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readiness for peace is a farce; secondly, if they can not ensure, if they say that they are ready for peace, but simply cannot ensure it in the territory of the exit from mariupol, then how will they ensure a ceasefire throughout the territory of ukraine please tell me why. also, i am sure that russia's statements regarding peace negotiations or the desire for peace are fake. well, and thirdly, you and i are different from other countries , for whom all of russia's steps are now news. we have seen for 8 years how the termination happens fire from russia, how is the implementation of agreements from russia, and therefore without security guarantees from the countries of the world, there is no point in talking with russia about anything, you know, i recently spoke with my fellow parliamentarians from all over the world. i tell them to look at the window near the organization of ob' of the united nations. do you see there a
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line of world leaders who would like to take russia as a guarantor and be the guarantors of security that are so necessary now? guarantors without guarantees, putin will not fulfill his obligations and this any peace agreement will be a farce and a farce. and then we will run and demand its implementation from russia. i am absolutely sure that the solution to the issue is at the moment when at the moment when we win back our territories, eh well, how these guarantees and guarantors can look like, it is already difficult for us to imagine, after the guarantee there and the budapest memorandum , but today, in particular, maybe they will talk about in russia, how ready is the world for this according to your assessment? don’t get used to it, sorry, i think it’s still in the process and of
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course we would like all the countries to sign up to the oil and gas barge, but it now looks like an illusion, which country is it ? for example, germany will not be able to do it there in the next few months, and it is critical for us that this happens as soon as possible, so the minimum program is for countries to sign up to the intention to have a plan, for example, france is actually ready to have a plan in order to implement oil and gas embarka, we also expect this from germany, we also expect this from italy and other countries. this is a task that primarily concerns these countries, not only ukraine. every time i communicate with international partners from these countries, i say well . don't think about ukraine, think about yourself.
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there are less than 6 months left until the heating season. what are you counting on? putin will behave better in the fall, but the situation will be much worse, he will either raise prices or stop fulfilling agreements, or he will screw things up. your hands in one way or another, energy has always been a weapon for russia and it is futile to hope that something will change significantly now, there are no facts in the past that would give an opportunity to hope that the situation will be better in the future, and therefore it is critically important for the countries themselves now to jump off this russian oil needle yes, it is very painful, yes, it is unpleasant , but the situation will not improve for them, and therefore the question here is to convey information to them and convey to them very clearly this understanding, do you understand the world? he just
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the process that we went through a long time ago is still waking up and going through, so if at first i was very annoyed that people are still under the illusion that it is possible to agree with russia that they will fulfill these agreements, now i understand that this is a process in fact , it is very painful and, unfortunately, we pay for it with our lives, our soldiers, our people, but it happens, it happens for some countries faster, for some countries, it is slower, but it goes, if you see, look at the position of those or other countries now and then 2-3 weeks ago, you see that they are changing even in the same united states, in the same great britain, in france, in italy, in germany, after macron no longer needs to be used like that on two chairs before the elections i think that now the situation will change, we just need it to change much faster. it's just that
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the drama of life is also the fact that it arrives late , it arrives when the trouble is already here. she said that if russia will use gas despite the fact that it has always used gas as a weapon and terrorized everyone with the same weapon, but it won't last long for us here. so we have been at war for 8 years, and only today, april 26, in the center of kyiv , they began to dismantle something as a gift of friendship of peoples, the monument symbolized the reunification of ukraine with russia. the second cultural composition made of red granite will be dismantled later . well, i know. in sumy oblast, my relatives also stood there from the exit in the direction of kursk. i hope that this monument that marked russia's friendship with ukraine is no longer standing. kyiv and moscow
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, like brother and sister, we remember singing like this. but the war did not start in our country two months ago, it started 8 years ago, and these same sculptures, these same street names are there now they are already renaming en masse, why is this such a rhetorical question, it seems to me that we have always wanted to be like this, we always wanted to be democratic and we wanted to be the ones who, you know, want to satisfy all the participants and those who believe society and those who believe that it is necessary to preserve such a part of our past, now the time has come when you can speak very clearly and act very actively today's today's actions to dismantle the memorial of friendship reunification they are such a part of the great project which is registered by members of the e-e voice party in the kyiv city council and we will also register
