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time the day our peers and rivals, which one dear and gold, to help smart nature, the boy likes watching on youtube dw documentary. the, if you're watching the video is going to live from berlin. the growing rift, which means the us and europe over ukraine, takes center stage at the united nations. the u. s. brakes ranks with a 0 can allies of voting against a resolution condemning brushes, invasion of ukraine, french president and monument mcclung picks up a heated discussion during your visit to the white house. also ahead on our show, 3 years after russia's full scale invasion, ukrainians are paying tribute to the victims, including the massacre at boot shop. we speak with alexandra mutual,
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whose organization once the nobel peace prize in 2022, for documenting alleged russian war crimes. and rebel forces in democratic republic of congo capture swats of the countries east. despite military support for j. r. c. from several countries, including south africa they are, is these prime minister says more than $7000.00 people in killed since january the empire. richardson. thank you very much for joining us. the united states has flipped with european allies of the united nations by refusing to blame russia for its invasion of ukraine. the u. s. and france, bread, odds of the web security council, where the us failed to back a resolution labeling russia as the aggressor in ukraine's war. and despite this president, trump has again stated that the conflict could end within weeks and that president
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zalinski might be back in washington this week or next as a dramatic shift in transatlantic relations at the un security council. for years out of the us has voted in favor of resolutions that take place affirming ukraine's territorial integrity and calling on russia to seize hostilities to under president donald trump. us is taking a different stance or since it's but the time for russia and ukraine to make difficult choices and, and the fighting is now we call on all other un member states to join the united states in pushing for a durable piece that will bring stability to europe and deter further aggression general us is adopting a neutral stance that does not right condemn russia, causing a split with its european allies. but both in the general assembly joined russia, north korea, iran and others in voting against the resolution drafted by ukraine on the 3rd
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anniversary of moscow was invasion. and let me read 281. let me assure you that ukraine wants peace more than anyone, but not any peace. we must be mindful of the fact that this is existential war. this is existential wolf, within tide. democratic wrote power, democratic principles, and values. and the russia has repeatedly tried to dismantle these rules this order . and it was a cute architecture that it is impossible to stop with the rest. and by appeasing appeasement doesn't work. the less, instead pushed for its own competing resolution named the path to peace quote, calls for swift and to the war without naming russia as the aggressor a we cranes, european allies, led by friends or proposed amendment to the us tax. to underline that the conflict was the result of russia's invasion, military operate. that's what it is. it's
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a rush. i chose to bring them back to europe and soil. then over the past 3 years. and i do have russia has been waging a brutal, illegal unjustifiable aggression against ukraine, with a late since disregard for international humanitarian law. i'm in the city, very cool, pretty popular. as you'll see, the left us however abstain from voting on the amended version. if it's resolution and, and eventually the un security council adopted washington's original resolution with 10 votes in favor, man and 5 extension was a statement i spoke with a brief party a who has the strategic consultancy rasmussen global. and he gave me his take on the us signing with russia. i think you went over ukraine. so what i think you're seeing right now is re alignment. not just for to commit to christians, but i think there's something more from them on to that we saw in munich,
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the munich security conference. we say us vice president speech, which basically was a n t leave or speech sheet to us against a certain version of our society, e and democracy, which is very much alive with the way the russians have been criticizing us for be to open to certain groups so to turn it around and not enough uh, to what other groups must be to defy. right. so i think this is not just about diplomacy and about reaching some a ceasefire a 2nd month in ukraine. it's about possibly the us and restriction sharing some of the kind of a visions of values with the occupant of the criminal. stay with us for just a moment. if you would, i'd like to take a look at something else that's happened recently regarding this you as move away from you allies at the when that's cause concern in europe. and we've seen a president trump meeting with french of president and my mama crohn at the white
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house on monday. where i'm a crohn said that it was a francis aim to build a long lasting peace. and that europe was ready to be a stronger partner to the west and to step off its defense spending and crumbs expressed hope that the war would be coming to an end while with chrome caution that any potential agreement with russia should not mean surrender for ukraine. cars if this gruesome and bloody war can scarcely be overestimated. hundreds of thousands of people, russians and ukrainians in particular of needlessly died. and i've spoken with both president potent and president zalinski. and again, a lot of a lot of good things toward peace are happening. moving and i think pretty quickly and i know next steps you'll have to do supposedly ended up in the us of the wires or the don't the layers of the is a couple of the each and didn't want this one because this piece must not be in and
