stayed in the forest where there was no field and no villages. those who got malaria or diarrhea stays behind, do this, the my mother died much to me. i laid her body by the side of the road and i kept walking with this is you continue. the results of abuse of g. d, one capital dumble. people no longer knew where the refugees were. they don't,
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the humanitarian community didn't know either and gotten they were scattered in the for us. do. we flew over the forest following the route to kiss on gunny and liberal tools. we saw a crowd in the forest, i made the lakes of which i had never seems as i may be invited to this day. i had never seen another credit like it update on the on the way back was it. we use the route as a landing strip and discovered thousands of london who to refugees starving to death and the florida. if you see it with a one day, the way the fire that up for you. so that claim, yeah, it was the 1st time i looked hell in the face, say all size the in a remote area and it didn't get to get a fast to monetary income void. traveling along the railroad line, discovered thousands of exhausted, dazed refugees. desperate for help, the
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today, there is no trace of the dying bodies hold a make shift comes the forest, swallowed them up, folded remains. uh, images like these with a little bit based on the baby in the river. it's not has, is it a live pulling in with the cost more than 200000 desperate refugees crowded into a camp but engaging the land and ami together with colors a f t l prevented aid from reaching them and eventually stormed the camp. perform
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all the media for mall buskey, the media i wanted to about 5 users were massacred in team meeting the very these are truth. searching people in power at the time wanted to cover all the old pump. they did 2 feet long, the sick one almost. i tried to look for usually the u. n. u london, who to refugees were being massacred in congress. they can't say they didn't know. because the u. n. h c r i was here in case i'm gonna need both at the time it falls on the balance of power, shifting and vapor for one the anybody after the cold war, bluetooth was to be removed. there's just, it's on. so people kept quiet. there's also and did nothing, you know, we have, there's testimony from, from congolese that route, that record the bodies were gathered, were burned, buried to hide, hide the evidence. that is a very serious group of crimes that were committed south of guessing, county that i think i have never, never been investigated to, you know, to, to satisfaction. so data people,
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one days they were rwandan troops desk and one of those they had insignificant congo. these leaders to sort of how you missed the comb, gleiss the fighting of a but they were one than truthful and not with real ones. and commanders on best on it easy. james cover a vehicle that was here himself, and another come under, who is none other than joseph could be lot a or they all to go like joseph gabriella. you don't, you who is here? your people saw him. you said, you know, you said they know about the master because i just feel that we of course, this is, it sounds good with them of it and nothing would have happened to my son at the head of the a f d l troops was real and an officer james come out of a a confidant of coming. having proven himself in the rolanda nami, he became a general and a leading figure in the rebellion. capital ebay brought with him, another young soldier, joseph could be the son of the rebel lee to the home. visit a gabriella. the own roots of tucson,
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guntee rwandan troops captured several 1000 refugees. they forced them onto a train and returned them to rolanda and g. o as oscar to receive the convoy when it arrived. but the humanitarian aid workers found was catastrophic. hundreds of the refugees died along the way. the
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. the a f. d. o. troops committed one master after another. the rebel lee, the home days, are you to be to did nothing. his silence was the price he had to pay. if he wanted to seize power with the help of the uganda. and rolanda nom is by now the rebels had conquered half the country. many young people, disgusted by the mobutu regime, began to support cubby. then, as the rebels marched in triumph towards the capital, they hardly encountered any resistance the most like we have huge armed forces. the rebellion is what's called a national democratic revolution of combustion as study aloud. what is your age?
