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the 5 years off the coast, we remove the window, well it still stops much 8 on dw, the if you're watching dw news coming to live from berlin about for change in germany's national elections. conservative leader, free jewish masses that to become the countries and next chancellor, after a record number of germans, cast their ballots in the highest turnout since were unification. meanwhile, the social democrats and current chancellor all lock shoulds take a hammering, but they are the conservative, most likely junior partner in a possible coalition. and the far right to alternative for germany, the a f d celebrates its finished in 2nd place. it has doubled its share of the votes since
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the last election. the . i'm quite richardson, thank you so much for joining us. germany's voters have opted for a change of government with official results from sundays national election. and now in conservative free judgments as boys to become the countries. next chancellor is c d u. c. su block, is that to lead a future government? most likely would the 3rd place, social democrats who let the former administration the far right a f. d took 2nd place, but merits refuses to work with them. let's take a closer look at the numbers and break them down for you merits as conservative. it came out on top of the 28.5 percent. the far right alternative for germany doubled their share of the vote to 20.8 percent, making them the 2nd largest party germany's incumbent social democrats suffered at
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the polls dropping over 9 percentage points to 16.4 percent. the greens fell 3 percentage points to 11.6 percent. the last party fared better than expected with 8.7 percent of the vote. the b s. w, which splintered from the left party last year only took 4.97 percent just short of the 5 percent threshold needed to enter parliament. and the business from the ftp also fell below the 5 percent threshold, sending it crashing out of parliament. other smaller parties together took over 4 percent of the vote. and let's have a look now at how election night unfold. and starting with the conservatives here took 1st place via the cd to cd. you and c, s. u, the union block of one. there's 2025 election which ones is gone and previous matches. the man in the driving seat is clear winner of this election. he said to become jim and john sla though he still faces the tricky task of building
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a coalition, a center right, cd. you see if you block, received the most, both sparkly emoji, and there were down to 50 percent. it's not the support match. wanted. schultz will stay on this kid. it's a good chance that but these days is jim and his lead to our number is s b, d policy etc. and thoughts west results. and then there are still election since the 19th century on, on for the the can also on the grounds comm raids face is a base every election results of the social democratic party talking to you for different types and stuff on it. i need to log in the alternative for jim and he thought he nearly doubled it, support the strongest, showing for a fall, right pause. he sits the 2nd world war in the post election discussion on public t. v co leader. elise vital, had her eyes on the lead visit power was a honda solves cuz her hand decides stretched to take part in the government and until we will support the c d u. c. s. u, when there are motions that we approvals,
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if we go in the right direction and the will of the german people is clearly as though they want change when they wants to coalition between the f b and the conservative assessment blo spots. and already i think united predicted the conservative block would not be able to form a stable government. and the, if they would in time become germany's largest politics. the man said his party had little in common with the f d block. and this the, the deck, lindsey on you can reach out to us as much as you like. we will not see you, mr. guy did call us inquiry on this move from the green source. small dropping support punished as old a government, which is what as of because among small apologies the last benefit from a surgeon support from young voters who heard of it was a campaign dominated by fits fios about migration and russia, a filtering economy. and the fear that donald trump is changing jim and his relationship with the united states previous man says he has a plan for all of those issues. but 1st he needs to find out who will join him in
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government. so we can take a look at how these results translate into seats for each party in germany's parliament will. the cd you will now be the biggest party and the stock with a $208.00 out of the total number of $630.00 seats. the social democrats currently still the governing party will now have $120.00 seats and the green party, $85.00. the far right alternative for germany is now the 2nd largest party in the parliament, with 152 seats. the link on the left party will take 64 seats. now the election outcome leaves different coalition options as see or radical possibilities. one is between the conservatives and the far right. a f. d, which would have an ample majority in parliament or fish. merits has rules out a coalition with the sd and other possible coalition would be with the s p d. this auction would have a slim or majority in parliament,
