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the making that'll be fun to watch the business day that we can years live frumber land that jeremy is. motors have spoken and they want change. conservative later fluency. math is sensor, become the countries next chancellor, after a record number of germans cast their ballots in the highest turn out since re unification. meanwhile, the social democrats encouraged chancellor shocks to take a hammering there. now the conservatives most likely junior partner a partner in coalition child says he will not be involved in negotiation. and the far right alternative for germany, the mc becomes jeremy's number to the party doubling and share of the votes. since the last election,
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the article fairly, it's great to have you with us germans have voted for change with the countries conservators cleaning victory and sundays. national election with the votes now tally that has become clear that the only way to one majority for flourish, masses, christian democrats, will be a coalition with the social democrats, the far right a, a fee. i've come in 2nd with a strong showing, but mass refuses to work with them as to all other major term parties. let's break down the numbers for you. mass is conservatives, as i just said, came out on top with 28.5 percent. the far right alternative for jeremy doubled their share of the vote to 20.8 percent. making them the 2nd largest party, germany's incumbent social democrats suffered a crushing defeat. dropping over 9 percentage points to 16.4 percent, the greens fell 3 percentage points to 11.6 percent. the left party fared better
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than expected. with 8.7 percent of the vote, the b s. w which splintered from the last party last year took only 4.97 percent. that is just short of the 5 percent threshold needed to enter a parliament the business friendly f t p also fell below the 5 per percent threshold and crashed out of parliament until a couple of months ago they were members of the governing coalition. other smaller parties together took over 4 percent of the vote. and we can now have a look at how these results translate into seats for each party and jeremy's parliament. the cd you will now be the biggest party in the bonus stock with $208.00 out of the total number of $630.00 sees the social democrats currently. still. the governing party will now have a 120 seats and the green party, 85 since the far right alternative for germany. now the 2nd largest party in the
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parliament will have a 152 seats. the link of the left party will have 64 and the election outcome leave different coalition options as fear, radical possibilities. one is between the conservatives and the far right. a b which would have an ample majority in parliament, but the solution mass has ruled down a coalition with v a f. d. another possible coalition would be with vs b davis option would have a swimmer majority in parliament. but as the most likely ones may have ruled out collaborating with the far right. and they can also bring in the greens to make for a bigger majority. but let's have a look now at how election night unfolded. starting with the conservatives who took 1st place a v o the said he, the cd, you and c, s. u, the uni of law of one. there's 2025 election, which ones is gone and previous matches. the man in the driving seat is clear
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winner of this election. he said to become jim and john sla though he still faces the tricky task of building a coalition, a center right, cd. you see if you block, receive the most boat. sparkly emoji in there. we're down to 50 percent. it's not the support match. wanted to laugh schultz will stay. owners can take a chance that, but his days is jim and his lead to our number is s b d policy. it seems it's worst results and then they're still election since the 19th century on and on for the the can also in the grounds comm raids face is a base every election results of the social democratic party talking to you for different types and stuff on it. i need to log in the alternative for jim and he thought he nearly doubled it, support the strongest, showing for a fall, right pause. he sits the 2nd world war in the post election discussion on public t. v co lead, at least vital, had her eyes on the lead visit. power was a honda solves cuz her hand decides stretched to take part in the government and on
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today we will support the cd. you c s. u. when there are motions that we approvals, if they go in the right direction and the well of the german people is clear as to what they want change when they wants to coalition between the f b and the conservative assessment brow spots. and already i think united predicted the conservative blog would not be able to form a stable government. and the a, if they would in time become germany's largest party, the man said his party had little in common with the i f d fucking this, the deductions you want to, you can reach out to us as much as you like. we will not see misguided policies and carry on this move from the green source. small dropping support, punished as old the government, which is what i think because among small apologies the last beneficial tr massage and support from younger voters. it was a campaign, dillman 19 bye, fits fios about migration and russia, a filtering economy. and the fear that donald trump is changing jim and his relationship with the united states. crazy man says he has
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a plan for all of those issues. but 1st, he needs to find out who, who join him in government. and i want to welcome in the studio with me now the w political corresponding julia so daily and young patient who's a director and political analyst at the razor group. so great to have you both here . let's pick this all apart. first of all, your take away from last night's results. well, the results were pretty much in line with prediction. so the polls were quite reliable. this time around that has not always been the case in the past. i think what was surprising is that it took so long to sort out whether those 2 small parties would make it in or know or not. because that was so important for the question as to whether you can form a coalition with 2 or 3 parties to be the decisive question of the night. you know, other than this, you know, it will be probably a coalition of weaklings. the, the, the conservative result was, you know, the strongest, but wasn't strong. the social democrats last massively that was a slap in the face and they will still be in the next coalition, very likely. so the mandate will be weak and all of that in the face of
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a massive international and national challenges. you know, that's going to be a rough ride. yeah. and historically, bad results for the social democrats who's to blame. is it all shots? mean, if we look at his popularity among voters, possibly, he's one of the possibly the most unpopular chancellors in, you know, post or german history. and they're likely going to now be consequences for shows a he's unlikely to actually continue to have a relevant role in the party given these very catastrophic results. we've seen coming from the s p d. so some of his leaders saying that it's time for a new generation to take a charge with the party. and you know, it has been a say decline for the part. and clearly something has to change starting with the leadership, but all so possibly it's how they, they approach what, what their voters want to see me, the incumbent or the, the, the man who's coming in now into the post solution that he has no governing
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experience whatsoever this at a time of unprecedented global challenges. is he the right man for the job at this point in time? well, we will find out very soon. even the the know the pollution talks that will commence maybe in 2 or 3 weeks time will be a leadership challenge. you know, to him, he will have to deal with a party and as p d that, you know, luckily is, and government again, you know, from that perspective a, after this mess of to feed and bringing this together. and then, you know, for getting out of this, a coalition agreement that is up to the challenges, the mess, if you cannot make prices. the geo political problem is that germany has that will already, you know, test them and perhaps bring them to the limits of what he can do and how he themselves, on the international international stages entirely on tested. he's done a couple of smart things and run up to the selection. he's reached out to many european leaders. so there is already a working relationship with some of them. so that's a good thing. but you know,
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at once you have to sit down and that you were being counsel building and hammer out a night. and i've kind of compromise. that's when real stamina is, is required. and we will have to see whether he can, can, can do this. he's on tested, yeah, he's on tested, he will have test drive and compromise. first. here in germany, do you see in the current political discourse a will and a pragmatism that will be needed to find a coalition and find common ground sooner rather than later. they want to have a coalition standing by no longer than easter. i think it is. i think during the campaign we haven't really seen that readiness for compromise, especially coming from sleepy. nancy was quite aggressive and campaigning against the sd and the greens and the other members of the, the most the actually the social democrats and the greens within the governing coalition. he had a sort of softer spot for the free democrats. but indeed, it was a lot of aggressive campaigning against them and basically saying, no,
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he does not want to compromise. we've seen that also in, in parliament now in january when he brought forward a migration motion that a non binding but which ended up being approved. thanks to the votes of the a, f d he came in with this motion saying, i don't want to compromise on this. i'm going to have my way regardless a and the people are now hoping to see some more readiness for compromise. going into these coalition negotiations because that's what parliamentary democracy is made of, is made up of compromise. and without it, it's going to be impossible to, to find in agreements to form a coalition, the social democrats, they're in a, in an interesting spot right now, aren't they? because they took apparently beating yesterday. but they are in a very powerful position now. so to say, because without them there won't be a coalition any way to a majority goes through the s p d. how do you expect them to play that? i mean, it cuts both ways. on the one hand, they're required. um, so you know,
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uh they can ask for a lot. on the other hand, you know, um if they overplay the cards, you know, they have no where else to go except into opposition and that's going to discipline them as well. i'm fairly confident that we would get a compromise. i mean, compromise of germany as possible. the big question is, will it be a compromise, ambitious one, you know, one with an agenda that really matters. and that is up to, to these massive challenges that i've mentioned before. i think we cannot have a situation where the conservative and the social democrats neutralize each other with their respective demands. and then they come up with the least common denominator agenda. i think what we need is something where that kind of ritualistic couple pete kind of falls by the wayside and something more ambitious comes out of it. that's the big question that i think will be answered in the next 6 to 8 weeks. and then we'll see, can they seize this historic moment, which is really out there and not just because of the elections, but because of so because of everything else around it that we find on the agenda today. yeah. yesterday we heard all of the leading candidates leading figures of
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the party speak at the same table together, the one who struck a more combative tone, i'd say, was the leader of the cd. you sister party, the c s u, and they will also be part of any kind of negotiation. what would be their power going into a really a 3 way talk to get it to a 2 party coalition standing. i think the 1st main point is that i'm sure the cd you is quite happy to be able to form a coalition without the greens being involved. we'd heard from the leadership of this the issue that for them it was a no go to have the greens in the same government that the federal level with them . so that seems like a possibility that might not have to happen and that might make it easier for them to accept the conditions that the social democrats might pose. the issue is quite strict on, on, on migration. they're also the ones that have pushing for the conservatives to,
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to push forward a tough or even tougher stance on migration. the social democrats and governments now have already talked in those measures, but whether they are willing to go all the way together with the cd you and especially the csu, were gonna have to see what kind of compromise they find there. mm hm. one party that will not have to find compromises because nobody wants to work with them is the far right and the they've been striking a combat of to. 1 own on sunday, of course, also putting again the topic of migration front and center. the amc co leader alice vital spoke to supporters on election night freezing her party strong game. she said to call us and without the a fee would be unstable and doomed to fail on the biggest. and as we see in the checks and polls, what we seen is that we are the only party who have doubled our position over the last election double. they want us to cut a numbers in half,
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but the opposite is what has occurred. one is most sudden and one thing is for sure, yet all we sign will always have an open hand is to get involved in a coalition in the german government, the will from germany is something we will implement. we are always prepared to fulfill the will of the people in a german government. the veterans in boston remains to be seen what happened in the next few weeks the the find this but friends of the policy because they know what we predict the curves
