of the factors of this park said that he would like it to be melted down, but when talking with mayor klitschko, he said that the monument might be put in a museum. we know that something will appear in its place that will symbolize the freedom of the people of ukraine, and the arch itself will be renamed the arch of ukrainian freedom people, dear viewers, i congratulate everyone who is currently watching the joint broadcast of the channels live and espresso, if you suddenly expected to see matvyi ganapolskyi here, then everything will be right, he will appear literally in a moment, but today well, in in principle, this week's broadcasts will be in such a rather unusual format. but nevertheless, i will present a guest on our broadcast today. this is

yuriy zaliznyak, associate professor of the department of new meds at the ivan franko national university of lviv, associate professor of the department of journalist and mass communication of the institute of law, psychology and innovative education e- e lviv national university lviv polytechnic e good evening good evening well, i hope that matvii ganapolskyi, about whom i already said at the beginning also together with us matvii yurii have a good evening we want to see and hear you and i want to see you, you can't imagine what you allow yourself to do without me hello, dear friends, so i'm at a distance greetings from the studio hello hello hello hello hello to all e- hey, yuri, i finally see you and it's very nice for me. you haven't been around for a long time, dear friends, i'll remind you that this is a program called people of war and we continue to explore how we go to war and

how the war passes by. as always, our program will include musical numbers. you understand specific musical numbers and of course my dear colleagues who are sitting there they will comment on everything go beautiful girl don't think that you are just a co-presenter as they say a microphone stand no, under no circumstances will you necessarily speak what do you think about everything absolutely let's start i want to find you late with a guy whose name i didn't know, yevhen malyarevskyi, do you know yevhen malyarevskyi, you don't know what you don't know, listen i really respect a cappella singing when it's clear when one person sings everything and here i have many groups they will not be called by people who sing there and western and ukrainian and so on. and the new

generation is a young guy. i think so. he has it on youtube. i will show it. he even has a section for patriotic songs. he takes songs that are well-known and for several voices . unfolds and now you will hear the communist song that is very well known to you stand up a great country and i would not broadcast this song if it were not for the fact that it is not a soviet song stand up a great country and as always the russians stole it so yevhen malyarevsky sings the song stand up a country huge, which is not really, get up, huge , and from where you will see her on the screen, i am

irina , with whom i am also in contact. don't get up, the country is huge, but the new text, which is the real text, will yevgen sing , it will be absolutely fine, dear friends. so, the original is performed by yevhen malyarevsky and carefully follow the inscriptions on the screen, the only folk fairy tale, there is no longer any strength to we were held up by an uprising, an uprising, the people take up arms for ukraine, the death pain of the saint is on fire, the uprising is on fire, my people, take up arms, a moment for ukraine, the death of the saint is on fire , we

are going with the enemy on foreign land . ukraine, the pain of death to st. lina is burning, uprising, my people, take up arms , for ukraine, death, do not fight, saint lida is burning, it is not for us, it is not our will, the lordship is not for us, and we do not want prison, we do not want muscovites under the kremlin yoke, stand up, my people take up arms glynsk for the country of death my salvation rise up

my people take up arms a moment of death for ukraine my holy war of the mountains well, mr. zaliznyak, what do you say, i did not sing along, but i seem to have understood the context and at least the 100-year history of the song. yes yes and what a wonderful performance the new generation and i want to say that i will definitely, as i promised , show you all the patriotic songs of this wonderful yevgeny malyarevsky, but now i have a question for you both, you know my traditional first, let's start with you are my decoration of the screen, let's say it like this, let

's make it happen well, you understand the compliments, what to do here , both for you and for zaliznyak, i have a simple question, it's another day of war, how do you perceive it ? it's starting to get used to the sirens, starting to get used to those terrible news that come every day very, very much. i 'm afraid that i'll start to get used to it. i'm very afraid that the world will start to get used to me. it's probably now, well, the worst thing is even scarier than sometimes these news what you are reading is terrible. i guess i am catching on to the results, the world is getting used to yuri. it seems that no, i want to believe that no, but guided by the experience of the past, who have been there for the last maybe 20-30 years. well, after all, unfortunately, human nature is such that people

get tired of bad news are tired of the war and when it does not concern you, in the end it is very difficult to remain such an active accomplice for a long time, it is clear to yuri, what do you say ? do you understand that after a certain time ukraine will cease to be the number one topic for the international press and international television? well, in general for the world as such . that for us, for ukrainians, every day is new, and the most frightening thing is to perceive it as a new normality, i will offer you something new, you want something new. please, you

will see the video now. the first the blessed fire descended somewhere there, mostly on the city of bryansk for some reason. moreover, it descended on various objects. and secondly, i saw a very funny caricature, it means zelensky, well, cut out, you understand, yes, zelensky, it means he is standing and like that, er, it means he is smoking a plane tree, well, the real zelensky, you understand, and next to him a and behind him the fire is not in the storehouse and so on and so on. well, the bull threw it, you understand, in the wrong place, let's make sure you understand. news please take a look bryansk oil depot naf for and there everything is on fire nice video let 's

watch april 9 one and two exploded smotry explosions

look i have a question for zaliznyak yura means well here it is written that they do not comment in any way but there was such a comment from russia from the russians if you will mean the russian territory there and do these attacks, then you will not gather, well, that is, we will bomb kyiv there and so on. and so on, i have a question . got off blessed fire, i have a question, let the blessed fire continue, is it not necessary to annoy putin?