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an additional draft law in the verkhovna rada on de-sovietization regarding de-russification of the so-called e-e we rename streets we dismantle monuments that uh, in essence they confirm about the friendship of peoples, what friendship is possible. they always considered us not a country. they always thought uh, that we shouldn't exist today . then we don't need monuments to this friendship. monuments to vatutin will be dismantled everywhere. and to many others, part of them will be transferred to the museum of communism, the other part will disappear forever. just like the illusions that we and the russian people could have some friendship which there is such a relationship, it was a very painful friendship. if that's the case, the psychotherapist gave you
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a different name, friendship comes with violence, it's called yes, but the russians presented it as friendship and are trying to present it, but look, with monuments, it's easier to tear them down, so it's better to gut them so that later they will decide to put them up again. but in the parliament, what to do with these monuments of russia's friendship with ukraine, which are called the fifth column and, in principle, they were the spokesmen of the russian world all these years, even 8 years of war in the east of ukraine, and i am talking about fraction yes upszh which has now been renamed in the parliament and it is now called the platform for life and peace , the deputies formed this platform. the deputy group was so new that it was formed. how do you feel about these repainting of the shoes and renaming of the essentially pro-russian deputies of ukraine, what to do with them , ms. hanna, we now have two systemic problems that
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will now be solved. i think it is very similar. this is the first ban of pro-russian parties and the work of pro-russian factions, the second ban of the moscow patriarchate, and if in matters of renaming or dismantling uh, we actually don’t meet any resistance, but in the matter of banning uh, the actions of pro -russian factions, you can see that things are going very slowly here. banning pro-russian factions i think that after the adoption of the law on banning the work of pro-russian parties, it will be possible through the court to take away the mandate from some of the deputies in the parliament who have absolutely accurate confirmation of their anti-ukrainian position, and they are currently working on it
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some people's deputies and soon such a proposal will be submitted to the verkhovna rada regarding the moscow patriarchate because it is extremely important, this is exactly the part where everyone understands everything, everyone sees everything, but for some reason actions do not take place, we submitted it as a fraction of the vote together with other opposition by factions of the draft law on the prohibition of the moscow patriarchate. unfortunately, it was not given the go-ahead, even the e-e committee has not considered it until now because the council of churches has a position. the parishes of the moscow patriarchate themselves came out and joined the ukrainian patriarchate and that supposedly such a bill will currently divide society, that is why we will work in a different way, we will now deprive the moscow patriarchate, which is absolutely clearly a pro-russian organization that works against the interests of ukraine, where
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are you going to open the news daily arrests a priest of the moscow patriarchate because he was either a spy or was a drug or just harm in ukraine well, we will deprive them of various benefits i am sure that this is not a division of society, the deprivation of the moscow patriarchate, ukrainian land, ukrainian property. i am sure here we will have unity, but we will be even ruslan stefanchuk, he is also convinced that the adoption of this draft law will split society, it can cause a split, it's just patriarchy, now society is splitting, it is trying to revive something that has been dead for a long time, it is faith that we may have something in common with russia, and this commonality may be something good. that is why we will now,
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despite the opposition that currently exists regarding the ban and work of pro-russian deputies and the ban on the work of the moscow patriarchate, we will act we will simply work with different but legal and er law-making methods so that it works, i agree with you, but isn't ruslan stefanchuk, the head of the verkhovna rada, aware of this, and you know two months after the verkhovna rada's work began during the war in our country politics started with consensus, that's why they already explained these statements by the reluctance of the deputies to consider and approve this was an initiative, in particular, of the european solidarity party, yes, and the former head of the institute of memory, yes, remind me of petrovich -e
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vyatrovych wrote about this. i remember exactly, and on the following day he wrote that the deputies did not support his initiative to postpone the celebration of may 9 to victory day, in fact with russia, and this date was set by stalin a on the right - in fact, germany capitulated on the eighth, and uh, he proposes to move away from this celebration on may 9 and move it to the eighth, and it should be a working day, because there is nothing to be happy about and there were a lot of people to sing songs, in fact, why don't the deputies have this understanding after all well, now everyone has seen through it, everyone has started renaming streets everywhere, even those who have been waiting. and why is there no understanding and desire in the parliament to bear at least mrs. hanna ? the initiative is supported by the party, the vote and the faction, the vote is supported. if it is brought to the hall in the committee, we will support it and vote if we had a representative of the monomajority.