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but is the most likely one since merits rooms out collaborating with the far right . or on the far right alternative for germany, for its part. well, there was a big winters last night managing to double their results since the previous selection as well as solidifying their voter base. the f t also managed to mobilize support from 1800000 people who didn't vote in the last election over a 1000000 germans who previously voted for the cd. you c s, you cast their ballot for the a f d in the selection. the f t also absorbed 890000 votes from the business from the ftp party and 720000 from the ruling social democrats. let's take a look at another graphic to give us a sense of where the f t is the strongest. that is a plainly in germany's eastern regions, but actually we're gonna hold off on showing you that graphic because i do understand we have a press conference from the s p d. let's listen in as their leader speakers kind of last thing by the 2nd,
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the act as a bonus, kind of that showed no sort of loss of has to be happening. but until us get as going on and we've got about half an hour, 25 minutes meeting because the chancellor has some commitments. mister sharp suck. a very good afternoon when i get this, it was a bit for defeat for the esper due yesterday and it doesn't feel any better today and never got it. this of, that's all school from being done to that and doing, but we want to say thank you all of hosting to support it as despite all of the challenges facing a country. but i particularly want to thank so many social democrats, these folks have taken gig, despite or not getting some serious or some refresher as a campaign for them in a very motivated manner. and i think that's what made it the result that we did get possible and also i don't want to just thank everybody who was so active. those who distributed brushes, those who rang the door bells organize events. but i also want to fax a thing,
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but i tell you leadership which last thing, but not sasha a skin as was much snake as well. you know as everyone else. kevin cannot make his mesh and many, many others who have worked so hard in the federal state. so as ministers did, i know that goose we will try to tackle some of the biggest challenges that we've experienced in this country. since 1945, we tried to do decent work, and i want to say thank you for the cooperation i missed all a day or 2 that i always felt in this time that made it possible to act the way we did in these difficult times. it was real on their send that send a big responsibilities by a given to, to win for the elections. and as i have take would have taken responsibility for the success. i'm also responsible for this results. so i want to emphasize that one more time. i'd also like to emphasize that it's
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a real honor to be the 9th, to cancel the federal republic of germany, the 4th social democratic transferring the history of the federal republic of germany. and it's very important to me to carry out this work until the last day. but i'm very grateful that it is really unusual time in the face of a terrible war. just 2 hours like from germany, that i was able to ensure that our policies in this country engage with these exercises and did not a band and ukraine and balanced out the economic impact, which is why i look back gratefully. nice to talk to the work that we have achieved with one another. one for the comment that i would like to make that's very important to me is that this year i will have been a member of the social democratic party for 50 years. unless i close, and that is
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a unique experience for me, it's a commitment as well. and this is why i would like to say that the social democratic party is urgently needed in this country and fighting for democracy and justice as it's always been. but also as a voice for those who needs justice, does stuff move and for social cohesion to find. but this is possible combined with a political attitude which is aimed at modernizing society is not anything you can take for granted. it's unique system, workplace, which is why it is a commitment to me to work, to ensure that the social democratic party in the future can successfully tackle this challenge. thank you. okay, shows that you can substitute equations using but i would also like to welcome you here. 6 minutes to meet you in the party headquarters was press conference and i would like to concur with the gratitude that mister shows has just said. but i would also like to thank the most committed election here that we've had
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or left shirts you have for it. so hard for this election campaign to thank you and for 50 years of membership and the s p d is something that we're grateful for as well. you've achieved a great deal for this part. you've taken a lot of responsibility and you've achieved many good things to this country and i'd like to say for myself, this worked with continue. this is because this election result is truly better for the c d. this is richard for the country as well. i'd like to say that quite clearly on the one on because social democracy has had such a bad election results with i see to another. it's also better to see how many voters supported a far, right. well, it's hard to date if it be nice to people not, and yet they are offering their voters nothing but division and exclusion of felicia storm. and in terms of economic policy, the experts have predicted that they would create the demise of our country if they