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in other words, it's the revolution of an entire people and all its ethnic diversity rejecting the methods and practices of the malibu to regime. everyone knows it has been a police redeem and a blood thirsty regime for years be allowed to design it in the west of the country, a column of exhausted refugees was approaching. the town of them found a car. they had walked all the way from kissing donnie more than 700 kilometers. the last hope of escaping was to cross the congo river and reach the border. the book, the provincial this year, at the time i was provincial director of the red cross emergency services. are you the one of your menu for making the team leader came into my office and told me there was an influx of people traveling in and let's call them
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a diesel allows you to call on mr. tommy, not the only one away, but a lot of there is no end in sight. excuse me, more people kept coming native, thousands and thousands of them to do music even too long ago. as soon as they arrived and been duyka, they were massacred all along the road with the bundle, the to, to see the, the owner. this is you want to do differently about to pull. this is the port belonging to the you not truck transport union. this is where they were when and who to refugees had to take the boat and i get to i review more than 2, but the boat couldn't leave it because the boatman had fled, gone home when the rebels entered the tire and left stella. good. larry, for you,
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he's the refuge. he's got onto the boat and looked at the soldiers open fire on them all. they were all shot. he's also in moville and i found you guys to be someone that people fell into the wall. sure. if i took a $1000.00, maybe even the ones who were still standing on the key were massacred literally, massacre domestic did. did they boned, they dropping bombs and grenay by and fired bullets until you couldn't hear anything good. you know, they've cleared the movies and i think you told them fell into the water because that would others lay scattered on the ground and i shot it was a witch hunting. they killed us not to get in new to we must get sits in the killers. what are rwandan, tootsie brothers? and it to not, as i arians seem to be, but does that you what they were not congo least affinity by the since the, by the community and the something that i must say, like all kids on the collect to the bodies that were lying all over the streets so
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there's a whole curious little crazy log like dogs, the big mass grave here. and there read all the bodies to say cool. how many other cool people think a lot and if i point daily worked in the rain is one of the we picked them up with vehicles. it brought them here and through the man i must have done it back and forth and collecting them on, you know, we didn't have time to count, you know, hit the police on the, on may the 17th. 1997, a f d o. troops took control of control, so among them were rwandan and uganda and soldiers. after 32 years of, i'm challenged rules to dictate to mobutu glad. he died a few months later in exxon and morocco. home just as
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a be to declared himself president, to the surprise of his allies. 11 days later, he was born in, in contrast, as national stadium among those watching on with the african rulers who had supported him was no dizzy of a, b, g, b, d. the he renamed the country from now owns i yeah, would be the democratic republic of the congo. but as far as democracy was concerned, could be that postponed elections and binds political parties among his appointees . but rewind ins from his entourage, such as general james colorado bay, who was named chief of staff of the new congress army. by witness the strange victory, the conquest based on violence, criminality, and injustice. the united nations was not forth to move to hold the new president.
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so accounts so after the fall with contrast to the secretary general mandated and investigative team that was led by international experts and had full investigative capacity that came to contessa and tried to deploy in various parts of the country to investigate these allegations that we had documented i'm assuming i need to speak to it as well. do we respect human rights? both the speak to the was we have come to enforce human rights stuff to see the end end of the brutal dictatorships shown. so i need to the history of senseless killings. that is the culmination of 32 years of my boy to rule is on the subdivision to to protect himself onto his allies. carabiner obstructed any united nations investigation in contrast to you and investigators waited impatiently to be given a green light to begin their walk was on them so many
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months, if you don't, don't do monday we'll do is us through the whole unbundled deca and is that the issue the soon the luxury was you need to get us started an investigation mondanca because it was recently lost. it didn't, it was hell for me. the order came from contessa to wipe away the traces. so to do an order from president cabella, i guess you of course just let me know that we were supposed to take up the bodies and remove them. practical us. it is not good. i didn't can do back after a while the time myr came into the office. yeah, i did. he asked me to show him where we had hidden the bodies where we had a very cool of course that i'm imposing too depressed me. i said by mister mayor, i'm not going to do that. you know, if it is,
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you don't send me the desk gives you who i don't think most of another jeep came with a soldier. and with the news on the front door, he came in and angrily pointed his finger at me. because that's what you thought of already my bracket. who do you think you are? sure, the okay. i said, okay, to me through me could be a little a point. you general in the morning, maybe getting it out. let's get you much and we want you to do it best on. i didn't kill anyone. if i don't really cool. i just read the bodies, you can't do what he wants me to do. i wouldn't do it was your feeling. he's threatened me with his revolver monday to both and put it down and said, you'll see he was supposed to be kidnapped and taken to goma obama elections because she so i hit him with the entered, formed a team of young people for the operation. 11. isn't for much younger than they were told to take up the bodies that were in the mass graves and other places the shooting. they dug them up with machinery and dumped the bodies into the river is you don't if left. 6
