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conversation was that the president of turkey proposed putin to meet with the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky, according to erdogan, the positive dynamics achieved at the ukrainian and russian negotiations in istanbul should be preserved, erdogan also added that the meeting between putin and zelenskyi should take place, the leaders of the two countries can be hosted by turkey. well, as we know , the kremlin has repeatedly said that they do not want to meet with volodymyr zelenskyi, there is nothing. because, again, according to putin, their military operation and where according to the plan in they are all fine, well, probably 22,000 dead russian soldiers, this is what putin calls the plan. well, i will now ask the editor if we are ready to include our first guest,

rami sinus, a political scientist, an expert on international issues politicians. good evening, how do you hear us? i congratulate you . thank you for the invitation. i hear you and welcome you. it’s very early. the negotiations between erdogan and putin. erdoğan, the president of turkey, will be able to mediate in kyiv and force putin to peace . well, it seems that no other world leader has yet managed to convince putin of anything, will erdogan succeed? well, come on, i'll speak russian, because i'm still learning ukrainian. hello, i hope. well, soon i 'll be speaking in ukrainian. so, you can.

he speaks in ukrainian, i understand that, but uh, i just want to show my respect to you and the ukrainian people, that i study my law, it 's important. that's it, uh, you. as for the negotiations, i want you to take a deeper look at this. everything that is happening in the political sphere , because this is a purely political topic , it requires the same thorough approach, because the negotiations that took place today between gucheres and putin took place after he went to turkey, flew there from turkey what? he flew there, nothing, he flew to some other city, yes, the secretary general did not understand what the day is really, the secretary, he and the organization of the united nazis today do not represent any political weight, the foreigner is not for the

western countries, not for russia and all others who are close to russia, including china и сейчас there, we understand that it is not possible for putin to save his face, uh, putin's channel left today, which goes out to the west, that's just turkey, nato member turkey, turkey is actively supporting of ukraine, i include the last meeting of the 40 -month defense of rammstein, that's all that is connected with nato, it's better there, it takes part, all that is connected with the support of ukraine, namely the military region, the courses i support, turks support themselves, and together with the nato block, including the second issue, a political issue the political question is that turkey is now in such a position that it is the only platform. well, israel can still be, well, all of israel on the political map of the world is slightly smaller than turkey later

that turkey is a strong israeli member, and plus israel does not like the euro, so it is not for nothing that president zelensky chose a platform for negotiations and possible meetings and called turkey and israel just the same. in the middle of some issues in chronic politics so that some negotiations could take place there, some meetings , some channel of communication in case of humanitarian issues, and our best prospects might be. some people understand perfectly well that they will conclude an agreement until the war ends and the active phase until the battle for donbass ends, here it is today , just like that, everything has passed and it is clear that putin is not

getting what he wants there, but the request is increasing their support, and this is the meeting 40 of the ministers , it was clearly shown that the smell was put on today, you dreamed of me just like that, the minister of defense commanded the parade there, who said, i overturned heaven and earth, well, i did everything that ukraine won. i also do not just make such statements you know the points are irrevocable for the west, the application made there by the minister of defense of turkey, remember everything and it will not be able to hold back for a long time, it will not be able to hold back the black sea for a long time, moscow understood that if you want to preserve this channel, you want turkey to at least do something . some initiations here in turkey, at least within humanitarian limits, today, for everyone on the planet, the number one question is the humanitarian version, the topic of maruv is unambiguously, very much, this topic is not

discussed by non-aligned states. 2.4 clarifications here on these during putin's negotiations with azerbaijan, putin for some reason decided to declare that mariupol has allegedly already been captured by russian troops and hostilities are not taking place there. such a statement was made by putin, which means everything that putin publicly speaks to the camera. they talk to this puck today attack azov, you don't do anything to me, you say, it turns off, he speaks himself, you understand, i bomb the camera, this is the last one for you, more to the last, the same, the humanitarian corridor, that's short the camera closed, there are no humanitarian corridors in the bombers, and this is understood, that's why he said today, public, that's the bottom. oh, what they actually said. как ето веется самкары и почему ето гутиешь flew through turkey there just like that, they flew, so today

turkey's role in matters of influence on the same moscow is much higher than i have a diplomatic region of the united states and the same euroservice russia at least listens and based on this from russia, the turkish official explains that if you want to preserve this communication channel , it is proposed to support him and destroy him. humanitarian services there are people concrete civil population the whole world is talking about it and there is a military who wants them to leave surrender to you they will not surrender to you they will die to the last you surrender anything who knows this if you want to save your face, i'll give you an option to save your face, sound, or what's going on. he's not the americans, nobody's going to be the second - he's the red cross, well, technical support, operational cover, there's going to be a sea, for sure there's going to be an

