it has been a few months to master f16 fighters, master modern abrams tanks or leopards. here are many other types of weapons that because we have to say that ukraine will be defeated. but after that, we have to become a military power with technologies so that the military-industrial complex of ukraine together with western companies in the best companies and we could restore the country not only buildings but also talk about innovations in technology joint ventures and in particular the military-industrial complex ms. hanna a is it possible to have some kind of reaction or talk developed on russia's actions in transnistria , the current one. at today's meeting in germany, can there be any reaction from these countries, or can only moldova

react to it? aggression and in general, do you know that transnistria was provoked already about 30 years ago, in general, when we talk about the historic victory of ukraine over muscovy over russian aggression, the aggressor state, we open up an opportunity for moldova and georgia and for belarus, where the people are fighting against the lukashenka dictator. and that is why we must also explain to the collective west that by arming ukraine with modern weapons, we will have the opportunity not only to restore the territorial integrity and sovereignty of ukraine within the internationally recognized borders, but we are giving a chance to other neighbors who they also experienced a hybrid war, even though they have occupied territories , toxic propaganda is being conducted there, and this opens up a broader perspective for our neighbors, even without the participation of

the west, who must also understand that this is part and parcel of of their strategies for countering authoritarianism, it is also impossible to do. thank you, mrs. hanno hanna hopko, foreign policy expert, they spoke in particular about today's meeting at the rammstein base. thank you, ani gubko , let's go further in italy. i also wanted to hear your assessment and your comments on this meeting, which is called historic and is being held in germany , of representatives of the heads of the 40th defense department countries, what can we expect from this, in your opinion, well, first of all, the systematization and installation of cooperation that is ukraine with the western world, this is the organization of certain logistical chains for the

transfer of weapons, ammunition, equipment to us, the exchange of information, communication, such the other and the second is, first of all, this interaction is the so- called combat protest, because we not only interact with the departments of these countries, but we are actually through their instructors, through their cooperation and assistance. we are already integrating into the space nato and the space of european collective security. in addition, this is not only a matter of europe, it is a global issue, it is a matter of the whole world, so such platforms are very important for ukraine to prove its position and get support even in ukraine, from which we least expected such the support of a and a, as practice shows, such communications on the sidelines of various summits

allow miracles to be done. foreign ministers of austria, alexander shallenberg, believe that ukraine should not be offered membership in the european union in june, the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine considers such statements to be strategically short-sighted as not in line with the interests of a united europe, because the vast majority of the population of the country, the founder of the european union, supports ukraine's membership in the european union . how do you explain these statements of the minister of foreign affairs of austria? that is, only austria makes such statements regarding ukraine - it is the opposition and hungary as well and of course that causes concern because these two countries can block maybe even someone else will join to block the promotion of ukraine providing actions candidate status or prospects for membership of the european union, it is very important to

work with the austrian political leadership, as far as i understand there is collective pressure on austria from our other partners in the european union and outside the european union, so i hope that when a direct decision on ukraine will be made vienna change your position and the same applies to budapest, at the same time in austria there are strong positions of skeptics regarding ukraine. austria takes such a policy of reconciliation and appeasement of the aggressor austrian politics have been repeatedly noticed in interaction with russian business circles and giving their own territory to the implementation of the activities of oligarchs in russia related to the putin regime, so it is not surprising that similar sentiments prevail in the leadership. but again, it is still not exhausted the entire instrument of pressure on vienna in this matter, both from the european commission and

from the side of france, e.e. poland and other countries e. members of the european union, the european commission is at least a consensus on this issue what ukraine has to get candidate status, now they have to work with the people in the country of the participants in order to remove all questions and as far as i know , vienna only has concerns about ukraine in relation to russia, but the level has questions of an economic and political nature and a question of migration policy in relation to ukraine, so we are also doing this homework we have to decide before the summits which will give us the status of a candidate scientist of the european union, and how do you evaluate our readiness and performance of this very homework because one story when in we are at war and we urgently submit this application, but the other story is that this is not just an application, it is a bunch of positions and according to which we have to meet

the standards of the european union in all areas, as quickly as we can cope with this assimilation by carrying out all to the standards and now to what extent we would meet, see austria is speaking now more as in the same statement of the minister of foreign affairs of austria it was about the fact that the countries of the balkans have come a long way to the status of members candidates for the membership of the european union and er this coming to the european community he er went through certain er homework on this country they completed them and it was not six months and it was to bring to the network regarding the fulfillment of the matrix of the acquisition of us e candidate status is nothing of the european union, of course there are certain works. but again, i would like to point out that ukraine is an