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that the c d u and then i carries out and election fraud on the a f d by copying a program and then entered into a coalition with the left wing. then nobody knew elections faster than you can imagine. and we will overtake and see do, and that is our aim. they, they'll be a political corresponded. matthew moore joins us now from berlin. he takes a closer look at the far right and the party, matthew, the ac, flying high, but no option for power because nobody wants to govern with them. where does that leave the country and the ac? a good question. i'll just move forward, and before i answer that question, i'll tell you what are my most sites the, the price comp is it will take place in the next few minutes with the pots and be those of the far right alternative for germany. and that's a huge interest and less than that really because for the 1st time and jimmy's
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postwar history, the 2nd biggest force in the german parliament will be and on to immigration. i'm to repeat, union, a part to the one institute, germany, i of the euro car in say a policy that wants to re establish relationships with russia. the is critical of nato. and for that it purchased huge question for the german political landscape. and for germany as a whole, and also it's worth just for members who the policy is. this is a party that in several of its state associations are considered right wing extremists by security services. some of it senior figures are considered like links to us. one of them can be, can be legally cold, ashes court has moved and this is a part of it is under suspicion as a whole and by the security services. and you have many for being a suspect. the case of right wing extremism. i'm, i'm just the part you that was the members of the been the stag until very recently wanted to, to, to initiate proceedings to look at finding the party. so know that party is the 2nd
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biggest force and the pin this dog. and it will become impossible to ignore me impossible to ignore, but is renowned jeremy's firewall. the board on sending here, excluding the fee from positions of power remains in place it crash someone a couple weeks back when you finish mass relied on their votes to push through a proposal in parliament. how committed is the man who will most likely be the next chancellor to this consensus? that's the big question. everyone has asked me speak to p possible to, to members of the, the last night of their election campaign evening. and, and the sense that the something had shifted without, without hope. because they know that if he is willing to do it for a loan by ending motion and the german parliament that he may well be willing to do it when it comes down to things like getting his, his migration proposals through the germans haldeman. and so what we had last night
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was all this fido say, my hands are stretched, and that doesn't necessarily mean for her that it's cool or less, you know, nothing. i mean, i think that the, if you will be looking at any monitor of way that they can influence that the next government. and as we had to could well be that, that government takes a long time to, to, to, to be formed. that could be a fight on stable government, especially if they are this, is that all disagreements over the space center, right? plans for it to tackle migration. and it could be that the se has been, it's been the only option for future mounts, and that's why they're standing there. and they're saying, we're willing to do that. i mean, it's worth saying that last night, while the leader of the party, the chimes like $100.00, fido was saying, our 100 are stretched to the center. right. the other senior, if that goes in the logical right of the party, telling journalist that they would not work with the central right until they made a clear break with the i'm the makeover era dean dollars, or he said was multiculturalism in germany. so there is a split like a kind of tension within the party,
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but the move in the sense that they can be united because they have just with gotten their best result ever. and all they have to do is just, i'm on the sidelines on offer to help that whoever was in power with when it comes to the issues that they the care about and on the core issue for them as, as migration. mm hm. but mathis stressed over and over again that he will of course, not form a coalition with the a fee just to make that clear to our, our viewers. matthew b, if they did come in 1st in 5 states and former east germany. what makes them so popular? there is a number of reasons for that. one of them is that there's a sense that in the east of the country, there's maybe not as much loyalty to political parties because of the history of, of the, the former east is another issue that is when you just look it, when you look at income net wells into how many do you have and there's, there's a, there's a strong correlation between things like how much financial security people haven't
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in the east. there's germans have less financial security than those in the west and, and then the more likely to, to, to vote for a party that's offering lots of solutions to, to the problems that you see arriving from the other issue that has played into the se, tons and in recent years, has been the issue of a war at russia's invasion of ukraine in former east germany. there's lot more sympathy and for jet, for russia because of in the shared history. that language is there. so basically that means that people, people, what we're court about that, and then the, the was the only parking one of the only parties. really a big me, big part to say we shouldn't be sending weapons or we should be. so should be constantly talking about trying to, to, to, to, to our through diplomatic channels. and so that for the votes as they are that, that, that meant that the, for the, if the, if the was the only posse really that they could turn to. and you also have to look at things like we've just seen in the numbers of come out yesterday. one of the
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most votes was the strongest party among the unemployed, among low skilled workers am. and is those, those are the kind of we know that the difference between the eastern west and jeremy that, that, that economic, i feel like that those well, economic, less levels less prosperous. and there's a, there's a huge somebody easily. so it just, it just comes, comes together to mean that, that, that the sd is, that is very much the stronghold. and what we were hoping for last night nicole was to score their 1st direct constituency of when in the waste, the former west, west germany. and that didn't transpire. having said that, they have gotten the best result and the worst that comes huge financial gain because they will get more money through the with the with that comes out. so just more of the normalization of the party, which is incredibly important for the party. yes. all that said, they will hold a 152 out of the 630 seats in the new parliament. how do you expect them to?
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we'll dot influence it's going to change the, the tenor of the debate and the been disliked hugely already the 15 was very loud function function in the independence stock and the constant g rag. now they're going to have more than doubled the number of seats, and then they had last time. and that's just going to have a big impact on the new to the atmosphere in the german parliament and the next 4 years. and as i said with that also without a huge increase in the number of members of parliament comes a lot more money that the cost can spend on professionalize the itself, spending on marketing and not not. so an area where the, the has really the head of the all the parties are spending on on it's m targeted. a i'm competing on selling itself on, on for so full platforms like tech, talk on youtube. and so the ability to, to get all this money that you see it comes with being
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a big force in the gym. parliament will be used to, to essentially sell themselves as the only and so they all tend to solve the problems that germany faces. and so that is why there was so much pressure on free, just match the man who was most likely to get a mix transfer of germany to establish a coalition quickly until to get a handle on the problems the germans face. otherwise the f b will be sitting on the sidelines, they, we audience and, and they will be, they will be very upfront. so for us, for many people out there, the government empower doesn't get a grip on the problems that i see that we use matthew moore standing by for us here in berlin. thanks so much. i a still yes. identity and you want to show are still with us here at julia, the big german party seemed to be at a loss when it comes to finding ways to windows voters back who turned to the far right, whether it be out of disillusionment or our protest. what are they missed it? well, i think actually what we've seen is,
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especially from the conservative see you the party actually taking on some of the rhetoric and some of the big topics that are haven't been successful for the sd and hoping to win back voters that way. for example, with civic mounts from the city, you actually really pushing for migration to be one of the leading topics of, of the debate and the last few months we've seen that happen repeatedly. and in a way, he was hoping that that would lead some of a maybe unconvinced cd you voters who might be considering voting for the a f the to say, okay, let's see. do you is now saying they want to be tougher on migration. let's vote for them. there are studies that show that this doesn't necessarily work it we have, it's happened in the past and other european countries in other countries in the world where actually when more centrist moderate parties take on some of the rhetoric and the discourse of more extreme parties. people ultimately go vote for
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the extreme party. and in the way we have seen that a bit happening this time to the voters that ended up not voting for the cd you this time even though they had in the past. the biggest number of them ended up voting for the sd in this case. so whether this strategy has really worked for the cd, you is a big question. i would argue that possibly it hasn't. you know, at this specific to the right. it's not something we're only seeing in germany as though we're seeing it all over europe, basically in the us as well. to what extent would you say that this is part of a broader trend that is not specific to germany for say, i mean, when you look at the european landscape alone, you know, it's quite clear that germany so far has been the total outlier. if you look at friends who look at the u. k, you look at italy, you look at poland, you look at a number of smaller countries like australia or the netherlands,
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or something's going to maybe in countries. and it's quite clear that all of these countries have moved to the ride. and in all of them, with the, except the exception of spain, there's basically no classic center left parties center, right part the classic conservative party, christian democrats. they're basically, they have all disappeared. and i don't know, splinter groups, germany is still the big outlier where a classic, you know, send to right party like the scene to use use you can, you know, score near the 30 percent mark, unthinkable in other places. so, you know, germany's kind of late in that, in that development and, and in order not to fall into that same truck, you know, um, as the french conservatives who are basically non existent, you know, if we can estimate this gun. but he, he said, you know, we need to gain back something to bring space on the key issue that drives the far right migration. it will initially hurt us. but we need to strategically gain back this, this kind of, you know, i'm going to bring space, uh, you know, the ability to act on that issue. because otherwise we just give it, you know, for free to the far right. and,
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and we build some sort of to boot around it. and if you can talk about it anymore, they will, when you give it to them for free. so he's trying to break. so i think it's a longer gamble. i'm not sure it's going to succeed, but it's the desperate attempt of the last center right party in europe standing to not fall into the same trap that the others have fallen into. if they can successfully, no change migration policy, remove a part of a real problem. this is not just an imaginary file, right? problem. that's a genuine problem in germany and elsewhere as well. if they can, oh, you know, straighten this out. tough for me, migration policy without you know, a going and into extremes, then they might have a try needs to not fall into that trap and, and, and, and to escape the fate that other centrist party is on the right. you know, i, we're unable to escape, are the social democrats going to do them the favor of assisting them in that endeavor? yeah, that is the big question. i'm, we have already seen with the social democrats and government also on their part,
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i would say move to the rights on issues like migration. they have have to tough in their rules on, on asylum, on a expelling asylum seekers who have been refused. and they, this has been a big part also of the last few months of their, of, of, of their government. and they managed to push through these, these measures also in a collision with the greens or on migration have a or at least used to have quite a different stance. they might be forced to go along with some of the, some of the proposals that the cd you wants to bring forward. because that's the only way that a coalition government will work. and the social democrats have said they want to be responsible. they wants to do something for the, for the good of the country. the question is also what kinds of proposals the cd was going to bring forward and how sort of a tough those are going to be and,