organized passport, or that zhetovtsei, you hand over your respect, you show the same eh - eh, and i am helping to save lives, this is a list of citizens, and tomorrow my voice will be even more insane. he says because mariupol after mariupol if you don’t make it back there are no roads at all and you say to save face and putin needs to save his face after seeing the atrocities in buch in irpen. does he really care? what about him? enough people think in the world , the fact is that i had a vision in terms of the fact that oh-oh it bothers him very much what he says there worries him very much uh, to spoil the relationship with turkey, the defense minister who made

this statement, he just didn't say that, we were holding them back now, and tomorrow we won't be holding them back in the black sea . er, this channel will support communication with you, it will completely switch to this side, then where will you have this communication channel that you even want tomorrow, negotiations are already underway, when they can be, negotiations can only be in two cases, when someone he loses when he capitulates, i perfectly understand the current situation, considering these 40 defense ministers who gathered, considering the visit of borinken and austin to kiev the other day, considering that here the usa is making a decision, these are all the statements, i understand that the usa sees only the end of this

victory of ukraine, namely victory first of all, russia won the victory of ukraine. russia understands this . how much are you ready to lose? here is the question : how much are you ready to lose by february 24 ? that's better. that's how you decide and when you decide. you will have to think. and where will you decide to discuss it in istanbul? there is nothing left. you can discuss it there. well, what is there, what do you want to discuss here ? so show me respect so that i am here at the door. i will say that i hosted a reception, that there will be gatherings and negotiations, and so i can. refuse these negotiations, oh , you are disrespecting me. i am not asking you for money or from others . kharkiv, i am asking you for a humanitarian favor to make these people save their lives and i will be able to tell the world tomorrow that the whole world is

ету евчено ето thanks to the president of turkey, this is it today, i think so, i think so, this was the conversation in my understanding, because i know that it works in all of its political relations , what about putin, even though he is already with him. why did he become considered because he showed his teeth since 2015 a year ago, he was shot down by a syrian plane, he showed lilia, he showed him the other day, he showed mr. defense again, he did the same thing, and the application of a south german woman showed it, he showed it, he showed his teeth , and he showed the americans when he bought an eshk 400 from you. that it is impossible to talk about it the way you talked with angela merkel or self-proclaimed macron, so he can tell you in your place and if he tells you about it, how do i address you with a request? i need to sleep all these people so that tomorrow no one will say that i asked you and you didn't listen to yourself if you do n't listen to me. when tomorrow and you're not there, you don't ask for anything. you understand this kind of

conversation, and this conversation was told in the wrong way. let's see the result of this conversation. which i heard today, which reached the public , or what he said, you'll just say yes, you didn't go there. you're the only one that i don't agree with. that's a circle i agree with your president. he had to first come to irpen at night berdyansk will see it with your own eyes. will there be any real results of the meeting of utyevych with putin and with the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi? will it be possible to agree on some humanitarian corridors because today mrs. iryna vereshchuk well, she already repeatedly says that it is very, very difficult for russia to agree to any humanitarian corridors, and this we are not talking about mariupol, of course there are no humanitarian corridors there , after the visit of the un secretary general to moscow, the situation may change, putin sardogan because he

flew to turkey in order to receive this support and uh, and what is your father holding for you today , officially, uh , officially? more properly and if it doesn't look like someone will stop him, someone influenced him somehow but it's like it's hitting the owner of the same thing yes that is , putin behaves like a match that is, i don't happen to anyone, i'm not afraid of anyone, but i can still listen to myself there , so because of today he does not represent that real authority, not himself and his organization and the beginning of such a mess that he is on the planet not only today. yes, for all the last years of the reign of kuchenu, we are not a model, just uh, i

think so waiting waiting they uh it can be positive if you really value relations with turkey, and specifically with the president, the body if he does not do anything in this direction , that is, he will close this topic, that is , for example, he will continue to bomb it, it will worsen your relationship, the instruction you already mentioned today about the meeting in the german rammstein at the american air base, representatives of more than 40 countries were there, in particular the minister of defense, mr. reznikov was also there, and here is what is interesting: the head of the pentagon, here he said that ukraine definitely believes that can win, and everyone present is doing it, that is, all those present, more than 40 countries believe that ukraine will win. how quickly can the supply of weapons change after this meeting, because until now there have been

