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but it is not at all interested in any combat operations, so i don't remember what happened to the constantine volunteers who came to donbas and who saw everything that was happening here in full wrote reports and left, that is, they are very afraid that the same thing will not happen again some kind of transnistrian variant. today we wanted to clarify, you said in the kharkiv direction, you singled out hey, as the main emphasis on the kharkiv region due to the fact that half a thousand technicians were brought there, the processes are being accelerated, what exactly are these processes, so that we understand what the goal is and whether in general, the enemy has a strategy now and a strategy for them to spend, that is, they have er. if we talk about acceleration, this is what the general staff is talking about, it is an increase in the intensity of shelling, an increase, a real increase in the intensity of shelling, and they are in a hurry. quickly
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do er try to do the entourage of the ukrainians are in a hurry until may 9, they are just in a hurry . that is, i do not think that it is necessary to add may 9, it is of course symbolic, but they they are just in a hurry right now. thank you mr. vadim and vadim denysenko, the adviser to the minister of internal affairs of ukraine, as always, is very clear about the operational situation throughout the country . of the following means of our broadcast, this is political scientist myroslava ma'ana, as well as political and economic expert ihor chalenko, both experts are joining our skype conversation, we will now talk about today's latest news good morning to myroslava, congratulations to ihora yes good morning well, let's start with the fact that the
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house of commons of the parliament of canada recognized the crimes of russia in ukraine as genocide, and this is about the resolution with the following wording, taking into account the significant amount of clear evidence of systematic and numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the armed forces of russia at the direction of putin against the ukrainians, the house of commons of canada recognizes that the russian federation is committing genocide against the people of ukraine, these are war crimes which include mass atrocities, systematic cases of deliberate murder, desecration of corpses, forced deportation of children, torture, psychological and physical
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trauma , rape and other. leadership in ukraine by genocide, what tools does this open up for us? we know that several states have already recognized the events that are taking place in ukraine as genocide of the ukrainian people from the point of view of the further perspective of the consideration of cases in international courts , such a step is indeed for ukraine, they are playing for ukraine, we will be able to use this evidence in the future and again, the more countries recognize the events in ukraine as genocide, the stronger ukraine's position will be, the better ukraine's position will be, but we see that not all countries are ready for such a step yet. and indeed only those states where support for ukraine is high, where there is a wide representation of the ukrainian diaspora
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, they react and react first and make similar decisions, and again, we can ask if we answer questions about terms and deadlines, we can refer to the practice of recognizing e the holodomor of 32-33 years was a genocide of the ukrainian people, and we can see that by far the majority of states condemn these events that took place in ukraine, but not every state is ready to recognize it as a genocide of the ukrainian people and used certain mechanisms of such political leadership in order to avoid such a wording, that is, it is not excluded that in ukraine, as a ukrainian diplomat, ukrainian citizens will have to spend a lot of time to convince some states that the events are indeed genocide, but that some states and some of our partners react so quickly and so accurately and undeniably, this is already a good signal for
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ukraine, including defending its position of punishing the russian federation in the international arena thank you, mr. igor, i'll just illustrate the last thing with information from trostyanets - this is a city that was under occupation in sumy oblast, and investigative actions are already being conducted there, and at least 20 places were discovered where the occupiers tortured civilian residents, well , this is a small city, in fact, 20 torture sites have already been found and this is not the whole city yet, they bypassed 45% of the total area of ​​trostyanets only, they looked through it. this is what these crimes, which canada in particular has now recognized . in mind is it possible that someday someone there will be held responsible in 70 years, as with the holodomor , it is quite possible, in fact, we are already hearing from the
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official authorities even in kyiv that we want to actually do with a certain analogue of masad and if we have certified accordingly we already know the facts of the murders of specific people. we already know today when there is already an understanding of who specifically was involved in the rape of women and girls. we have concrete evidence of the persons involved in the murder and already today. these persons are the first to go. we already see public condemnation actively engaged in this not only there, but also european citizens, but as for the legal perspective, it is thanks to the fact that today a huge amount of work is being done to collect evidence and to interview those people who could see the interview of witnesses. it is clear
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that this is certainly not a one-month process, but nevertheless , it gives some hope that a significant number of those marauders and murderers from the russian federation who committed war crimes and , in fact, acts of genocide, will be punished because now you know it is very easy to blame everything on one putin and the leadership of the russian federation, but nevertheless it is thanks to the fact that today we are talking about specific people who send hundreds of kilograms of looted goods that are found through the mobile phones that were stolen from the dead well, it is obvious that the responsibility will fall on absolutely everyone. i am convinced that ukrainians will forgive me. i am the only one. i am convinced that even if it is 5-10 years, they will sit quietly. they think that they are somewhere
