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we use the still defense minister from the social democrats was really struggling to contain his frustration over what i felt was unwilling this to commit to move financial spending in the past. mckayla, we are still waiting to hear a cd you leaders, including fisher's merits and speak there at that press conference, any idea what they might have to say after their victory on sunday, as well, let's put it this way. might have been a victory, but it was not to try it. and you could feel that here on the election night at the see do you headquarters. they know that they have a lot of work ahead of them. he stayed below the psychologically very important 30 percent mark. that's where because of just see do you see you see the was polling in the weeks and months leading up to these elections and that did not translate into votes on election night. and that will be some soul searching over that. and that could be pot you down to release mads picking
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a fight with other policies of the center, but also with parts of his own policy. when he allowed the fall right elton to for gemini, to vote with him to cost decisive votes to gain a majority for non binding motion in german parliament, which was a push back against migration. really, that was a concern here that she deposit from what should have been an easy part to victory for the conservative seed you sees you. and they will also need to find an answer on how to count to the narrative the far right a fuse now trying to spread that it would be all easy if only the conservative seed you sees you overcame the so called firewall. that's the commitment by all policies of the central democratic policies, not to work with the fall rights a if the because of the cd you sees itself as that very firewall. and many people who vote conservative do that because the conservatives weren't team up with the far right. if the not despite so that often gets lost in translation, that of,
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but the pressure is on because if the has doubled, it's a percentage points to above 20 percent. and it has been and can claim for itself that has been driving the political agenda on having a toughest on, on migration. and we can see in the election results. but also in the polling that, that of policies that germans want to see the vast majority once much tied to migration legislation. and she will need to find a path on how he can school that for those who, who, when that is so dominated the final weeks of the election campaign. when he sits down with the social democrats, talk about the potential co listen mckayla. thank you so much for your reporting there from the cd. you headquarters in berlin, that is our chief political editor at mckayla cooper. and we do want to cut away just for a moment to, to give those, if you were just joining us, an update on the latest numbers with the official results from sundays national
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election now in conservative freezers merits, as we said, as boys to become the countries next chancellor, here's a cd you z as you block set to lead a future government. and actually before we turn to those numbers, i understand that he has just arrived and is about to begin speaking after seed you headquarters. let's see if i can get back to the cd you in berlin and have a listen in of the opposing side. that's something i think is necessary. thank you. thank you ladies and gentlemen from welcome. oh no. that's all it is. yeah, it was great, but i think, yeah, you great, really. i'm doing great. how can help us with come to a point where time into the press conference with the chair of the cd. you may
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flipping a mass entry agents, hudson and i'm on general. the secretary to see daniel costs minimum of the size is the meeting i to is okay. and off of the general election. and that's why you turn on. and so large numbers, you have to raise your hand very clearly so that i can see you. and that's, that's the way to get all the data. that'd be great. i'll just come, do you have the flow of mr. mads? well, welcome difficulties. all. so there is a good mode here that we also enjoyed last night. redeem uh you know, to move on to the morning. i was just for some this morning with a smaller executive committee of the c d. u. we evaluated the election resolved. i'd like to 1st saying the 14000000 voters who voted for you the seed. you see as you, for their support yesterday we have achieved an extraordinary good election resulted in these 4.4 percent increase in price and the focus on 4.4 percent. the continue. the other thing is we got 3000000 more votes. and the
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last time 2500000 for the cd you and 500004 the c, a c with the very interest of body, which is a great success. also due to the a t, right mobilization of the players who competitors and was watched at down by that spot. we have gotten rid of the government mandate, which is also conceded and stated file uploaded to competitors. a way of going to accept this mandate to form a government. i want to express my credit issued or directed you to customer minimize the general to the secretary. and as my as christine, i still like to get that with the staff of the seed. you ahead, well, i test the colored out in our building. we have seen ending. no, i'm is performance in this very short election campaign that we were pretty pat form. you know, that i have told the style of the headquarters already. and so i know that there
