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so all right, that suits you up today to i'll have the, well, the use of the top of the hour based on the w a documentary, looking at the e, you bought a agency from tax and whether it can clean up some good people with their lives. to make this documentary and smuggle the footage out of the country. a ron inside the protest movement. to all the people sizing the raisins, despotism. faces of angus stops. march 19th on t w. the february 19th 2024 on the mediterranean sea,
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between turkey and greece. an inflatable boat carrying migrants is confronted by the greek coast guard and forced to turn back. grab his stick, crab, his dick. the in the background. a boat that's been deployed by the use border protection agency front techs these kinds of encounters shouldn't be happening anymore. the use external borders are patrolled from here. our reporters are at front techs in warsaw. the border protection agency has been placed by negative headlines for years from tex must defend itself against serious allegations on tax officials have been hiding insights on human rights violation as from texas. also
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accused of taking part in the legal push backs of refugees on the exterior borders . i need to have the former director has now become a far right member of the parliament. and from texas, new boss says he wants to change things for the better. so i'm responsible for the fact that my people don't participate in anything called ken front tech, successfully re brand itself to, to do anything concrete, to the sensitive office. to prevent this from happening, you can tell them stop this. the a briefing in the operations center information on the use, our borders is collected here in warsaw. soon, a front tech's aircraft will take off from the italian island of land producer to patrol the mediterranean and transmit live footage back to base on the left. it's alessandro zakiria,
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the team leader. he served in the italian police for around 30 years, whether it is good. so we are expecting many side of things. and we have the already 4 events ongoing, which we detecting on the previous slide. and we were to go on the targets to update, to make an update and assess the situation, but event and target, you mean refugee boats? are you looking for migrant books? after about 10 minutes on the pilot spot, a boat in the water around 60 passengers are on board the the new one. you guys the lessons are making assessments on
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the people on board for you and see if it's approved or not. we check if the both these are the rates or is even if it's saying we check a also if they have great length of life list some information on like uh about the people on board of course. and maybe now he's asking if the some of the possible both in the vicinity in order to get the closer and save them in this case, what makes you decide that they have to be saved. and then you could just say, okay, with it every, every, both of them by then needs to be saved because they are usually a saying with, you know, this both are not so sure. not so safe. you can see the solar crowded and it's very low on, on bow. what there is very close to the so obviously they need to be safe.
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but it's not that simple. national authorities located in their respective countries are the ones who ultimately decide what happens to a boat that gets blocked. do you kind of decide what to do? so if the migrant should be saved or brought back to another country or whatever? no, no, no, no, it's not our decision. okay, so this is a saturday is provided to the member states. so what do we are doing? getting these at home when it comes to and surveillance activities. he's done up on request of the member states, but we are not in charge of classifying events or of their response. so front text is something like a service provider for the e u member states. let's take a brief look at its history. and 2004 front techs was founded as a small e u agency, with a few staff and a modest budget. it was originally intended to support the border patrols of member
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states with its expertise. then came 2015, the received 1300000 applications for asylum, nearly all of them through unofficial channels. since then, there's only one thing european policy makers have been able to agree on. regarding migration is from tech support to be strengthened with even more fun tech support. and also that's why it's important to strengthen from text. and you get me to expand from text even more from takes is the instrument from, from tex with help from, from tex. policy makers wanted to look tough on border protection, pouring more and more money into the agency over the years. since it's the establishment, the annual front ex budget has increased from 6000000 euros to more than 900000000 . images of another boat arrive at the operation center in warsaw. most of these migrants arrived to the you via the route across the central mediterranean, by way of north africa, heading for italy. in 2023 alone,
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front tex recorded more than 150000 unauthorized entries by this root. can we have a picture? picture as we're trying to to understand if it's a new one, it's one of the both we already detecting the morning compare we need to compare, but sometimes it's not easy. it's, it looks the same that we picture i've got already detected in the morning. 1445, so we're going to do an update to the sizing that we already made this morning. best maritime refugee route to europe is known as one of the deadliest in the world . according to the you and refugee agency, more than 4000 people either died or went missing, attempting the journey and 2023. in the last decade, around 29000 people have died or disappeared. if you witnessed tragedies,
