that this is the prospect of a certain period of preparation , today it is necessary to stop, it is desirable to surround and destroy, and for this we will not be able to do it alone with walls, javelins, corsairs and tanks, so i would very much like us to be aware of the situation, this is not a transition to the onslaught of the system of standards - this is just a forced step for that in order for us to withstand the entire defense, we must use this forced step, we must take it as a certain base and move forward, so it seems to me that today it is very important decisions that should be taken by the higher political leadership ukraine has no doubts about the possibility of any negotiations with the occupier, which would relate to territorial integrity, which would relate to our movement to the european union, which would relate to our ukrainian defense system, when the city flies higher, the city

will take exactly such a position, and believe that relations with nato will be much, much simpler and with parties too, we need to put pressure on these countries to demonstrate to them and it is very right that today during the visits we show ukrainian politicians the genocide in buch, the events in borodyanka, all that what is the rashisti doing in the occupied territories and we must today very clearly ask nato the question we are fighting today for the values ​​that you stand for that is why we must fight together and how long the war will last today no one will say day week month year 30 years today it is very important that in we had a clear understanding of how the war should end. because when we say that the war will end with an armistice, it means that it will start again in a week, in a month, in a year, the war will end with what we have to return

our territories, we must enter the european community and we must enter the north atlantic defense alliance, this will really be the end of the war, and today, moving away from rammstein, we can already set ourselves exactly such tasks, however, at the same time, various information appears in parallel regarding the negotiations, the continuation of the negotiations, in particular, now - the first violin is played by turkish diplomats who, in particular, if i am not mistaken, the minister of foreign affairs or the prime minister even talked about the possibility of a meeting between putin and zelensky in the near future in the end, neither zelenskyi nor putin confirmed this. nevertheless, there was such information. let's see the story. what is happening now on the negotiation front, so to speak, and then we will discuss it in the studio. zelenskyi may meet with putin in the near future

. at least this is what the turkish defense minister stated in luz, president erdoğan met with mr. putin and mr. zelensky several times. at these meetings, the president is trying to achieve a ceasefire as soon as possible and sit down at the negotiating table. we hope, despite some difficulties in the coming days, it is possible that the two leaders will be able to meet in general. ukraine and russia have already sat down at the negotiating table six times since the beginning of the full -scale russian invasion of ukraine. negotiations with ukraine if before the big invasion he said that it is impossible to negotiate with the official kyiv until now during the meeting with the un secretary general he said that russia is not giving up on the negotiations, we are still counting

to the fact that we have 10 heads of state on the diplomatic track, we are conducting negotiations, we do not refuse them, uh , moreover, at the negotiations in istanbul, and i know that you were only there, i only talked with president rodogan today, we managed to achieve a sufficiently serious, serious, er, serious break, you will be asked as a representative of the authorities, er, what about the negotiations. when will they be resumed and what can affect it, or should zelensky meet with putin, in your opinion, if i allow literally a few words on the previous topic because a lot of opinions were expressed. and i also like the close comparison that can often be heard now with the fact that this anti-putin coalition has been formed, or even strengthened, in parallel with the anti-hitler coalition, because in fact, in fact, this

decisive attack has already acquired such an image collective evil is already in the perception of the world, and in fact the world saw that the group united the worst practices like hitler's and stalin's, i kill people through terror, and this is actually a struggle not just for some part of the territory. and this the fight against the global evil of the world evil, which in fact cannot be defeated by an ordinary truce. and i want to express special thanks to two countries, the united states of america and the united kingdom, which in fact, both organizationally and possibly geopolitically, contributed the most to what really 43 countries were represented at the level of ministers of defense and heads of general staffs and coordinated their actions, and i want to say that this coordination is not only about the supply of weapons,

but also about other resource support of our state deterring the aggressor at the international level and i want to draw attention to the fact that you can often hear that putin cannot be cornered because he is inadequate and dangerous, he has nuclear weapons and as a dictator he cannot lose, but believe me, we can talk now about a certain break in the strategic plan, not yet in the military, but even such an anti-putin coalition can never lose in its life, so i am sure that the victory of ukraine and europe and the civilized world - it is a matter of time regarding the negotiations, they are called not through negotiations, but through consultations, that is, they are there online. the last face-to-face meeting was held in istanbul, we all know about it. at the end of march, nothing concrete was agreed

upon, the views of the parties were conveyed, and i will tell you that at this stage, in principle, i do not i understand the reasons for announcing a possible meeting of the presidents , firstly, it is difficult to imagine it against the background of the active hostilities that are currently taking place in the east and south of our country, and secondly, i want to recall the words of our president that attacks and the murders in mariupol or, for example, the holding of some fake er pseudo-referendums and some announcements of er fake republics, this is a cross in the negotiations, and there are signs of both the first and the second , so i don’t just have an understanding of some date, i basically don’t have a strategic idea understanding how it is possible to agree on something. at this stage, there are more than proposals. as far as i understand, it is clear that i have participants in the negotiations, but the proposals are diametrically opposed, that is, russia