big problems with exactly that, over time. that is, they are ready to give us weapons the evaluation is a little too long, she sometimes comes to us. i want all ukrainian viewers to hear clearly the main point of my face. this is the political decision that was printed. this is the beginning of lisa. something else, we will remain on the tele side. it was not voted on, but they are going to gather only this week. you can not worry about it. it is 100% of both parties. the public of the united states and this opinion of both parties, this political decision is simply not accepted, this decision was to be accepted, and after this decision, this is what 40 defense ministers appeared to gather under

the chairmanship of the minister of defense today, he sejjaj and veshch porodiril connected to consider the scum of stroih veshch they understand they put on the map their own and the second way back this sword and the usa this is me no longer talk about the president of the usa and everything else everything that is connected with the president of the usa and from this country so that eh when someone says 40 countries, these 40 countries are for that, and it is possible to collect these countries, there are some that you would like and would not like, such as, for example, hungary, for example , yes, definitely, someone else who was looking for everything in the course of two месяцев мы хорошечка saw their faces but after all, they came, they will line up tomorrow, if necessary, even more will happen, let's take it, remember the second world war, there were 53 countries in the coalition against hitler, today already 40 have gathered, that's just gathered everything, how can it be simple, again, they gathered not just like that, overcoats, specific countries gathered everything is too gathered and close to the union, they gathered, you say

not just like that, not for a tick, what could be such a significant result of this meeting, in what way i want you to understand that not everything is going well females are allowed in these countries, we want to eat a lot of such things nearby. for example, the former country of the vashat treaty. to work in such a way that not for one day, not for one minute, not one of these 40 countries would have a problem with its security. that is, i lent you a million dollars there, so it will come from this side uh, someone gave me a million to live, and that’s how it will work, just not in the financial plan , it will work in the first best military technical plan. well, again, it will work according to the

program that president zelensky and his representative there, who was the minister of defense reznikov put it at 100, that is, today, i understand the minister of defense of the united states in his private visits there . the immediate plane, that is, they understand that this is not a one-day war, i am very advanced, and the war means going to a victory concert in order for this victory to be ensured, this should be such a systematic approach, this should be i want it to be evaluated in this way and how is it it will start working on the earth. i think it is already working. well, only then will we feel it quickly. well, i think it will be almost within a couple of weeks that it is doomed. when we see it shoot something at 200 70 at 300 km. and yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, you will see lavrov's rhetoric, and no one will be second, they will start talking about some kind of negotiations, let's meet again there, they

were there, but in order for the doors of istanbul to be open to you, he is asking you today, er, forget that you gitle or his grandson, you will remember that you will also be in the world, even though he will do a good deed, i am asking you about this, the president of turkey, give him a corridor and let the military out of there, all the ukrainians, and let out the civilians, and again they will leave through the red cross that i will put ships they will leave and they will be with me from turkey through turkey, they will not be there, you will keep good relations with me, and tomorrow, if it is not necessary, i will negotiate this topic, and you will already lose yours. and you would not like to lose completely. then you can come to me address i will then be able to address president zelenskiy, that's all, even and say that this is the case or that he will do so and so. in zelensk i present i.e. the situation after gucci irpenya and pentence more than

once outlined the red lines of the project after which ukraine is ready to withdraw from peace negotiations - that is , if the defenders of mariupol are destroyed and the pseudo-referendum in kherson, which is planned panorama we thank you very much for those who have joined our broadcast for your comments we wish you a hmm peaceful evening peaceful night eh ramy sinus political scientist expert in international politics thank you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes you are already practicing the ukrainian language well stop, we thank you very much. and we are moving on for now, friends. well, war is war. we can not forget our history. we already talked today about the fact that remembering history and not forgetting it is extremely important. today is the 36th anniversary of the accident at the chernobyl nuclear power plant. power plants is a tragedy of a global scale and risks and repetitions, unfortunately, it existed

this year and precisely because of the russian invasion, and the chernobyl nuclear power plant was under the occupation of the russian military for over a month, how did chernobyl actually experience the second catastrophe, let's see together, the catastrophes in the history of mankind in slavutych, in the city of the workers of the chernobyl nuclear power plant. this happens every year and precisely at night, because the explosion at the fourth reactor of the nuclear power plant occurred at one hour and 23 minutes of the night. despite the war, the tradition of commemoration was not canceled this year. for this reason, the city relaxed the curfew. we understand how how important is it for slavutych to gather and analyze and worship these people who protected from the chernobyl tragedy, the world nuclear power plant tragedy happened 36 years ago

