overview, there is insufficient evidence that a certain number of people are engaged in the colonization of the kherson region, so i want to say that there are no khersons on mars, therefore , it is possible to colonize kherson - it is simply impossible to do in 30 years of independence. kherson has completely changed, yes, it is russian-speaking, so many people speak russian, have relatives, etc. russia and so on, but when they come to you and how are the occupiers, well , you can’t do anything about it, so really a large number of people left, we understand why, because there is a large the number of people is patriotic, uh, she has some uh, her obligations, and that's why she ca n't stay there, and when i hear about the fact that some activists, some famous people, politicians simply disappeared. unfortunately, and until now, we don't have they are in touch with them, but a large part of the

patriotic kherson people remained , and you even saw how they left yesterday . people really don't want to deal with the occupiers. you know , the border is not even geographical. system of values, the main asset of ukraine , including kherson, is the freedom of people, sometimes even with such an anarchic flavor. yes, because people are really free people in their essence, so the people of kherson - these are the people who will never accept torture and will not accept the possibility when their will grab and impose another language, on the other hand, we see that russia is spreading the network of its occupation administrations, there are collaborators of the same s-strymousov, and so on. and we understand that this is a number of people who, in particular, orientate the occupying power in the repressions against the people of kherson, it is

clear, well, they have no other way, but a critical number of people, it can be 570 people for the whole of kherson, who are ready for this collaboration, but the critical mass of people is absolutely not involved in this, people do not want this and that is why they do not want to win this victory over people, over their vision, over their understanding, over their feelings, to do it well, it’s definitely impossible, that’s why there are formal contexts, painting tools, but when you have a critical mass of people, and that’s 90, in my opinion, 95, 97% of kherson people don’t want to accept it it will be impossible to implement this, who is the difference between what happened eight years ago, people do not perceive the occupation, everything is here full stop, if it were not difficult, it is not painful for me to go through uh, we

communicate with a lot of people, people are thinking about leaving this uh- the prisons, which today , unfortunately, have such forms, and they are thinking about the return of ukraine after all. people are waiting for the support of the central government. people are waiting for the support of the armed forces. people want the ukrainian government to return to the territory of the kherson region. mr. oleksandr, they are also in a certain information vacuum. more precisely, it is not a vacuum, it is an isolation into which only information that is beneficial to the russian federation is admitted. this has been going on for at least several weeks. i understand that this has a great effect on the psyche. well, it is clear that this is pure zombification, but i will tell you that a lot of people know how to find alternative

information. we have all formed an educated nation. er, and a critical mass of people, yes, there are really very old people and so on who do not use other alternative sources of information, there are, nevertheless, i know for sure that among the people of kherson there is a fear that er, the worst thing is a repetition of the history of mariupol somewhere in kherson or in the kherson region and this is absolutely logical. this is human and this is security. however, they do not want to. and it is normal to want to avoid it . kherson region that the armed forces of ukraine will displace the occupiers with all the accompanying consequences let's put it this way, which is normal in the conditions of war, no matter how it

sounds, but if you look at the eternal position of kherson, you will understand that uh, i agree with some political experts here, kherson is on the right the banks of the dnipro and kherson are located in such a way that either there will be super big battles or it will be a bag for the occupiers, so if the armed forces of ukraine will approach kherson, then i am 90% sure that the aggressor will have to just get out of kherson and leave it, otherwise they will just stay in this cauldron, and in my opinion, it is better for them to leave through the antonov bridge than to stay in kherson and have big problems and stay in childbirth, well, with you, so they will not heroically defend their position, but there is another issue of another plan, in particular, it is about the expropriation of grain from the kherson region, this good old practice in

quotation marks, the soviet practice ended with the holodomor in ukraine, and here the question is for what purpose do you think they are trying to take away the holy in people are talking about grain well, the language is simple economic language well, you know, when any army came, let's read the history of any army that came to another territory, it was engaged in margaret eh, this is the natural feelings of people eh who come and fight, they understand that they can lose health, life, and everything else, and that's why they do it at any small opportunity, it's not normal , it should be under control, but it's a war, and there , well, let's start from 1900, from 1240, when baty came to kyivan rus well, he came and what are they were doing the same thing we are doing now,

take it, what kind of information about the explosions yesterday in the center of occupied kherson, eh, once again, russian propaganda accuses the armed forces of ukraine of shelling the tv tower, eh, well, look, eh, there were explosions the nature of the explosions and so on. well, many people believe that it was a big provocation, because well, i can't, you know, for reasons of security. as they say, but it was practically in the center. this explosion broke windows in many cities. postage stamp and children's kindergarten, all the more so, at one time my daughter, who was still young, used to go and so on, that is, it was damaged, well, buildings were damaged and so on. as they say, thank god, no one died .