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besides render, oh got one crane and must not certain that these one without guarantee condition. so then feeds a lag in the new software to keep the, the frame 2 is associated with the 2 other stable the let's go back to puppies port here from rasmussen. global for comment here. do you think we're crohn was able to get through to trump and presenting european position during their meeting at the white house? it maybe the next question is isaac managed to convince, tried to change or to re balance his approach to the, to the war. and clearly my call dropped the right documents. we could maybe the pro that these documents can be too late in the, at washington. the sure that'd be possibly a part of the table already the month ago. but it's not clear whether those documents, however corrected, which is you create and need some sleep sick. got
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a security guarantees, you know, the to preserve each independent. and so right. in a postwar context, those arguments, i'm not sure have really visualate that we've done a truck. this is, i think, also a big part of new york and quite frankly, will have not managed to assemble the convincing and off big enough plan to take to washington. there to say, hey, look, we're willing to put that much skinny in the game, we're willing to take on that much risk and cover that much cost. but we do need the united states of america contributions to our security guarantees. and we also need to have a seat at the table, open negotiation. so it comes, it'd be like the late mission, but not clear whether you made any difference at this stage. now the us president has also said that he thinks vladimir putin would accept a european peacekeepers in ukraine. and that of course would be a big departure from what we have previously heard from russia. what do you make of this? so what i think is interesting uh, but the key,
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the key here is for us europe, a disc keepers uh or. busy or europe and troops in ukraine to note that the us troops have them back. and i think this probably was the key one of the key parts of the conversation behind close doors, between my cohen try and peas, whether the united states would be the guarantors of the characters. and this is where there has been developed and so far by the by trumpet news advisors and eve. there was somebody fault on that. there was some progress. i think it would really be key for the u. k. but also gemini and other countries to be willing to take the risk because there is a risk obviously of putting europe in forces on ukrainian ground or ukrainian air and murray, time space territory and waters. and this issue that we keep circling back to of making sure that europe and also have a seat at the table over any negotiations over the future of ukraine or their
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arguments they could make to donald trump. that would be convincing to the us administration to try to make this case to what i think do call i commodities uh that europe has some leverage in any piece resolution. uh, with uh, with russia. europe is the key power. and the way for these sanctions, uh, the us sections obviously, both and the not as significant as the sections of the rush i get from the rush as a couldn't be dependence and interdependence with, with europe. a defense thing of the frozen assets. europe has, as you know, most of the back to a, to up the russian frozen assets compared to the united states of america. and therefore, each one of these assets to be recovered by russia, one way or the other. europe will have to go along. but to be part of, of those conversations. and then finally, the interesting,
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the good trumpet nutrition is very keen on, on the new integration of, of, of ukraine. because they see that there's a way to shift the burden and give you credit burden quote and quote to the europe it when that gives us another big leverage saying, you know, we can proceed or we can even accelerate the accession process. but provided we obviously a part of this piece the 3rd month because if not, why, why would we make x ray fault if we call to even agree on the tense? well, thank you so much for joining us today. with those insights, i'm speaking to a peaceful chair of the ceo of a rasmussen global in ukraine. the battle of butcher happened in the early part of the war following russia's invasion and its attempt to take care of for a month of fierce fight. and ukraine took the town back from russia, and in doing so, uncovered evidence of russian war crimes. the war and bottles like those of torn families of pars, bought, have given some great resolve to defend their country. and when the war
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they call themselves the witches of boucher an unofficial monica known to a mystic sisterhood, a loose job because we are working in the blue chomsky districts, which is because old women which is these women a part of a nearly old female volunteer defense unit trying to shoot down russian drones in the suburbs with a live suburbs of boucher and r, p on the outskirts of keys. these areas were unknown to most outside ukraine before the war, but anal, synonymous with some of the worst atrocities committed by russian troops in the days of the invasion. the women of this unit lives through it and survive. because in those nice boots, each of us here has experience something in our lives, special number of something that the war took from us. something that cannot be so
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given to me, that's why this united soul of sue free of off the training ground, tatiana wilkes's, through those terrifying days in 2022 russian soldiers stormed into opinion like february on their way to take keys or to push them all in the system, this is way the 1st bass will began to disappear. this is after they brought the column or something, the shopping seemed to look like this. you can see it clearly here, here to the service of the difference. i don't know how to check off this building has been a face of the russians. montgomery, tatiana, as husband alexander, enlisted as part of the local territorial defense, says these are residents of the city of f and 2 chairs from ordinary residents, not military you. but these of volunteers who took up so on the 1st day of the full scale invasion and stood up to defend keith and ukraine. and general fitz yana and