therefore, on april 26, 1986, with a difference of two seconds , two explosions occurred at the fourth reactor , part of the buildings collapsed, a large fire started, which caused catastrophic emissions of radiation into the atmosphere, hundreds of firefighters and emergency service workers tried to extinguish the multi-day fire . many of them later died of radiation sickness, as well as thousands of others, some of the dead liquidators on the memorial are now recognized by oleksandr zabirchenko in 1986 , he himself worked at the rybak station. nuclear safety and i video how his skin fell off everything and here i used to go and will go as long as i live будет может время такое что приезут on

strollers всё рано все работы i'll be here i want the youth of ukraine to know near the memorial slavutychi and lyudmila , now an engineer of the chernobyl nuclear power plant, who survived the second disaster at the station, its occupation by russian troops, who kept almost the whole world in fear, because there was a risk that a man-made nuclear accident could happen again; will it be meat or will it be people, it didn't matter to them and that's what they told us, the chernobyl zone was under occupation for over a month, it was liberated only on march 31, workers from the chernobyl nuclear power plant were in fact hostages from the first day of the war, we arrived on the night of the 23rd on the 24th, at 9:00 a.m., we

were supposed to be changed, but unfortunately this did not happen , military operations began, we heard how hmm, something is breaking down outside the perimeter of the station, planes are flying in, my shift cost me 600 hours instead of 12 at the nuclear facility, the occupiers had such a headquarters. i have never seen so many armories in my life. i couldn't even imagine that we could keep so many weapons at the station. the station was like a transshipment base. as they said, a rest base. they went to kyiv, shot , arrived at the station, rested, washed, washed they fell asleep again in kyiv, and there were a lot of such rotations after the occupation. the chernobyl zone is recovering from destruction and looting. after all, all state- owned enterprises there were destroyed and completely looted

, however, even after 36 years, as they say to the state agency from the management of the exclusion zone ukraine will successfully overcome the consequences of this disaster for the second time, well, actually, the fact that the occupation of the chernobyl nuclear power plant was extremely dangerous was also recognized by the director of the international atomic energy agency, rafael grossi, today he personally visited the emergency a, according to him, due to the movement of heavy equipment of the russian troops in the chernobyl zone the level of radiation was increasing there , now everything has stabilized and is now within the normal range, and the head of megate assured that these indicators are monitored daily, and the president volodymyr zelenskyy said that today it is not enough to simply remember chernobyl, because today russia has created a threat that could exceed the accident that happened 36 years ago. zelenskyy

said this in his daily closing address. atomic disaster in the history of mankind, but this year it is not enough to simply remember chernobyl and it is not enough to say the traditional words of gratitude to the heroes of the liquidators, it is not enough to remind why and how it became possible yes, the catastrophe is not enough to repeat the conclusions that every reasonable person and every adequate society should draw, because this year russia created new threats that could surpass even the most terrible accident. i remember the night of march 4, when it became known about the fire at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant , when russian tanks fired at the plant. they they knew exactly which object they were firing at. but they had an order to seize the object at any cost, they didn't care, they didn't care that the zaporizhzhia

station is the largest in europe, they didn't even think how many power units are there and how can the shelling end that night? i spoke with world leaders and everyone who could influence the events and stop russia. i spoke with president biden. had i not woken up that night, we would not have mentioned chernobyl today, because all thoughts were about what russia did to the zaporizhia npp, it is even surprising how quickly and completely russia, the entire state, can forget about the most terrible catastrophe experienced by its people, as well as the liquidation of the consequences of the chernobyl accident in 1986, was dealt with not only by ukrainians, but also by belarusians, russians and others should tell about that catastrophe, and in russian schools it should be reminded in russia every year on april 26, as it is done

throughout the civilized world and instead, right today, they launched three missiles against ukraine. so they flew directly over the blocks of our nuclear power plants, and three nuclear power plants at once over zaporizhzhia over khmelnytskyi and the southern ukrainian nuclear power plant, what is it that they are still threatening or are they shooting at? there are simply no words. it turns out that they do not realize what chornobyl is in general. the russian troops who tried to advance on kyiv through the chornobyl zone used this closed territory as a military bridgehead. they set up positions on earth at which is simply forbidden to even stand, they drove the armored vehicles through the territory where pollution, radiation, materials are buried and where the number of radioactive particles is simply off the scale

they destroyed the dosimetric control points, they also broke the radiation control system at the chernobyl nuclear power plant , they looted the nuclear analytical laboratory, they even stole contaminated things that were confiscated from violators of the rules of the exclusion zone only thanks to the professionalism and conscientiousness of our specialists who work at the chernobyl plant and at other chernobyl facilities zone managed to save ukraine managed to save europe from a new disaster only thanks to a professional team zaporizhzhia npp and all