part of the e-e was hit by this rocket, but the funeral institution wanted to read you about the situation with your kherson university and teachers, whether the occupiers commit acts of aggression against them or kidnap teachers and in general how do you plan to restore the work of the university, see according to by the order of the minister, hmm. a week ago, a decision was made that since it is not possible to work with the register from the occupied part of the territory, we work with edeba, we work with the treasurers, and so on. you we work with its rector igor and yevgen what uh-uh with his colleagues we held a joint meeting of academic councils we launched these processes and we are dealing with uh-uh what about uh-uh what

as for our student teachers, i don't have any facts that, at this moment, there were moments a month ago when one of our teachers was seriously injured . during one of the actions that the whole civilized world saw when our people went out - came out with flags and so on, he was injured, he was captured, beaten and so on, that is, this fact was definitely uh, everything else the university now works remotely, we have classes we fully spend, yes, indeed, some of the students work in the washington regime, when they receive tasks, they answer them, our main task is how we see it, to finish the academic year, to complete the curriculum, all the courses that are graduating now, this is first of all a bachelor's degree, we should

conduct a national anthem on the education system in what what the university too, mr. oleksandr, there is one more important question. what do you know now about the fires in the kherson region, in particular, there is information that the forests are burning and the steppes are burning there? and the danger is that there is no one to put it out because the occupiers are not busy with that, and our emergency workers are not enough there very briefly and there are big fires well, i will honestly tell you that it is every year this is the kind of trouble that kherson has reeds and so on, the ecosystem is burning shears because a large number of er and birds and er and other er and other animals are dying. that is, it is really a problem, but the ministry of emergency situations is now, well, you understand, it is practically impossible to work in such conditions, and if earlier the localization of fires

was definitely very fast today it is certain the problem is with you oleksandr sovakovsky, a deputy of the kherson regional council, the rector of the kherson state university was in touch with us further with us oleksandr antonyuk political scientist oleksandr we congratulate you glory to ukraine, mr. antonyuk you are with us we congratulate the heroes glory to the heroes congratulations khrystyna congratulations women congratulations so they shelled kyiv during the visit of the secretary general in your opinion, the un what is this connected with ? did they go too far and their goal was not just to demonstrate something, but maybe they even wanted to kiss the secretary general well, i don't know about kissing the un, but about the coasts. it seems to me that they lost those coasts a long time ago. i think that we

are already witnesses to this and the war with ukraine simply emphasizes how inadequate the russian federation is today in evaluating its actions and in the end, they demonstrate their inadequacy, that is, that this is a deliberate position, they say they are demonstrating. yeah, what are you going to do to us? i am considering such an option, but i am considering this option. what a process, not even intimidation, but a demonstration of the fact that ... was uh, well, to demonstrate that, for example, contempt even for the position of the un, and contempt for any international law and any uh, well, i'm not talking about ukraine's sovereignty, they already deny this publicly, but simply to contempt for the rules of any international institutions, and if we are talking about going forward, i think that we will raise this issue in any case, and yesterday's statement, for example,

iryna vyraschuk regarding the hopes that there is, in theory, the possibility of carrying out a humanitarian operation there what she called it there in relation to the civilian population that is now in azovstal, it seems to me that the russian federation has actually demonstrated in this way that it is by no means and it is unlikely to agree to a humanitarian border that will be managed by the un, i would clarify here piskov once again outlined the position, in particular, and the russian president noted that as far as civilian steel vases are concerned, they can come out like an unnecessary evacuation, but as for the military, let them put away their weapons, that is, everything is very clear. i think that actually they will continue to do so on er. as they say insist on more than that, i omit that they can put forward a counter condition if they of course agree to this operation with the un that they will be

present and monitor and control the evacuation process itself and in this way to either not release our military or take them prisoner. and it is possible, i emphasize, but to create an additional list, that is, on the exchange between military prisoners somewhere. perhaps one or another meeting between president zelenskyi and putin is approaching because the minister of defense of turkey said that, in principle, they are moving in that direction. well, of course it can move, but you know. i think that it is not actually moving, but a strawberry, but moving. obviously, it is at the speed of a snail and i still don't see any real prerequisites for this meeting before the meeting between the president of ukraine and the president