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were in power. now for me as a part to yesterday evening of this morning, we have been intensely analyzing this election result and will continue to critically engage with it to figure out what happened. why are issues that i talk strong when it comes to social justice, the concerns that people have in the everyday lives. but we couldn't reach them the way we would like to was and out in the end of the fog or so in the future. we'll have to ask the question of how can we reach votes and how can we reach people with our responses, with new responses? how can we tackle the deep sense of uncertain, see that many voters have in the face of the many changes that they are coping with changes? we cannot stop, but we can at least shape change so that it develops well for the many culturally for the naturally this is true in terms of geo political uncertainties. the turning
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points in the history of site and vendor took away many of the certainties that we had. and now we think developments in the u. s. that means that we're in a vice grip, in terms of the democratic structures and the international order are being questioned. it's extremely wary, and it's very worrying for the people in this country. for this reason, we need to send out an important signal of stability for our democracy. i'm sort of confusion in this country and the far right, a sd and other right when radical part is across europe and beyond our real threat and makes people can in this regard. and then the next weeks of this will be something we have to tackle. but the cd will have to restructure and ensure that we can be there for our country to tackle these problems. they will be important conversations and maybe some important decisions and we are committed to taking on this responsibility in the future. i would like to welcome you in
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a party headquarters and say that it was a bit to defeat a dramatic defeat, that the s b day experienced yesterday. and it's going to become more specific when they get colleagues, what i mean, phoning as a colleagues, you didn't make it into parliament. if you look at the map of germany and the representatives from the chapters in the federal states, how we're seeing the mass of germany, it's being swept by the sd. then it's a challenge for the s p d that we're going to have to take on. these are going to be tough years ahead. it'll be a tough struggle towards system. and this is the mandate that we are taking away from the election results. analyzing the results, drawing the conclusions, but fighting them. and this is what we will do for our voters and for this country . i would also like to say it again. i did it yesterday,
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but i want to thank or left schultz for all of the hard work that he did as a chancellor. and he will remain acting chancellor until the new government is formed. but it would also like to say that very soon we will look back at or last shows as chancellor shape. he initiated the turning point in history, the site and then the and he began with the modernization that so necessary in this country. he set the course and much of what he did will not really become clear until a few months or years later, but it's all going to be seen to be closely linked on to his thomas chancellor. now the job ahead is a party is complex and it's a balancing act, but i believe that task u. s. going to myself can take this on. i want to and the joint forces that was had within the party will continue on. so there's the modernization and strengthening the speed d as
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a center left opposite political party. we will have to renew the parties and a height, and we'll have to do it very clearly because we need to be a strong party and want to be a strong pudgy and i met so many people during the election campaign who didn't load as this time. but it tells me that they need the cd to be the they trust us and they want a strong social democracy for this country and we need to regain the trust and set the course to do that. another thing we must do is ensure that we can take decisions and have the capacity to act. it's a turbulent world we're in, we must be able to act. we're seeing what the new us administration is doing or not doing. and we know what kind of decisions will be made or can be made with reference to ukraine in germany. and we have to make your strong in this time as
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well. and for that the needs to be strong as p d. and we made some decisions already yesterday in the executive committee of the party. you will be aware of that and want to thank was much snake for the work that you did as apply them into a group leader type pushed. this has become clear again and executive committee just how important his role has been as the head, his parliamentary groups in the past, due to guarantee that we were able to act, he is only spend on so suggesting that i be his successor and i'm grateful that the executive committee has approved this. i want to take this position on. it's upon him into a group approves that on wednesday. and we will continue along the same path with very much interested in ensuring that the s p d be strong. this is the mandate we're taking away from the book of yesterday. first question is sufficient from d p. a. scott fee and dunk and king bye. thank you very much, mister sectioning 5,
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you of applying for the position of parliamentary a good leader. if you are appointed, you will remain parliamentary group leader. will you remain co leader or will you change into the cabinet? mr. ask and mr. king riley has already talked about his political future. what about you? do you want us to remain co party leader, perhaps above and beyond the end of this year? will you have a time for us to to apply for the position again in december or what's your future? what's beginning? well, if i could begin briefly, i thought just about just missed the for sure. i think i've made it clear that on wednesday i will be running for that position. i'm very grateful. i think it's a real honor that missed a lot of months and it has suggest that'd be successor and i am aspiring to do this . it would be an important phase for the part of mentoring group. whether we are
