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donald trump. funding on most buttons match valves, he will under no circumstance, will continue with the fall runners to die on to the point we are literally from ubs to the rescue. is he the man to fix your ups? broken back? the hello. welcome to this special edition of to the point one day of the germany's general election. i've got off is good to have you with us. let me introduce my panel today. trust the month to month. she leaves the parliamentary bureau of grinders a post. that's a reasonable daily newspaper here in germany. gold and the pin scheme, the executive editor, germany for political names, websites, and stunning a go far safe correspondence in europe for vet shafts of off of business weekly. here in germany,

a very welcome to all of you. let's start with a brief hold of the results and what does this result say about the current political move in germany? the current political mood is a mood of change. it's not the window of change about the world of change. i think the people of germany was set up with the politics with the center. so center left politics. we saw the last 3 years and well, they decided for change. but the center last yesterday and the fall riots gained a lot of votes. so it will be very hard to, to, and in the coming years. but it's not a radical change. is it? is it sort of focus that correction to the right. but it's, it's not a radical change in terms of the possible coalition. i wouldn't say it's a radical change because now you have the opportunity to, to have a relatively stable government of the conservatives and the social democrats. but the that happened by chance we have to say also because one of the new populace

parties, the b s. w. so the form of socialist leaders of, of august 8th and her group just barely didn't make it into the parliament. if that had to be, you know, a gun out differently, then we would stand in a completely different situation. but we have to see that the a, if the has nearly doubled the, the sort of piece of cake and the parliament that we will see from above is no really huge fun. and that will change the political debate. and obviously that's a lot of pressure on the new government to govern law successfully than the collision did before. because otherwise we will see a more radical change. and for us to say in this matter, for now the cd or for the mass of course, optically a when is not as big as they had hoped, they didn't even reach the so the 30 percent. so why, why is that 60 makes several mistakes strategic mistakes. the last was the,

the votes together with a f d in questions of migration. and i think that a few office possible voters in the, in the center lose the confidence that he will never go. all along on the side on the f t. m. that may be the reason because he knows one or 2 percent he owns in all the pulse before. when we remember the weeks before, we have 3132 and if more percent for a fresh match and has a potty. but now it's clear under this magic 30 percent limits what he himself expected. i think one of the reason is the strategic mistake bocce together safety and the just didn't like him so much. yeah. well yeah, yes. he is not such a person who has some guy here. he's very tall here. sometimes seems to be arrogant and goes very far. it's just not very polite. so he wasn't the ideal candidate for

the person who will cut the union. yeah, so he only represent part of his own party. you can see you can divide this party until 3 pots and t is that the right wing part, the economic part, and t is not the representative of the center part. people joining the churches, even the women in the city. and this is the maximum results you can have for the kind of like in, but that was clear before, let's have a, a closer look at the, the new man who will, in all likelihood, be in charge of germany for the next 4 years, who is sleepless mats for just man, he's the victim this federal election with a cd you c, as you can serve to the lines you secure twins, 9 percent of the vote via hub and we've won this 2025 federal election of on the year. that's a poor showing. the 2nd was to make some result in the parking system. still mounts,

hopes to force a governing coalition swiftly, ideally, before easter, preferably with the social democrats. i see that the cost the world won't wait for us once. once even want to wait for long drawn out coalition negotiations, a few on $400.00 when we must be capable of acting again quickly. and so we can do the right thing in germany so that we have present the game in europe fencing. and so that the world sees germany has a reliable government game here and that they buy a conservative who is healthy. economy front incentive, his entire political career to this mounts. a polarizing figure whose taking a share of political blows, including from uncle america. disappointed mounts return to his business career. you've been a political come back in 2022, he became leader of the c d. u. then the candidate for johnson. as winter of the selection will mats be able to unify a polarized country,

