and for a long time, the criminality of smugglers and people who are definitely afraid to fight, and even more so with ukraine, and the last thing you mentioned about the special ukrainian-russian border. let me also remind you a little about what is happening there, and there is a huge flow of wounded people back to the russian federation and the hospitals are already in st. petersburg to st. petersburg, look on the map to see where he is, st. petersburg sash there to the north are killed by those russian soldiers whom putin threw into this aggressive war, wounded and quite badly to ask about another case, we understand that medvedchuk is in custody, medvedchuk is currently not being exchanged , we understand that medvedchuk was not a whole pool of people who served him, we understand that there are also a number of

financial, political and criminal circles in ukraine that were directly tied to the russian federation, some of them appeared in openly scandalous things, like , for example, a panderkach, and there were corresponding demands from the united states . medvedchuk and part of his environment are being searched. this will entail a serious investigation. will everything be limited to some kind of, you know, traditional floors, so that after all they will access the entire russian network, well, they should also access the entire russian network and stop funding this network a long time ago. i would like to remind you that in this criminal proceeding, not one, and in relation to medvedchuk and other persons, for one and a half years, that is, antina has in my opinion, it is possible and necessary to not release this evidence of the suspects

- not to release them to the next generation, you know the expression like sport fishing. and this time, during martial law, the court should be held to open where the evidence and the detainees and suspects and so on were presented. but the most important thing is that the state prosecutor from the office of the prosecutor general of ukraine came forward and presented the evidence on behalf of all of us, and the court finally decided the harshest in my opinion, verdicts and conclusions. this is how the machine should work, the more i repeat myself during martial law. changes to the criminal procedure code of ukraine so that this happens here and now well, what about, for example, the property that belongs not to the russian federation, but to those people who are part of the russian federation in ukraine but have russian, oh, ukrainian passports and those people well

they are just shady pawns, yes, but they are the owners of many strategic ukrainian companies, in particular, various oblenergos , various banks, the land was registered for them, we somehow do not hear anything about them, even though the ghost is russian from them, is there a chance to take and combine , so to speak, our position with regard to the kremlin and our position with regard to people who are implementing the kremlin's plans, but having a ukrainian passport does not matter . the decisions of the courts in cases of treason of each 509 well, it is a lot, and i assure you that in each of these criminal proceedings, the property and wealth and accounts and even

abroad, especially offshore, everything that was hidden, is known and documented life, these corrupt people are pro-russian traitors, that is also known, and court decisions are needed to confiscate it, including what is abroad according to the decision of the ukrainian court, then we will have the opportunity to return to the right place in the ukrainian budget to finance our defense and the armed forces of ukraine, this is the only the correct , only effective way was decided by some there kolya chop let's call it conditional yes and accordingly it will start to be decided on some unclear links or not no, i will tell you, i don't know, maybe not in kyiv, i will tell you what is the mood in kyiv? well, we have a completely different mood, we are all these days and nights here under russian bombs , especially the territorial defense, the fact that it stands, the ukrainians have changed a lot. the ira and the war broke the masks. the judge you know

will allow himself to meet or listen to someone decided no no no i know the true mood in this regard, things have changed because we have already had key moments in our recent history when it seemed like we should not live in the old way, as they say, we will allow ourselves more we can't, but unfortunately we periodically returned to not the best practices. thank you, mr. valentina valentina lyvaychenko, people's deputy of ukraine as deputy minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, ex-ordinary and plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in belarus, as from head of the security service of ukraine, eh, did you notice about medvedchuk ? i can't talk about the prosecutor general of ukraine, iryna vadyktova. there lived an ordinary woman, she worked as a domestic worker, globally, nothing special, but during the investigation of the criminal proceedings in the domestic workers conducted a court-sanctioned search , seized $467,000 and 87,000 euros, and again you say that it's too early to ring the bell, and suddenly the inheritance was borrowed by someone, accumulated, sold something, this is

life, yes, she is so self-interested, lucky, thoughtful, a modern domestic worker, a medvedchuk, the term was completed, maybe she cleaned it very well house or maybe she just dragged the money. of the azovstal medical complex, the citadel is now mariupol , which continues to cover our defenders and the wounded and civilians. congratulations glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. good day. in fact, there was information that there is apparently a room underground where the wounded and our fighters were probably also russian prisoners and civilians. the room, which in particular was used as an operating room even in those crazy conditions, it was subjected to bombing,