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the room dizzy, they could be live. clearly they don't want this team to succeed in its investigation. the team was harassed and intimidated at certain points and in time, often in the field and after approximately 10 months between 19971998 of trying to investigate. they packed up left the country and submitted the report to the secretary general, who then in turn, submitted it to the security council. the congolese were against foreign, occupying armies that would come to the country's natural resources. so it could be, you're not trying to free himself from these old allies a year off to taking power. he dismissed the ugandan, andrew wind and soldiers giving them 48 hours to leave the country. the ro landon's return to take all the humiliated and angry. but 2 days later,
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they cross the border again. the 2nd congo wall was about to begin once again, the country was divided. comb goes natural results is a highly coveted, diamonds, gold, gold times co pay, co boat uranium in the east of the country. opponents of president cabella founded a new rebel movement, the congolese riley that democracy, rolando supported the rebellion and was pulling the strings. video. so no for this . the rebels began their disruptions all but the event. is it on august 2nd, 1998. not that we're still hearing shop is still burying thousands of dead. don't go to they miss all are you still? so how is this destroyed by farms and shows just like 2 years before for the same rwandans returned across the same border. there were massacres in all the villages and influences. what if he doesn't think they most likely
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do many dealer in the 2 above the soldiers weren't killing to defend themselves seen it. they seemed to want to exterminate everyone. agents with the villages burned. the government killed old women and children. they just involved babies for they were like wild animals. this is, i mean, why did they killed her brothers to most of them are come to lease by now that when numerous as malicious and rebel movements active in congo, all of them had external support from rwanda, uganda, zimbabwe. oh. and go to almost don't have come goes neighbors were trying to plum the, it's natural result is as always, civilians were the main victims. the
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oh yeah. yeah, yeah. but the big that. 6 the problem is that the break, the give bit, go on and off the i'm the
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consult with the limit to do, who do you think was behind these walls and mass? because the homeless because of the goddess concepts of the city is fairly about central. ok. much at 50, the main culprits, at least of the massacres, i witnessed were brigade officers and he has got, they went as far as could lead me and burned down all the villages of that up and there was colonel and me say belong, be ok. could name the mike mike oscar, and above all his deputy gabrielle a, me see, the good name was tango for. he became chief of staff the armies douglas who is going to bring this guy to justice shifted me, continues to carry a massacres. that me give others jesus and make it clicked into samantha, gabrielle, and i see one of the country's most brutal and ruthless one on embodies the absurdities of the communities was as chief of staff at the rebel army he over. so a mastercard of soldiers and police loyal and so it could be a but
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a few years later, he was made a general in the communities all me today. he's the armies inspector general. the vent got to talk to them and people came here to worship. on august the 24th 1998 st. bartholomew's day. the children as well as adults foam due to perform a love seat. the wand and soldiers immediately surrounded the charge of the one. the soul of just clearing the use of
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a lot and they killed the people with axes of the hush is 139 people were massacred . the additional 80. so right here in the church, on the cement only please is not the yeah you, we are afraid that there is still a militia here in the forest. go off. ok. i don't want to leave. we are not free deep. there is no security. you can, so this is how we live day after day. that's on those, those the, we don't know what will happen tomorrow. no one dares to say these things openly. could we, for example, which government army or group has burned down thousands of houses with hundreds of people inside this? think of this something visual or the lumen then, or no matter where the perpetrators promote it as a reward or to make people afraid of them. why it makes you wonder if the government even exists without justice. there can be no peace to become
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a general in the democratic republic of congo. you have to kill 1000 people related this one for division. and what kind of logic is that the violence was probably more wide spreading. the 2nd world of them in the 1st one . although the numbers of civilians killed at a so high and but in both wars. but in the, at the of the use of, of rape as a weapons of war became really, unfortunately very widespread. and, you know, unfortunately, we documented mosley brave must have killings, veteran involving tire villages or all sorts of, of, of massacres. that, that you can imagine the conflicting congo increasingly so multiple forces all finding each on to the east. that way even to foreign armies engaged in battle.
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neither rolanda nor uganda owned the territory. they were fighting over the day wanted it's natural result is designed, gunny comb goes the laundry city became a battlefield on june. the 5th, 2000. the city was boned, that were a high number of casualties. lessons because there were bodies lying everywhere. others were very by family members, me such as proof that the murder does, your name is up to a sick officer. it's like you have this huge little silly, cool. one of them on the bottom by the 6 day war was the height of barbarism by the ro wanda. and then you gone to an army. there were diamonds and gold traders. here all keys. i'm gonna use the full chrome between the east and west of the country. the foreign armies fund for control of the strategic mineral resources city. but you don't have, he is going to the i'm a goes is of
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a the you gardens were on my left victoria. they had taken possession of a trading post there. there were one, dozens were on the right. they met at this cross road so much just in those 6 days, no, 6200 bombs fell on the city near the default. everyone wanted control of the local diamonds on where they were a means to fund the war. but of course, it was also plunder most people p and subjective for declare the say, the soviet level. the goal was to secure access to congo is mineral resources. we put without any formalities, semantically, plundering congress resources. they might think that as a legal won't be, it's just too much, i think left next to my country is being systematically deluded and the people who claim to be our leaders are joining in. they allow the looting in order to get in our wealth and fame, be defended. medial,