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famous unfortunately, yes, we have to deal with this kind of situation. and that's not always easy, because sometimes you see also kids on the boards and it's not easy to lift them in the center of the see i'm just go home and do like everything is it's okay. you're always thinking about that and maybe the, the off, the, when you come at work a you, the 1st thing you do is checking well, what is the situation with the, with the both that you left to the day before and have you witness like a drowning uh yeah, it happened,
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it happened. it's obviously it's not easy about the you have to focus to what you can do about what you can do. and if i can save time lives, i need to work on that day, the plane spent around 3 and a half hours in the air. alessandro asks about the 1st boat, the one that the pilot sighted shortly after the patrol began. do we have any information about it? not yet. okay. yeah, so we don't have the image in information. yes. please information. let's use the form on the 31, right. all right. it has been risk it from uh you tell him uh, close to god. so this is the process to photography for yes. and now we consider this event close because they have been rescued
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from text is facing a major challenge. on the one hand, it's supposed to prevent unregulated migration, well rescuing and safeguarding the basic rights of people in distress, etc. but the number of unregulated entries is still high and people's basic rights hasn't always been upheld serious allegations as misconduct by the agency. do you have a pen? can you board and protection agency from texas working more closely with sketchy libby and coast guard officials than previously known this is the police of gold pushed banks are legal or but according to an international research study in c d. u for the agency or from tech support. he's also involved, or at least aware of this one confirmed yet in recent years there has been multiple reports of front x being involved in human
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rights violations. usually nobody at the agency would talk about how front x covered up their involvement, but we found someone who will i'm going to have some things here for me. thank you. rear admiral kenneth. nina says he spent nearly 40 years in the swedish coast guard. he was also one of the officers responsible for sweden's international missions for several years. on several occasions, he even commanded swedish cruise operating on behalf of front techs to patrol the external e u border around greece. that was the case in 2020. so i was sleeping in the pedals back in my hotel and the in the, the, quite early in the more length. around 5 o'clock, my phone rang, and the captain from the sweetest of petroleum boats called me and said that they
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were an incident with the migrants. the crew he led, found a boat, etc. they took this photograph. according to a front ex investigative report, the boat was in greek territory and therefore inside the, the front x crew contacted the great coast guard which arrived on the scene. the greek says they, we needed the for the north and that we should go there as fast as possible. so the greeks send front text away a short time later, the front x crews seized on their instruments that the greek vessel and the migrants boat are moving towards turkish waters. later in a front ex, internal investigation, the greek coast guard claimed that the migrants evaded police efforts and steered
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into turkish waters on their own. but rear admiral nina's doesn't believe that. he says what he saw broke the law. the problem is, it's a, it's not according to the human rights. uh, you should be able to have your case tested if you come to your p in country and it's all in this different operational pence. how we should act and what you to happened. and we can't, we can't do this actually, according to the lowest and regulations. that is stated. the people in distress said, see, must be rescued and sending back anyone already and e, you territory before they can claim asylum is almost always a legal. this is known as the full mall and it's a direct violation of the geneva refugee convention of 1951. a regulation
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established after world war 2, around $900.00 jewish refugees fled nazi germany, a board, a ship called the st. louis. but many countries refused to take them. they were forced to return to europe. many of them were killed in the whole the cost the this principle is enshrined in international law with very few exceptions. one being when a border is breached by force. otherwise, refugees have a right to have their asylum claims reviewed. so from the captain and the crew, they weren't quite upset with this because they saw what happened and it was quite far in the greek territory. him so and, and the other as catholic, pushed back to we could say any legal pushback would qualify as we have former name