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and whether the espy the can actually, you know, explain that to their voters who still early days a lot remains to be seen what we do now is that there has been a lot of international reaction to this mode among many world leaders congratulating pollution. matthew, as president donald trump celebrate of the election result in the social media post saying the conservative victory was a great day for germany. and the u. s. a like trumps confidant. type, building or a long lost endorse the far right alternative for germany, for the end of the mode. last month's last game, a virtual address and an f. b riley saying, quote, only the a fee can saved or me something else so posted on his social media platform x or for this man has been critical of musk support for the if the saying it resembles election interference by russian or was it didn't dive into the interventions from washington where, you know, less dramatic and impertinent than the interventions that we have seen from mosque also, and the goals most often. so, you know,
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we are under massive pressure from 2 sides with adult. us, furnish maps, speaking last night. well, just a few days ago he started, he was shocked by donald trump's comments about ukraine, saying he had picked up the russian narrative. he's also spoken about achieving more independence from the us. we asked to go be a corresponding benjamin alvarez if he thought we were going to see a transformed relationship between berlin and long term ally, washington, or it will be a different relationship, but it remains to be seen how exactly this different relationship it will look like there are some recent statements from, from previous math that are quite remarkable. 5 low during a debate. after the 1st exit, polls came out. he sharply criticized the trump administration. he said that his priority is to achieve independence from the us. when we look at defense, he said step by step. and you also mentioned that one of his main priorities will be to strings strings from europe as quickly as possible. and he said that last
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week statements from president trump, it made clear that at least his administration, it pretty much no longer kaz about the state of europe. so pretty is strong, was that from if we chris match, the said it's not certain what the future will hold, like for nato, even if there's a in a european alternative that might be needed ahead of the next day. nay to somebody in the last thing that you mentioned was calling out what he said was intervention by eel on mosque. one of the most important advises of president trump mats, even equated intervention from washington and from moscow. so that's quite a remarkable stem from us. efforts to benefit the far right alternative, if for germany party that you mentioned to you are giving a lot of ad time it to the spider on accident, also repeatedly claiming that the only party that can safe durham needs be 50 or so is benjamin alvarez. speaking to us from washington there, let's give you a quick recap of last night's results of germany's parliamentary election finished
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masses. conservatives came out on top with 28.5 percent. the far right alternative for germany doubled their share of the vote to 20.8 percent, making them the 2nd largest part in parliament, jeremy's incumbent. social democrats suffered a crushing defeat. dropping over 9 percentage points, points to 16.4 percent. the green spelled 3 percentage points to 11.6 percent. the left party fared better than expected with 8.7 percent of the both of b s. w, which splintered from the last party last year. only it took 4.97 percent just short of the 5 percent threshold needed to enter parliament. the business from the f t p was part of the governing coalition until last year also fell below the 5 percent threshold across out of parliament. other smaller parties together took over 4 percent of the vote. following during the election on sunday was the
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3rd and support for the far right. international leaders swiftly reacted to the results of the polls that we as we just mentioned. donald trump gave a support on social media on french president, emmanuel, i call, and british prime minister to your storm or congratulated mass and emphasized strengthening european ties. the training president will let him use the landscape, also commented on the results of stress. the results significance for year of a while far right leaders celebrate as the alternative for germany, for achieving a historic 2nd place. finish the move. no, i let's bring in our corresponding rosy virtue and she joins us of from brussels, where you, foreign ministers are meeting rosie, how of your opinion leaders so far been reacting to the terminal election results. we've seen congratulations pouring in from leaders across the european union for mr merits. he's received a call from the lakes of emmanuel macro and the french president. and there's been, i think, to really key messages from foreign ministers filing into these talks and brusset
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this morning that i pick up on. first of all, we've had messages from some, for example, the irish ford minister saying, look, a strong germany is essential for strong your opinion. you'd remember germany is the biggest economy in the u, but as also as the most populous country is seen as a big diplomatic heavy weight. and then there's also this concern of bites at this of there's also they're looking really for a quick formation of the coalition in germany that semester we heard from the use foreign affairs chief kaya kyle us. she said that the decisions at u level need to be taken and they need to see germany getting his act together quickly. and here at this meeting, they're talking but everything from the situation in gaza to the d. r c. and of course above all the situation that you create, and that's one thing that's really clear this morning of these talks, is that the world will not wait for germany. that is something that so as math and said over and over again at this election does come as a very uncertain time for the you and the world for that matter. so far i parties
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recently making strong games not just in germany. what does this mean for the you and political cohesion here as well? what we've seen in general notice in germany as alluded to, is a shift toward the right. so as of right, which is from the center of gravity of european politics. and that tends to have a couple of results. so potentially a more restrictive migration policy that's been to try and proceed over the past couple of years that may push up against some european union laws. we'll see how that plays out. and then also we're expecting a push also in terms of the regulation. so trying to cut red tape and reduce european bureaucracy. now you will see the likes of claimant. campaigners sending the alarm to back that question. what that means for the future of the ease green deal, and on the other side of the debate, you'll have those who say, look, if you wants to compete the likes of china and the us. but it simply does need to cut this bureaucracy and managed to step up there. and when it comes to the rise of the far right, that's something we see across this confident. but also,
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let's not forget what this means is that with the likely outgoing of german chancellor left schultz, that also deals a blow to center left politics across this book. that's something we've also seen in the past couple of years. we've seen the leaders of portugal, but also finland, switch from the center list to the center, right. so there will be some, some sort to not only in the social democrat accounts in germany, but across the european union. today also mar, 3 years of the full scale war and ukraine. what will ministers there in brussels be talking about, especially in light of. 3 very probably changing of the guard here in berlin. yeah, absolutely, and i think quotes been clears that donald trump's presidency. and his recent overtures towards russian president vladimir putin have really sent shock waves across these content. we've seen over the past few days, a race to get leaders together to huddled together to try and make big decisions to try and run pop european defense spending. but also for c, i'm a must have boost to european support for you create. and there has been
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a sense that i've heard from some different lots to look they've kind of had the wrong vine in the room when it comes to germany with the white spread expectation that olaf schultz would be on his way out. so they'll be hoping to hear from friedrich mertz, he's so far seem to have made a clear that he wants to remain as a staunch backer of ukraine. but there are some decisions that needs to be taken. there's a paper circulating here among different you countries on options for how to ramp up that kind of support to ukraine. one of the options in the table is looking good joint debt, joint ball room to try and find out some massive increase in defense spending. that something they will be looking for. signs from on berlin, on high pallets, book that might be certainly be controversial in the past, in terms of it, german response to potential eager joint that yeah. math as shown, a much more hawkish stance when it comes to ukraine, especially when it comes to weapons deliveries. what does brussels expect from him
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and ears to com? yeah, we'll just stop chase, but that's comes into power at that time when the european union is, is experiencing a real tectonic shift. there's been so much debate here, but how exactly to respond, especially to us president donald trump, and we've seen over the past couple of weeks you leaders looking to kind of contradict trump administration, particularly on it's assertions about the death of the president zalinski. if you create some aquatic with, with just embassy, but not to go so far as to criticize them at some different, less, i've spoken to hear this talk this morning, said they were surprised by just how far freed merits went. in terms of his criticism of the trump administration, i think what we'll be looking for from germany is to see if i don't how much they are willing to continue to spend on support from ukraine. one of the proposals was on tate on the tables at your teen ministers. i say gathering these talks is looking at a boosting and ukraine support in terms of gross national income. germany,
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as the biggest academy in the european union, would continue to be the biggest contributor to that. so they'll be looking for science in terms of spending, but also of course, in terms of that kind of more hard on the ground power. we're talking about the weapons for ukraine, and then let's not forget, there's also a big debate going on here in your about whether an fought for european of potential european done to like peacekeeping force could like look like. and you cravy, seen so far from the united kingdom, taking the lead on, not saying they might be willing, in some case, during the latest part of a deal to send their own troops and to back up a future seas far so far. the german perspective undetermined tests are all left. schultz is be very much there. any discussion on that is premature is going over ukraine's head. so they'll be waiting for signs from a potentially, from the, from frequent merits and under a potential new term and government of whether there might be a change in position on that too. as far as a furniture from brussels. thank you. always great speaking to or
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an to show of the ratio grove and our very own julia. so daily are still here in the studio with me, young wherever you put a few minutes to move on ukraine. i mean, his instincts are a lot more robust than those of all shots. he's criticized charles many, many times for being to be loved and always be behind the car off on this, you know, delivering too late. and, and so his instincts are there to be a lot more robust also, you know, to increase germany's military role in general. but when it comes to, we know how much responsibility, so if the country take, but there is, there are at least 2 problems. one is a coalition partner that might not be as forthcoming on these issues. and we've seen that in the past. and then there's a physical issue. germany's last government basically collapsed over an unresolved fiscal issue that new government will inherit. this will have to, you know, come up with a budget process for the 25 budget because we don't have one for this year. and at the same time, one for the $26.00 budget. and you know, there is
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a fiscal cliff on defense spending a bit further down the road. nobody knows where that money is going to come from. to finance, all of that additional, you know, international emission that germany needs to show. and that also clearly as we've just heard, the repeating partners expect. so that's going to be one of the biggest problems. the s p d might be forthcoming a little more than perhaps in the past. whether that big fiscal problem can be resolved as entirely unknown at this point. yet. where does that german public stand on ukraine, julia? well, we've seen, you know, in the 1st phases of the war actually quite big supports for, from the german public, for financial and military support for ukraine delivering weapons. and the problem is coming from german politicians that they would support a ukraine for as long as it takes. we've seen that support the waning going down. over the years. we've seen the energy crisis that was a consequence also of this conflict in germany. take a toll on, on people here,
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inflation going in up, and this is something that has also been a big issue, a big topic, debated in this election, campaign, inflation rising cost of living. and it is connected also to, to, to what happened in ukraine and people see how germany is putting now more money that it used to. and it's defense and in support and ukraine, militarily. and you know, this is also played a role in terms of support for parties that are against support from, you know, more support for ukraine looking at the a s d, but also in parts to the, to the left lab hardy. and yeah, let's say that now after 3 years that you know, strong support for a so much military spending on ukraine has, has dropped yesterday. manse news about the possibilities of i haven't written down here in independent european defense capability to replace nato. and he stressed the need for a greater independence from the u. s. is the cd use historical trans atlantic?