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don't defy me though at the expense of millions of innocent men, women and children living in abject misery. the prophets from the minerals end up in the shady, bank accounts of predatory oligarchy, or the gosh, anyone who has nor is what is happening, is complicit. it isn't only the perpetrators of violence who are responsible for their crimes. but also those who deliberately look the other way to make the, or the see that it gives you the less the war has been going on for so long because armed gangs of rebels and the military or robbing congo of its
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natural resources. please booked. and i've always compared the democratic republic of congo to a jewelry store with no doors, windows or guards. everyone goes in and helps themselves. instead of that, the mineral resources could be providing us with a path to peaceful development. yet these natural resources are the cause of our misfortune and misery today. so we're one of the poorest countries in the world. it's in comprehensive goals. so the most of them do that i spoke with you sound would be that technology are going to be like older technology. this computer is being too good at all. it's components here with the state of war and basically it's about financial gain. well,
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this isn't a murder, mutilation, don't matter, which is the only, and we'll see that soon. cuz who lives in the community by school when i pronounce that, what is the life of the congo? use person worth 12 o'clock. so you get the impression that people in europe are prepared to do anything to get access to colton and gold. well, sometimes this happens unconsciously and just because a lot of people are unaware going to, but often it's deliberate and cynical. just look at how the european parliament felt familiar. now let's just assume shortly. mean the height is true. nobody's the law that we're choirs companies to check their supply chains. when procuring minerals is when i was only adopted by a majority of 3. that of a total of $750.00 volts won't work. so half of the members of the european parliament think you can kill in order to access resources to cost in depth to 12 o'clock. so what was, what's on for trip on january, the 16th 2001, a new drama unfold in contrast to president of the hall and as as
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a copy that was shot in the head by his bounty, god, who himself was then immediately killed. the reason for the killing has never come to light. a hastily convinced crises committee decided to appoint could be the son . joseph could be there as the new company's president, no election was held. joseph could be there was still in his twenties and had little political experience. 10 days later, he was born in the big democratic j. u. i must show, he became leader of a warrant on country when occupying armies and militia, when on split dominance. the massacres
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continued in case i'm gonna inhabitants in several districts, rose up against the roland and occupies and the allies in retaliation. congolese soldiers and police loyal to the government were arrested and tied up before having death throat slit. the bodies were thrown from this bridge into the rapids of the ciocca days later, the terrified population would see them floating on the river surface. we must oxford people triple positive dealership out a little help and all of that. so and plus, get the degree the master curse at the actual cool bridge, or lead by law home the couldn't the plot, he led the 7th brigade, which controlled kissing gunny. he was a military commander on the ground and told that most that same day was this desk was moved into the community on global history. i felt that anything that moved going cause they mainly targets a young man. no, i'm sure young people in general. what do you think? and they felt wildly it did. i pad made it model unfortunately was women and
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children also lost their lives as a result of these reprisals. you know, it is true that general m e c tangle for was there even come under bmw rebel now was also there about not a taylor metter. and then the operation was led by lower on the queen. definitely. and i shall surely sound as a bradshaw said, the little hawk window. yeah, home, according to was an aki typo going on. the come release. tootsie was a confidant of roland and president polk odami. during the genocide he took part in the recon quest of rwanda. alongside the future, presidents in 2006 back in congo with the roland and ami. he founded the rebel movement national congress for the defense of the people spreading tara and motor in the keyboard region sat. so as i said, look this up, this is our chapel on. yeah, this is our flag on our banner is just anyone who accepts that jesus is the king of kings. and the lord of lord is,
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is our brother. i became pentecostal and originally i wasn't a dentist. i just blew my kingdom on the spot. the. the underground struggle does not prevent me from continuing this religious mission. the shepherd has a duty to protect the sheet. if the threat is arms, it puts out in the shepherd must protect the sheet from that armed threat. does anybody be going to the system and this is our doctrine. christian righteousness said, let's just to seize mccook, the home, the condo had support at the highest levels. so that some money on the lake, him or not. and we split the mistakes. he who below the more comfortable for he has some political reasons, is that how did you, congo issued an arrest warrant for not going to the war crimes and crimes against humanity? he was late to arrested by roland and also it is. but he has never been trying for those crimes. it was particularly shameful that many of
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the people involved in human rights violations there were taking a plane and showing up in europe and copy code for medical treatment or for the shopping. while at the same time there my screen, the population industry itself can so so bossy, go my book campbell, or connect by 2001. the democratic republic of the congo had been at wall for almost 5 years. massacres and other killings as well as wide spread rapes that left the country entails. the united nations announced a mission to protect the civilian population. up to 18000 blue helmets were deployed to congo between 2002022, the largest and most expensive peacekeeping operation in history u. n. investigators. but also deployed. they began carrying out initial investigations in it tuesday. not that good. so on the last uh,