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as wanted to report the incident he went to disappear years upfront tex, an a, a immediately reacted very negative. produce the information and started to say that it could be a problem for me if i did this and i said, okay, what kind of a problem are we talking about? and then instead of kind of this will have some consequences for you. if you do this immediately off to this, the, the boat that's we didn't have we to cruise. they were sent to the other side of the keels and to petrol as most the night times. and it's much how the wind and waves on the other side. and absolutely no migrants. i think we all felt that it was the kind of a punishment according to an internal investigation front, ex officials later dispute at the report. the suppression for tenant name is the
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incident. as a matter of principle, all of this for life ought to be always decreasing the safe depth. see, and we would never do that. we should be there and try to help out and make sure that we have a controlled immigration and make sure that people are safe in them. yes, i think you should always stand up for what you think is right. and then i feel like if i don't do that, how should i look myself in the middle of the next day? what name is described has been common practice that front text for years. an internal report by the use anti fraud office. all last was published in various media outlets. backing him up. officials at law say it's been proven that front text management committed, gross misconduct, and other irregularities. they also say that front x management obstructed its own
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border guards from fulfilling their own responsibilities in particular to ensure their respect for fundamental rights as enshrined in the charter of human rights. the. we have an appointment with the main target of the heinous allegations. detailed in the report, the former head of front tex i would say liberty has come with suitcases yet. it's the end of april and election campaigning has just begun. here he comes after the allegations that police may show he resigned. now he's running for a seat in the you parliament for francis far right. national rally party, just for the robot. hello. hello. did you have a good trip? yeah, yes. i had a good trip. we're in pep in your right. is this the 1st day of campaigning in the region?
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ok. lisa lee was born in l size and grew up near the german border. the deputy mayor of popping out as picking him up. it's campaign time in the u. holes in many countries already show there's been a rise in support for the extreme right. especially in france. i'm pretty sure that i'm really impressed that you can feel the momentum. i believe differential ready. i've had one. i opened a though they may be both sides. now i'd say we're almost there. here in the south of france, the national riley already has the majority in many places in perry. now to surveys reveal that migration is one of the most important issues for many french voters. and it is the issue for the far right, pretty much everywhere. so long oh,
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ballpark. as long as europe has no barricades against millions of illegal migrants, germany must act on its own thoughts. land that tundra neglect to a non regulated mass. emigrate, sions. worse and security in our country look big again now. that's why we reject my separation. maybe new legal math integration be you think there was a return ticket and mass deportations for all illegal immigrants. 11 meant the former front text boss introduces himself to the party base. he visits the mayor of pepin you, who is also a member of the national riley, as opposed to mr. leisure range on the face to me you missed it of us like oh, thank you for the reception. welcome to pub in your my wife. hello. nice to meet you. other members of the national riley are here as well.
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last comes on me. does your political role now allow you to share what you believe to be right and what you couldn't say when you were the boss of from tex, cause a day or by your phone function. now, when i was an official, i had reservations and couldn't speak freely, i was ordered to enforce a political stance that was on rights and come with them all they do. mooney? well, i certainly try to change that until the time the agency is what it is. the rhetoric is supposed to be with as roles aboard and coast god outfits that supports e u. member states of concerning the quote, the vicar boy and you saw him on a pool. i admit that's why i voted for money left hand in the 2022 presidential elections week on the line. oh, of course i didn't say that when i was director of from texas. i liked all different things we had a longer conversation with leisure of a. what did you say about you investigations alleging he concealed and collaborated
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with greek authorities to commit to human rights violations? the idea is how do you react to this accusation in civil it's 5000. francis a in february 2020 uh recall authority is officially informed me. the greek national security was on the threat not to not as these are all these events at the drum and this that's why i cooperated closely with the grateful sandwiches and getting the horizon. and so i'm gonna get all i just want to play certainly is referring to one months in 2020 back then the turkish president opened the borders to greece and thousands crossed over greece suspended new asylum applications for one month. and that's with an after 12. if that's have been arranged in agreement with us and it's okay, so to speak of the new site forensics approved