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isn't that? no, i don't think it's that at least not, you know, coming from, you know, at least not the seed. you filled it as a reaction to it. so i mean, every action to a change situation. indeed, you know, germany is more than other big countries in europe, dependent on us security services. this kind of new term that the trump administration has brought to that narrative. basically challenging the entire we're being security architecture is heading germany, you know, you know, absolutely smack in the face and the seed you was reacting now by basically saying, well, you know, we need to adjust. we have to work with the trumpet administration as it is. but at the same time, it's quite clear we need to ramp up our own capacity. we have to be more independent as europeans. we're not always saying loudly enough that this means the drum and you will have to come around to most in your room. you know that most of the, the, the, the, the bill will be, have to be funded here. and the, i've just talked about the, the, the fiscal situation, perhaps one thing to add, which i think is important. you know, when we come to, you know,
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we'll folders and germany will population support. this. my sense has been over the last 5 to 10 years actually, you know, going back to the finest fund debate that yes, people are not, you know, dumping out of the plans, you know, because they're, and so, you know, ambitious internationally. but if you make a good case, if you explain this teasing necessity to them, if there is some leadership coming from the top level, explaining the necessities to them, they will come around. the bigger problem is the, the, the political leads themselves. the problem lies. but the burden bubble more than it does with the people out there. and so i think the, the balloon bubble now has to do a learning curve on that international commitment side for germany. that it hasn't been willing to do over the last 1015 years. yeah, that would you agree with that assessment? i think so, and i think a lot of it also depends if we look at it now. if we assume that it's going to be a collision between the conservatives and the social democrats, what happens also in the leadership of the social democrats, we've seen that, you know, shows and who sort of
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a group within the party were always more skeptical, more prudent, when it came to supporting ukraine, not wanting to deliver long range missiles and but there are parts of the party more prominently represented. for example, by defense municipal was the studios who were a more hawkish on ukraine, who wanted to do more and were more decisive and wanting to support ukraine, but also to increase the capabilities of germany's military. and if this party, this part of the party now, gaines more relevance given the big defeats that was taken by all of shawls and sort of his leadership of the s p d. we might see some change there, i would say, and it could make it easier then to work together with of a cd you to find, you know, a more common approach in, in the issue of ukraine, but also in general of european and german security. thank you. to for the time being, well, have you stick around, but we have to take another look at some other topics making is around the world.
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you're watching due to a special coverage of the fall out from germany's parliamentary election, were waiting for news conference by the parties beginning with the far right. a of the in about 15 minutes. that is expected to happen. that's turn to other news for the time being a dozen leaders from europe and canada have traveled the frames capital to mark the 3rd anniversary of russia's full scale invasion. arriving by train. the group includes european commission president was a funder line, and canadian prime minister justin true though. the delegation also includes leaders from spain and baltic nations. in addition to attending anniversary events, the visiting leaders plan to discuss support for ukraine as us president donald trump. 6 warmer ties with most scale corresponding currently nationwide is reporting a from ukraine's capital key and joins us now. what's happening where you are today?
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how are people their marketing best carmano bursary? but of course, and colleagues, the sat on the 1st, sorry, were you talking about 3 years off war? on the day before yesterday, ukraine had one of the most strongest attacks coming from russia. 267 drones were flying over ukraine. it was pretty loud during the night, so that's already very telling 3 years of war and they all wanted to be over. as you just said, there's a huge european delegation here. the president of the commission was what i found online is here with at least a dozen commissioners here. also prime minister 2 doors here, different defense ministers and also a foreign minister. and they are all gathering to talk and see if they can fill that gap because we call, if we recall what we were talking one year ago, it was about the fighter to it's f. 16 from the united states. and the huge,
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the paid was from the united states. so we send those higher jets or not. now we don't even really know where the united states is as tanning, so the european union is marching this moment and showing we send to gather, we are ukraine. we are in t of on the 3rd anniversary, and they want to try and seals a gap that the united states might be for heights. so it's more to talk about and stay with us for a 2nd. i want to take a look back at how the war has unfolded over the past 3 years. the brushes invasion again just before 4 in the morning, orlando, from the air. soon afterwards for some tank, started rolling over the boat into grade. 10 days later, russian troops had reached the key of suburbs. betty twins loved preference landscapes of downtown keith. people could hear the 35, the edge of the city. the rest of the troops had underestimated ukrainian
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resistance. passive to stretch the logistics, fire and april. you created, pushed crescent troops out of the key region as they did so. they came across the 1st evidence of personal trustees like here and put you these with the scenes. and so we took the city month registration, beginning in september, ukraine. we took thousands of square kilometers, attaching the south and east of the country for ukraine, and can hardly fostering the previous votes him versus ami. went for slow. instead he advanced least of to 10 months or so called me, cried the seat, rushing captive. what was left of the city about much more than $60000.00 russian soldiers are estimated to being killed or wounded. taking the city often months in speculation, months in which russia was able to build defences, lay mine fields, grain launched its long awaited counter offensive results. amiga ukraine was only
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able to shift the front line by a few 100 square kilometers. this was something, no one had expected. ukrainian troops on russian store with the front lines in the south east, well defended every mind. ukraine struck the most of the least expecting it in a couple of days. ukraine to take him to town a suggest surrounding villages. in january 2025 grand stepped up its long range. during the tax on russian oil facilities became was to disrupt the fuel supply to the russian army, as well as reducing the criminal export ratings to this versus invasion of ukraine, which is the 3rd anniversary. rush, it controls about 20 percent ukrainian territory. 12000 credit civilians been confirmed killed before the 30000 injured. the truth is, i believe, to be significantly high, a mystery casualty because it kept under wraps on both sides. so 2 estimates put the military desktops at 80000 of the great insight with 200001 the russian side,
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with many more wounded. carla mentioned y as in k for us is currently not ukraine. good. now we losing the us support. it has so heavily relied on up to this point. where do you see the war going from here? that is a big question. they call a presidential lensky and his seem. they're trying to get to deal with the united states. we're talking about the heirs a deal where the united states would be allowed to be paid to, to, to have some access to the rare, or it's an in ukraine. and therefore, presidente lensky and his team. they would expect security guarantees. however, that deal is still being negotiated. because presidents are lensky said yesterday, that the united states that does not offer the security guarantees that they need, that he cray needs. he mentioned that the crane would need around $800000.00 soldiers underground on
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a peacekeeping mission. if it comes to p as in order to guarantee the security of this country, he also said yesterday, during the press conference, that he would be willing to step down as a president, if you crane would be a member, would become a member of nato. now all of these are things that he has been mentioning and during different times, uh but the united states as said that after that talk with to president trump and put in that rush, i would not accept that. so that is a situation where in now i'm president zalinski knows that they have to rely on the european union. but the big, big question is if, if the european union could really fill that gap. and this is why your opinion leaders are gather today here in key of also to, to, to talk about that. but still the relation with the united states and between the united states and ukraine will still be one of the most important ones. yeah, you mentioned that press conference that took place last night where president of
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the landscape said he'd give up his post and exchange for peace under the security umbrella of nato. let's listen into some of what he had to say. we should have that sound by here and see if we can play it. steve cranium president took to the stage to answer journalist questions. on the eve of the 3rd anniversary of russia's invasions met fierce criticism from the trumpet administration below the mirror zalinski state firm and his push to get security guarantees from washington. and eventually joining nato. when asked if he would resign and exchange for peace, 3 and so on. so he said he's prepared to step down if needed to locate and you have to achieve peace. you really need me to give up my post. i am ready though i can
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trade in for new tools and if there are such conditions, if you think you're more but at this moment, i don't want to talk about it for a long time. yeah, because i am focused on ukraine security today. so not in 20 years, lots of i am not going to be in power for decades. of a lot of the they said that each of the lead us president donald trump has demanded that ukraine gives us $500000000000.00. invaluable raw materials as a pay back for american aid. so lensky has rejected. the demand goes by the negotiator, by then and negotiated with the congress of the united states of america. simple up as i am grateful to the congress. if you think there was bipartisan support for the grant, a grant is not a debt, even then we do not have a debt to repay ukrainian, president added, he would not agree to deal with that would have to be paid off by 10 generations of future ukrainians so once these comments are followed or heated exchange with donald trump locus last week called him
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a quote with the dictator without elections of the cranium. leader said he was not offended by trumps remarks. that's something you have another minute. i would not describe the words president trump addressed to me as a compliment to put it mildly. yes, but why be offended? one might be offended by the word dictator. if he was a dictator, holland, simply not, i'd take it like this. what can you do done? touch it says, what am i? yeah, we will live with the us. some homes on the lensky, also called on trump, to meet with him before any summit with russian president vladimir putin in and maybe deal now. so contin, then carly, another in case our president, the landscape remarks last night received in ukraine where you are and abroad. can you repeat the question, please me? call. how are those remarks? the fact that that letter is the landscape said that he might be willing to step down and exchange for security guarantees and,