exception to the case. this is for those demands that can be put forward to moldova or georgia, which country also claims the status of candidates, this is the question related to the fact that we are directly involved in hostilities and the issue of procurement control, the issue of freedom of speech, the issue of human rights, issues of a logistical nature, issues related to the free movement of goods without a business climate, e-e issues related to migration policy provision of certain e-e obligations. in the current conditions, they cannot be fully implemented because there are hostilities at the front, and taking into account this e-e uniqueness of ukraine's position, the european union has already declared through its leaders that they are ready to a certain extent to allow ukraine to complete

these homework tasks after the termination of the hot phase , because after the victory of ukraine, but there are things that we must clearly show, in particular, to remove corruption from the customs, for example, it is immediately obvious now not only to ukrainians who cross the border, but also to diplomats who show in ukraine these issues are related to the non-transparency of budget purchases and budget policy in general, these issues are related to kickbacks and various e-e corruption networks in large infrastructural projects and these issues should be in the back of your mind very easily under the noise war, we don't have tenders, we already have a lack of transparency, let's give our contractors quickly. of the administration reported that in the border region, the russian invaders are forcing women to scout the positions of the

armed forces of ukraine, taking their children from them and threatening them with massacre, these are the facts to whom we should shout in the civilized world that well, what the russians are doing in ukraine - it obviously does not fit into any of the unwritten rules assigned there, even military ones. and now , un secretary general antonio guterres visited moscow. yes, he also visited other countries there, and it seems that he it should be agreed that a humanitarian corridor from mariupol should be organized under the auspices of the un. the un is the organization that can now play at least some role and which should be contacted regarding such cases of gross violations of the rights of children and human beings. world and what is the situation invested in the security council and in general un structures

not only directly self-organization and in general with the bloc on top of human rights councils on human rights and with others, the way the un reacted to the crisis and the beginning of the war indicates that this institution has exhausted itself and the necessary e-e formation or a new or qualitative reform, the un itself, in the form of its bureaucracy , is not ready for such a process, it should be a collective decision of the leaders of the founders of the participating countries, after the usual exclusion of russia as a security concern and zoology in general for anti-human politics for not human waging war in ukraine, i do not believe that it will be possible to create a unitary corridor for the evacuation of civilians from mariupol. i do not believe in the ability of the un to act as a moderator or engage in mediation in the negotiation process to create

effective mechanisms for providing to help ukraine in this war to act as a peacemaker even that is, i do not see all the tools that would be in the hands of the leadership of the organization of the opening of nations or in general in this structure because in my opinion it is a helpless organization and without quality reform or repetition of the new one, we will not solve this issue." when

they call, they take the book of the movement of these countries, let’s rest the states at the end and these countries in the team have the potential to influence the processes to act as a moderator because we saw that rodogana was not bad tributaries of pripyat moved to istanbul and the first rounds of negotiations took place. therefore, it shows the availability of resources in third countries for an effective federation of negotiation process. i do not say now about the results of these negotiations, i say that they succeeded in organizing the negotiation process and this shows that the same china, the same

turkey and other countries have such potential, not a fire, neon has become a platform where an adventurous process can take place, and the third countries that have interests in this region. can we still place any hopes on the osce, which has been monitored in principle since the 14th year, but these reports did not always correspond to reality, but the other day and their representatives of this international organization the monitoring mission was captured by the militants there in the luhansk or donetsk region. hmm, the osce can still perform some important function for us. as far as i know, there are statements from the russian side about the impracticality of testing the osce observation mission, at the moment the osce office has canceled the contract or stopped the contract and the observers who worked in the smm observation mission therefore i also do not see in them the possibilities of political will to implement monitors of the new

situation or mediation is the only option for the osce - this is the analytical work of accompanying police actions or police missions in terms of gathering facts and evidence of war crimes committed by the russian federation on the territory of ukraine. here, the osce may have a certain role. but again, it is quite limited. but as a platform where negotiations or an observation mission, or even more so the peacekeepers, i talked about it. earlier there, starting from the 14th year, it is already a matter of this, not the osce, nor are you currently putting your hopes on the negotiation process, 62 days ago do you remember there, we had the first round, the second round , and now we are not observing any negotiation process, no dynamics, and in principle, whether something can be resolved on this front or not, i do not see