get the economy back on track, and strengthened germany against the currently house international clients. now, is he the right man to stiffen europe's backbone? that is the only man that the no, because there's no alternative and zoning and i think he has a lot of experience and political questions. he was uh, even though he never held office, he never had an office, but that will not mean that he had no experience in governing a country, but he has a lot of political experience. he started his k, we're in the parliament. so he has a long view on europe, and then he managed to be the leader of the fraction of the parliamentary group and in the 1st things, 1st row. and then after this, he had 10 years break from politics. he was at because he was the manager of, we're sort of a big company in, in the us. and he collected

a lot of experience in the, in the corporate and the community. and yes, a lot of relationships close relationships to american police the scene as well. um, he was the chairman of the atlantic bridge, which is a well known association here in germany. and so he has a lot of experience in political questions, who do not have experience in governing a country. and that is something he had to learn. he has to make compromises. he had to saw lines into photo of his long lines for strategic question, especially in europe. and then we will see what will come in all likelihood will form a coalition with the social democrats. how big of a gap is that politically between the 2 parties? um, there is a gap, certainly on the course of the questions of the upcoming for us, which are migration and economic reform. it's a, i don't think it's something that is not possible to be solved. i mean,

obviously the approaches and migration policy are very different. and i think that what the social democrats tried to do in the past 4 years, what was to to enhance more strict migration policies, but within the legal framework. whereas the conservative party and for the business of sort of challenge the legal framework, the, the european legal framework that is, yeah, i mean, mostly the european legal framework. but it came to rejecting a legal migrants at the national board us. that is the most predominant point in that regard. so that will be quite a discussion how to really make a visible step forward without violating international or european law on the economic reform. i think um the approaches are very different. the kinds of attempt to additionally conservative approach would be rather go into reducing social

benefits, you know, making a lean are creating a liter state. whereas the social democrats would rather go into spending. i think you can combine the 2, but then you obviously needs more money. so we're in the middle of, i think the most crucial question in germany, which is like how to organize the finances and the budget. and i think this would be the 1st of all questions. you're going to come to that in a moment because i'd like to, to oft match. it said yesterday that we're going to have a new government by east or, you know, this pretty quite well. uh yeah, how do you say i doubt it because, um, well, there's no a break. um those connie, well, we have an election coming up next to the next sunday and i'm book and the social democrats are about twins, the state. so they really want to keep it come now and um it will take awhile because it's the social democrats who are really defeated. now, go into such a coalition. it will take time because they have to ask the members, maybe there's

a peptide tack and the party convention, and they have to decide, do we, do we go, this was foolish math or you don't so. so the question would be difficult. that would be very difficult and the social democrats are now to with things the teen to go into these talks and they have left thing by all the parts you need or it would be a crucial person. and both custodial as the minister of the defendants defense and um, so they build a team, but it would be hard for them those to to, to watch in the city. so yeah. and clean violence, restore us and the others like um my teeth know she's the general secretary of the party and there are some women of course vasquez, who and she's still party leader co leader. it's really hard for her. i don't know if she's the wife is all the circumstances but them, well they're out of,

but it's not the only 3. they 5, they've stuff with a historical defeat. and yet they did come out as one of the winners because they're still in, in government as it no one else as it, as it, as it looks now. but let's, let's bring in the, the, of a big winner of this evening. that's the the find, right? a if the doubling their share with the vote to around 20 percent, that's another historic a fast they will be in a position. but how big will their influence be? so quite, quite big because you'd see from the, from the results of the national elections, 20 percent each 5th low to vote for a f t. and if you see the, the map of germany in eastern germany, it's all blue. it's nearly every a pod as a if d is the 1st and the row. and this will be a heavy problem, especially in, in the eastern part of germany. so on the other hand,