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and peace. how with those received in ukraine and by a friend the allies everyone wants a piece me call. so i know nobody really had anything to say against that, but of course a, there could be a presidential elections and that's what people probably would like to see when it comes to peace. because right now, no one's well, no one wants selections here, and it would be, it would be a big challenge to have elections during war because there's so many soldiers at the front. i'm also something that presidents that is key mentions yesterday house . could you secure to have observers in the country if there are so many frontline cds where it's just dangerous to be? and so it would be pretty impossible to have presidential elections during a war time. but if it comes to peace, once peas is here, and ukraine, of course, people would like to have elections and presidents that lensky why not? my perhaps also be a candidate during those elections. but his words, the city,
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we're just underlying how important it is for him to bring peace back to his country and to guarantee that security that ukraine and it's now and also for the coming generations to see that we is currently nationwide and keeps thanks so much i let's take a look now, it's a lot of stories making news around the world today. hope francis has asked catholics world line to pray for him as the battles pneumonia and the complex long infection. as we left him in a critical condition, blood test showed he also suffered from early stages of kidney failure, but the doctor said it was under control. the vatican says the 8 year old is alert, responsive, and attended mass on sunday. authorities in turkey say at least 133 people have died from drinking counterfeit alcohol. since the start of this year, thousands more are still hospitalized. turkey is high taxes on alcohol and fuels,
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illegal production police rates across the country on cover thousands of leaders of boot like alcohol and desolation machines. spanish police have released the video of an operation to free 48 women from a people, trafficking ring. dozens of suspects were arrested and 90 confident and what is the authority st. criminals exploited more than a 1000 women and 9 clubs is rarely. tanks have started moving into the occupied west bank for the 1st time since 2002, shortly after israel's defense minister announced his plans for troops to stay there. for the coming year, he said several times rolled into janine on sunday. incentive has already caused tens of thousands of palestinians to flee. and let's recap the results of sunday's parliamentary election here in germany for you finish masses. conservatives came out on top with 28.5 percent. the far right alternative for
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germany double their share of the vote of 20.8 percent, making them the 2nd largest party, germany's incumbent social democrats suffered a crossing defeat. dropping over 9 percentage points to 16.4 percent of greens fell 3 percentage points to 11.6 percent left party fared much better than expected. with 8.7 percent of the vote, the b s. w was splintered from the last party last year. only took 4.97 percent just short of the 5 percent threshold needed to enter parliament and the business from the f t p, which i've been told a couple of weeks. months ago was part of the governing coalition also fell below the 5 percent threshold and crash out of parliament. there's smaller parties together took over 4 percent of develops and we can now look at how that translates into c. it's for each party and germany's parliament,
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the city you will now be the biggest party and the bonus, talk with $208.00 out of the total number of $630.00 c for social democrats currently. still, the governing party will now have a 120 seats and the green party, 85 seats. the far right alternative for germany. now the 2nd largest party in the parliament will have a 152 seats. delinkum. that's the far left. a will have 64 c and the election outcome of these different coalition options as fear, radical possibilities. one is between the conservatives and the far right a if the very theoretical one, because even though they would have an ample majority in parliament solution mass as ruled out a coalition with v. a. if the another possible coalition wouldn't be with the social democrats. this option would have a slimmer majority in parliament, but is the most likely one since mass has, as i just said, rolled out collaborating with the far right or expecting to go to
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a press conference by the far it. if the shortly was the 1st conservative leader finish mount said he'll get down to work on forming a governing coalition as soon as possible. here's more on demand points to become germany's next chance. this is the mind. if the moment the police match just let the conservative seed you seize you to the 1st election victory. since the macro he is yvette, calls him back to the world. what wait for us? it was wait for long drawn out coalition negotiations. we must be capable of acting again quickly so that we can do the right thing in germany, so that we're present again in europe and so that the world sees germany has a reliable government again. so far, this is vicky at his pledge, but you turn on migration and the economy, his style decisive say his father was uncompromising even abrasive. say his critics . trump, like at times you get in for the month of audits. i'm going to say if i'm elected
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to be the chancellor of germany, yes. and on my 1st day and i'll face so i will instruct the federal ministry of the interior using the chancellor. so authority to issue directives to permanently control a full gem and is national borders with its neighbors. don't have to control you them the death reaction to a deadly stopping by an ask on a silent c k. so we can take a political risk. he crossed his own red line by allowing the fall right a if the for the 1st time and time and post will history to become the deciding factor in securing a majority in parliament. tens of thousands took to the street in protest. jelly was even the mackerel condemned his decision to accept a if the votes rather than see compromise with other policies of the center of mine . of this, from my point of view, even on the difficult conditions, it should not come to the point where majorities are chief with the help of da da
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da da. com. while maps political in the news or remain unpopular. and speaking of b a s b, we need to interrupt that report right there because we can now take, you live to a press conference by the 2 heads of the far i party taking place here in berlin. there's a live pictures you're seeing there right now that is at least by the end, you know cool. paula. the 2 heads of via the federal level and the system into what they have to say after they secured the best showing of their party and party history and made sure the far right became for the 1st time and post for history. the 2nd strongest party in parliament. what do you expect to leave it for? lead and pulling the splitting into. i'm from colleagues, i'd like to be doing the
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conference marathons after the elections. we will begin with the a, f d. we have the 2 heads of the party up to and this underwriter and simone, alam volume, and always not as we have a number of for, and during this present, i just wanted to say that kind of on this conference, this week is not just l by the government is an independent association of journalists and, and is to hold press conferences, but the, so that a colleague and reports on events thought to the floor. that's just the com. thank you very much and a warm welcome to the federal press conference of the a f d a very good morning. i'm pleased that so many of you have come out in your numbers . we have the results now of the elections and the a,
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f. d has been able to achieve a historic success. we have the best results we've ever had in history of our party in a very pleased about this. again, this we've been able to and this is on the side line increase indeed, double results since the last election 3 years ago. and that is an amazing success in view of the fact that our party is a new 12 years old for me a month. no one in europe has ever achieved such results in such a short period of time to establish themselves in short as a big 10 party. and we are the 2nd biggest starts in germany, left and rising. and let me tell you one thing. i'll stay on let's via enough that's even after the last election of on the european elections. that was last
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year since we were able to increase our results by 5 percent stock is within 7 months. so this is a very, very strong results to another stock. we are very strong among young voters, which is a clear indicate to that we are the party of the future. the young people want to have a perspective for their lives. and we, as the alternative for jeremy, can offer them these perspectives. and as i said yesterday and then of the last few weeks, i emphasized we are prepared to take on responsibility because german voters move on to have voted for political change. shock a mia hyatt. we have a strong majority that before the as the and this read the news and the voters
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wants a centrist right wing for the smith's party, for these mountains seems to be sticking to his attitude of locking working together the f 2, which we do not think is democratic, you cannot simply exclude millions of voters. and so it is down to the union brought to see how they do with this. but what we could expect is that if they do have a coordination with the s p d, they will not be able to implement all of the a f d positions that they copied. alice, they are part matches. however, we take a pragmatic you model and even tomorrow we will constituent parliamentary group staff. we have nearly twice as many empties the hub. we have 152 seats,
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which has nearly twice as many as we had in the last term in office. so we're looking forward to that we will be electing a common executive committee tomorrow. we'd like to welcome all of our new colleagues. and i would also like to say, all of our voters, all of our supporters, and particularly all of those who helped us tirelessly during the election campaign, members of our party. we're very proud of our election campaign it wednesday to stream as well. and as a result, we have achieved. so a historical result, we're very happy. i'm very happy to hear about the results. we have established a very good platform here, a strategic platform which has the best possible prerequisites to overtake the cd you in the next election. but i expect us to become the strongest party in the next selections and to have the mandate to form
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a government to mr. capella morning. and they're a good morning for me as well. but to me when data and i would like to fax over 10000000 voters who cast the vote for us doubling the number of voters from the last election. of course i would like to thank our members and campaign help us for the joining ranks. a very disciplined election campaign for it seems like was of the, to the woodside. i also like to congratulate the c d u on winning the elections. i think that so in a good form like maybe provide, let's refer to a number of points. i'll just add one or 2 things we just talked about regarding some of the small, some of the issues that played a role in this selection campaign. migration was at the top of the elizabeth piece as well, particularly the eastern germany and was to spend the economic situation. eastern germany of 18 for constituencies were able to win 44 constituencies directly
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and the voters size percent showing more with 40 percent. what they think of this firewall approach, and i think that this is a consequence of the see. do you have to think about, i'd like to remind you of 2017. when the f d and faxed, we had 0 point one percent ahead of as you do you. and at that point, mr. today's the sacks and these dates, premier implemented stuff, the withdrew step down, and i hope they'll be similar all red zone. so you will see that you have formed governments that go against what the people a lot bye all in all these other times i couldn't, i would like to say right. and chancellor can do that at least vital was sensational in the election campaign. a very proud of her, i'm proud of being the leader of the co leader. the part changed the phone and i was proud to be able to support her to get this result. what's really sensational, and naturally we will now humbly get down to work. and of course we want to talk.