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evgenia is on the phone. i'm not sure that there is an understanding that may 9 is really not the holiday that we have now that we have. it didn't even occur to anyone that we may have or remain some things that unite us all these things ended on february 24, they ended, well, we should forget about it if we are in the european union and we want to be there and this is our way, let's celebrate in the same way as the european union celebrates and not in the same way how does russia celebrate? i'm sure we have a huge number of cultural moments where we will need to make changes and i want the parliament to be ready for these changes
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. evgenia kravchuk should have been with us and we they were waiting for her. i'm still waiting, in fact, but the editors tell me that it's not yet. of course, i'm asking you very much to ask yourself about it. this is an important question that we want to ask and will definitely ask on our broadcasts. the noise of the war must be asked the right questions then you are included in the marathon and there are right channels and there are wrong channels and there are wrong channels that are excluded in general without warning in an illegal way e-e from digital broadcasting and this also contradicts all standards with with which we seem to want to go to the civilized world to the european union, give us weapons, protect us, we are normal, but we are a little out of control here. well, yes , mrs. hanna, in fact, the disconnection of the patriotic channels of direct espresso eh and the fifth was perceived absolutely negatively by our western
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partners and i now i do about 18 broadcasts of people , including on all american channels, and there it was used by our opponents as proof that ukraine is not a democracy . you have something going on with freedom of speech and i had to say that we have now turned off the channels, and we hope that this is a temporary solution that will be reviewed because democratic values are above all else for us, but let's face the truth, is this a temporary solution or for we really have democratic values above all else. this question is whether it is a conscious decision or an unconscious one, because well, i sincerely hope that someone just planted a pig in the president and there was no such instruction to turn off some channels because, well, every channel is now a weapon. there is an information army in the war, because the war is a
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hybrid one, which is absolutely fighting against our only enemy, i don't remember that the fifth direct or espresso fought against uh, i don't know the politics inside the country, i don't remember that at the beginning of the war we had er, it seems to me that everything is directed only to ensure that we all win this war as soon as possible. yes, i can clearly say for espresso that this is a channel that arose on the maidan and for eight years spoke precisely about the war and about russian aggression and war was not 2 months ago it started espresso it was constantly there and a year ago we were shouting about this already information from the western development in every broadcast. so maybe it's just inconvenient that it will be voiced now, but i was sincerely glad that when the war started that we at least we all united, we stopped representing political parties there, someone from which party, all of them were deputies of the people 's simple and local councils. and now we are already involved again, what is the war and political wars have started, or what , ms. kur, politics has returned, at least we are this
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we can see how and who is included in the central marathon, at least we can see it from the way the rada channel works, which does not broadcast the verkhovna rada meeting. until now, it seems to me that the channel called rada could who works for budget money should cover the activities of the supreme council and not something else, you know, i still hope once again that these are operational errors. i spoke with my colleague iryna gerashchenko from european solidarity, who is now specifically engaged in to find out who gave the order eh just to stop the work and access to the digital broadcasting of these three channels and why it works in such an unfair way and we sincerely hope that this is an operational error and rather a
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reason for the president than a political decision or well, you know, it's emotional, in fact fate works in any case in ukrainian society, fortunately it's impossible to do something so that no one finds out about it later, and justice did not prevail because of that. well, that was a very reckless decision. kira rudyk, i thank you for participation in our broadcast, a people's deputy of ukraine , the head of the party, the voice answered all our questions honestly. thank you for taking the time, and vera blanche should be in touch with us by now. photo documentary filmmaker , yes, they wrote to me. vera, we congratulate you. good day , i'm glad to see you here. about you wrote i am mutually glad to see you, a former fashion photographer with experience working in british and italian glossy magazines. and now the photo is a documentarian of military white photography. and you are
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accredited in the armed forces of ukraine, well, everyone journalists have to be accredited there, who works in the field, who works in the war, both photographers and cameramen and journalists, and why did you change even these very glossy, well, very solid magazines to the war, it is very dangerous, first of all, because the war happened , because somehow other ukrainians can't do anything now . unfortunately, except to illuminate or help in some way to win, and that's who i am. i think even well, i didn't hesitate when i did it because i made this decision because because in my country war how can i shoot something other, where are you working now, what are you working on now
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, if you can say it, you can. i work in kyiv region , in kyiv region, but we go to very different places every time. two days ago, we were near the chornobyl region, near the border of belarus. who were in the occupation and every day i go to different places i don't even know when i wake up i don't even know where i am and where i will be today and where i will stay and where i will spend the night i always have hope that i will return and lie down in my bed but i'm ready for anything because we go to places like this, you work like this, well, who decides where you go, you work in a team , and i, well, i don't have my own car yet. it's not very convenient when you're taking pictures, because there's