80 percent of the german said no to the 50 and that is a quite big majority. and so i have to, you have to take it into relation to the don't under estimate them don't on an estimate the, the consequences we will see if the, the new government will be not successful. but to, i'm still optimistic that that will be all, everybody knows that it's the time to make some efforts to make some step forwards and to they they have, they have to be successful in disco otherwise, in the next 2 lowest elections, i fear that will be another result for the streets, another mind that that's what they have to install. now the amounts of said he will not cooperate with the a f d come what may. and yet let's have a listen to what the f d is lead to at least 5 of us to say to that. one is most, i'm sorry, i will say one thing, hon. our hand will always be out distract stein to take part in government for the

time to go on in order to enact the will of the people in the will of germany on, on. so that's one question for you at how long can it possibly be ignored and from that receives 20 percent of about. so i'm not sure if they're being ignored. i mean, i think that's a, that's a decent majority against a if the, you know, i don't think it's a revolution to see a great coalition, and i think it's logical that this is the 1st choice. i think if we had seen a more complicated situation than this, which would have been very possible, i think we would have had a debate within the conservative party, not in the leadership maybe, but on a lower level, whether it would be time to speak for the 50, and i think this is a, a situation even though it's mounts absolutely clearly and, and, and we can trust them here, rules out to work together with a,

if the there are the parts we think that this debate should be, should be left at some point i mean, we, what we will see obviously is if the government is not successful, then probably if the will gain more votes. i think it, we are currently already in a situation where they almost made it to inconsistencies in west, in germany. they did when constituencies in terms of the party vote on in terms of the, of the candidate vote and in and run it. that's what i was in the, in that yeah, exactly. and then the south west of germany and because it's all done and also particularly in the world of it's in the form of the industrial. yeah. and a core of north of the salia. so there is a change that's kind of flows over from eastern germany to west and germany, and that's a serious situation. again, i can just you know, underline, we're done with that and it, it's all about the success of the nest next government only then the id numbers can

go down and measure of that success is of course, how the economy is going. uh, we've been 2 years in recession here in germany. what's on madison's economic to do this? yeah, i think it's the classic program from a conservative party. it's a patrick texas its uh, reducing uh, their aqua c. it tried to. yeah, to change the the transformation offer into still a pod in germany. um the question is, what is more in parking? lots has to be reached quaker or faster, the climate change or the situation of the industry and move is a favorite change. he would try to make the, the transformation of the industry, the country like germany is a very heavy task and you have to be very expecting this. and the impression from icims is people and this is potty, is that the grains that the form of government?

what to, to and vicious with that, losing control over over other questions and that will be, i think the most important change beside all these other effects i mentioned before . one of the issues that the former coalition stumbled over was the so called dead break, which is enshrined and the german constitution that limits the amount of borrowing that a government can do that will be massive amounts of money needed for defense. that will becomes clear and clear. uh if that's uh, that is the case. a company that break survive. it really and we will uh call it was another. it will be another name for it. but um for this match just uh, gave signals. so t's more than willing to, to invest in infrastructure in uh, security in uh, the army and he will need the money. and there were the social democrats really liked to get money from the market to well,

to invest in the country. they will do it, will they, will that be enough? the problem is that the majority of these have changed to an extent that you don't have a constitutionally valid majority now in the new parliament to, to really make that's a good if can change in terms of the designated to a to search. sorry to hear exactly. so you can't do that anymore. now are already created him. it is started to, to really good for him for the way it's all sort of, i mean the, the majority in the problem and changes on the day of the constitution of the new parliament this, this would be within 4 weeks. but obviously, until then you could technically find the majority and, and, and bring that change into reality. but that would also mean really fast negotiations and solution on what to do with the money. so i think it's so far,

it's maybe a bit of a fantasy, but it shows what challenges are ahead of this new call this and i'm not quite sure if the 1st thing you want to change is to give out this position, comparing to the, to the depth break may be there's will be able to resolve a further negotiations of calls, but will not be the 1st thing. and i expect that that will be other solutions because there's the majority is not available as you need the 2 thirds majority. and so that may be in a way, besides ways, the so called emergency effect. so it can say we are now in the new global situation. and the us government take away the umbrella to protect europe. and we need more money for defense. and so we have another situation and perhaps you can argue with that that will be much more easier to event. so to find a majority in the bonus tag, along to the if the and the left on the trunk of the white house, we will have

a discussion about defense and budget costs and thought about a security or army. we'd be ready for fighting against an don't know, a russia in 70 years. so it costs money. i mean, currently what we're experiencing here is a new government coming in. so for the 1st time, with a real possibility of the security, i brought up that the us of provider being pulled away on the i mean the cars are really redistributed right now. is mats in terms of his transatlantic views? is he better suited to deal with the trump administration and trump himself then, for example, schultz could have been i doubt that because um his positive approach to the u. s. and his deep understanding of the country has really rapidly changed after the the was from mr. trump himself about the ukraine of to whence speech in unit.