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they will hide in the russian hinterland, no, this will not happen, i think that the responsibility will come to everyone , we will now expand this opinion, i just wanted to say that the minister of digital transformation , mykhailo fedorov, constantly talks about how the ukrainian special services work to identify every war criminal who acted or is acting on the territory of ukraine and says that the occupiers do not even understand that they are constantly under the surveillance of cameras and actually such a tool works as if there is an enemy through authorization in action it is also possible to record the movement of enemy equipment and other crimes of the occupiers, fedorov also says that cameras are really such an effective tool and satellite images and ukrainian intelligence work, and that is why each occupier can and is already being identified. yes,
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but i wonder if it should be the personal responsibility of these performers, or should it be the personal responsibility of the leadership who gave such orders, or the president, who specifically should be responsible, or the entire russian people, which now miroslava is just watching this silently. perhaps you have an answer to this question. the responsibility of definitely must be, it must be the responsibility of uh , everyone. of the second world war, but they do not know that the world has moved on and it is banal when it was broadcast on one of the american tv channels. er evidence that these are the crimes of the russian federation by bringing the camera closer to the tank. where was this letter of theirs seen in er? he simply could not
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answer it. therefore, the responsibility must be the responsibility of each of the leaders. like those who er, like those who give orders to kill ukrainians to kill ukrainian civilians who were simply and trivially at home, it should be the responsibility of those who use torture, yes, it is definitely possible that there were those who were guided by some war issue, but everyone who used punishment to the civilian population it er-er hmm they should be punished and you know another rather interesting side is that er-er russia does not care about its citizens and its soldiers so really they have er-er numerical superiority in weapons while they have a numerical superiority in manpower, but what should be the leadership that treats, what
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disrespect should the leadership have for its people, and you treat them like cannon fodder, and in fact , how should this people treat themselves that allows themselves to be treated like that that citizens of russia do not react to such actions of the leadership, the fact that the russian army uses such methods must definitely be punished and recognized at the working level. let's talk, i just want to note as a fact that in ukraine they are working on a book of cats, a collection of information about every war criminal of the russian federation, similar to the catalog created at the time by israel after the second world war and it will be reported in the office of the president of ukraine, a large collection of information about every war criminal who committed atrocities against our peaceful population during the war
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is being investigated, is now being checked and verified , a huge amount of data is being verified for further cataloging . the cbc channel reported literally yesterday that, for example, in a city in the kyiv region, the russian occupiers killed local residents according to pre-compiled lists. yesterday we talked with valery ivasyuk on the air, he is a candidate of medical sciences and he said a very interesting thesis for me. i have not heard such a thing, and in principle, maybe this partially explains it, because we think, well, how is it possible to do what they do, what we saw in buchi there the rest of the freed townspeople are the only ones we will see in mariupol. he says that they are most likely put on hard drugs specifically to get them high , they understood what they were doing and, well, that explains a lot. it
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this is the policy of the military leadership and the russian leadership in general that they are simply not exposed to such dirty, hard drugs and, in principle, the journalists who filmed in the liberated territories say that there are many syringes. well, what kind of syringes are they? she will come anyway and about sobriety should come differently and russia under an international tribunal the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe wants to send there they supported the creation of an international tribunal on the crimes of the russian federation in ukraine they reported in the press service of the couple, accordingly, the resolution of recommendations was approved on the basis of the report of the german-german deputy frank schwabbi, the chairman of the group of socialists of the assembly from the chairmanship of the e-e documents, in particular, it was noted that the couple is concerned about the growing number of testimonies of atrocities committed by the russian armed forces in ukraine and supports efforts to investigate all
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in fact, this is a call to immediately create a special international criminal tribunal for the investigation and prosecution of the crime of aggression , which consists of political and military by the leadership of the russian federation, igor, will it be immediately or will it be after our victory, will it be something similar to the nuremberg process, how do you see this responsibility and when we will see it? that it will really be necessary to create a separate tribunal eh, i don't think that it is necessary to be tied to a specific place, it will be held, but it will really be a separate and, unfortunately, international criminal court in gaza eh, unfortunately, it is not suitable for this now i know what a series of preparatory work is being carried out, precisely as regards the discussion of the format of such a tribunal as it should work. therefore, the preparatory work is already underway now, by the way, i wanted