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and so officially, i still do justice to our mandate as the strongest opposition parties, because this is important so that in the next election. and if we continue to be excluded by the others, and this is perhaps a warning we simply didn't provide. i don't know if we are not allowed to head committees. not allowed to be the vice president. we have nearly a 100 and 52nd over 150 seats. i think you can type easily. all the, all the voters have shown what democracy is. the a s d has a major contribution if you need to democracy. if you think about how many non voters we manage to mobilize your neighborly 2000000 because they're telling me i'm in the people who have gone to vote with just for us. we have an amazing go to turn out over 80 percent, 84 percent versus low to turn out. also thank safety. so i want to saying the voters and came out to supporters and thank you for your attention. we can be moved . the question statements, dental bye for the american beyond. thank you for the statement. we have
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a list of time now you have on sunday and i doubt of managed to take all the questions, but those are back in each of the i do my best and there are some press representatives who are here as guest. so just like to say that they do not have the right the last question funds you guys have coming out to miss lynn this question 1st. good morning miss. i like to know what your take is on our form of the debt break. as the following. uh, it says, my name is lynette. thank you for your question. uh essentially i would say that the states should not have to spend more then it has, it really shouldn't make any debt so tall. that would be, by definition, it's real, or at least that's my personal opinion about that same customers. and since the
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state has been going further and further into debt over the decades, it shows that it cannot manage tax payers money. well, this is why we have said that in view of record tax revenue this last year, we have to spend less and we have to come through with a kind of a circle, a strong hand to ensure that there is this spending to be sure that there's more money for tax pass, the state must have focused on domestic and external security and the guarantee of ensuring a decent public infrastructure is available to the citizen, a decent education system. now, you know, all of this, all of this has been collected the pre, just as a government has ensured that we are dealing with a status of the industrialization for the last 8 years because of the highest
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energy prices. the tax payers will be released. we have open orders, we have completely lost control. there is for the cases that sort of give them couldn't. lawlessness is i'm the prevalence. mister mats will not be able to search his plans with a coalition. a grand coalition with the s p d will mean that he will not be able to deliver on any of his election promises. and since he does not wish to be prepared to canada, keegan, ty, from the a cert, that's break last, that is the opposite. what this country needs. so that's the disease. what about these are all forces? what would you say about that? believe me any from the, from the well as, and we talk about a special military,
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somebody, it's actually not a special fund. it, especially since i've told you my position on debts all the states should spend its money, like a company would i'm going to name. and as soon as a company is in that, you know what happens to stop in the same should be true for states. i believe, and this state has to be managed seriously and properly and needs to spend taxpayers money extensively. stand back had a there that was at least vital code. and of, of the alternative for jeremy with the tier very please. they're saying she's prepared to take on responsibility and that her party would make sure that the cd you would not be able to implement the a as the positions she says they copied. and for more,
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we can cross over to our corresponding band to the guy who has been following all of this from our 30 here in berlin van. what are your take aways from? what we just heard, as well as you could expect, the party leadership of the a f t the far right took some victory, left c a in the building, just a couple of meters of ave, of, and i'm sitting the interest in this press conference. i was very big them and lots of colored teams and that, that is vital, enjoyed this of cause. and if you look up the numbers, it's clear that she had this right when she said they have a win historically. and actually they double the, the fee goes in, mrs. vida was very proud of that and also offered again a coalition to visit the conservative with the cd you see is who which and the conservative of cause reject. but she said the people's, when is a majority, then of conservative and fluoride, and she predicted that did 2029. so the next election,
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the body will be even be bigger than the conservatives and then take over. so she is that he actually made some very far reaching promises here and vetted comes to to concrete policies. the, the is asking for more leverage and more positive participation in the parliament for example. they want of cause and i'll be part of the presidency of the parliament as so far they didn't get a vice president and also know committee heads. and that might change because they are now $152.00 deputies and the going to start got to incorporate the $630.00 seats. yeah. how do you expect them to wield that new found power as well as this she of size of this group is of course important. is it really possible to keep the a potty out of the making? i'm looking up to bring this talk if in the body is the 2nd biggest block are
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already in the parliament last time the d came in of the 4th. no, they are the 2nd one off, the conservative. and it's hard to imagine that this can be ignored, that we are not sure how the, the other parties will react. and the conservative so far, it alters the social democrats and the green said that it would be no cooperation with the a f d. but we have to see if that's how it's during the next 4 years. and the might also be needed to, if it comes to changes in the constitution in germany, if that's necessary, for example, to reform, the debt break and other things. so the leverage does, of course, big on now, and they can say 10000000 people in germany voted for the 50. yeah. and they, they always insist in the fact that that core don sent and tear. and that's firewall, as it's called here in germany, is anti democratic. is there a sense among voters that that is the case, a good many voters in germany. it said that it does not make
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any sense any more because they want to, for example, the change in migration policies, tougher stance and stuff of measures in migration and the menu both to say if the coalition between the conservatives and if the is feasible, then let's do it if you look at the numbers from the poll institutions from the that done before the election, they are a couple of minutes left, a couple of none of the majority, but many vote doesn't say this viable is not working anymore. and a corporation might be useful in some cases. and especially if you look at the eastern part of germany, the, the, if the has in the, in a relatively a majority in all these things. so the people are actually supporting the stands of the, of the and it might be that the firewall at least with the correct and over the next
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4 years, what makes 50 so so attractive to voters, especially in terms former east. but the, if the is the yeah, well playing well the in, in the east because it's the supporting and many issues that of concern for both of them. the social issues of the war of russia against the ukraine. many vote as the say it's, and it's enough, we have to find a piece the and also the social, the mines in the east. and this feeling that they use to somehow neglected also and security concerns. but important for the about as of to the incidence is asylum seekers and other foreigners, the suspects for atrocities and life attacks and, and also tara tx and under christmas market. and mock the book, for example, and city in eastern germany. this all plays into the hands of the a if d and,
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and to also have to say that the, every, if the somehow a resonates with this feeling very well and the, the, everything else it took to direct mandates in the east. and so that's a sign that they have a road doing there. and they also managed to motivate many people to vote for them . for the 1st time the, the child was very high, 84 percent. and many of these votes as the, the not going to the opposed last time. i'm now going to the post to vote for the f d. so immobilization is also very strong. yeah, the fee is going to be the biggest opposition power in parliament. that much is for sure. we just heard the co chair of the if the praise the work at least vital did on the campaign trail. what role do you expect her to play now? going forward swears at least by the hardened tab positions over the last
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years and weeks is she is moving more to the to the right even. and she has a very harsh rhetoric and you can expect her as the opposition leader that she will fiercely criticize, of course, the, the next charge that might be for this now to the data for conservatives. so she been in play in a very tough road on that and tried to gain more support by disappointed voters in the east and in the west also. so you can expect the very 1st, the debates into brenda's talk. she was not to make any easy. uh, it was not an easy way to for the grand condition to govern the condition of the flight form of out of the day of the social democrats and the conservatives. those are political corresponding fans. they got thank you so much. i and bands, colleague our correspond, enjoy. so dahlia is still with us as well as young push out. he's a political analyst and director at the razor group so great that you're still with
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me because there's a lot to unpack here. let's look at that press conference. was there anything we heard there that we hadn't heard before? julia? i wouldn't say so. um obviously, you know now the, if the has a chance to really rejoice and you know, they have achieved the result of that. they were hoping for possibly they might have been hoping for a couple of percentage points more, but it's still a historic result and you know, they are doing their victory laugh now. and i must say we heard from alice vines of she said that she sees this as a, as the i see as the only part in europe that has achieved such success in such a short amount of time. i would like to fact check a little i can think of the brothers of italy in italy, georgia maloney's party. they after only 10 years from their founding came in with 25 percent that are leading the government in italy now. so i don't know if this comparison is fair from alice vidal, but definitely
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a big success for the f. b. and they are now obviously criticizing the conservatives for not going into a coalition with them. they say this anti democratic that this is not the will of the voters. that's also debatable because in a parliamentary democracy it's not necessarily, you know, it's not a 1st pass the post system or it's not a system that necessarily means that the 1st 2 parties have to govern together. but obviously this are, these are things that we've heard before. from the f b and it's obviously a message that is successful for them also with their voters who are frustrated with that the party isn't coming into the government at the far right. doing a victory left in germany of all places. what signal does that send to germany's allies abroad? and now the germans of course, want to hear the answer, the, to the question that everybody is like gravely concerned in europe. you know, but b, as we've said to a earlier this in this, in this, in this broadcast,
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it's basically a normalization, most of the other european countries have undergoing, similar processes. and, and, and so, you know, might, my expectation is that, um, you know, there will be a little bit of historically based noise, but most people will take this and, you know, with a lot of pragmatism. what i find so astonishing is that, you know, we've basically also here have exclusively discussed the if the but the, if the is only part of the story of what happened tonight. you know, they will not be in power, the burden on sorting the economic mess and the geo political mess out will be on other people, if you will essentially be a bystander. so um, you know, the story of tonight is that we have a, a government that has a freshman day, but a week monday that goes into a situation where they actually need a strong blended. and i think that is something that we should discuss a little more with basically a little bit actually falling into that same trip that we've been following in for the last 10 years. which is to give these people coverage when basically, you know, they're not saying anything new. they're telling us the same story again and again
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about legitimacy, about how they're the real voice of the people. but have essentially nothing to offer. so i think, you know, we need to really start talking about the issues that matter and talk about the stuff that, that, you know, will happen very, very soon in this country that will be quite uncomfortable. but of course, what is the biggest challenge at hand? because there are plenty to fold. first of all, the economic crisis, which has really only just started, we haven't had growth in this country for 5 years. and we've had a recession for the last 2. and this will likely be another recession. yeah, that's one of our plans that's gonna eat our budgets away at a time where we need massively more funds. and the 2nd is, we just have a revolution in the european security setup. you know, our alliances are falling by the way side. you know, the security architecture is challenged, not just by the russians, but nobody us president who adopts the russian position. and by the chinese, we're just waiting on the sidelines to cross the markets over here. because they have their own intentions, you know, so we have a perfect storm situation where you have a beginning with domestic weakness and geo political pressure from the outside. and