destroyed, in fact, it can no longer be used for this purpose, and uh, actually, you can will you provide some kind of detailed information on the degree of destruction of the azostal as of now. unfortunately, i cannot provide directly detailed information for various reasons. i hope we understand everything that this information can be used in different sources and by different forces. so, of course , we see that there are more than 60 for days, the plant has been under constant aimed fire from the russian federation, and shelling is taking place from absolutely all types of weapons, from tanks, artillery, planes, and even ships, and for more than 60 days, our walls have been standing - this is a great merit, and the people who built the plants today are the ones who built the plants. unfortunately, the plant

was not only orthodox in the world, but also with its people, its heroes, and finally, the armed forces of ukraine, which are located there, and the defense structures were indeed built on the words of our employees meet all the standards of civil defense and industrial security, but nevertheless, not a single defensive structure can withstand such aimed fire a-a unfortunately this is the situation today, but we understand that we understand that there are children, and indeed the heroism of the resilience of these people can only be envied by all of us and we pray that they would live . on the other hand, this is a deliberate war crime committed by the regular units of the russian federation, here is information from a supporter of

the occupying power, the newly appointed gauleiter of mariupol on the part of the russians, mr. ivashchenko, who stated that they will not allow the restoration of azovstal, it is about representatives of the russian residency, which for some reason in our country is called the dpr and the lpr. how can you comment on this? i will say. so, in the case of the person in charge of this person , mrs. ivashchenko, the security service of ukraine has already opened a case on suspicion of fraud, and i think that is absolutely justified, and we will monitor the development of these events. this person in the city of mariupol has a certain negative reputation . the enemy and they ask to tell about what they will

do. well, why are there such statements regarding the fact that the plant will be restored in the last few days, then everything is very simple. because the stalemate for today is a symbol of the subjugated ukraine of the unsubdued mariupol. and this symbol is for them it's some guy in the throat who will certainly destroy it, be careful about this p and vashchenko, you know that he has some kind of strange reputation, it's just that most of our tv viewers don't have any information about his biography, it's just that there are some i don't know a couple make sketches, outline this character in the city of mariupol, who knew there was a company of azov machine builders there, a machine of a construction company that was cut into scrap metal and many constructions were taken out of the city of mariupol uhu please tell me

, mr. ivan, why azovstal is so confidently being destroyed, trying to be destroyed by the russian federation we have already outlined this certain symbolism , just like the whole of mariupol, mariupol was and still is an example of how it can to develop a city that actually refused to go to russian peace in 2014, and you know this contrast between , for example, donetsk luhansk and ukrainian mariupol, ah, it was very striking, so destroy mariupol . i think it was. however, we are aware that the people of mariupol, a large number of these people left the city in different directions and under different circumstances for completely different reasons. the employees of your company are exhausted, are there

any contacts with these people, understanding what they need now, are they currently being provided by yours, and this is also specific targeted help metanvist organized humanitarian headquarters in the cities, the presence of the company, i am in the city of zaporozhye, where i will say yes an assistance center for our workers, because all the displaced persons from the city of mariupol come to zaporizhia, and a center for displaced persons and a rehabilitation center for our employees are organized at the zaporozhye base, where qualified psychologists also help psychological onima-bantyorov humanitarian and functioning metainvest career centers that help our employees he is not working and we have not yet released him to find a job at the

operating enterprises of the meta-news group, such as zaporozhstalkami ot steel and the kryvyi rih site in gokolka, so here such work is carried out on a large-scale basis, it is carried out individually with each person, and the recreation facilities that are located in these cities today are completely reorganized under the place of arrival, that is, the temporary place of residence of our employees, they were moved, eh, the mariupol gauleiter declared that the azovstal plant will not be able to be restored. how do you assess the prospects for the restoration of the azovstal plant after it returns to our warehouse and under our control, you know in 1942, for sure also, the germans entered the city of mariupol. unfortunately, mariupol was not under occupation, but later the red army liberated mariupol

. что будет всё exactly the same, only now the ukrainian army will liberate its native land, its native mariupol, and as the shareholder of the mentanvesteri group above akhmetov has already stated, he said categorically that mariupol will be ukrainian, which means that the mariupol plant will be restored in any case and will work for the glory of mariupol and of the entire ukrainian economy, one more question, this is already more extensive, you, as a person who knows exactly how the ukrainian economy functions, know the main points of our economy, let's say so, at least until february 24. at the same time, once again, i draw attention to denisenko's post 1, who noted that russia is currently engaged in, in addition to everything it claims, the destruction of the ukrainian people, it is also industrializing, that is, to disable our

economic capabilities, to destroy large factories at which the specific weight of our economy actually held for a longer time, this is the goal of the russian federation . moments in order to knock the economic soil out from under our feet, you know, in fact, russian aggression has an absolutely vicious nature and says that they are exclusively hitting infrastructure objects. the propaganda actually declares that mariupol is there in the prime minister and many other cities such as chernihiv and how the jeep was hit by an air-er missile attack the day before yesterday. i