and he definitely took another position towards the us government. so i think uh you cannot say okay, mattress was a transatlantic guy. he was uh the chairman of the atlantic bridge. so he would get along with the drum, the only thing he he can do is to be on the same level like electronic. so it is a i to i yeah. so i to, i'm not to interfere. determined to go to go on the niece to the white house, that's the worst thing you can do. and that's matt's from his character. and from the way he is taking politics, i think that will be a possibility for me, but that's the only one. he also 5 minute famous that has a bit of a short fuse. sometimes not unlike the amount of the white house. do you think that will help? because i don't think it's a disadvantage. i think uh, it makes sense to, to play the same game with all of them, but i think politically as can much rather do that then his,

his predecessor. so i think on that level of this room for optimism that, you know, there's very masculine game that probably will take place than in the white house or wherever they need. so, you know, with, with be this will be what it is, but the that might also lead to resolves, i mean, in terms of the terrace that he can, as was very outspoken already and say, okay, if, if you want to impose tyra's, we will do the same, and then the, the whole story will the end and the best world he could imagine would be if both lowered arrows but on ukraine. i mean, certainly footage matched. we'll see more responsibility for germany in, for europe if they want to keep up the support for ukraine. and that again requires a lot of money and a lot of investment, but i think there's no other tenants here that you want to keep the values high end politic. that's was very clear on that. he was suppose you're creating the way that has happened before. even without the administration. so today's was a result of yes, it is result. you say it's good news for your friend?

no, i don't think it's good news for ukraine. i think. i think what else was and, and the, the mass are not very far away from each other. i think there's a continuity with maybe a bit of a percentage more support for ukraine, but that's on low level. i think before you create them, it's much more important what happens in the senate or in the white house, and they can just hope that the europeans get the things together to, to keep on supporting. right. do you think that a germany it can now become a stronger voice for the hold of your as we hope so? i hope so. i think that is this a need for it? what i've saw it's wasn't the strong voice for germany in europe and process. so um i really hope of, with his mouth and his ambition to be a yeah, very clear to the french positive. i mean, i know my call will help to many and had fonts and have you are. and don't forget

he's, he's a conservative and the majority and video component is from the open cup of people's party as well. the most of the commissions, off from the root can people's party. and from, from this view he has a, yeah, he has some assistance and some help from, from his to wait important institutions. on the other hand, of course, he had to make his compromises, whether you can lead us into your pin console and we'll see what he's able to do. but the expectations are very high. and what he must do is to take this german wrote as it always isn't, you take leadership but pay. so is it. yeah. but that that's the combination. you cannot because i'd like to come to a final route and i'd like to some of the maps has to leave on. the 4th is kick, start the economy, cut back on social spending loose that that break be a strong central figure in the you help face down putting a stand up to end at the same time. some trump haven't gotten anything. uh 3 has

the just taken on the toughest gig and german posts for history. i mean he was running for chancellor. yes, of course. i mean, a, it's not only germany is a, is most of the western democracies which are standing in front of the same challenges and for these mounts has done that. i think he's a lucky man because he can do that in a graphical this. and then he doesn't have to form a 3 party clinician. so i mean that's what he always wanted. so we can start, he's very self confident. so he's supposed to be ever facing any illusions about what comes soon. so i think we're doing really, really succeed well, i hope so. i mean, yeah, but i, i don't lose any trust and i think he is the lead of others. i agree, as i think we should be a bit optimistic and give him a chance. he's a new face and he should do the best well that we come to the end of today's program. thank you very much to my panel and thank you for sharing

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