you know why i say that it is not necessary to annoy putin, yuriy, because you appeared, you know, in the wall street journal, there is a report that kabaeva is not touched, in order not to annoy putin, one should annoy is it not necessary to annoy putin, that is, with a paraphrased question, is it sometimes closer to the oil depot than kabayev? well, the fact that you are addressing this question is a little strange to me, i am not an american. in german, as you know, the fear of russia increases with the distance, the closer you are. it's not as scary as it turns out, but at the same time , it should be noted that when you look at this symphony of fire, which is not laid out like in the previous video, into separate fragments, for some reason you immediately remember how the oil depot burned here in lviv and not only in lviv, that is, i i remember that even the taste, so to speak, of that fire and that smoke that

erupted and curled up here above the city in the sky, and it is difficult to talk about the fact that there is one oil depot for two oil depots, what should be the exchange rate, but of course emotions prevail that we have what now and in those neighbors who were considered there were called some brothers, although it is difficult to comment now, again, without being emotional, what does it mean, what does it mean, i am coming to this, i have to do what needs to be done, we need to go where we need to go, and considering the fact that we have a war, what is that? annoyance, we need to survive and do everything so that the nation lives for centuries and millennia, that's all what's the point annoyance, what's the point of kabaeva, what is he, if he is, now let's show iryna, it's me to the editor and please show this publication of radio svoboda prokabayeva, please, now you

will see it on the screen. look, please, people, please, please, please, please. oh, so you see a very interesting photo. this is not a montage. by the way, i will leave. i know that there is an original of such a photo, but you understand this publication yura, why did it confuse me because after buchi , after irpen, after everything we've been through, wall street journal, i don't know whether or not you think that there is some red line that we must, in order not to offend volodymyr volodymyrovych, yes or no, that's how it should be. well, for example, i'm like that. you you know i don't provocative, but i would not tolerate, for example, the crimean bridge is standing. i am not saying that it should be blown up. i understand that it can be on may 9, such a gift will be given, but i am simply talking about whether

ukraine should have any brakes, for example, fearing that he will drop an atomic bomb, everyone the brakes that should be should be related exclusively to the survival and prosperity of our ukrainian people in this particular case, they should be subordinated to one goal , as many have already noted, we fell asleep in one country, the same thing woke up in another. after all, there must be self-defense with brakes, self- defense whether on one's own territory or on someone else's territory. if this foreign territory does not respect ours. and now a wonderful person is

joining us. mr. serhiy joined us. good evening, we all greet you. good evening from the kherson region. glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, we welcome you, mr. serhiy, mr. serhiy, you are not with us in the studio. please tell me a simple question. how are you doing - this is the first part and the second question. how do you perceive today's day of war? well, i'm doing well, you know, what warms me is that i'm actually on the border of the kherson region and we're waiting for ours to enter the the onslaught coming from the side of the russian federation is the agony of putin, who is now actually going on the offensive, but is receiving such a strong resistance from

our armed forces, because even today the military actions that took place and the enemy actually went on the offensive in the area kiselivka yes, that's it from the direction of mykolaiv, but received so much nagor that they rolled back again to chernobaivka and precisely these are the events, precisely these are the news, they raise the fighting spirit and the mood of any soldier and any kherson citizen, because the kherson people know that every day of the occupation is, well, every scar on the heart and every kherson citizen is waiting for liberation, we believe in the armed forces, and you know, it warms my soul that i am in the ranks of the armed forces who are going to liberate kherson, and this is my

dream, you know, and my hope, and my pain. but i believe that we will liberate kherson, and this will take place soon, please tell me, everyone says that we are fighting better workshops, if you can say it that way, workshops are another word, but there are a lot of them, well, many of them, well, russia, they drive and drive, go and go, you know, we are fighting, even what are the workshops again and the fact that we are fighting for our land, we are fighting for our relatives, we are extremely motivated. i want to say that we have completely different people from completely different parts of ukraine, but the motivation is simply incredible. and here people

came and in our unit, everyone is absolutely volunteers who, as one, from the first day of the war, it was our unit that was formed from the first day of the war, which went through what they were in, absolutely not thinking about where, where, and how. there was only one goal of beating the occupier to drive him out because we are fighting for our land, for our relatives, for our children, and this is the biggest motivation, and no matter how many there are , they really tell us that crazy columns from crimea are going there, but we know that they will definitely not go anywhere. and we know that they will all die here. once and secondly, the remnants of shortages, then we them let's throw it far beyond the borders of the crimea oh burn them all in hell burn burn let's wish them a serious wish thank you very much for joining serhiy khlamin

deputy of the kherson regional council soldier of the armed forces of ukraine thank you for being by our side thank you thank you yura i have a question for zaliznyak mr. zaliznyak, please tell me whether we are preparing for a long, long, long war, because you understand me , everyone asks me, i don’t have an answer, but everyone asks , well, you are knowledgeable, do you have information there, then zelensky will call you, then the commander-in-chief the gold of the armed forces, biden calls at night and they all tell me when the war will end, and i answer, you know, they say very different things. i don’t know. i promise to ask zaliznyak . in the first place, first biden, then you, and zelensky is ahead of you, that