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might be an election, snappy election and from 6 of november on we knew that there will be a saturday election which took place yesterday and we were well prepared for it. we have carried out a very committed election campaigned, and this is why i want to say again, was a hot failure to st. jude to this stuff on the head quota. you've done the most to gets to help us with these elections and without your support, we would have been able to achieve this result. we have gotten that clear government mandate and if i look at the meeting schedule, we are going to have for 208 mandates seats for the cd. you will see is you more than out uh we had last time in a small uh, auto problem. and so we have 11 mandate small and then before all together with us we do. yeah. we have
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a 328 out of 630 seeds. so we are able to form a coalition in government been consisting of see do you see as u. n. d s b d, that is what we want. and this is what i found the support for those who are doing the it says this committees meeting way, go into how it talks. they have already this, they've been prepared. we already had some preliminary talks and we're going to is have a talk with the project share of the s b d. i'm going to talk to the john so that as well. so that we can plan a transition phase, a transition phase, which is going to take a couple of weeks now, good amongst the topics that need to be discussed is the res solid of the federal elections under the new election law. let me draw your attention to the photo. in fact, we have the for the 1st time,
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a 2nd to vote coverage. and also you can direct candidates from the constituents, you can own the excess size them and that if there is enough 2nd thoughts, we now have 23 direct candidates likes to me increase in gemini, a couple of the pole uh, sponsors affected by this eating 23 candidates for a membership have one in their constituency, but they cannot exercise the mandate under this new legislation to the detriment, predominantly of the cd, you know, 18 out of these 23 mandates were advocated to the cd like 15 for the cd. you 3 for the c s you entered 18 and told her just for the completeness of the picture . this includes 5 women, ones that are sent to consistency. and because of the new legislation that you cannot exercise, the mandate was one of the quite often one of the education most of the state that
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had been said in front of the, the federal constitutional the cards. and as much as other stuff that side devices, members of parliament would come in over the list is not particularly we now have full constituency in germany, which do not have any direct representative. this puts, it pertains to downsize, to a condo and tutoring in total, c, t, and food cities in gemini, which do not have a single direct candidate of any of the parties because they would be orphan constituencies these unacceptable. and this is why i got the mandate from the executive committee that we're going to talk about a change of the legislation together with the s p d such as nation, a. lexi and legislation attempted to damages our democracy. we have 4 cities without a minute, give a member of parliament and there are 23 directly elected to the
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members of parliament to whom cannot exercise been men to 818 of whom come from the cd with sonya is you. this is a response. a reason that's an election legislation that has been passed by the previous government, which was pre coming to the, to the detriment of the cd. when that has to be changed. this is not the new ton of this topic off the political parties is the question of fair representation of constituencies in gemini, and if 23 in a court of districts vote and either that their own representative would, you can or cannot then exercise their mandate. this is a very important topic and they're off that topics that we have to discuss, the fire and security policy, particularly for knowing the statements from washington of last week. it has become clear subject to you in your a we need to become able to act very swiftly. we in europe need to set up our roland, the defense capabilities. this is
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a top priority topic for the next couple of weeks. we have to talk about that. the 2nd important topic, you know, it's all, it is my migration and unsolved migration questions. the proposal that we have made our way known. you all remember that you paid that we had during the last week of january regarding the migration limitation act that we propose. and i assume that the social democrats are going to be willing to talk about these topics with us and solve the problem. and it's 3rd important topic and so you cannot make situations the situation of our industry to start with. we need to maintain and retain our industrial jobs and to i think that the social democrats and contracts with the greens aust, strongly interested in maintaining our industrial jobs in germany. and i just want to mention with one constituency involves one city, which the speed he used to win during all the elections. by this time,
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it went to the c d, u. so even in these fast humans where the matter because union is very strong, the equity has been very strong with the industrial workers are very strong, the speed he is losing safety and sees that should be reason enough of the social democrats to start talking about the economics policy and talking about the future of the industry and jeremy. these are the 3 topics that i will cover to get with the social democrats and asked what priority topics knuckle, including the. i'd like to say that in by end of the difficult situation, we're currently in also as a result of the election. i am confident that we will manage to find solutions and to bring about the sooner solutions. the very fact that the amc has doubled its number of seats and not stuck from 0. i'm also going to have some numbers 8 rows from 10.4 to 20.8. so in top of that, it's present each year out. it now has 10300000 votes from starting from