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a new set together. okay. we'll send the people back listed as all the other items that we didn't agree on. all the details at the home. we agreed on the legal framework and the highest the document interception was possible move, which is with these 2 options long in a little bit. there's an interest that i will send back and divide the rest the order or into set them a note to find the people on the boat. you're not allowed to enter it and they sign the highest lease of he said that as front ex boss t and the greek officials agreed to send migrants back, which denied them the opportunity to submit an asylum claim as a result, right on the open sea, the e o investigation indicates that the month long state of emergency in february 2020 wasn't the only time this happened about may. it's incomplete, and that's the, let's look at this specific case now, which we've seen time and again, increase the boats of discovered and they, well,
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there are various reports throughout. these are legal push, bottom design. so these people are being driven back. that's what happens. so then, well that's more like taking the lower into your on that try to get it over to the vin. yeah. so i can get effects and these appears on them. so if we rescuing these people, that means we're bringing them back to work as a deal. and uh, the nice thing and i will page and maybe they'll stay in a european reception center in north africa. lived wouldn't dot. we don't have that cases reviewed in system building. the able visa me, let's say the member states of the you will assess mindset whether these people really need protection and that is what's that their interest during our conversation. so please place on the did not suggest the law should be broken. instead, he proposed that asylum applications should be carried out at european conflicts abroad. that sounds good, but for years it's been clear that implementation isn't realistic. in april 2024
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to non governmental organizations filed criminal complaints against police. felicia the the n g o is accused him of abetting crimes against humanity on account of his involvement in pushing back asylum seekers. it's not clear if the case will go to trial. according to the you anti fraud agency investigations have not led to any professional or criminal consequences. so far campaigning and basie are representatives from the national riley together with police. officials are holding a meeting during all these appearances fed police laser se recounts and a legend meeting with a commissioner ilia johansson in which he informed her of delays in arming from tex . good month to maneuver isn't fit, punchy, interrupted man, said, see that, don't, don't worry. it doesn't matter if the light to provide weapons and uniforms don't
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for it. so it's all right, you don't need them. okay, let me go. so it looks like you're, you to say that's good enough to do. your job is to collect the migrants and welcome time. remote europe is aging and we've got a plan to support the population. that is whether you like it or not, you've got to take them in the unit, you don't need uniforms or firearms to do that because they coming out of love bomb . we don't know if this conversation really happened. a spokeswoman for the commissioner said their policy is not to comment on these kinds of statements. here . liza adopts the narrative of the great replacement theory was classified by german constitutional experts. as a far right conspiracy very, don't say could i have more input? it's clearly an immigration policy meant to replace your opinions and their own territory. someone else doing well and to create a major birth plans, but i still don't get time to replace the culture. is that the only 3 d b less most viewed? you know, i wanted to say that, but i didn't take the time is from tex,
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director at the time is good. i told myself, you know, keep your mouth, johnson, because otherwise there will be trouble is if i said the narrative that white people are being deliberately replaced by migrants is being spread by the extreme right around the world. but when asked leesha as he denies pandering to far right, ideology, ah, i don't kind of you wow, that's 12 there are 7 weeks until the you parliamentary elections. because this policy line is front tech's director wasn't successful. he now intends to push through where for more, politically when to the current french director would consider that and then legal push back. if someone upsize for an asylum claim and it's rejected, isn't that because a lot is this all kind of hog at this? put it, like i said, it's a question of political will. what additional the call certain aspects of the law can emphasize base for political reasons with one and i thought it would,
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i think what's missing now, this is the political will at the e u level of waving the laser as he is essentially saying that there should be less emphasis on human rights and the political will to make this change should begin at the you level, which is what he is running for now the finland is also taking a tougher approach. here the government wants to take things a step further. front tech's invited us to the finish russian border. finland is in the spotlight because the country shares a border with russia that is more than 1300 kilometers long. and december 2023. russia deliberately brought asylum seekers to the border. some were on bicycles. moscow was putting pressure on the using migration as a weapon, a practice referred to by the you as hybrid warfare. finland closed its borders.