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that needs to be channeled somehow. let's look at the domestic challenges 1st, especially the economy where the positions of estimating the likely coalition partner going forward with the christian democrats. and could not be more diametrically opposed in some senses to the position of the c, d, u haul's. they want to hold on to the debt break. it sounds like a very boring topic, but it is fascinating. wants to dive into it. they see it as a promise to the future generation. and the s p d on the other hand, sees it as a burden on the future generation, a break to innovation, to moving forward to development of the country. is there a universe in which you've seen them landing on one page on this? we have seen some movement on this front coming from the conservatives. we've had, we have heard from the big mats, say that he might be willing to compromise on the debt break and to allow
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some exceptions or to reform a german use, so called that break. so basically limited and how much that of the states can incur to, to finance investments and other spending. and he has said that there might be a possibility to, to, to reform that. and, you know, it also might be in the city use interest to move on this because a germany is going to need investments to that, to try to restart its economy. it's going to basically need to transform its economy in a way that is more innovative or competitive, more going in and the more green direction because that is the future and we're seeing that all over the world. and so for germany to say at the top of its game and at the top of some of the biggest economies in the world is going to have to invest a big time and, and, and, and reforming their economy. and at the same time we hear from the seed you that they also don't want to put the burden on the tax payers. they do not want to
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increase taxes, they would like to reduce them. so where is this financing going to have to come from? so it might actually, you know, be an installation that's his interest to go ahead and reform this, that break. also when we look at what the germans think, it's more or less half and half divided with a, a bit of a stronger supports for reform in terms of what they should do with a debt break. so it's not like the entire country is against this, and this would allow a lot more room to maneuver in terms of a reforming the, the country's economy. but also looking at the, the security situation and increasing defense spending. looking at the 0 political situation, which is going to be critical in the coming years. yeah. do you see for each man it's getting a driven economy? you're a biggest economy back on track in 4 years. i think what we have here is um, you know, a mads who is quite ambitious on classic conservative economics, you know, supply side economics, reducing regulation, funding, the welfare state, lowering texas the classic supply side program. and then you have
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a coalition partner, the social democrats, one of the exact opposite mod that deficit spending state sponsored investment programs. and i think the, the risk that we're running now is that they're going to neutralize each other and that we will get, you know, a very mediocre up, you know, reform agenda when what in reality they should be doing as both, both we know a lot of both, you know, we need massive structural reform, conservative style, and we need massive investments as we just heard. you know, what's the social democratic style? if we can find that agenda that does both in the bushes level will be in trouble. can we find that agenda with the options on the table right now? only if the, the 2 parties that will go into this coalition realize the historic moment historic for 2 reasons. if they don't get this stuff done over the next 4 years, the if the will be the strongest party for years down the road, that's the, the for us to store a government. and the 2nd story government is that external pressure. that real game changer with this country is about to lose its peace and it needs to do a lot more to guarantee that piece itself, you know,
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and in conjunction with the other european power as if, if the 2 parties that are going into this coalition can not, you know, sees that historic moment. forget some of the party political trouble p. um, you know, and break out of this and come up with an agenda that extends, that's bigger than the sum of its parts. then i think we will have a huge problem with our hands that's. that's the size of the question. yeah. the ac has its site sets on the 2029 election. so i'm assuming parties are a scrambling to avoid that from becoming a fact from avoiding argument. they want to avoid, of course, the of the, becoming the strongest power. do they have a plan on how to do that? and i think they have been so focused on, you know, their election campaigns and trying to get the best results possible that, but is not necessarily in their sites. and you know, as we've also already discussed, some of the strategies that might have been use, for example, by cindy smith to sort of try and,
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and contrast the ac and went back votes from them. was to sort of go along with the a if these agenda and their topics and their issues. and, you know, it doesn't seem to have necessarily worked out that well. so the parties are going to have to really think, well and hard, what they're going to do over the next 4 years. and, you know, some people actually say, well, maybe it actually wouldn't be a good idea to let the, the govern. and, you know, show what they can do in government and possibly, you know, they don't have government experience. so maybe it won't go that well. and that, that might actually, you know, bring the support for the, the down. but there you run the risk of, you know, basically legitimizing the far right party like the a, if the also within the german scenario we've seen that happening across europe. it hasn't happened here now. so both strategies come with their risk a and it's it's, it's a tough decision for the, for the other parties to, to decide how to handle this. but definitely,
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if the future government manages to address the big problems that germany is facing, that would certainly help them to, to you know, bring forward an example as to why people should not vote for the f d. i see you moving in your chair. it looks like you have an opinion. no, i agree with with a lot of what was said. there's one thing that i disagree with and that is to basic least tell folks again and again that the migration agenda is not. if the topic it is not the, the, the, if the is just running with it because nobody else. well, this is a genuine concern that people have when you look at the polls, people say it's the number one issue that they're concerned about next to the economy. this is something that you know, the center left and the center, right. have for a long, long time, been unwilling to address. that's what has given a, if the so much fuel in the tank. if we continue to say, talking about migration is mimicking the if the speaking points, we're not gonna solve the problem, we will make the, everybody good. if we talk about it the way the 15 does, which in part we've seen the cd, you do, and
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a lot of the rhetoric has moved towards the right also from the center and the center left. is that the right way to go about it, or does there need to be an individual strategy from the center to tackle this problem? not only people coming, but also tackling the root causes, helping, you know, the cities, the towns that take these people in because they're structural problems here in germany that are not necessarily related to the fact that people are coming into the people who are coming. but to the infrastructure in place, the way you talk about it is absolutely crucial. and what's really important in this debate is that you don't talk about migration in a way that's degrading the people that are affected by this. but that doesn't mean you can talk strict language about the measures that need to be taken because the numbers have to vote on this issue is eating our democracy from within and it has been doing so for the last 10 years since 2015. and we keep on pushing this to the side and the saying, whoever talks about an inspect our times, you know,
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is only making the if the stronger, the exact opposite is true. if you don't talk about it in, in more strict terms in the center of the political spectrum, that's what's going to give the free right to the if the, so it's an experiment. math has tried to embark on this. you know, he talks a lot stricter about, about this for a lot of people on the left that's already, you know, thing that you don't do. what is an essential is that, and that's doesn't start, start talking about this and degrading way is because that's the a, if the tone, if he can pull this off, if he can talk about the strict are without getting into the nasty bit. that's smelling funny. i think he might have recipe. we'll see whether that works out. the proof will again be in the, in the putting on the end, the end, the agenda that this government can come up with if they can bring the numbers down significantly more than the last of them. and then they might have a way to success. but it's a small gamble, it's a big gamble and there's a small margin of that. right? yeah, mass has kind of doubled in a rhetoric that i wouldn't qualify as degrading towards my grand saying that they come here to get dentist appointments. and that is why germans can't have doctors
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appointments anymore, but i'm not sorted into that. now. i want to know from you julia, because you're of course, an avid observer of what is being said in settings like the one we just saw there with the ac at. why are the parties in germany? no. a be aside so, so reluctant to tackle the, the issue of migration had 1st if it's um it's a conundrum in a way it's uh it would entail also sort of walking back on a lot of the policy that germany has seen since 2015, 2016 when a lot of people fleeing a conflict in syria came to to germany, and when of it, the chancellor at the time on the american said, we can do this, we can take people in, we can, we can, we can support them here in our, in our country and integrate them and so, or the perception in,
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in parts of the country is that that strategy has failed. we see that, as you said, local authorities who handle a lot of the, the management of accommodation and giving people assistance and providing integration courses and language courses. they're struggling. they don't have the means to care for these people appropriately. and you know, often we see in communities that there is this feeling that a poor germans feel that the people who are here seeking asylum or migrants have more states support than they get. and this is obviously something that then influences how they vote and how they, how they perceive the positions of the, of the various parties in parliament. and, you know, we have seen the government of all of shows toughening measures on migration. if one were to look at it a few years back in a quite tough way that a few years ago might have been unthinkable. also looking at, for example,
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the green party has been a lot of conflict within the green party a. so you know how, how rights and how, how tough these measures on migration have have been moving. and i, and there's also the point to be made that some of the even tougher measures that felice mass is proposing reach the, you know, the limits of what is allowed in terms of european law in terms of asylum, a regulation that, you know, these are international conventions that determine, you know, the value. so we also, it, we're going to also have to see now once the cd you as in government, whether these plans were sort of just campaigning on the part of mass to show that you know, he wants to be tougher on migration or whether you can actually carry through with, with these proposals which, you know, many legal scholars and observers have said, we don't know whether this is legally possible or migration. one of the biggest topics for the of the, for sure it, let's take a look now at some p trends behind the far right. a,
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of the strong showing on sunday. uh they were for the 1st time, the big winters of the night managing to double their results since the previous election as well as solidifying their voter base, the se managed to mobilize support from 1800000 people with didn't vote. and the last election over a 1000000 german, so previously voted for the c d, u. c. as to the conservatives cast their ballots for the f d and the selection they, if they also absorbed 890000 votes from the business from the f t p. party and 720000. from the ruling social democrats. and the next graphic gives us a sense of where the ac is strongest. we can bring that in. believe we do have a heat map somewhere in there. we see it coming up and that is plainly in germany's eastern regions. the dark or the blue, the greater percentage of voters who opted for the far right and those dark blue
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areas correspond pretty exactly with the state boundaries up the former communist east germany, a j. a. why are we seeing this divide between west and east for historical reasons, since german reunification, former eastern germany and has struggled economically, its whole industry and economic system basically collapse and has to be set up a new a and this has caused, you know, a lot of disruption for people living in these regions, having to switch careers, find the new life path for themselves. and this, this, this insecurity of a sense of disruption. they don't feel has really been addressed and paid attention to from the federal government. this is something that has been ongoing for over 30 years now, and there is still this feeling that they are considered a 2nd class citizens. there's this feeling that the state isn't really taking care