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her children hate in a nearby bomb shelter with thousands of their neighbors. as the fighting raged above ground. i was told that i was hoping to follow up with the yellow gashes, which was my husband's train. he helped the field is special to he was one of the fish guys who made the russians on the approach of to move in a week of fighting on exam the made it back to the bomb shelter to beg them to leave it. then he said, john, yet please let us take the children away. i see that i don't want to, i won't go without you. he replied, you and i have different tasks. your task is to say, this is one of those as well. this is all i have left, but let the silver portraits military badges and the very fragments that killed him live. but this will be, you know, it somehow gives me strength fully. and there are a moments when you give out them things that said, i can't do it anymore. and then i look at those fragments and i think now i can still do. and instead of grieving alone,
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tatiana has chosen active resistance more and more time we oil change. we're trying to adapt to the realities of life and the realities out that we have a war. that's why we take out pounds. what the. so tiana and others and how unit survival has managed adapting to the reality. one where they've had to take on roles they never imagined. yeah, i've thought this, i have lost my entire family and i have no when lift and ukraine glee up was when i came here, i found my family. for me, this is really very important because it wasn't because the person cannot exist alone. what or not protecting, not only the country, but also each other. alexandra and my future focus head of the kids based center for civil liberties which documents alleged russian war crimes. i asked her how she was feeling on this anniversary of russia's full scale invasion
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of ukraine. it's very difficult to be in the lower school or for 3 years about we have no other choice. would you open this face? there is no, you create a new nation, there is no ukraine. your language, there is no ukrainian culture for 11 years. so we have been to combine 2, how this works, converted to an horrible practice when the russian troops, physically exterminate people in, okay, by territory. so many years journalist children via terse environmental as teachers, any of these people community. so we have no other choice because if this stuff resistant, the russian oppression will cease to exist. and part of the work that you do is documenting what has been going on in ukraine today. how difficult of a task is it to keep this evidence safe, specially use this for crime, so the messa, so for fear it's instrument which russia use in order to break people
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a resistance and you decide to country. and that's why we're faced with a nervous monitors, crimes, but because we're leasing digital era, which a lot of the digital instruments that we have for coming to moment probably the most to commend you, tore into human history. on late in all the dr. base we have more than a to run, so i was on chip is also for crimes. so with all of this information, so the next step is actually getting it before a court. what would you say? the biggest challenges are in bringing those who have been involved in violating international law to injustice. i think the biggest challenge is leadership and responsibility. because the result, the risk politics and the risk get. and we observed that to after 3 years of large scale war countries start discussing how to create a special to the question, which has to be done immediately after our skilled work starts it. and what is that
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delay there? oh, oh, no dollar to this tv. no, because uh 1st this tv now has to get fiber to persecute which you and overcome you need to reach which interests acquainted international. and this is a question probably 1st, because some countries was 2 things that they can make a deal and uh, to compromise is aggressor. now, you personally have been advocating for russian president vladimir putin to be tried for war crimes. do you think that is the most likely avenue that it could happen? and how realistic is it its own for congress moment? taken into account old political developments. we have a fabulous chance about who doesn't mean that people who don't have such a chance tomorrow. international crimes has no statute of limitations and the
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history of human kind convince and go through that. so dictate, introduce him collapsed and then leaders who sees themselves on touchable, appears down to the court. now i understand you also have been involved in working with people high displaced in ukraine. how challenging will it be to support them when the war does come to an end? it's a huge problem because spend our skills were star to, to every 2nd longer in your credit or supervisor to, to and this is a huge strength of just for human for interview. can you imagine that you have left everson, which you have which you earn during your own life and go somewhere only res, the documents and is your beloved ones always all the time. you security result i need guarantee. so it's, it's really research program and probably i will use this opportunity to,