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i think the to either of your dealership sit there well enough to finally have it. there was an attack on a village to, with murders on the grapes and looting it for when we were able to speak to around 500 people who are living in camps for us. it was clearly a case of the mass killing of civilians. but we had not expected for the cases of cannibalism is on fire. we saw children with their arms and cut off to compare and that the people with scars avec this again, we listen to stories and we're shown pictures of mountains of severed head. it's the one thing that fits the sale of the hor was unimaginable the little. that's and that's in class boom boom. to go die on them. going into one of the numerous ripple groups movements, but the liberation of the congo was accused of carrying out these massacres. edits
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and was a wealthy businessman, young p at them by nothing in that because you see that you fish good. that's not what i be doing, but why now i'm gonna keep my cartoon, that'd be no, i bundle you what the bundle i'm gonna do today. i'm as se, se sick, i'm sec a local authority. i mean, i see go to meeting. you know, because i cool you quite a little while you're to be, i mean i'd be awesome. i can go. but both put that book on my little b as active as the key. you have to be like you don't want the jump. you have been a dominant vega from the province of x a to was the, to a financial tennessee that had close ties to ex president mobutu them,
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but also had the support of you can't, and president you over a must 70 who sent him, weapons advises and supplies, but his troops, them bows, rebel militia included elite to come on. those from the formats, erie and ami, labeled to jump out of the de twice john pierre ben buys soldiers. he had 2 or 3 days to get their pay by looting and raping that because they didn't get anything from them by may. so on said the shuck to me, they entered every house here, looted it and raped every woman they came across to the so flat stones, old month and bob will not be held accountable. and this is ex, a said the judge, a positive saying this is doing for this is a political decision of the person at the top would have to decide that the priority was to end impunity in congo nicole and to listen to the victims to
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because they let me know, tony was been by nasa brought to justice keys and benefited from one of the great reconciliations for which the congo is famous. in 2002, a peace agreement was signed between the warring punches with the blessing of the international community. the rebel leaders were integrated into the government. jump and bomb became one of condos full vice presidents. fully as late to joseph cabella paraded in front of all the heads of state. he had just one . com goes presidential elections. the 1st since independence so that people can devote themselves entirely to their work and do so and cease and serenity through coming compromise and maneuvering gabriela now helped the reins of power. i'm a do so for a long time to come. but he had paid
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a high price was off the boat, some of the more, you know, got better it definitely just website cuz it depends on the . 6 want it to be less policies was to integrate militiamen into the new companies on me. most was former rebels and many had committed atrocities. now they were enjoying amnesty. and on top of that, the leaders were being appointed to the highest positions in the military, limited culture of silence. and impunity was but brought back into the fold without ever being cool to account in pressure for peace in the congo when that's led to
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negotiations. where armed groups are in fact brought in to the convoluted military, but don't really change their, their colors. it's as we say in, in english. we feel that the fox and the end of the chicken coop and in fact make him an officer in charge of protecting chickens. and that simply doesn't work. in 2008, witness statements and reports were piling up, pointing to extensive atrocities in the democratic republic of the congo. as a result of the un security council commission to team to carry out a fact finding mission on the ground. $35.00 investigators was sent to congo, including 20 human rights sank spots. they were tasked with mapping the mass killings. the mandate only allowed them to investigate crimes committed between 19932003. the result was known as the mapping report. what was really important for me. and the mapping report was, this is the 1st effort of the united nations to try to document and tell the story
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of the suffering of millions of congolese and in doing so to try to put an end to the endless cycles, violence and impunity, violence and impunity that we've seen over though, since the beginning of since the beginning of congo. and then there was the word political trial. and just because there were many who didn't want this investigations to happen because they fear electric that they are not connected with that, that'd be lies. the, the region and uh, you know, bring out skeletons from the closet. when we deployed teams, they were finding out more and more cases and a one point they had to stop investigating because we didn't have time. so i'm actually convinced that, unfortunately, our catalog of massacres is incomplete as part of publishing any report from the united nations, our practice. and our policy is to share a draft version of the report with any members that concerned by,
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by the report. so we followed our usual practice and shared the report 1st and foremost with the government of, of the d r c. and we did the same thing with rolanda, that aware of several governors that put a protest age, particularly their london government. and that threatened to withdraw un peacekeeping troops if the report was published, they thought the report was based on, on allegations that were simply unfounded. that it was politically motivated in the ass that if not, that did not be published. and while the debate was ongoing, the report appeared even lamont, a french newspaper, it's arizona to fleet. yes, it was the result of a leak. okay. probably someone who did was not entirely convinced that the report would be published and it will be publish, it needs integrity, decided to link the reports the the
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15 to get somebody to pretty to deploy the pro, to didn't say to you or did you say such a prominent political figure organize this leak. at the same time, i contacted the high commissioner for human rights. i'm older and especially her press department. they saw that this project was under way and asked me not to publish the report until the final version had been finalized to the bank to majid function of assimilation on the past. so we refused and decided to print the report in front me visiting along to the diffusion just so i thought it was going on with all the facts and everything that is presented and described in the mapping report speaks of systematic killings in refugee catalyst killings of children and women, the description of these massacre is in their system. attic repeated execution