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of trying to push forward economic development in, in, in these areas of germany, we see many towns in, in, in the eastern parts of germany losing big parts of the population. just because there are not that many economic opportunities, and i think this really plays a big part in this feeling of being forgotten by germany's traditional parties. we're not really looking at what's happening in eastern germany and this, this, this push to wants to try out something new. a party that they feel represents the more a party that feels that a, you know, they feel cares more about their issues. we've also seen, you know, a bigger numbers of unemployed or of, you know, working class people boarding for the sd. and you know, it goes and, and, and, and touches the sort of your deep root of sense of, of, and security and sort of feeling left behind. they think that also plays a role in their support in there. yeah. the young, the democratic parties,
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let's call them loud in, in germany. they want to avoid the fee from becoming the strongest party in 2029. do we have any international examples to go by where that has actually worked? so i think we've seen a case in poland a quite recently where a populist right with national this government both voted out of office, but they came into government 1st. they came into government 1st and then basically, you know, a redesigned polar society in a way that lots of polls in the end, we're also not really happy with anymore. but, but that is a case where, you know, of a country that had, you know, has a very, very conservative folders base, you know, decided against popular us government. but after 8 years in a government that's, that's, that's true. and we, we seen a couple of, of countries and in scandinavia, where we've seen popular sturgess and, you know, by really quite nice to right wing parties where the mainstream parties, especially is the social democrats, interesting, the, in those in scandinavia, the,
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and traditionally quite strong adopted many, many items from the, from the agenda that the hot, right, and the nation has brought a to the table, especially a migration, quite successful the, you know, the, the, the, the, when you look at the social democrats in scandinavia, there are unrecognizable for social democrats in germany, germany, especially west germany, is very much the outlier in europe. and, and, and of course that's good. and then we want to preserve this. but at the same time, we also have to see how these trends are playing out. you know, on this, on the east eastern kind of issue that we have with in germany. there is an interesting thing that, you know, 56 years ago the interior ministry, 100 many, you know, they looked at a 110 or so associated economic indicators. and publish an atlas maps based on these data. and that was everything from educational levels to home, home ownership to you know, um you know, everything that you can imagine on every single map of these 110 items. eastern
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part the some parts of germany, the former dvr, was markedly different than the west. that is identity building. and if, if, if you have this profound sense of we are different, you start to build your own party system and that's happening. eastern germany now essentially has its own party system. almost none of the western parties play a role in, in, in the east when you look at, at, at yesterday's numbers. it's, it's, it's quite shocking in many ways. but it is rooted in, in strong socio economic data and, and strong sense of identity and other very interesting demographic factor is age. i believe we do have a map to show you how the different parties fared with younger voters. one quarter of all orders, under the age of $25.00, chose the left party. if the was among as popular among young loaders with 21 percent choosing the far right, the more interest party is the cd. you. cs do the s p
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d and the greens have more trouble reaching young voters with none of them reaching 15 percent? so young voters moving more towards the extremes. where does that trend come from? why do they not find a political home in the center anymore? well, we saw in 2021, actually the young people voted mostly for the greens and the free democrats. a that has changed now completely since the 2 parties have been in government. and, you know, there's been interviews and just speaking to young people, they just felt disappointed in what these parties have delivered. they, you know, a lot of young people felt they haven't really understood what um, you know, these parties stood for, or that they've just, their expectations were, were not respected. and we know that both the, the left and the a s d are very strong in their presence on social media. this is something that the
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a, f, d has been very good at in the past few years. and that the left party is also picked up on and some of their main candidates have been, you know, really strong on take talks and other platforms trying to, to reach this young audience. and that has, it has really worked. and i think also in terms of um, you know, we heard that also in the press conference from the a fee. they feel like they are a party that can offer a new perspective for the future. and for young people who feel like they're being ignored by politics currently, this is something that in their very different ways, both the f, the and the left party seemed to offer a break from what has been happening and government until now. and you know, on the one hand, the more nationalist, a tough on migration, economically conservative approach of the a fee. on the other hand, the left party offering an approach that the more center left parties aren't really
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offering anymore. basically being open to migration and not one thing i need test measures at all. one thing is you know, more investment and the getting away from, from the, from the debt break. but also i think for the left party in particular the is the issue of israel and gaza and the conflict there at the left party is one party that offers an alternative to, to, to the kind of messaging we've heard a coming from, from, from the other parties and government and, you know, this is an issue where i think young people have a sort of a different view and that, that there are more critical of the actions of, of israel and gaza and how that there's the conflict there has unfolded. and i think that's also why we've seen a lot of people and especially younger generation sort of a shift towards the left party. yeah. and we can talk about social media without talking about x,
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about how are these by those talked to even less on his own platform. how he then proceeded to endorse them very openly. 6 so what role do you think for an meddling played in the a f d strong showing me? i think the, the musk and also the vents interventions on behalf of the, the didn't really play much of a role that really didn't convince anybody who wasn't already in the, if the come, i think, you know, also in the numbers you couldn't see those numbers markedly. going up after a mosque and, and venza to munich, security conference and intervene. i think the bigger issue, the much bigger issue is for an interference. you know, basically on the new cycle on the picked up new cycle on the social media. a new cycle where a lots of faking uses floating around, you know, well, lots of russian differences happening on a daily basis for a faith narratives are being spun and respond again and again. and, and these kinds of things kind of trade the minds you know, way beyond the classic media, which most of us to consume for the most part young people don't. and that's where
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the main desk information operations are happening. and i can't give you a number as to how many people were, you know, kind of moved by that. but the into is, is, is quite strong. the, the, the investment is very little. that was kind of stomach. but the impact is, is quite large. these fake narratives are very hot to kind of route out after they've taken root. and so, you know, that's where i would look. i think these, these prominent interventions were not particularly impactful in this case. and then take out of your asia group and are very and julia, so deli, thank you both for the time being. you're watching the w, special coverage of the fall out from germany's parliamentary election will be back with our studio guests at the moment. but 1st, another important story in the headlines at this moment. the vatican says po francis's health has deteriorated and he's now in a critical condition. so francis has asked catholics worldwide to pray for him as
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he bottles pneumonia and a complex lung infection which has left him in a critical condition. blood test showed early stages of kidney failure. the doctor said it was under control about it and says the any 8 year old as alert, responsive and attended mass on sunday. oh, correspond to jack barrack isn't wrong following the story for us. jack, what's the latest we know about the post health? so we had a line from the vatican's press office this morning that said that he is the night passed well on the pope the slabs and is resting yesterday evening. so sunday evening we had a message from them saying he still receiving oxygen through his nose that he is allowed on well orientated. but the situation around his health remains critical, obviously as an 18 year old mind, with what they had previously described does the complex state of pneumonia which had taken through his body through his long as it's been affecting his lunch long
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as especially that all tend to hooks, so lots of people anticipating what is the situation with his health. the doctors are giving regular updates. we are getting relatively regular updates from the back to compress office as everybody's sort of braces to see whether he will recover from this. as i say, 88 years old with it's very critical and complicated health situation. catholics around the worlds are of course, praying for the pope's recovery. what's the situation around the vatican as people wait to find out more? so what is a really big year for the vatican this year? 2025 is what's called a jubilee. yeah. which is a 9 is back in the year 2000 by pub. don't jump to the 2nd is a year in the catholic church, which is where people can sort of release best st. since they can go have permission from that. since people are supposed to let go of that. as an in sort of historic time, slaves were meant to be freed,
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etc. and so the vatican is expecting above of 30000000 people to make pilgrimages. there's a pos which runs up here towards the home, the door of the vatican. and they're expecting 30000000 people to write 202-5222 make that pilgrimage from all over the world. there's a really big here full of the vatican. and the situation with the pope's health plays into that. but it means that there are lots of people here who are not only making that pilgrimage, but it coming to price of the pope's health, as well as jack park in rome. they're following the critical condition. the pope is reportedly and thank you so much for that. update us back to our main story. now the results of sunday's parliamentary election here in germany for the nation mass a cd you. the conservatives came out on top with 28.5 percent. the far right
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alternative for germany doubled their share of the road to 20.8 percent, making them the 2nd largest party. germany's and comments social democrats suffered a crushing defeat. dropping over 9 percentage points to 16.4 percent of greens fell 3 percentage points to 11.6 percent left party fared a lot better than expected. with 8.7 percent of the road, the b s. w. the book and the son of arden connect with splintered from the left party last year only took 4.97 percent out, just short of the 5 percent threshold needed to enter parliament. the business friendly as ftp, former coalition partner of the greens and the social democrats also fell below the 5 percent threshold and crash out of parliament. the other smaller parties together took over 4 percent of the votes. and we can look at how these results translate into fates for each party in germany's parliament, the cd you will be the biggest part in the bonus tag with $208.00 out of the total
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number of 630 seats. the social democrats currently still the governing party will have a 120 seats and the green party, 85, the far right alternative for germany. the 2nd largest party already said that in the parliament will have a 152 seats. the link at the left party will have 64 and that's all we have time for, but you're all up to date. i would say you can stay with us. i'll be back in a few minutes after a short break with julia. so deli, i'm going to show here in the studio with us. thank you so much for your company until now. the
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the way all the solutions mapped out, navigating a changing world now on youtube, the this is the news line from berlin. germany's voters have spoken and they want change conservative liter samantha set to become the countries next chancellor, after a record number of german cast their ballots in the highest turnouts as re unification. meanwhile, the social democrats and current chancellor or life charles, take a hammering there. now the conservatives, the most likely junior partner in a coalition shaw says he will not be involved in negotiations on the far right. alternative for germany, the f b celebrates its 2nd place finish, it has doubled its share of devout since the last selection.
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