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to express my sincere gratitude to people from other countries provides valuable that will come to your opinions actually just a majority of them went on to return home. the problem is to be security because there is no safe place in your grade where it can hide from russians or kids. thank you so much for joining us today on dw, we've been speaking to alexandra, my field trip with the center for civil liberties. thank you. and we can bring you up to speed now with some other world news headlines. turkeys president, wretch, up tire. 31 has offered to host possible talks on ending the war and ukraine. he's been meeting the russian foreign minister survey life problems we'll see are the one says encore. we'll be happy to help mediate any negotiations between moscow and do i need the ball a hi. one's coast guard has detained a cargo ship with 8 chinese crew members. after a nearby under c, telecom cables is disconnected. authorities say they're investigating whether the
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cut was intentional. taiwan has reported 5 cases of c cable man malfunctions so far it just this year. at least 3 people have died and 6 been seriously injured after a bridge collapse to the highway construction site. south of south korea is capital sol. local media reports say 5 steel support structures collapsed one after another . during construction operations, rescue teams are searching for one person. the police be buried under the russell and south for his austin, president hughes. so if y'all is facing his final impeachment, hearing as judges, consider whether to formally remove him from office over his martial wall declaration. the former leader has been behind, far since last month on separate insurrection charges for which he could face life imprisonment to democratic republic of congo, where rare mineral reserves are the source of fierce fighting. the m $23.00 revel
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group has already captured several major cities in the east of the country. neighboring lawanda denies obligations, but it is supporting the rebel forces. as the united nations calls for a cease fire, the dark eas, prime minister says 7000 lives have been lost in the conflict since january the m. 23 rebels. and because the latest city they conquered, they now have thousands of new recruits. the rebels, quick advance has left an estimated 7000 people dead. many bear with the mass graves and driven hundreds of thousands from the homes. the congolese government and the united nations labor one different bucking the rebels, including with thousands of soldiers. i am 23, said it's fighting to protect people. everyone dissent the totes. the minority the d. c also accuses were one, the of using m $23.00 to look to minerals,
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including the red men, the role called tom, combining every, as the rebels have captured other countries of also gotten involved as well. well, m 23 has captured government and the copy one condos, baldor with rolanda. you've done the run day, a bucking different militias. both countries of also send the troops into congo to support the government. the united nations as a stabilize ation mission. calling from anesco in congo. hey, monique, to joe, the cole, forward in the media, the ceasefire. and then 2 whole cities with that, what's called addition by the antenna is tree causes meaning 3 actions or 2 new to this, the dies is still in democratic republic of congo and swipe then we just know security record on the one the to and you. so for to the $23.00 and to respect the city. so usually with the gritty of the d oxy. in line we zip commitments made
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in which a, ne, for fixes the congolese p. m. well, and thought the thing to also comes from other militias allied with the m $23.00 under london troops. seneca ebc, you know, the d r. c is a country that has 9 neighbors to invest any security disturbance. any disturbance of the piece in the d. r c can impact the other countries and not just in terms of displacing people but also because of all the arm groups that are bringing up, asking me, keep in. c the things you for the d. c and it's neighbors is that to the conflict escalates into a broader regional craig safe with the people caught in the middle of the vatican's as po france as remains in critical condition, but is showing signs of slight improvement. the 88 year old pontiff has been battling pneumonia in both loans at a hospital in rome for over 10 days. and his condition has been worrying millions
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of catholics around the world to dump his jack park, travel to rome to meet some of them. a quiet prya for the pope stopped you a form of hope jump, pull. the 2nd has become the sense of attribute as well, which is in pres for pope francis. he's been in the hospital behind since february the 14. you seem to see what the total of 3 year he means a lot for christians and for every one of the cycles, he won salvation that for all people and for nature i don't see it. is it a someone who truly wants the salvation of all of god's work and creation? know, could you afraid the don't like it is you? many people come here to spend a moment praying for the pope the pope is known to still be in a critical condition here in the hospital and while people continue to arrive to pray for him, his health condition is of serious concern for the operations of the vatican 2025
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is a jubilee. yeah. that's a special yeah. if the catholics to observe sins clear debts and find forgiveness over 30000000 people are expected to come to room to make a pilgrimage. which culminated symbol, king of this pause to the holy doors of the vatican. so many people who's been coming to run them over the past few days, this moment has been used to reflect on what this pope means for the church. i just think he is such a people who, you know, of really trying to accept all people is a different kind of mentality. this is both is very modern and stay together today for today people, etc. and i to faithful continue to praise to the pope inside the hospital to recover well, that is your news updates and all for me. for now, i'm sorry,
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richardson and berlin. thank you so much for joining us. the
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