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involved in fun being involved in a coalition or in the government, it's not a decision that's up to me. these will be decisions that will be made by others in the weeks and months to come. but the ball is in swedish mounts as court to approach the sd to enter into exploratory talks, to negotiate. and then the members of the s p d will make a decision, should it come to that, but all of this is in the future. you should such negotiations occur or exploratory talks about it's not about thinking what it's going to mean for ourselves. it's what is important for this country that matters and what is important for social democracy. but the country is always at the focus of no individual people about officially except for government infringement. how have you all the most efficient? and the last 5 and a half years. i have been so impressed by the way our party has come together. i worked to ensure that we could to do that,
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and i will continue to do that in the future just now that the, the varian group you'll have done to, um, see how mention of the end, you know, you've already mentioned that you haven't met because in any people who didn't quote s p d this time the a, c, d followed last 1700000 votes to the seed. you and i, 700000 c a n d. you're in core support as the workers vote to the f d. so what risk analysis are you taking out of this? what evaluations will you undertake for the future to get these voters back that are these voters that spoke, you can get back from those control types of some and well, as i already said, it's clear that yes, we do need to find as he may just need one more substantiated responses than we found in the past 2 to be deep uncertainty, shaking the voters and particularly those in those always mind them all but slots.
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these think about an employment who are wondering what kind of job security they have. and there's one 3rd of, of voters lots to be used up as most, who are wondering whether or not they have a future here having emigrated here that's important in their lives. and we need to ensure that we keep them on the so you can, can offer open political solutions for everyone. so we need to come up with a new party program and we have to ensure that the democrats, the cards of our society is reflected in the field and that we find this center. and obviously it's up to the seed you to find a new coalition. but we need to enter into compromises that offer solutions for this country that address these deep uncertainties. stitch me on this for tonight. so soon as i get home, i would also like to say, now who has been listening to the leaders of the central ex social democrats at
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best be the headquarters? we also have our chief political correspondent, janina has a reporting. nina, have the words and devastating it comes to mind when you look at the statements that were just made by those leaders there. tell us what this means for the cd going forward. i was here at the city headquarters last night as well, and there was general acknowledgement that this was a tragic day, a dramatic day for germany's oldest democratic policy. i mean, they haven't seen the result like this since the 19th century. so unimaginable and of course, immediately people started asking themselves what's going to happen to this big policy that used to carry this label of being the workers party. they lost the workers to the far right safety. that's become very clear now. so the co lead has announced of fundamental change when it comes to personnel, but also program and as a co lead to las kling bells who's speaking behind me here on, on the stage said again today is that to they really do need to hear this message
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that they need to focus more on the issues that really concern of voters. they have the feeling that they didn't focus enough on how to get the economy going. that they focus too much on social welfare, not see enough on what to do for the workers. and they also said that they need different people in charge. now, who can really modernize this party at a time when liberal democracies under threat last king by mentioned explicitly, the new us administration and all the challenges stemming from those messages that . and he said as that, of course, the s p d is willing to enter into negotiation talks together with publish meds who won the elections with his conservative. so that prepared to assume responsibility again. and they're saying to the world, isn't that waiting for a strong germany rooted in europe and not the expertise willing to assume that role and explicitly he mentioned the name bar is the story,
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is the very popular jim defense minister who could play a leading role potentially even become a, the vice chancellor in the new government and tell our viewers how historians compares it to all off shelters in the current setting, chancellor, in terms of name, recognition and terms of popularity. it was interesting when all the potties of the coalition broke a pause at the end of last year. they all a chose the top candidates. essentially, the social democrats had the choice between the most popular politician in germany across the board board as the stories and the least popular politician left shorts . the contents and left shows wanted to go into this race and the party waited for a long time because that was the voices of the vote to base. that said, no, we do need a popular candidate to get us into a, a election victory of potentially about and the policy waited and