clearly emphasizes territorial claims in order to it seems that crimea should be recognized as russian by some independence of fake republics, that is, it is not at all a subject of discussion on our part and cannot be, that is, the territory and as well as other things that will be contrary to our national interests cannot be the subject of negotiations. i would like to draw attention to because in support of ukraine, which has now actually broken the myth of the invincible russian army, and this is really the merit of our armed forces, the merit, i would add, of volunteers , volunteers, and well, just a fantastic rally ukrainians, she broke this stereotype and allowed the world to believe that we can't just

win . and when we will be given because it is also now listen to our er troops listen to our military and political leadership er medicine where at the bottom and er i will tell you that the enemy also i agree with the opinion that you cannot underestimate this you know how in sports when you go out eh well, i'm there with a fight practiced greco-roman, you go out on the carpet and if you underestimated your opponent or you have a worse moral and psychological spirit than he has, then i'm sorry. well, you are already doomed to defeat. thank god , we have a much better situation with this. on the ground, instead, there is a complete demoralization of us, in fact, there is a clear understanding, including that it is necessary to emphasize that due to the active exchange of intelligence data with western partners, there is an understanding of the plans and capabilities of the enemy, but it is not necessary

to forget that the huge amount of enemy manpower and military equipment is now concentrated in the east, and here in the plan. the enemy and this will surely be one of the most difficult periods in the south-east of our country because literally today and tomorrow the lend-lease for ukraine will be announced, this is precisely the mechanism and instrument of the rammstein agreements on the acceleration of arms supplies and by the way, not only armaments, but also other food and medicines are foreseen, but the fact is that it will not happen tomorrow, it is these weapons, and here you need to be aware of a clear

strategy. i am sure that these are tactical advances of the enemy should not really be perceived as a defeat. strategically, globally, with the help of the civilized world, we will definitely win, and the victory is the defense of our territorial integrity. is it euro-atlantic integration or another question? politicians in wartime. nevertheless , information appeared today that your colleague oleksiy kovalev was expelled from the servant of the people party, he remained in the occupied kherson region and according to his explanations, he is trying to work as a humanitarian there , but in the appeal of the servant of the people party, it is said that he is suspected in treason. what can you tell us about this situation? it might be more palatable to say that we really had an internal discussion. i am not a member of the party, a servant of the people. but i am a representative of a faction.

discussion and in fact discussion and polling of people's deputies who perceives the situation that one of our colleagues was somehow able with impunity to either agree or visit the occupied territories. i managed to find some kind of understanding. i don't know the details. but who relates to this, and a collective decision was made that it is obvious that specialized special services should also deal with the activities of this people's deputy in order to to establish the truth of what he does there and what is happening, but he cannot now be a representative of any faction or party, and it is an absolutely logical decision. and regarding the details of what he does there , even internally, there is some version from him. there was no direct communication with him, but i

understand that they tried to communicate with him with the leadership of the faction and obviously did not get answers to all the questions i wanted, it is impossible not to cooperate with the aggressors on the kherson i was asked about the case of the sumy region, for example, i believe that it is really impossible for the aggressor to agree on something, he began to explain that he had some business there, he was trying to protect the business. well, this raises doubts at least, and at the most, this, uh, could be collaborationism in many of the elders of many of the heads of the tergromat, the deputy mayors, those who did not evacuate, but were taken away, kept, well, they say so in the territory of crimea some of them can work for the exchange fund now on the territory of kherson oblast, only volunteers are very audacious. by the way, they put them in

pits in a wild place. some of them were killed, but definitely not a public person, a politician, that’s why you went to the parliament to undergo self-purification, this person went to collaboration , and she. well, she does not have the right to be a deputy of ukraine at this time, people's deputy from svoboda oksana savchuk registered a draft law on cleansing the government of founders and members of anti-ukrainian political parties, and on communist the party of ukraine and about the party of regions. there is a list of all those who were previously recognized by the national security and defense council of ukraine as temporarily ceasing their activities in ukraine. lyubomyr melnychuk, what should this decision give us? adopted at the beginning of our independence , so did our neighbors, the poles, the baltics, that is, the cleansing of the government from anti-state forces, that is,

the process of lustration in ukraine has dragged on in ukraine, and freedom seems to be registering this for the third time draft law with an effort to make ukrainian parliamentarians decide and, er, carry out this necessary reform, well, they are convinced that, er, such parties as, er, the party of regions of the russian federation are not political parties, the sharia party, and so on. there is a whole list of these anti-ukrainian forces and they have nothing to do with the competitiveness of the political process in ukraine, in the end, since the communist party, which is ultimately banned, is the center of ukrainian power, which should be banned, those convicted of their activities should be recognized this is the kind that harms our country, and people who were related to these parties do not have the right to hold positions in the state. after all, this is not a new