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4.6 lot from 2000000 votes. and this is a fixed interest nami cigna and is a very clear sequences that we need to find comments at ocean's. and i'm going to take on this mandate, i am willing and the term in to hold swift and constructive talks with the cd. and we believe that east and we should be able to form the government in germany. i want to repeat what i said yesterday. the world is not waiting for us, it is going to continue the fight, nothing at break, and it is speed and jammed in needs. a government which is able to act with a parliamentarians has majority so that the current state of affairs can be overcome swiftly. business in the interest a hold of us and if need be and i asked portfolio where the exercise value function of the chancellor as somebody who has the mandate
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to take the lead for the entire country to lead the country out of the crises and make sure that we find approval and more confidence and trust on the part of the citizens of this country full arise for the political bodies of the democratic center. we need to regain that trust. and i believe that some of you wish and my assessment that the selections on both these legit as if to the head of our offices will be one of the last opportunities for us to manage this regaining of trust of the population. i am confident that we can manage to regain this trust, although a couple of days went past the next sunday. we're going to have your directions and come back to that from next week on we're going to start. i was very constructive talks with the s b, d. so you, if i'm going to be to form a government under my leadership which is able to act and which has to be part of ontario and majority, it needs to be thank you very much mr. nevada,
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have an offer me on has, has nice and gentlemen, i also want to welcome you to the discussion. i'd say to you a headquarters that needs to be come to the next is hi john sla will be for the mass. he's the right man at the right point in time, but there's also a common understanding regarding the challenges ahead of us. these are the challenges that all you know him is in terms of that magnitude and therefore we believe that the direction resolve. it is an expression of trust that we need to pay back to that part. and over the next 4 years, we're not only put it on billboards. it is something that we need to see. we need a change of what it is, is that something that needs to come about this election. victory was the 1st step and that is what everybody believes is the case. and the next step needs to be done about this is our understanding is in the present in but also in the executive committee and with his energy and with this, my mentor. and we're going to start taking up the tall. i'm now on my to change the
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by many on election campaign. us 5 comes to we had the election campaign during the winter season. there were many team members worked such as the so i tired is the day and night. i want to thank you for your commitment for your engagement and it's we will live off to these things by you bring in about all these political change that we urgently need in germany. in front of you. we're going to talk about the most important period for a long period of time, which is nice directly ahead of us. that is move on to your question, a lot to show this or the floor. let's see how many questions we can cover and defrost is quite as low as mr. black. yes, we're surprised now to see there's just some missed ads out yesterday to had a telephone. talk with the mistake in this, in general, this and then you invited him to come to germany. how do you want to make sure that
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he wouldn't be detained as result of the arrest warrant issued by the international criminal court and goals? and guess we had a telephone call, he rang me and congratulated me. we know each other quite well. you know, was this and to i told him that we should see each other on the slide to sweep the after the formation of the government and implants, we come to germany. i told him that we would find ways for him to be able to visit germany and also leave gemini without him being detained because it's a visa idea that and he's really, if it's minister, president cannot come to germany, he will be able to visit germany. mr. days and that's and $0.75 and i've, i'm just getting question regarding the transatlantic relationship yesterday. you were very critic regarding the u. s. government, because of,
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and you said so yourself that you would have never believed that you would make such a statement on jem tv on, on asking for independence from the united states. does that mean in the deals that you have given up on the idea that you can concluded to utilize width and from by that a deal can be a chief business. something that you said, months ago, couple or can i have to bridge has been torn down or is there an opportunity to still pull something off together with united states also with a got to a defense issue. i was always shipping. thank you very much for the questions. the fact of them it's already so i wouldn't believe that i would think the no to speak of even say something like this, about the all the things that we're getting from united states show that the interest in europe is flagging. clearly the commitment and we're winning, those to commit themselves to europe is decreasing. but i hope that we can convince the americans that it's in the mutual interest. we have good trans,