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could lead to charges of genocide, c the only see a country and that gives us some good. there's an estimate throughout the path to try to as this hector decision, according to the mapping report and the perpetrators of this genocide belong to the rwandan patriotic arming. this is one that is the regular rwandan army. so the responsibility lies at the highest level of the rwandan state. the homepage will succumb the in the wall to and say to you because of a quote conveying to trial. so crime is committed in congo. the court was symbolic and had no power. the hope was to raise awareness on the bottom of the but she saw bosh. this is the mapping report. so with its almost 600 pages,
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the report which i am holding in my hands. documents more than 600 mass occurs, committed by all parties involved in the conflicts in the democratic republic of congo. the shades areas are littered with mass grave thoughts, cool, new number you for the vector. so to be one day, this course should be able to investigate the question of accountability. so this is an indictment to sit down next to the doctor's office. you'll give me the word, freeze, and justice, which are written above this court room also applied to these massacres. needed to sol tall the teammate, the more than 1230 victims and witnesses of these massacres were interviewed by investigators seeing the key lays. the mapping report describes the violence that was committed. i'll say they both make love boss doing
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a l. l called lot. the database also contains a list of the alleged perpetrator. as of these massacres are rapes and looting. saves your the 2 se yasser communicate by the victim. populate the more, so least this blacklist is still locked away in a drawer or in a vault. i'll say that the united nations high commission in geneva for, for you give me some of the, of the industrials you need as your nave, patrick mall. you're virtually no courted, national or international can access it with the fuel knowledge. no fools or would we saw sort of, you know, most people problem as i speak to you here in a couple in a report is gathering dustin desk drawers said some kids know this investigation explicitly names the victim locations and they said you did that indeed. but
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the perpetrators are cleverly omitted just told me what needs to happen for them to be named. or hey neil it's lars. let us have the courage to name the perpetrators of crimes against humanity so that they do not continue to torment this martyr region. said joe martin in washington, the us senate foreign relations committee convened for an extraordinary session. it was dedicated to the congress tragedy, the impunity that its perpetrators continue to enjoy. in 2017, the us congress took up the stem. several companies big as close to president company that was sanctioned by human rights abuses. that bank accounts were frozen, and the visas revoked. the european union did the same, but was about congo itself to chance trip. i say you take a few dozen trials have been held for what's probably tens of thousands of
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violations then serious crimes. and i think that it's just a drop in the ocean would do. one of these rad trials was against jedi okey younger he was a key rebel leader and it spread tyra in the mining province of katana. in 2006, he was detained by un peacekeepers in 2009. the congolese, quote, accused him of crimes against humanity, torture, even cannibalism. he was sentenced to death. should the owner was one of the leaders of melisha in the region of concerned, but he was not placed in jail. he was placed in the thought of the see the communities armies mess we at the human rights division put all the possible pressure pressure for him to be transferred to an actual prison because it was
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clear that he was going to to escape. um, and unfortunately the companies are thought it is never concept seemed. he then went back to the bush and continued completing those crimes that he had committed before. then to everyone's surprise, key on google appeared in broad daylight and opened bashi in 2016 and turned himself in. he was wearing a top with a picture of president cabella on it. he was welcomed by the provincial authorities, and the governor guaranteed his protection. instead of going to prison, younger was placed under house arrest in an off market district of loop on bashi. more than ever be aligned himself with a dominance. political power became
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decent crimes and the d. r c, are inexplicable, and unacceptable love human life is no longer sacred. they're going to be with the country that you know or have visited, or people buried alive while the international community remains this island. and so none of us that like it more than 20 years, the un peacekeeping mission, motors go, has been tasked with the military rising to groups and putting an end to the violence. did require substantial logistics. and in 2023, it's annual budget. was $1000000000.00 emission has become like a state within a state, but what has it achieved? mischief to show commercial was supposed to look in all of this. the main question i ask myself is, if you try something for 20 years and you don't get any results from,
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isn't it time to change something? you have to change the system to do you have to change the method is of quite you. so that's the central question for me to show this has been show about as to below conger. how long will this emission continue for local? i'm going to don't know how long will the donor countries keep providing troops and money to the dish? is this, you know, small vocal to the income go mono sco is increasing the, criticized for its passivity and impotence in places like when you a key, a small village surrounded by forest. people here at the mercy of a militia, overland, and hutus, form a path of traitors, of the genocide who have survived the complex that followed. at night they invade the village in order to kill my