practice. it is a practice that was used by many countries of our neighbors. returning to the uh-uh uh-uh situation that we discussed. uh, you know about the turning point in the war. well, it seems to me that the key turning point was in general, the first day of a large-scale tuesday when the whole world saw that ukraine and ukrainians would fight, that our army uh- this is the army that can protect ours state because, well, time goes by very quickly. we forget about how uh, european countries, in the end, uh, well, they put an emphasis on negotiations because they thought that ukraine would fall, when they sent their uh, their military to evacuate our government, when they thought about the fact that, in principle, we

reduce the risks during surrender. let's be honest, no one, by and large, very few people in the world believe in our army, in our victory, and we won this faith by showing the whole world that we will defend our country and the second turning point the moment is not even a military one because it what happened in rammstein is more of a political moment because the demonstration of this broad coalition cannot fail to have serious consequences, this is a photo from rammstein, it will enter the history textbook and the question is what will be written under it or is it the coalition that stopped tyrant, is this a coalition that, god forbid , i absolutely do not believe in, uh, lost because uh,

with such actions, they put their reputation as a country on the line, very influential right forces, and in fact, this is uh, a very serious step, and i am convinced that the speech it is about the victory of ukraine and not only the victory of ukraine in terms of the restoration of its territories. i think that the real victory of the whole world will be in the collapse of russia as an evil empire, because even after we return our territory, even after we reach there political victories, this world terrorist will blackmail not only her ukraine, but also the entire civilized world, this prison of nations must be destroyed, and i think that understanding has come to the entire civilized world, and it is the

illustration in rammstein that will contribute to this wide the coalition will contribute to the fact that the evil empire fell. i once slept, after all, the third reich. by the way, putin has united much more people against him. this is definitely true and i think that many of you know that in the end we will call a spade a spade in germany there is a stratum of politicians who were very influential in this country and had very good relations, supported obviously by finances with the russian federation, who believed in that well, not everything is so clear there and so on and so on. but it seems to me that the society of all

these countries, including germany, makes it clear to its politicians that if you do not show yourself now, it is right if you do not support ukraine and you will cease to be influential in this country, we will simply throw you out, look at what is happening in the squares of european cities, that's why there are actually such tectonic changes that are happening now in world politics, and on the one hand, we see a terrorist state against which it has united the whole civilized world the whole civilized world can not lose by definition taras batenko i wanted to add what my colleagues started about collaborationism, you know i think we have a very short, very little time on this topic regarding the steps of the parliament in this direction yes because something has already done to the end not completed regarding the fight against collaborationist political parties that exist in ukraine not only in the parliament, but there is a decision of the national security council of march 18 on

the list of pro-russian political parties and what has recently increased in number and about the ban on activity in particular, we suspended the activities of the psg and the parliamentary party, traveling as factions in the parliament. but at the same time, they very quickly once again renamed the same permanent resident parliamentary group and then they go and vote . we registered a parliamentary appeal thanking our colleagues as well together with european solidarity as the voice and servant of the people and so on to the head of the verkhovna rada of ukraine that the regulatory committee always at least until the end of the war, it is forbidden to attend planning meetings, to participate in any working bodies, unfortunately, the legislation now regarding the legislative barriers cannot take away the mandate from them. although there are registered bills and ms. oksana savchuk and mr. dunde there with other colleagues, it is about take away as mandates, well , those people who actually went to moscow against the population there for 2-3 years, met with putin

medved, the others are pushing the implementation of the minsk agreements here, this boyko is a duck, rabinovych and so on further, those who go with mandates, it’s not only about medvedchuk. we can’t they take away the mandates, well, all of them, due to the fact that there are clearly proposals, legislative conditions, but to forbid them to attend meetings, well, at a time when we accept a critical opportunity, and they hide behind it like chameleons, that is putin's canned goods i believe that we should put an end to this. and here we are the last to register a draft law with colleagues proposing to add amendments to the law on the fight against political parties that would ban the mentioned list of political parties that are now prohibited to participate in the future after the war if they were previously candidates or were deputy factions of groups of different levels of councils to be nominated to participate in any elected bodies of independent ukraine for a very long time it tolerated this all because they appeared on tv channels variety shows and said those things that caused the opposition of normal people who

listened, but well, nobody could do anything about it just like that, it was just different and all of them, look there drozdov about the 30 years of the existence of this states, that's why it's actually like that. look. well, in general, the topic of co-collaboration is, for me, kind of, well, just a fatal topic, because it seems to me that this is the topic of the interpretation of collaborationism during the war. and i was immediately struck by the wording of all those decisions referred to by my colleagues there, suspending something, not suspending it means that the war will end, then let them resume their activities and let them call 10 more soldiers to our land, well, that is, i think that when, if not now, this is the historical moment when, well, there are no options, because everything