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up ending relationships between both of us. nice. that is always the case. in worst case, you always need to reckon with the worst case or gain. you need to find ways of dealing with such a case. and i mean, it goes to a set deposition america 1st on not only put america fast, but who are basically saying america. now the other, if that is the case, things are going to become difficult. but i still want to believe and want to hope that we would manage to maintain the trans atlantic relationship. it's in the, our mutual interest, and so to should be destroyed discounts on it. we're not only be to the detriment of your it will also be to the detriment of america, and this is where i am going to do everything that i can do it to don. so hard to maintain. so also said the goods transatlantic relationship that i have come to note about that requires that we find common ground in europe. i had a long telephone, talked with him,
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and you and my crony was on their way. 400 on his way to washington. will you come back briefly? the topic said he wants to raise with the american presidents. and i found a toe to for talking overlap between what he ones to state and what my thoughts on these topics on miss z, but to see. and i'm thinking the answers, but again, i'm savannah dash b, i'm going to repeat in bonus tighter. i would like to ask a question regarding the minority and lying on the side of the a f d. and the desire for the body. how do you want to deal with this with a view to the special assets and especially the funds where you have to widen the circle of goals that you've talked to. and i cannot answer this question what we see. it just came in the name leap. i mean that we're going to have a blocking minority of the far left and 5 right parties in parliament. and let's just assume that they would use the air
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possibility join today and all that could also take the form of an extension. or is there rejection also propose that then we don't have a constitution. i'm not supposed to be changing majority team can. we can also left the judges to the constitutional clause, but before i talk about that in public, i would like to 1st talk to the s p d and the greens, the twenty's that's going to start will be in the office on to 24th to the top of march these yeah. in other words, what's left is for weeks for us to think about these topics, how to do with it, but bear with me. i don't want to do that in public, mr inc. i think the master. thank you mister man, it's good now one day after lunch at this is the point where i'd like to come in.
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that was the officer, propose it by mister, how big between east and it is in the current going to stock is the current list, which is the time the debt seating or especially the assets could be a certain age. is that something that you cannot exclude, that you don't want to exclude? you said you want to have talked with the expertise and degrees and tend to tell us what you of the concrete purpose of the, the s p d is you expressed optimism that you're going to find common ground. but you, there will be some of that has to be made from you. this be the, to start with. we're going to offer a good only trust based on confidential construct and constructive tones ought to be hooked us and dissing woods that i am not going to publicly express speculations about individual topics. it in good minds. i'm. we just have to analyze to see where the i is of
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a sense of use on the joint grounds where there are differences. we need to stay and take stock. do we understand the challenges ahead of us in the same and the bed, all the rest with emanate from that deductible is talking to the agent. so i don't know, i don't see the stock john problem. it is always ready to take decisions, which is the difference between the compliment and the blue stock itself. the government always needs the majority of the problem and is always able also after the elections able to act without any interruption. i remember times that where uh after the election decisions taken by on the department regarding the plummet of the attempt on policies. so we're just seems to have to be taken. we can take these, i'm going to talk about these are as with the current interest in potties is going to stock espied a ingredients via ftp. we have been given the band dates,
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but as i said, i don't want to speculate about that in public. i'd like to cover these talks then with the parties concerned a mattress. i don't know. what we've got now is i've got a question regarding the election resolve. it's in the eastern states on the see do you? yes. you see is you block hasn't won a sing the electoral district sequencing the contingency now there is a regionally election coming up in the section on what will you do in order to prevent the a, f d from the pre phase included. thank you very much. course from doc for this question, the colleagues from the ease go our attention to the problems. the with urgency ended strive what you said. we haven't wanted a single seat in the eastern states during current election campaign in individuals . and so you can see we had some orphaned constituencies and we provided specialist support in terms of the s and the and funding we're going to continue supporting