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friend designated by keith. it was a monday around 5 am. and the hutus broke down the door and came into the house every month they demanded dollars. i said i had no idea of what a dollar looks like you. i don't want, i don't want. i think that was too good. definitely took my daughter and her child and also my son and his wife. okay. okay. and walk down the street with them. just thing looking up. when was that sort of i then i shot them. whatever. medical folks like you have identified a political one. my name, you want me to win by name because one of them came with a machete to where i was lying at. if you could leave me a single blow with it. i didn't even prior to pick up my mother. so with that because um i looked at me and saw that my hand was hang on by a scrap of skin and i turned i know that after that i stayed where i was 199, but one of them was your car broke. we'll just have the voices, people not even today. and i just looked at me and hit me twice in the face with. i'm a chevy. i didn't say anything that i didn't even cry and i'm glad to hear that i'm
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because is going to the home on the school or the cool i'm a new school camp was only about 800 meters away from where the massacre took place . and the hop on the foot in my they were there, but they did nothing but equal apple men, women and children died when only when equal for. well i'm, i'm already to funnel at the door and we thought we had the best protection because we lived right by the menus go based on these. but in fact, the opposite was true when the me out will sell them. like you, me help up my mind that you think what the float is this. um, so did you say the men were dismembered or see that their throats were caught in the presence of the un and nobody reacted you just don't. they were not even buried on they were not thrown into mass graves up to 17 or 20000 blue helmets in the democratic republic of congo. could eliminate the armed groups in 30 minutes 0. so
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you know what their mission was to observe. so let me sort of 17, the interface of all these impunity congolese and get his boiled over. in contrast, people have taken to the streets to attack them on this goes bass, protesting against a peacekeeping mission that does not seem to deserve the name. the most recent demonstrations have shown that the un mission and congo is no longer wanted. a lot of people say all it does is coldly count the victims. if in fact, the real reason for the un mission is to prevent anyone from counting the dead and injured, we are allowing total impunity from generation to generation to lip an entire
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nation is being sacrifice. but the pendulum could also swing the other way. we are sitting on a powder case. in august 2016 violence broke out and cosign a prophy instead, had previously been spanned, yet 2 loans were set against each other. on the one hand, the power money and military strength of contrast to on the other. the traditions of the villages where many still remember the time when the chief, what kings on such chief was come we, nothing's apple. he wanted to return to the old traditions and rejected the old thoughts. you have to come to the stage on suppose ideas with match within to use the as a box. on august the 12th 2016, he was killed by the comb gleese army is dest triggered the rebellion, that spread from village to village throughout the province. it was a movement in which magic and the account played a role whose while as she and the show on threats,
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young people between the age of $6.18 could be seen everywhere, with red ribbons around their foreheads or on their arms. we'll throw dupel to eat . they had not 7 small wooden sticks of y 8. so these young people attacked the heavily armed soldiers, a c panel. more information on the media data to this is also when the soldiers fired the children advanced. it was frightening. they seemed to have no fear of the armed soldiers or so forth. they trusted the ritual they had performed, that'd be fussy and believe the bullets could not harm them. and to shepherd, battle it back before said, well, cook compatibility, a vertical total. we did these people mainly use the sticks and they were building
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and again state power the they thought the sticks could shoot bullets, but they also had some traditional guns. but it was often women and children who attached to the security forces to these on the phone. but it came to connelly's army harshly, put the rebellion down, rejected, amicable as yet either to present as if the or or not the i the the the both of those you by the limit will see that you got it kind of unique. well,
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the 1st president that'd be the trying to deny the mass because his information minister went so far as to claim that the videos that the atrocities were manipulated. but the imagery sparked outrage deal socrates, change that tactics. i won't be able to keep them up. that's good to go to. my country is the victim of terrorist attacks by certain, some harmed groups, particularly in the province of cosign into their aim, is to destroy the peace we have achieved. not pace, you show, man to undermine out development efforts. the development here, according to a lot of reports, the military invaded houses and killed people always under the pretext that they were terrorist. so i was actually the civilian population that book,
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that's how serious the repression was in full swing. the central government mobilized police from other provinces and sent them to cosign. heavily armed troops roamed the country, terrorizing the population because they tried to put down the rebellion. cosign became the victim of a seemingly unstoppable spiral of violence. the situation in the cast side regions is also deeply preoccupied with severe abuses against civilians by on groups and multiple human rights violations committed by congress. these defense and security forces. we were very disturbed about the increasing numbers of reports of mass gray sites in the cast size when the fighting was really beginning to to increase. we weren't able to locate
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over the period of one year, 89 mass graves get the relation of that is probably between $5.10 billions, being killed by the armed forces under the destruction due to that uh, displacement of 1500000 people. many of whom fled to angola during an operation, some police officers were ambushed, they were designed and taken hostage. can we not? pose melisha fighters proudly presents if the captives this time it was the rebels who filmed the scene with the cell phones the
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the salty off the woods. the policeman will be headed with the exception of 3 who belonged to the same ethnic group. as the rebels. who read the atrocities were committed on both sides on during the investigation. we came across the same atrocities as in key room. you to read as in rwanda, during the genocide from our physical level. so when it comes to violence, the central compliment clearly has the greater capability contrast to sent a special unit to conduct the capital of the province of cosign central visa, houghton soldiers. familiar with the task they had been given here when i get people yeah.