before the war, well, before the war, before this. from the widespread invasion, because it is our 108 years old, when topics were raised there. i very often spoke in this studio when it was possible to criticize the government very much there, there was no martial law, then everyone also rushed at it, as they said, after all, these are different political views , you have to respect the other point of view tu tu tu and they forever hid behind the right declared there no quoted a bunch of declaration on human rights on na their political position and so on and freedom of speech have always been woven into this by all of medvedchuk's henchmen and it was always hidden behind those screens about the need to have a so-called other point of view on it turned out that the other point of view is the point of view of your killer and now we have from the regime pauses, where is the word to suspend, to forget forever, eternity, and to rename it to an ordinary word, which, according to the law on collaborationism, even in the second world war, sounded like ban, this is the

unanimous interpretation of that word, no one stops anything, if not now, during the war itself i will ban any activity on the territory of ukraine of all collaborationist open political forces and media holdings, because these are information troops and others, and forget about this topic, these discussions, because i am this law on collaborationism, which, by the way, seems to me to be no more year seems to be lying in the parliament, and i remember how a year ago e there, there he is there, there are amendments , he is lying, and i remember how they puffed up their cheeks very much there and the parliamentary majority, what a prick, what good fellows , what are they not there, how and what, and this one too the law is somewhere to itself it's been a year already, and all in all, this law needs to be amended in such a way that it will not be messed with, and which , using the unprecedented language of martial law, is not peaceful conditions, where there is freedom of assembly, freedom, this

is martial law, where, well, martial law is an exclusively legal reality and under the noise excuse me, it sounds like a simple ban on the group's activities. and this includes informational activities and propaganda activities. you can enter all the forces that are frankly collaborative and not play around with suspension in some other things. the ministry of justice to ban, take away, cancel the activity, condemn, and accordingly, then there will be no misinterpretations in the future in the constitutional court, at the top of the court, where will the former members of the party of regions go, they will say well, what if it was a sin to be a member of the party of regions if the party of regions is not banned or condemned ukraine as a certain political force, name it, i don't know, terrorist character or ancient or subversive against statehood and so on, then it seems to me that everything will take its place and we will not and will not talk

about this, a regulation will simply apply, a law that will simply apply and that's it, goodbye. well, i repeat. and when the word is yes in the west, please , you can just think about the level of absurdity that happened in our country a few years ago, when there was a parliament, when there were parliamentary elections , medvedchuk and rabinovych went to putin. well, there they held a press conference, he expressed his support for the elections, then these people came to ukraine, campaigned, became deputies, and then secret reports of ukrainian generals took place of the army about the situation on the fronts, this is what i am talking about after the occupation of crimea, that is, no one thought of arresting these people, no one thought of opening criminal cases, mutiny, rationalism, such

catastrophic consequences could have been avoided in many, many cases, so i hope that at least now everyone will understand that all the stakes will be deployed and the fight against collaborationism will take place properly. the price is too high. you know one more fact. it is always especially interesting now that the verkhovna rada is holding closed meetings. no one announces the meeting about them, there are no live broadcasts but nevertheless, deputies who were in the opposition platform during their lifetime can come to them, well, absurd, well, we just cut them off from the verkhovna rada, you don’t let the decision be regulated by the head of the verkhovna rada, shufrych really continues to lead victory to the door of ukraine collaborator maybe we are all wrong about this kovalev who stayed in kherson shevchenko maybe then when that gentleman bought the

fourth channel eh well, i left the channel right then and i remember how eh they flew very hard during you can't criticize the state of martial law. but that was . before that, they swooped in and started telling, uh, that it's not possible to make public some instructions, who were put forward as conditions to criticize, who to praise, and so on . now that's forgotten. was supposed to serve as a final one, something can be done with a push. i am probably responding to what was said, i will say two remarks first, and then regarding the parliament, the first remark regarding the law on collaborationism , these initiatives were still registered in the previous the convocation of the parliament and there was not enough political will, it is obvious that when it was not enough to vote for such things, and many people, including

me, talked about it long before that, about the need to have such a law, the war in our country had really been going on for 8 years and until moreover, the point here is not even so much and not only that you find out who the collaborators of the city are, but also that he bear responsibility so that all the assets of the guides of this aggressive imperialist movement and the process that is taking place in our country should also be to confiscate, nationalize, and, er, attract for the needs of the state, and er, we have an example of the banning of the communist party. that is, we have actually taken this path already in its time, well, a certain precedent has been created, now we are talking about what i will tell you, that there is a solution of the nsdc, but in the legal according to the law