the possibility of achieving some kind of peace during the adventurous process, i struck during this the dynamics of military operations, we have entered a phase of military operations that does not foresee a quick peace, because i am upset about this, of course, it must happen. i know what is happening. consultations, negotiations in video formats, e.e. on the platforms, all those who wanted to be mediators are also trying to somehow find some points of contact, this applies not only to oligarch abramovich, but there are experts from representatives of international organizations , a lot of people who are ready to join, but at the moment i do not believe in the success of the barrier process, at least at this stage in military operations but any war ends with a treaty, including a treaty on the capitulation of the russian federation, so we will sign the treaty, but it will be a little later, how much later mr. vitaliyovych yaki

your forecasts are temporary, i am a pessimist, that is why i do not think that we will finish quickly, at least in the month of may, we will not celebrate the victory over russia parade, but any resource is finite. despite the lack of any dynamics there, the economic legacy of the russian federation is running out their human resources, the market, exactly, the weapons are stopped, the goals for you, the heavy production of military equipment, updating, modernization, even normally, decanning the old grads of the model of the 60-70s, they are no longer capable. therefore, this the resource is finite and sooner or later at least until the cold weather. i have such a suspicion that we will be able to get to the beginning of some effective negotiation process if the capitulation is given. thank you vitaliy kulyk, the director of the center for the study of civil society problems was our guest and will continue to join the conversations, our colleague is

a journalist, but he is from germany, oleksandr butenko, his name is oleksandra, can you hear me? i congratulate you. glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. and you are in germany, please update where exactly you are. and whether are you watching this meeting, which has already been christened historic, meaning the meeting of the ministers of defense of the 40th countries at the rammstein base? well, i am watching this meeting from munich, from the capital of bavaria . in europe, but accordingly, of course, we are all carefully watching what decisions will be made there today and whether they will be made at all, what you can see from munich, and about the progress of this meeting. how do you do you see it in general, here are your impressions and your forecasts, because you are questioning whether it will be

accepted at all. well, we are now questioning everything accordingly and because europe has been there for quite a long time, our more than 60th day of war, but europe has been spinning its flywheel for quite a long time, accordingly help, but in my pessimism there is also a lot of optimism, because until this sunday just within the so-called traffic light coalition , that is, the currently ruling coalition in munich, germany, according to the colors of the party which they are entering there only this sunday, in fact, after the pressure of the free parties of the free democrats and the greens, and they are joining the coalition, the social democratic party of germany, respectively, headed by olef scholz, nevertheless decided that it will be brought to the bundestag on thursday this thursday , the day after tomorrow, a decision will be made to

help the country and, accordingly, to supply weapons for ukraine, we should not forget that the kraus mafai concern, which is now ready to supply armored tanks or cheetah armored vehicles to ukraine it was a manufacturer and supplier of heavy heavy weapons during the second world war for the wehrmacht, and accordingly, of course , for the germans, it is a very painful issue to direct their tanks to the front again and, accordingly, shoot from them already on the russian side. here is the opinion accordingly, in germany it is changing very radically, already more than 50% of residents in germany are still in favor of

supplying ukraine with your weapons, unlike russia, politicians in germany report to by the voters and if the voters show their willingness. here i am in the session, well, more than half of the residents, respectively, show their willingness to supply these heavy weapons . i think that olafsholtz, despite the hesitation, very long hesitation. after all, in principle, these figures that you mentioned are convincing that already more than half of the germans are ready to supply weapons, so don't they connect directly, if from a factory that produced weapons for the wehrmacht, they shoot people again, and that money is the same as with which they buy oil in russia, so the germans, and they also go directly to weapons used to kill ukrainians so far, only ukrainians, but there may be the next denazification. all of europe, there are no such impositions. if they say that germany, like france, still accordingly

does not want to be a direct party to the war, that is, it does not want to take a direct part in military operations, but how is it happening events are taking place accordingly. now , around ukraine, ukraine has no other way out, everything is fine in europe, yes, because everything is fine, europe is somehow slipping into this funnel of the third war, god forbid, of course, but the great conflict today's statement by lavrov that they will shoot the esheloms with the corresponding help that will come from europe is also accordingly heard here well, of course, they react to it completely calmly, but they also hear those threats accordingly. here we go, let's see . at the very beginning of this war of russia against ukraine, this is what i think