would like to say that unfortunately they hit absolutely all objects industrialists should not be separated somehow to idealize them, these are completely barbaric methods that lead to the complete destruction of all objects and the death, usually of people. thank you, mr. ivan, for what you do for the employees of your company and for this analysis on the air of the espresso tv channel ivan goldvenko, hr director and the administration of the azovstal medical complex was working now on the air of our marathon. well, i would like to note that we are waiting for the address of the american president joseph biden, it will also be dedicated to the ukrainian topics and as soon as this performance starts. so we think we'll go to the concert. well, yes, yes, yes, yes, whatever, let's give him

the floor. meanwhile, we have another conversation planned with us on the phone. colleagues, are you in touch with us tetyana khutor, head of the analytical center, institute of legislative ideas ms. tetyana, we congratulate you glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, i congratulate you, well, what, except that we defend ourselves in every way, and legislative initiatives are now aimed mostly at the relief of all our defense capabilities it is also important to understand the consequences of many legislative ideas and initiatives. analyzing ukrainian legislation, one gets the impression that in almost every case of military operations, a military commander can be held criminally liable, especially if the result is a loss of equipment or manpower, and precisely for such cases and changes and additions regarding

combat immunity are needed, tell us a little more in detail. how do you see the development of the legislative basis in this aspect, thank you, thank you for your word, really you have absolutely spent a lot of time now, and the draft laws are registered since the beginning of the war. the legislative field has changed very significantly. our analytical center, the institute of legislative ideas , has been analyzing legislation for more than 6 years, but what is happening now is significantly different from what it was. in peacetime, we dreamed of some draft laws, and only in our dreams could we allow ourselves to think about them, and some legislation, some legislation, for which laws and drafts even in our wildest dreams could we dream of such a question of war from ukrainian legislation, it has been since 2014. it has been raised more like this. but nevertheless, combat

immunity. that is, this is a construction that is known to foreign legislation. the law was adopted, it was adopted on march 15, and it concerns the fact that military personnel, that is, those who defend ukraine, not only military personnel and officials, but also military command and ordinary people, they are to some extent exempted from responsibility for certain actions that in peacetime could qualify as a crime, but at the same time during war they are no longer so, what is it about, first of all, we are talking about the law on the so-called combat immunity, if we are talking about the first category of persons, let 's talk in a broad sense, this about all of us

, yes, about all the people who have er, maybe there are weapons of all those people who hmm maybe can um can become the object of attack and from the invaders er from the russian er occupiers what we can or can't to commit murder under normal conditions - this is a crime and we would be responsible for it , at the same time, now, according to the new law, we are exempted from this to some extent, but even if we kill someone or a task is not our own, so let's not talk about let's draw someone more specific , if a citizen of ukraine takes a weapon and meets an enemy with a weapon, participates in combat , he will not be responsible for this, the correct formulation is absolutely correct and not only in combat. it is also important here, because not only in combat, what is one interested in, and the law is in that what if you your actions

aimed at deterring the armed aggression of the russian federation or the aggression of any other country, that is, it is also important to understand that it does not necessarily have to be a russian soldier. therefore, this also frees us to a certain extent, the economy, detail the laboratory technician, if not, it is not proven to fight, ukrainian citizens have, we do not have the right it is not easy because we understand that the level, so to speak, of social psychosis is quite high, the level of paranoia also increases, we understand that people are sometimes unstable if they especially take it to heart temple 200-300 such stories happen and here he will see someone who will appear to be his enemy, you know, and that person can be well, it's just, well, freddy fire, after all, it's all called we are afraid under such circumstances, it's absolutely right that you are afraid of the

law before what uh actually if something seems to you , but in fact it would be reasonable for you under normal conditions you could expect e that uh this threat is usually reasonable an ordinary person cannot assess it as a threat under normal conditions then you will still have to respond according to the criminal law of the law, that is, what we are saying is that any damage you inflict on the enemy, even if it seems imaginary to you, it must be proportional to the damage and actually proportional to the real circumstances that are around and you cannot just shoot at any who you can't shoot, your i don't know a comrade or not a comrade or a stranger who seemed suspicious to you, it's actually a release of responsibility if you