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a lot of things on the road what do you have to do, so i sometimes go with volunteers, sometimes with friends who have a car, sculptors such as misha karlovsky , who joined and we also traveled with him and filmed , well, that is, every time you cling to people who go there in a different way, and why exactly in black and white why did you start showing the war in black and white photos maybe i was inspired by oleksandr oleksandr glyadiev, maybe that's why when i first saw his photos and i was very impressed, but i never thought that i would start photographing the war and start doing it in black and white. well, maybe it's just the mood, i don't know, i do n't want such a concept color, although sometimes when i take photos
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, for example, and i see a civilian car that was shot, i apologize for ranting, and there is a swastika letter v written in blood, then i leave it in color because it is blood and it is not, well, in black and white, the photo is not will convey from this color and this horror, well, such things, i remembered this moment from the film schindler's list , yes, it is also black and white, but there was this girl who was red, that is, the color red is present in the war, it's not cool, but there are some photos what are yours? well, the most, yes, the most eloquent, are they already or just ahead? i think that there are, there are. when we were the first time, for example, borodyans , it was the first day when the city was liberated from the
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clearing of the russian army, and there i had a monument to the archangel and they just broke the cross and he cross well, that is, he hasn't fallen yet, but he was already so broken, but in his other hand he had a sword and the sword didn't fall, it seems to me that this photo is very strong, although there is no such war in it, which we are in ruins and all this pain which we record, we recorded corpses and so on every day on the streets, but she is very strong, she is so powerful. it seems to me that you are saying that in the kyiv region you work and have worked like this, the photographer already sees reality differently, once again, the lens that after the liberation from occupiers. you saw the kyiv region, these are terrible, i think
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that every person, even now i am talking to you, i have emotions, i can barely contain them, because it seems to me that every person is ukrainian and european, and even a russian person, if you can call him a person, must come and see with his own eyes what is happening there, because feelings and the feelings are very strong, you are standing and it seems to you that you are in shorthand for a film, you understand that this is not true, you are trying to get someone to hug you so that you wake up. it is true that there are no houses. i remember this moment when we arrived in irpin and anything gostomel and the smell of a corpse corpse corpse smell of ashes smoke and he was just with us for a week you understand that is the city and when you already
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come home you are emotional such and such a swing i'm sorry today but you still have to process this material later you have to deal with him again he has to be experienced and go through this pain again because of these people uh it won't be very easy i'll tell you honestly how do you convey a photo it's all because well uh pictures can't convey the smell so there's a corpse smell uh harry uh all this entourage this just a tiny piece. how do you convey the atmosphere of the photo? well, i'm trying to somehow convey it. i don't know if i should answer this question or if i'm good at it , but besides the fact that i'm not a reporter yet, i'm trying to make some kind of artistic photo at the same time it was like
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art material, including documentary photography, it is not always easy to come and make a report, these are completely different things, but everything around you, you feel it all and everything is the same, you pass the material through you, you cannot stand aside. you understand, you convey it somehow. you just sometimes cry , sometimes you work. by the way, misha karlovsky helped me with his eyes, his beauty, because every time after all this, i sat in the car and looked into his eyes and said, "can i just look at my eyes, because they are very beautiful and they they saved me simply, but we tried to convey it is not difficult because you are standing in the midst of ruins, you are standing in the midst of death, corpses around you, well , it is not difficult to convey.
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recorded by the group mass grave in irpen i can't even i can't even if i'm honest them no no no i can't even show them to people i have them they are still lying but i can't show them you understand i can't show these photos they are so me i don't know how ethical it is even, but when you are there near that mass grave of the dead and just whole, it is very difficult before it was unethical for us journalists to show the bodies, but now it is important that the world sees what is really happening and without these real photos, no one will believe that the russians are so they behave here and kill ukrainians like that, but now there is a demand for your photos from foreign media well , uh, somehow, uh, they are flying around, i don’t know what magazines, newspapers are flying around like that, several magazines
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have already asked me to publish one, by the way, there was a magazine about horses there is such a magazine in switzerland, it's kind of luxurious, you know, because there are horse races there, and i have one . track he they know where they are going, it also impressed me very much, then they took a few more magazines. but now i work more on exhibitions and auctions, and i have plans to do a personal exhibition in may. i was also waiting for a national photo abroad. we don't just show, we
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create exhibitions at a cultural art event work yes yes yes and we invite people and television there and we illuminate it because for us it is important not only physical struggle victory in ukraine we also need to win on on the cultural front i think this is the most it is now the same i thank you very much for doing this important work uh, with culture and photography you convince the world what is happening as russia is killing ukrainians already 62 congratulations - this is freedom life my name is serhiy stetsenko 62nd day russia's large-scale invasion of ukraine we talk about the capture of kherson oda and the military threat from transnistria for an hour, then we will remind you of the language on the pages of radio svoboda on facebook and on youtube, as well as on the air of the espresso tv channel well, let's start
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