, watching how he reacts now. what he says, and we all remember his speech a few days later, first, the invasion of russia ukraine about the language of the bundestag, where he said that under no circumstances can we allow russia to win this war. i think it is necessary to pay attention to these statements by the fascist, not to how it all happens. that is, this politician acquires political will during his career political responsibility yes, but at the same time he says that i absolutely do not see how a gas embargo would have ended this war and if putin i am now quoting olaf schulz the chancellor of germany if putin was open to economic arguments he would never i wouldn't have started this is madness eh, that is, the embargo says - no, that is, to give up russian oil and gas. germany well, there is no reason. it turns out that way, and eh, but we are all told by experts that without complete

isolation, without a complete rejection of russian gas and oil in it is impossible for the world to simply overthrow this economy and it is impossible to overthrow this monster, they will continue to kill. it seems to me that this is a bit of an outdated speech or a statement that we need this. remember the statement of the minister of foreign affairs, but not the obstacles by the end of this year, germany will stop any dependence on oil and gas from russia, because it is 40% of gas and more than 50% of oil from russia. this is treated accordingly, i repeat, after all, politicians in germany in germany report to pre-voters and what exactly do they not want to allow politicians in germany so that the german population accordingly suffers in the same way and accordingly, the way out of

this situation is to attract alternative sources it is already necessary to explain the income to the voters in them, the numbers in the payments may jump there, the numbers are already jumping if you look at the price tags for diesel and in general, the price of fuel in germany has doubled. so we have huge problems even for sunflower oil now in germany, but according to the population understand that this is somehow a payment for what is happening 600-800 km away from germany, yes, that is, germany in this case has become a little closer to ukraine, also because 10 years ago, ukraine is again after all, it was just the former republic of the soviet union and an inferior state in the imaginations of many politicians, so they want it. well, to me, it

seems appropriate and as far as i can understand what is happening at the top, but this is a huge compromise of huge compromises, especially in germany, which likes to analyze it, count it and put it in order everything is right on the shelves, this is a huge compromise between the desire to prevent victory, respectively, all over ukraine and, respectively, the problems that the government will have, and you yourself understand that this government came even before the war and all we have now is, in principle, the legacy of the more than 10-16-year rule of other parties in germany, yes. in other words, we should also understand this and not be quite so critical of this er, this coalition, which simply fell on just the same, these troubles, but on the other side of the former, respectively, the former ruling party of the christian democratic union together with the christian social union, on the contrary, now, as opposition labor, they put a lot of pressure on the coalition on the traffic light on this coalition, respectively

in order to supply heavy weapons, they were always from the very beginning for well, let's say during the war, when it became clear that ukraine without heavy weapons is european simply by the amount of meat. who are temporarily relocated to germany if you know in numbers how many it is how germany treats ukrainians more than 319,000 refugees have already arrived according to germany from ukraine during this time first he from february 24 they treat refugees accordingly, very well, very well, wherever possible, the germans offer their housing, but the ukrainians receive such unique 24th paragraph of this law, they can

work with it accordingly, that is, i am very, very big and since june according to the month, ukrainians will be almost equal to the unemployed in germany, that is, they will receive financial assistance and compensation, and that is, the germans, the germans, i will tell you very well , they accept them here. immediately at the border, but the same as the poles, the germans accept accordingly, well , germany is different, you should also understand this, and germany is different, er, i can only say what i see here, munich is in an accident, and i see very positive points that is, the reception of really europeans in a european country, what can ukrainians count on. what are the 319,000 e-e who are

temporarily forced to stay in germany? these are some employment benefits, financial assistance, well, since june, they are like ordinary german unemployed people . that is, to be paid, the financial aid is already going, but it will already be at the level of the law. that is, it is financial aid, it is the payment of housing, it is the payment of medical insurance - it is the right to work, what does the person have before this right? far from it everyone is here, respectively, and the refugees. we remember the influx of 2015, well, the wave of syrian migration at the beginning of the war there, and germany underestimated it, then i consider putin, at least according to the pictures that went on television yes, that is, we now see exactly that in us completely it was done to build the northern stream-2, unfortunately yes and who knew but but but and but we don't forget it is

closed because there we still have to evaluate according to the actions that take place in accordance with all the emotions of all the conversations and they are like that in general you know loves love to talk to please the voters, so it's normal, some politician will come out and say something in europe so that the voters don't like it. that's why the germans should be judged by their actions. in general, they are not so talkative in these matters, so it's better to say it quietly b for them, i think, but since such a corresponding wave has already risen that help is needed. and one more thing. do not forget that germany will not supply ukraine with new weapons, that is, immediately from the assembly line .