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a lot. yeah. those were 2 terrible nights. no one knew. they went from house to house, somebody as to who was a 1000000 soldiers. they went from house to house and killed everyone. they found 2 old people say good pregnant women, the children almost,
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those were 2. and i've been noticing the night in which they killed 417 people. that's why i say it was a blood bad that's. that's the only word for it. it was terror sensitive, got a mesh, super simple beauty was i won't let the, the, the brutal violence and congo seems never ending. the master goes to devastate to the country in keep to cosign it to the echo, to a good time to it's impossible to list them all. this is the such a do you have come to a country where violence is met with silence the
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about the victims at trying to break the silence in guns. some of them are getting testimony with the health of a group of lawyers. they get military officers to listen to them and recall and that complains the woman that you did the soldiers kill other people besides her son spoken with somebody between well but we're just going to do to yes, many in our village, the library, the people there where they died so, but you buried them of them. they of the soldiers you being what you're the state do with those who killed and wrapped in a new place. you on the thing you have seen a while names. i remember them. i thought it should kill them. too, but because they abused us gene to do my bill this into your name here and
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sign the young were others killed here and guns. so we're just your son to go to the killed a lot of people at that time. no one could go out to identify or bury the bodies of their children with and then they looked for boys in the houses to kill them, but to go back to the nightmare. but the reason why that is that because when the police said there should be no more boys in, in guns, a my beloved son to my beloved son. know, crying here we listen. so you should have stayed at home if you want to cried and much to tell them what
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happened to you. stop crying to my son. story makes me cry. this man here needs your explanation. so the state can do its job quite should be brief. don't cry as good. would you bond to buy the bond victim? indeed, i've done you to open the bottom. it came and did a bunch of, of both above the one on the on the news the,
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you know, the multiple to be to be, to go about this. but the super bowl about this, the bunch of the bottom above, above one itself was o absorb if it is, you'd be sick. one the of about the pick up been delayed or some problem, obama and the adult. but what the by no god be said of the saw. well remember golf found or yeah, yeah. if you don't, i'll put it seem to put me on the bus. you can go eat exemption with me. you ok. there is a link between the crimes committed in cosign and those committed elsewhere. and congo, should've said the crimes were committed by the same soldiers to sort of i was able to identify some of the units. all they are the same ones that committed crimes in 2013, for example,
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at that time the military justice system even demanded the rest of the soldiers that have never succeeded. implemented one name that came up in connection with cosign and it was that of general rule how humble, hey, then head of the military region. he was also identified as a perpetrator, who committed crimes himself, keybo keep putting some ethnic rule in by the way responsible. so notice in congo he executed soldiers, women, and children. despite old domestic is listed in the mapping report, he was promoted to general and nicole kelly's ami. he still holds this position today. he is living proof that the army itself inflict tyrone on the people, the perpetrators of what's going on in the can site today. i think very few of them fear justice may have confidence in the culture, the culture of infinity and that they can use the cruelest of methods the most
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vicious of attacks against civilians and get away with it. the just bed can do this a little bit. i hope one day these pastors will be convicted. so if i'm ready to testify before the international criminal court of it, what type of experience do so that these people are arrested and convicted? i think there's also, i think the issue shows you don't go, but it wasn't something that visual for the appraisal is associated. all of these people belong and present. it will never be enough. prisons, in congo for these people above the best thing would be to build a big wall around the parliament, the president's residence, and administer a student that i printed off the repair ticket and that way they be along the top in there for life and the products in january 2019 joseph
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cabella was forced to relinquish power, domestic and international pressure following a controversial election. felix to so katie, to coffee, says president, that has to be that really stepped off the political stage. and does the new leader have the will and the means to break the longstanding cycle of silence and impunity? the among the populations, things are changing. in 2020 people everywhere were raising their voices to mock the 10th anniversary of the release of the mapping report. despite the fact that the you and report continue to gather dust, survivors have come goes walls and mass. it goes as well as lawyers have been heating. dr. mac wake is cool and mounting side by side in peaceful, courageous demonstrations. the calling for the establishment of an international
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tribunal for these crimes which are excluded from the statutes of limitations. that way the victims can receive justice and the perpetrators can finally be held to account for those inside of the jose i dream of standing in a court room where competent lawyers make their case go for independent and impartial. judges, antigua impassive j. it's kind of fun, my dream that at the end of this project for the ceiling, the truth will come to light about war crimes and even genocide in my country. he's going to be the king of crimes that must shake the conscience of humanity. anybody see, it is awful. i dream that people of the great lakes region will forgive and reconcile thought of doing in order to plant a tree of peace. in the heart of africa the,
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these women and men that i've met in the democratic republic of the congo only make up a fraction of the victims of the horror of this country has seen so many lives have been taken so many voices silenced. so many names they raised from memory. what kind of film do in the face of such a catastrophe? it can bear witness and preserve testimony. so that the countless victim is that the comb gleese was do not disappear. for a 2nd time the the, the
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