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since then crossing into the country here has been impossible. we are in the restricted area from texas proud that it has deployed 50 troops to finland and just to few days on the visiting front text, deputy director says that having front x on the border also sends a clear message. is this a managed? could that be honest, it's important to me that we show a european boda and so it can be secured with european forces in class because they shop about russia is just a few meters away. since the fins closed the border, everything here has been quiet. as the result of this, i make this a call those the situation that the seems, the foreclosure it has to be. now in place that the last, since then we have not had such a creation flow at all. but in the end,
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what does that mean for your pin law and for the right to asylum finish problem and has even passed the law that legalizes with a full month, even if someone requests asylum. the finished draft law openly states that this violates international law. the law and even its own constitution, the front texas image was in ruins after the laser, he era the new director promised to respect basic rights as soon as he was appointed. so i'm responsible for the fact that my people don't participate in anything called a push back, but i think that that is up from the care. he's made a big promise. front tax will no longer take part in push backs and front techs is going to change the
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one year after this promise. the new boss reported success and says, i mean office obviously is no. i repeat, no reports on misbehavior from context office. he emphasized that since he's been in this role, there have been no reports of misconduct. but is that true? the norwegian and g o. a jan boat report, shared several videos taken in early 2024. the search of the defective thing. this was good. the grey head around 25 people. many of them women and children are sitting in
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a black inflatable boat. they've encountered other boats and are calling for help. please do you need your help? have the we wanted to know what exactly happened here and who operated the to ship that the refugees were asking for help. we analyzed the videos with help from experts, with the research agency for ends as we cross checked them with geographic and weather data. according to our research, the 1st incident took place on february 19th, 2024. the people in the boat sent the norwegian and g o their location using a what's up message from greek, territorial waters, parenthesis check this again by conducting a visual comparison of the mountain ranges in the video with the real landscape. they were able to determine the location more precisely. everything indicated,
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the boat was in greek waters. the people on board had a right to claim asylum according to a handbook in our possession frontage. the officials are also required to proactively inform the asylum seekers of their rights. but it looks like the people here were probably towed back into turkish waters. we don't have any videos to prove this. nevertheless, the inflatable boat later showed up on the same day and video is made by the turkish coast guard, apparently with the same people on board. for example, this child is wearing a distinctive hat on the guinea. then with the turkish coast guard, it's the same with this boy. first,
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he's on the migrant boat. then he's being rescued. this man contacted the norwegian angio from the vote. we called his cellphone number journalist from the air d t v studio and is temple of met him in an empty house. he is from afghanistan and is hiding with his wife and 3 children. the turkish authorities wanted to port him back to afghanistan. he doesn't want us to show his or his family space this or to use his real name testimony, escape the metrics. hold on. i gotta, i'm very afraid that i might be the only one day posted for a while. my family stays here for going in the now i wouldn't survive in afghanistan, so i'm closing down the no, no. we speak with him. his cousin and his wife. all 3 say they were forced back into turkish waters on that day in february 2024.