shoot at the enemy or you damage property that doesn't even belong to the enemy if there are cars ordinary civilians, or you see some building that usually does not belong to the enemy, but it can also be affected by your actions under normal conditions, you should take this into account and evaluate how much, well , not even what to evaluate, but try not to damage this property, but due to new circumstances you should not, the legislator makes us think and clearly allows us not to think about the damage to the property, not to think about the fact that we, er, what damage can we declare er, in short, if i see that interventionists have dug in my neighbor's house and er are lying then i can with with a clear conscience, burn that house here, too, a moment of consideration. you must evaluate there is one enemy, and the

rest of your neighbors are sitting there, five neighbors and one enemy, and their house, in this case, you must evaluate what you need to save the lives of your neighbors regardless of do you like these neighbors or not, and regardless of whether you slept there, burn the house down or not, but in these cases you also have to be careful because the law still obliges you to assess the situation, you don't need to throw a grenade into a house with civilians and where is one enemy or you don't need to throw a grenade into a crowd of people at a rally if there is just one representative among them there is an occupier yes that is, you have to evaluate this law makes it possible what is the plus of this law what is the plus of the new legislation because now you are not responsible for the death the enemy, the legislator says your life is more valuable, the life of ukrainians is more valuable. don't think about

the death of a person who brings us to our land. this is the main idea of ​​the law, but it does not release you from responsibility for that the damage that you can inflict on ordinary civilians if it is not proportionate to that in each situation i think that it will be evaluated er differently and differently well depending on the circumstances it is true you er decipher the concept of the enemy well it is meant that he must be in the uniform of the occupying army or there he must be some of their military personnel and so on. well, of course, if we are talking about military personnel, it is clear that if they are designated as enemies, both in the uniform of the russian army and or equated, then of course it is about the enemy is not just like that in the law, i also pay attention to the fact that your actions must be aimed

at the age that the jump and the deterrence of weapons on the aggression of the russian federation or the aggression of another country, what can we think about so when we talk about another country, that is, there are facts about that there are risks among individual soldiers, and there are risks from the side of belarus itself, there are risks from our other borders, that is why the legislator universally approached this today it is russia, tomorrow it is russia with someone else because here you basically have free hands, your hands are untied if there are even some russian military personnel there, they changed their clothes and that is, it is also you, it does not affect the qualification of your actions in any way, this is the second time, i think that it is necessary to go directly to combat immunity, what does this mean, because we were just talking about ordinary people, about us with you, but in addition to the fact that you and i are civilians, there are also directly military and combat immunity is

not even about the right to simply shoot someone and defend one's life, combat immunity exempts you from responsibility both criminally and administrative and civil for conditional errors military errors and errors of the military leadership that is, what are we talking about, yes, these permissible errors are losses of personnel, are losses of property, are losses of equipment, are losses of a different nature. in fact, this is what can be lost. well, i think that very well-known situations when, for example, there is a combat brigade, it tries to do something, and then it happened to them that there was some kind of car or a drone or something. for certain reasons, for example, there was a rap standing there. the drone fell, the drones can find it. well it is necessary to bear civil liability for such losses because they are such objective er normal er

expectations of losses we can say the same. one way or another. you understand that the line is very thin if there are no clearly defined qualification criteria . well, accordingly, here we have to wait for the court's decision . you can't write everything down in the law, and that's also obvious. yes, on the one hand, on the other hand, we say that we have wide discretionary powers, yes, but in the conditions of war, in the conditions that we are in now, i will tell you the side of the laws that are adopted. complete discretion, and now discretion is not perceived as an element for abuse, and to a greater extent, we

hope, i believe that it is not accepted for abuse, it is accepted for untying hands, that would be us showing trust in our government, both local and central, that here we are not wasting time on unnecessary and maybe necessary bureaucracy, we do not spend days and months on writing specific provisions of specific bills at the same time we give the opportunity to protect and give certain good tatyana, thank you very much for this blessing, that is, it will be easier and more peaceful for the boys to fight the enemy and not be distracted on one or another bureaucracy tetyana khutor, the head of the analytical center, the institute of legislative ideas, worked on the live broadcast of the information and analytical marathon of the espresso tv channel. of the american president joseph biden, it will concern our country, and in a few

moments our colleagues from radio svoboda will join antina's live broadcast, for literally 10 seconds, what do you think biden will say? colossal consequences for the russian federation if it begins, so to speak, to raise degrees with calation, it will assure that the entire international community is united on our side, with the exception of those countries that are, so to speak, pro-russian by satellites thank you antin borkovskiy my name is khrystyna yatskiv more radio svoboda greetings - this is freedom life my name is serhiy stetsenko we talk for an hour about the 64th day of russia's large-scale invasion of ukraine, in particular about escalation on the front and weapons from the usa, we pray on the pages of radio svoboda in facebook and on youtube as well as on the air of the espresso tv channel, the russian army is building up