's right, so that there are people too, it's not bad. nice, nice trident. thank you, your handsome one drew a trident, well, it's not bad, it's better to prepare for something longer and to be surprised that it didn't last how long did you prepare than to set yourself some dates make some plans for yourself for sure perspective and then when this date comes and you realize that not everything happened that you wanted to happen and god forbid disappointment i think that just this spirit that tears the body to battle means the ukrainians, the ukrainian army . with its emotional charges, but it also tears

us apart, as we saw in the previous story, somewhere it explodes for some reason no, i agree, it is better not to expect anything, but matviyovych, do you remember arestovich, how everyone praised him at the beginning, he gave some predictions that by the middle of april, the end of april and everyone believed so. well, maybe it's good that people calmed down for a certain time, but only now we see that it's already er. i want to tell you that er. dear serhii khlan, he is the same. how interesting he said that we are motivated and yurko finds out and masha what not only soldiers who fight are motivated or not, you understand, but also citizens, but if you ask any citizen of ukraine when the war is over, he will say, well, we will still

fight, but we will definitely say that we will win and so on. and you, in general, he understands why we are fighting to at least get to the borders of ukraine with russia and so on to liberate everything, you know, dear viewers, and you know masha and you, yurko. i really like what they are doing, what bbc radio svoboda is doing, and so on. they have opportunities in they have people, they have money they have big cameras and so on, they work in brigades and they work everywhere, and here they asked and when the war will end, people asked the russians . to this i will answer that the war

will not end soon, let's see the answers of the russians, not only how they say when the war will end, but what they say and how it will end, listen . i think that at least six months, probably this is the best case, so that the second world war does not start when putin is coming, i've already had enough of putin, you know, men have to be brought in more, stronger weapons, more powerful, and it just might be, i

think so, the left bank of the dnipro will be cleaned, then negotiations will begin. and you think that there is a military confrontation and i think that there is no special operation to the introduction true to false, i can't guess, i thought in 3 days, well, something is painfully regrettable, i can't tell because i'm not a tactician, i wouldn't call for construction and so on because we have putin very плохо этому тачаться i think that this ukraine should be completely erased from the land. well, i think everything will end somewhere in the summer. well, it's very complicated. i think that's how the man depends. when putin dies in five years, it will continue for a long time because the parties will not agree in the near future. it will last when it will end on paper it will warm up without paper that is, i think there will be an armed conflict or some kind of pochakhov mood will continue already for a very long time, it will be for a long time may 9 well, i think that

in general, there are no wars, this is all politics , masha, pay attention to everything that these ordinary people from the street said, you see no remorse, no understanding of the situation, i especially

liked the woman who said well, somehow. not decisively, why? and i ask you about this so that you either refute what i say or confirm it. it seems to me that this is for a long time because those they do not understand what is happening, this is a stage in general, and this is what i liked, this is not a special operation at all, this is, as he said, a war struggle the truth about something and the lie about us, the truth is onslaught. the truth about the lie, you remember brother 2 well, that's all. that's why i believe that this is for a long time and i admit it regardless of the possibility of the armed forces of ukraine. i'm just trying to understand. i'm saying frankly how i feel about

it how to live, how to work, how to talk about, you understand, a person cannot talk only about the war , and we already talk about the war with you all the time of every program and we speak correctly, and there is no end to it. and especially about brother 2 so how is there the main character sang a song while climbing the stairs of a tall building in the united states. i learned that i have a huge family . to be love and if they come to your home with such a rejected love and try to make you love or make you love in return. the main thing here is to clearly separate where there is reality so as not to get used to it

yourself in return even from this absurdity because sometimes when a person is faced with an absurdity, he does not know how to act, just a brain with such an unfamiliar situation. when a person is caught off guard, he does not know how to help himself, and here it is important to keep yourself, including in your hands and emotionally, and the same if i answered at least a little to yours is also a philosophical question, by the way, but do you understand my person is ethereal and masha and i are ethereal people and it turns out that 24 hours a day when we are not under pressure we have to talk about it we have to talk we have to we have to in the lviv word we have to so hard yes i am also lviv i tried to answer in a word yes, yes, yes, yes, you understand. and you can't, like them, for example, in the armed forces , they can't take a step back

. about cats. when there are cats in the program, only cats in the years of the zsushushniks, you understand. well, we still have a person who will shed light on important international history, the extraordinary powers of the ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america, valery chalyi, well, in those years, i was always glad to see him, now he will appear, that mr. chaly, whom i always like to see, let me see, chap where is that chaly, chaly kitty, now he will appear, dear friends well, you understand, technically, we are not in paris, london, so we must have some small problems