of putin's nazi russian federation, even considering the fact that this bunker president even his the clarification does not allow me to come closer than 20 m. now let's imagine. is it possible to have such a situational meeting in the fields , precisely the ukrainian president of the top twenty, i will remind you, they invited him there, and the invitation of the russian president was never canceled. at least i i didn’t see this information. i think that putin simply won’t be there, and the meeting there at the conference was canceled. you know what prevents this opinion from being held today, for example, a conference with other mediators, see in fact, there is still no subject for discussion. the russian federation is not ready to leave our territories, it is simply not ready in this case, their plans are to further destroy ukraine in principle, as

they declared and further, and taking into account what russian propagandists are issuing, here you are. today , christina was mentioned for them just a few minutes ago, so you can see how much they are trying to raise this hysteria and even zhek or even threaten the world. that's how they voiced their plans, in particular, they are talking about the attempt to occupy odesa and the exit to the territory of temporarily occupied transnistria, which is part of moldova, problems with communication with oleksandr antonyuk, we hope that oleksandr will return to us now. shelling of kyiv and stated that he was shocked and amazed by

the evening shelling during the visit of un secretary-general antonio gotresh and prime minister of bulgaria kyryll petkov oleksandr antonyuk returned to contact us p oleksandr, i hope you heard my colleague's question. no, this component is free. well , look, i have the feeling that the russian federation is now trying to stretch moldova. well, obviously, try to really open a second front . which is located in transnistria, because in the event of an escalation, there are as many as 2,000 people there. well, if they provoke and try to enter the territory of ukraine, then i think that even the strength of metal defense will be enough to nights with him eh, but if they try to include

moldova in this conflict and no one has canceled the black sea fleet of the russian federation, they can start to have nightmares in their pockets. that was opened during the second front in this case well, here it is obvious that now this position should be for the president of moldova, mrs. sandu. i think it would be appropriate for her to agree on positions with our supreme commander, and in order to this should not be allowed. i think that various volunteer movements there, for example, moldova can follow our scenario, create a territorial defense there, too, invite a volunteer, and volunteers from different countries. i think that we can close and close the issue of transnistria very quickly, well, help in that sense, we now speak the official language in a consultative manner, and in that sense, the issue of

transnistria should finally be closed, and this issue should be closed in that gestalt, not in the recognized republics of these enclaves, and perhaps with transnistria, all this will begin with transnistria, and it will end, for example, sooner or later, and abkhazia, that is, and before that, passing donetsk, luhansk closure and, accordingly, the autonomous republic. eight o'clock 49 minutes on april 29, mykola golonsha is in touch with us now as the deputy prosecutor general of ukraine in 2003-5 years 14 and 19 first deputy head of welfare e p mykola we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes good morning, we discussed the issue of transnistria and a possible special operation, who could be behind the explosions, particularly in moldova, how should our

country react, because discussions about whether we have the right to attack outside our country are potentially dangerous for us objects inside the country has already begun, well, first of all, it is clear to everyone that the russian federation is behind your attack, it has spawned such satellite entities, and in particular, as transnistria, it must be said strategically right away that there are 465,000 people there and in principle and there is nothing to talk about, even if the russian federation is represented at most until the afternoon, but it is not about that, it is about the fact that today we are in an open war with the russian federation, which they call a special operation, but that stop the separation, the bombing of the whole of ukraine began that is, this is a full-scale war and we have every

right to bomb all their military military facilities from which shots are fired from which we have a problem and to suppress their defensive power, that is, in response, in accordance with the un charter we have to international conventions and according to the law of ukraine on defense, we have the right to retaliate. of course, there is a military leadership for this. but russia only understands the language of force and they have already managed to do everything they could, they have done everything, they report not only to the defense site they destroy the living environment, they kill people, that is, an important point, mr. mykola, what should we do with the various flagrant violations by the russian federation of the geneva conventions and, in general, the written and unwritten rules of the introduction of war

mr. guterres was yesterday, i will say that the seventh chapter of the united nations charter what in this case, when an aggressor country attacked another country with a war of aggression - this is called a world crime, at the same time, the general assembly of the oun passed a resolution on the cessation of aggression, and the un international court of justice also issued a corresponding verdict on stop the aggression, because i am still an international criminal court. this is a different court and a different jurisdiction, it is also in asia, and after that, if he does not comply, putin does not comply with the resolution of the general assembly and the court, the general assembly headed by guter is obliged to create a headquarters to ask for peacekeeping forces and up to a demonstration of force. they have the right to curb the aggressor. first of all, secondly, everyone is talking about nato, what it is, well, because