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to answer the question of the people's responsibility, you know, absolutely everyone will answer and even everyone who supported putin, did not support him in the elections or all, everyone will pay reparations of the ukrainian people out of their own pockets, that is why the responsibility is different, everything will fall equally to every citizen of the russian federation and what is going on attempts to humanize the enemy by explaining that they are under heavy drugs, they are still like no, they are all uh, a lot of people today are really under orders and they will commit those crimes even without drugs uh, and so on, this is because it is simply secondary to them. it was the question of rest. unfortunately, i work a lot in hostile social networks , now under different nicknames, i see the reaction of ordinary russians, and believe me, there is absolutely nothing humane in their current state. i want to say only that the most important thing right now is
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the work of our office of the prosecutor general, and our lawyers, all of whom join on a volunteer basis in order to collect the maximum amount of evidence, it is the evidentiary quality base that will help to condemn the rashit regime as much as possible by analogy, really, as it happened in nuremberg, and let me remind you that just according to the nuremberg trial - and despite the fact that there you will remember how it was written there that really everyone who committed crimes under the then nazi party should bear responsibility, the same thing will happen. i think that in our version the only thing of course, now nobody knows when the war will end, and it is problematic to collect testimony today, because civilians are banally afraid to testify and those who testify ask to cover their faces. they are afraid that someone will find them somewhere in russia. it is important that the law enforcement
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agencies know about this. we of course urge them to testify and uh, to give such information to law enforcement officers, because it is extremely important , this is an increase in our evidence base. a personal tribunal against vladimir putin is impossible, that is, the former prosecutor of the un tribunal prosiera leone david kane commented on this issue. he says that putin personally encouraged and rewarded those russian war criminals who acted in buchi, where she died, and was simply tortured a terrible number of civilians were killed, he awarded them with the ranks of the guards, this is also direct evidence of his personal approval of all the atrocities that are taking place in ukraine and his
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personal order to carry out this genocide so, to mrs. myroslava, the final part of our conversation is the question, how optimistic are you, mrs. myroslava, about the prospects of a military tribunal against putin, because the prosecutor of the un tribunal for sierra leone is talking about what such a tribunal is for putin personally will definitely happen during his lifetime, but still, how can it be ensured if russia remains a permanent member of the un, in the case of the ato, and besides, it is currently a nuclear state, well, you know, the investigation of crimes with regarding just citizens of russia or officials there , it will last. i think it will take more than one year, as we can see it from the general practice and bureaucracy of certain procedures, ah, eh, the investigation into putin, it will be difficult in general, and if it
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happens, then it is it will take quite a long time to organize it. and you know, it is very strange to me that only ukraine showed all those atrocities and only ukraine drew the attention of the world community to those crimes that were committed . from his we had encouragement, we also had georgia and we had moldova, in the end we had syria, we had a number of conflicts in the east, in general, that's why i think that the list of those crimes that he committed and that putin encouraged well is numerous. i think that it is evident base it can join the takuz base of creation not only ukraine but again, given the circumstances you mentioned regarding russia's membership of ion and ultimately due to the
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fact that putin is the president and there are certain legal restrictions as well, it will do difficult and uh you know, the best punishment, it is already happening for russia in general, is that the world understood what russia is and the world gradually. yes, of course, ukrainians would like it to happen faster, so that the reaction was sharper, but the world is gradually isolating itself from the russian federation, and again, if every citizen still i didn’t feel it if every citizen didn’t understand what the leadership of the russian federation has brought russia to. leadership will make it more and
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more difficult. etc. - about the fact that putin will be arrested because of the atrocities taking place in ukraine and, by the way, our experts, for example, the representative of ukraine in the un human rights council in 2005-10 volodymyr vasylenko says that there is also part of the responsibility of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, which ultimately has to rectify the rome statute, we will talk about this a little later with our people's deputies, well, separately, contact us now . thank you, myroslava mayna and ihor shynenko, political experts and analysts already from there is mark savchuk yes, we have energy and there is another topic until 9 o'clock, we will remind you at 9:00 we have a minute of silence for those who died in the war, so far it is about gases and energy marko marks of the time i am reading you oleksiy goncharenko eh for the post, the position of the prime minister of estonia,
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kaya kallas, her name is her, she wrote the following thesis: gas may be expensive, but freedom is without walls , such positions that are being heard in the world right now are priceless . you wrote that in the last post. about germany and about poland please tell me how it looks now, because the positions of the countries in terms of the military have changed a little, we saw it at the congress of these forty ministers of defense, so everyone is ready to help us, it's not about the fact that there are a couple of weeks for us all that's left is everyone can see that we we will stand and we will win, but how ready are the countries for gas? now, in practical terms, isolate russia and not buy gas and gas and fuel from her, and look at it. it is more complicated to give up on the net, and i think that we will soon very soon and we will see how