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to hear what was going to happen. and then, and many people are saying that the co leader last king by way too too long. and rumors had started the bonus disorders was going to run. and then in the end, but as disorders himself had to step in and say, i never wanted to do that. i never wanted to states this to against the german chancellor as to how managed of course, what is the story is damaged, laugh shows and it also damage the co leader of the s b d. i do believe that many people and i was thinking that it was the wrong decision not to go into this election campaign with so far as the story is as the lead candidates, you know, will lead you now to get back to that press conference and the questions they're taking their chief political correspondent, nina. how's that there? so that was the s p d. we are still waiting for the press conference from fish match our to political editor. mikaela prefers. however, already at cd you headquarters in berlin. she can perhaps give us a bit of
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a preview of what we might hear here. mikaela predict mats will most likely be germany's next or chancellor. and that's something that he hasn't dreamed of for a long time, right? the absolute d a n t has announced that on day one, but he meant they one of being shots the he would make sure that would be for the closest, at least to those who trying to enter the country without an appropriate title for stay. and he also wants to turn around on the german economy and he wants to secure more defense spending. and here at this press conference and he will have to explain how he wants to ensure that he can fulfill those promises when he very likely will enter. and colorless until so with the social democrats that we just heard from who are responsible for these current policies that he wants to turn around. so he's promising strong leadership from germany,
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also taking his stones towards donald trump. but before he can do anything like that, it will be weeks, potentially months of compromising. and that's something he has a much tough a time with. i've heard then all the leading politicians, he has more of a ceo take on politics. and that will now be put to the test for so. so given those dynamics, when you look at all the issues facing germany, the economy migration, the war against ukraine, which ones you think would be the 1st that match turns to indigo. sions to try to handle for germany of the. well, let's put it this way. the 1st is see all sides we'll have to talk about is how to unite europe and speak with one united voice. because that outcome is something of a political consensus. see amongst the policies of the center, but then it gets into the nitty gritty and that it will be, uh, the issue will be social spending. what that can be brought down and most of all
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how to reform the so called that break, that black 0 and that's in the german constitution is now no longer at the possibility of a 2 said majority, not easily with the policies of the center anymore. and that is something that will have to be debated, it will have to be overcome in order to do anything like put up the finances that now many sides agree on needed at to clearly make europe and germany less dependent on the united states in security on defense terms, that's what felicia, matt said in his 1st talk. so on the election evening that germany, europe could no longer rely on the united states. and that he, himself was in disbelief that you would ever say that the us administration doesn't really care about the federal bureau and where does that leave things for the cd? you, in terms of it security policy going ahead of me just just elaborate a little bit more if you could about where that's going to leave features matched
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as the possibly goes into government with asp day of the. well, it will be all eyes on gemini within europe, and there by all eyes on swedish mats, on how fast he is in forging a compromise. so germany has a stable government. i've spoken to several leading politicians here at the potty h q, and none of them would it commit to whether there will be a new drum and government before or off the easter. but that simply is the task and the awareness is for sure that how he can cut through that gold. you not, that will remain his secret or whether he even kind of butts with a new leadership amongst the social democrats who are now the natural policy to turn to a to get to go with the governing coalition. together, at least you have politicians in the lead, the who c i to i am on the issue of security and defense was postuma use
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of the still defense minister from the social democrats was really struggling to contain his frustration over what i felt was unwilling this to commit to move financial spending in the past. mikaela we are still waiting to hear a see do you leaders including for jewish merits and speak there at that press conference? any idea what they might have to say after their victory on sunday? well, let's put it this way. might have been a victory, but it was not to try it. and you could feel that to your, on the alexa night at the cd you headquarters. they know that they have a lot of work ahead of them. he stay below the psychologically very important 30 percent mark. that's where the comes up to see. do you see you see the was polling in the weeks and months leading up to these elections and that did not translate into votes on election nights. and that will be some soul searching over that, and that could be pot you down to release mads pick.
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