it was a start for putin, he clearly oriented himself, but today under the auspices of the un simply, in accordance with the un charter, you can close the sky, the hotel should create a headquarters, then that headquarters must be subordinate to the security council of the united nations and he has the right to ask to create a dead part of such decisions with the help of his right of veto in the un security council. it is correct and yesterday i heard a very true thesis from leadership of ukraine and the proposal to exclude e.e. russia from the un security council well, first of all, they are not legitimate members of the un and the security council because no one there elected them, they by right of succession took

the place of e.e. the non-existent union of the ukrainian ssr, therefore in this case it was possible to impose a suspension and, accordingly , offer to formalize this procedure or simply exclude them if they are a member of the un security council because or suspend because it is a world crime. of course, the law, the existing laws, rules, regulations, they did not foresee that putin would to ignore any norms of the world order, therefore in this case i believe that the un general assembly has the right to either suspend or exclude russia altogether from the security council, they are now mykola a stupid moment talking about violations of, for example, the geneva convention, we understand that part of the russian military personnel committed crimes against the civilian population of ukraine and more part of that part was captured, we don't know what the current

situation is with the exchange lists, but the question is whether we should judge them and, for example, send them to cherkasy for 15 years for chemistry, or somewhere else there we don't know where the war criminals were kept in the appropriate places. can we, so to speak, put them in the exchange fund? well, first of all, those who directly committed crimes, world crimes , crimes against humanity, they must be tried and they must bear the punishment of those who are prisoners took part in the war, but they did not commit these anti-russian crimes and crimes against humanity, they can be nominated to the exchange fund, where i believe that the general prosecutor's office of ukraine should, well, it still depends on the country's leadership and consultations. but the full right should bring

proceedings against putin, announce the appropriate decision of the court, declare him wanted. look, they are talking about the procedure and what immunities immunity falls when a person commits a world crime, because it is an ongoing crime of the eyes, it must be stopped. that is why we have the right, it was would be a legal precedent that would, in principle, form the basis and then be accepted by the international criminal court, you see that the general prosecutor's office correctly announced to all deputies of the state duma the suspicion of those who voted for the invasion of ukraine therefore, it is necessary to act, but if it is a question of the fact that the state leadership wants to enter into negotiations, of course, so far it cannot but agree to declare him wanted, but criminal proceedings against putin must be filed because he is restraining this factor and there are full reasons

it is necessary to look back at our constitution for laws and not for immunities that, in principle, apply to presidents who fulfill their duties and protect the interests of their state and low world crimes. the resolution on the creation of a special e-court that would essentially consider those crimes of the russian federation that it resorts to on the territory of our country, what are the prospects if we talk about the specific temporary terms we have in this direction. e physical regime and as for the leadership of the state of the russian federation, of course it can be delayed a little because they simply ignore any international norms, they came from all possible forums, but this is not

relieves putin of responsibility and if the council of europe will raise questions about the investigation, i think that it can take up to three months, but on the other hand, i think that the most effective body and factor today is the creation of peacekeeping forces in accordance with the seventh chapter of the un charter, which should first ask a-not ask but close the sky over ukraine to appeal to the russian federation to stop the aggression. they have the right, he emphasizes, up to the demonstration of force and the use of force to do this it is very important to protect, i would also like to descend on our ukrainian empires. yesterday we spoke with valentyn nalyvaichenko, the former head of the security service of ukraine. he is now a people's deputy of ukraine and he said that the

situation in the kherson region was extremely strange. criminal proceedings are being conducted against officials , unfortunately, we do not have all the information but we would like to ask you. perhaps you have such information with us. just a moment, please . so, we are talking about the current birds and so on and the advancement of russian troops, well, from that there was also an official statement, it was already the truth kutsa is short that there was no way to stop the enemy but i believe that all this will be the subject of an investigation, just not now, there is no need to push it because we have to give from the sichov, but there will be a legal assessment to all the officials who neglected this or that and those or other opportunities. of course, if there was a minefield and it is necessary to understand whether it

worked or not from the official statement, it follows that these mines worked, but they are under the pressure of uh and the onslaught of forces could not be stopped and those those of the aggressor and i believe that uh come died in the war started by russia