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europe for the most part gives up on russian inertia and considering the fact that russia receives more money than gas, this will be a very big step after the complete rejection of the conversation about how europe is standing and rejecting this is also from russian gaza, but it will be much easier because this is still a critical point that must be passed from gaza. it is more difficult to give up on small volumes that, so to speak, can be replaced right now by europe, specifically germany and this is a problem because the natural economy of the country will not refuse something that is critically needed, but these problems are also temporary and require a political solution, that is, they will have to resort to some compromises, that is, we will give an example , people will have to a-a turn up the heating by one degree a-a drive on the road 5 km/ h slower on average
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. to use coal- fired power stations again for a long time but this is all political decisions that should be taken and in germany there is practically nowhere to find an alternative to russian gas right now is this a political decision and the situation is more complicated there simply because there is such a problem as logistical delivery, that is, even if you found where to find gas, and such logistics of delivery gaza pipelines yes, it is simply impossible to logistically replace this volume now. as much gas as it consumed before that, and everyone is working on it now. europe now understands absolutely clearly that sooner or later russian gas will be cut off, and accordingly, these are additional
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communications are being built, let's say this is the place where nord stream-2 enters the territory of germany , and it will be re-equipped and built under it , and a terminal that accepts liquid gas is allowed, here's an example of a solution that will potentially be solved when this terminal is built there, it will be able to enter here with liquefied gas, and then germany will be able to receive it completely from a second source, from the usa or from other suppliers, and gas, and the infrastructure there is already built, that is, the pipe goes directly to germany and will be able to distribute это такая внутри это от примерно это есть it's not only where to find the gas and replace it, but also how to deliver it, we present the documents, we built the pipe before the beginning of the war, yes, nord stream-2, although the war is aggression russia was in ukraine for 8 years, and the example you give with liquefied gas, in particular, we successfully passed poland at one time by building a terminal for liquefied gas in
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swinoujsci . let us remind you that the polish mass media reported that russia had stopped supplying gas to poland. putin signed an agreement obliging foreign gazprom contractors to pay for russian gas in rubles from april 1, and there are countries in particular, poland, that did not agree to this . yesterday, the prime minister of poland, meteo shmurivecki spoke at a meeting with chancellor of germany olaf asholtz in berlin and spoke about the fact that poland is already able to mix russian gas completely, such a statement on the topic of poland's energy independence was widely accepted by the world media and actually what are the prospects, how successful do you think the example of poland will be and how much it can be inspiring for other european countries, look there, not only to poland, the supply in bulgaria has also been blocked, but the situation is absolutely similar, and the kremlin is using
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this topic for a fee in rubles in order to a-a from a legal point of view justify a full bank of supplies in this case . happened with poland poland, unlike many other countries, understood with its brain that a conflict of this size that is happening now is possible, which means that it is necessary to strategically prepare to completely get rid of russian gaza, and they went to it gradually and their last contract, which actually remained between a-a gazprom and a polish company a-a it did not meet something like this december and they did not plan to continue it, they said about it already this year, that is, in principle, the country was ready for such a development of the event, because we are now going to spring and summer when
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gas consumption is no longer so large, they can replace this additional small volume with another source, and that is, they were simply preparing for it, unlike others, so it is strange for them such an option as rejecting the russian gaza even prematurely earlier than they would like to do it is still possible because they were preparing for it this week experts have visited ukraine well, this week reported that the temporary russian occupation of the chornobyl nuclear power plant had caused something. they talked about what actually happened. well, it is recorded there. these occupiers probably received large doses of radiation. yes , an increase in radiation levels is recorded there, at the same time, despite the occupation, which is completed, so it is. period, the russians also left the territory of the chernobyl nuclear power plant, as we remember,
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even though they dug trenches there, they made some completely incomprehensible from the point of view of security and, in fact, the world's steps, but nevertheless logic, fortunately not it led to a disaster, and nevertheless, ukrainian high-ranking officials are saying that ukraine should introduce sanctions at the level of mothers for this nuclear terrorism, and the russian federation that these sanctions can be different from reducing representation in russia to demanding complete exclusion from participation in organizations and what does this give mrs. marko, in your opinion, how painful will it be for russia itself ? penetrated the whole situation step by step further club zhigubzhe and magotev in general stupidly scored a bolt, but what russia was doing here, we saw it from the reaction and it was not stupid, uh, they came to us, they saw something, no conclusions,
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nothing. - and nuclear reactors and all that stuff there were art attacks, it was recorded in the invitation to the zaporizhia nuclear power plant, this is just idiocy . sanctions against russia k unfortunately, the current leader is rich, he will not make it, he should leave the insert, we will stimulate these sanctions, mark savchuk, an energy expert, the head of the supervisory board at bubu, we are in touch with us on skype. life and now, when there is a moment of silence for those who died in the war, we will observe a moment of silence in memory of the ukrainian military and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war that was unleashed by
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