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which developed mental health problems because of all the difficulties when we fled by boat. isn't that a situation on the water was horrifying. i was so shocked the children cried so much. the end of it was terrible. when asked, the greek government flatly denied carrying out illegal push backs. but there are numerous reports including from u. n. organizations indicating that greece has been carrying out violent push backs for years. and where did the 2 boats that initially intercepted them come from? on the larger boat, we see the number 5 to 4 parenthesis searched in greece and founded in march and a port in the last post boat, $5.00 to $4.00, bearing the flag of the bulgarian coast guard, paid for by the
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e. u and working for front techs we also see a small inflatable boat on the ship, presumably the digging. it's also part of the bulgarian crew working for front techs the them so front. tx was there and front tech's didn't bring the migrants to safety despite their cries for help. according to our research front techs also failed to report the incident we wanted to know what the new boss had to say. he had promised a fresh start the ones that we showed hon. slaten videos of this case. and another incident from january 25th 2024. the 2nd case also involves
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a full rubber boat on its way degrees. this time there is footage, showing the legend pushed back. the masked man chasing a boat full of migrants, threatening them with stick to the crab. grab his stick. the boat is flying, the you flag, the characters o s 800 are visible abbreviation for the greek coast guard. the parenthesis was also able to identify the ship in the background. it belongs to the lab fee and coast guard, and his own emission for fred tex. this rubber boat was also later picked up in turkey and confirmed by local authorities. on sleigh tens told us from tex,
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takes these cases very seriously. the agency is fundamental rights commissioner, has started an internal investigation. if the front techs was there, he said, that's a problem. if we are there, we are implicated or we are involved in a way even without doing something, because there's also a question, okay, good, we should be a present that it's always helpful. so we have for, if we have a risk responsibility, even if you're not the perpetrator, so it's either or the electric perpetrator ourselves. we have is the responsibility because again, we audio p and bordering cause good agency. we uphold your opinion values. we are told you are being law, i understand completely. i understand you that you want your offices to kind of step in if, if they see that the greeks are performing and send them into rights violation, you want them to prevent that if possible. and again, let's be realistic if you're 100 meters away. uh yeah, if you're coming to means of communication, i want him to do something indeed, not just sit back and relax because he is from another country do with things that
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the new director says that he wants his people to intervene. but apparently they didn't with what is he doing about that? did you do anything concrete today since you took office to prevent this from happening? because it's, this is not the case. of course, those reports all the time about greek and coast guard performing push breaks. and so they do kind of tell them stop this. no, but yeah, i told them, but the thing is preventing it. i cannot because that's not realistic. what i can do is to build a common understanding, but even more than that, i come in and share value that we in europe have to uphold european values wells, protecting the borders. and because it all starts with protecting board us and we have a junk responsibility, that means that feedback from, from outside is, is important. we have to acknowledge that the amount of control is with the member state. the member state is in charge of the operations. and member states won't
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allow their sovereignty to be stripped so front, tx doesn't have that much power on the border. and in case of doubt, they can be sent away. can front text actually change how migrants are treated at the border? a case from the summer of 2023 shows just how powerless front x actually is. this footage arrived at the operation center from a front text aircraft. july 13th, 2023. 9 47 am. a friend tex aircraft is filming this ship in the greek rescue. so the boat is crowded with nearly $750.00 people on board. from tex has also been informed that there are dead children on the vessel. in hindsight, it's a clear emergency. but what confront tx, do they fly over the ship and inform the greek coast guard?
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the an internal front tax report that we obtained shows from tex, offered greek authorities support several times, but they did not respond. instead, greg officials sent front techs a way to handle another case. in the end, the boat sank, and at least $500.00 people died. the front x director told us the agency did not have any rescue workers on the water, and greece was in charge of the operation. now they're waiting for the results of the greek investigation. there are 2 trials underway in the maritime court in periods. but according to our research, there have never been consequences worked, push backs by the greek coast guard or police difference. when will latency take action? we have has to assess all these, let's say,
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contributions we deliver. and indeed, we have to delancy and balance this with alleged push backs. and at the end, i might arrive at the conclusion that there's not no longer incredible corporation possible and have not arrived at this point yet. but we have to assess his frequency and all the time. so what does that all mean? has front techs changed the 2 cases. we researched show the new front tech's director, apparently cannot keep his promise. push backs are still happening. and front tech's seems to be involved. but our interview with him shows that he is also calling for a new approach. and that's not easy to do when front x is the service provider. well, countries like greece actually controlled the operations it's
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the day of the european elections. we are the national riley party in paris. the party emerges with decisive victories and police nations. he becomes a member of the parliament. the former front text official will now use his position in the parliament to put pressure on front tx of the politic uh, by the said, the politicians because they've been elected, they must assign to the district and i will call them in time. we will have many political allies in the european parliament. that's the see, it looks like many governments in europe and want the same thing to slash. what does that mean for the future? upfront tx, the current leadership has promised to offer more protection for basic human rights,
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