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them and continue that support. but we would also have to talk about the topics that lead to the selection was on it. we have very, very worried about what we observing, dallas, and with regards to the upcoming regional elections. taking place. not founding section to another but also in making book with supplement range in here, but in now. so evictions are going to take place next year which is a topic that has to be covered with in this context off this election. but there was a short, strong move on to the left, and there is a strong support for the ride, the eastern districts of the city. but it's too early to draw conclusions each, right and all. but you may, as you own, that we're going to deal with these questions. intensive for the east is also put in the questions of the trends. i think relationship, the relationship come from shots, the relationship away attitude towards you. afraid all of these topics play a role in this discussion. but again, i'd like to cover these topics in detail,
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joining the internal discussions. but take this as a take home message that we observe with a lot of concern. what we are seeing there in the east to the photos, and because it's on the east tent as where just a couple of head use the head to the minds them seem to be above you. were living in the west. these are for the we need to make sure that we are able to solve the problems and try to count uh, the strong support of the a. if the in the eastern time i talked about some of the concerns that you have about the trump administration, or how do you wants to position and germany as far as the united states is concerned, to prevent confrontations with a trumpet, ministration for germany, for europe and how concerned are you about donald trump? efforts at rebuilding relations with russia to the detriment of both europe and ukraine, that you all have like, is he alone? does your thoughts on fall to him? he's been to me. is this art about us us?
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let me say that i am extremely concerned about what we heard from washington, particularly in recent days because they're dismissed of so i don't actually believe the final word has been spoken on this matter. and i've heard from congress that there are very different noises emerging. the mary hugh, many americans who quite critical thomas is taken by the us administration taskbar, i didn't was all this. i says is that on the european side of the atlantic, we speak with one voice or at least have one approach on the issues that we have to deal with just to give you one example. trade policy is our european. it is not co national tv and there is no option to, to treat the different to be use member state this differently. in terms of terrorists, we will have to speak with one voice as the not in the same is true for nato not to get some kind of june is going to be the nato summit, hague. and until then,
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at the latest, it will emerge. how the transatlantic relationship is developing and then it will become clear what role the you wants to take on like what the contribution is going to be in terms of defense. and a very much hope that the u. s. of it's designed when to decide that it is in their own interests to be involved in europe. what we're seeing quite willingly is decisions being made about ukraine without ukraine over the head. so these are the you, you wouldn't be surprised to hear that this is an acceptable for bus ukraine and the you from yet was because we in guns and, and the 2nd road to the right hand. now these are, would you like to ask a question else is still on vacation, so i am from the is tonia and it's easier to, it's going to make the state of the functions of the moment and engage an american
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. so just leave the eastern blank of nato with a term, sanchez, so stay there. it's been definitely about sort of the nato knocking for it's my firms conviction that nato didn't come, works and works well behind that image by it's kind of close to contact, touch screen unix figures to council with not what time it was because he has a 60 general of nato, and i believe that my go to his one who come kits in concept that has one of the most important functions and the trans atlantic relationship. i know that i'm not going to end this. donald trump have a good relationship on this d. i therefore hope hospice and i'm working on the assumption at least today that we have an opportunity to retain the transatlantic relationship with the nato heights us. i'm very pleased to see that the k and the other piece from continental this is annette is coming closer to the positions that would be a member states and as contributing my talk within nato to the who color. i'm
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native south police. i am cautiously optimistic that we will succeed here, bicycle and in terms of our presence in got it about 60 states in less awaiting a, you know that itself is a presence there and that my parliamentary group is always support suddenly into this way. now, i have been to the base where the gate is being set up, and this is a commitment that will remain and expanded on ms. kirk. now, system max from where you're standing right now today. what is your message to donald trump? the importance of this guns i drove home, telephone messages very clear and straightforward. we are very much interested as your opinions to have a good relationship with us and to maintain this relationship. lucy, ourselves as partners. we see the u. s. i to investigate. why is it not unimportant size, the heart of nato to visit the you is also an important part.

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