the coverage of our entrepreneurs who came out of that era by market mechanisms without taking into account the specifics of our country is a risk factor, we are not against it, i apologize because i am simply translating from russian, we are not against the market economy, but we know that the west allows other countries to be its partner only when it is beneficial to him, therefore, the main thing is that it is a beautiful time for the internal potential of the country of the north - north korea. yes, this is a person who is a grown-up general, they stole everything they could steal from whose son is the minister of agriculture russia, well, that is, he knows something about the market, he says something like this. i don’t know what to call it, but he believes in it, you understand. yes, i added for the audience another dream. i did n’t believe it, but now, since we are talking about idiocy, i will explain it to you. what is the dream in europe and about ukraine, one of the dreams is very important - it's ok, the east of ukraine is taken by russia, and the west is taken by poland and a

piece of hungary, that is, he said that polish troops are entering western ukraine yes here everything is like the second world war ribbentrop polotov everything is fine that is nato does not exist, the european union does not exist none of this exists, why will i tell you that naryshkin today i just convince you because he is calling putin or something they are talking there sitting at the table there vladimir vladimirovich yes yes i sent a signal yes yes i sent a signal polyakov pal to whom to the poles pyotr olga leonid to the poles to the poles and for them to take lviv yes, we are waiting for the poles here, it is very important not yet the council of the luhansk university named after shevchenko, the people's deputy

of the last convocation, now he is in touch with us and we are talking about what is happening in the luhansk region viktor vitaliy is falling, i congratulate you. good health , panel, good afternoon. well, what is happening now in luhansk oblast at this moment. what do you know about the situation? heavy battles, very heavy battles are taking place in uh, somewhere in 80% of luhansk oblast, they are controlled by orcs at the moment, those 20%. what remained are the large industrial cities of severodonetsk, lysychansk, partly rubezhnoye , partly popasna, mountainous, and very, very fierce battles are going on for them. i have been calling since this morning from friends, uh, from those towns that were already captured by the occupiers not far from severodonetsk these are such as starobilsk, the district centers of novoyaidar,

svatovo, they say they overtook tanks, armored vehicles, dozens of planes are constantly flying in the direction of severodonetsk , that is, there is such a bombing, the destruction of these cities is going on to knock out our troops, but they, um, they did not advance, that is where the line of defense was built by the ukrainian army since starting from the 14th year to the unit of the lpr, where we were separated , they actually could not advance there. if they did advance somewhere , it was a few kilometers, this is evidence that we strengthened ourselves there seriously we have very qualified troops, mr. vitaly, a very important question, an emotional one, probably already in the occupied territories, according to your information, people understand better that the russian world is a

russian war, in fact, that is, there are changes in the mood, because we understand that there are enough people after the 14th year believed in russian propaganda, they may have been waiting for the russian er russian troops russian policy of russian putin but now there are massive problems due to mobilizations due to shortages due to the war in k- in the end due to an explosion something there is a rivet that appeared in my head. look, i would divide the same luhansk region into two parts, one part that has been under occupation since the 14th year and the second part - these are those that have been under occupation since february 24 yes, those who fueled the occupation and now hostilities are taking place in the same border area, criminal svatovo

starobilsk, even those who were a little, so to speak, weak, so they did not fully understand this russian measure, now they are seriously condemning it, and only a few of them cooperate there went and i think what are the facts about the collaborators? who were already captured by the russians a long time ago, that is, you know, their agents of influence who received some money or were captured for something a long time ago, but what concerns the population that has been under occupation for eight years is more complicated there this is the situation. propaganda is also russian tv. it affects people and affects even those who were

more pro-ukrainian or neutral . so many families, let's just say that they got angry with each other , the mother must live there forever and the son is here in kyiv. just yesterday, my mother told me that my own mother called me 50% bandera, and my children 100% she already says she doesn't accept us, she says be patient we have been patient here too, be patient, we will release you soon, do you understand, uh, us - how much is this propaganda, it is a cloud and scary, that's why we missed these moments a little during

these eight years. when we allowed, we had to there, their towers are the first to break it from some strugatskyi, you know these towers, um, what they actually cover, i didn’t even think that this tv affects them so much. look at the statistics that, uh, in russia , they published 75% of the population in the russian federation with 75% of the main information comes from the tv. well, it’s terrible, they don’t have anything else but the tv, but vitaly, do you believe in partisan struggle, why am i asking because for many,

many decades we all read at school the works of the young guard, which talked about desperate communist or komsomol young guys who fought against the occupiers in donetsk region and luhansk region, can you imagine today's partisan pro-ukrainian and anti-russian partisan struggle, well , this is exactly the concept that soviet propaganda told us about partisan struggle. i don't believe in it. since childhood, when i was a child in soviet times. why did i have an uncle, the kingdom of heaven to him, yes, he was just that partisan, but he was a professional soldier and fought if in partisan detachment, but these were all special forces units of professional military personnel. i wasn't in the

bryansk forests, they fought there, for years, they were supplied with weapons to everyone else, but these guys like the kovpakovets. the young guard, all this stuff was invented by writers and the truth is, 15 percent of the force. if we talk about the current times, i believe in the resistance of the resistance quiet eh. maybe , but the resistance of the population to the occupiers and it manifests itself today and every day they are calling from the territory of the occupied luhansk region, starobilsk, svativskyi, troitskyi district, teachers who refuse to go to work in

schools, they are now occupied by the occupiers, they force them, they force them, they intimidate them. agreed to go to work 3-4 from the strength of 5 no more and then this resistance, this is refusal to cooperate, this is also a kind of partisan struggle, agrarians refuse to move there, entrepreneurs, er, someone is leaving, doctors refuse to cooperate with the occupiers, this is a real struggle , but to blow up the rails there, to harm something there, professional military personnel who are there and already in the

occupied territory of the luhansk region are engaged in this. for some reason , the city hall in er, flint, where the collaborators went there, the police broke down there for that night in the new aydar, one uncle fell, well, something made him sick, well, the truth is, he had two holes in his head , this is the principle known when two holes in the head usually people fall, probably, they probably get sick, a sudden illness, there is something to ask you in principle, i want to ask about young people, we were just talking about these towers, uh, i thought about this, these are young people. we saw that they captured the students of higher educational institutions in the occupied donetsk region, and they won't say that they are ideologized . you just know, they agreed with the reality in which they live, so what to do with young people, young people do not watch tv and do not just become political in such a situation

. so, look, mmm, until last year, the situation in the city of the occupied city of luhansk, children are graduating from school 30th grade graduates from school, there are 25-30 children, let ’s say how they are divided, a third of them go to russia to enter universities and stay in luhansk, which are the poorest, and a third went to ukraine, that is, they were divided, and the third that stayed there in luhansk, they were fairly apolitical, sometimes not at all apolitical, but primarily due to the financial capabilities of their parents, they could not leave somewhere and stayed there, but they rely on them, but the youth do not watch tv, but those 75%. senior people are watching it

generation and uh, there is some one there, well, older, older, those who are 40 years old, as a rule, those who are younger, they already find different information, and it is still much easier to work with them, thank you, thank you, i need to make a bet. i need to make a bet, which one can i talk to, can i work? smoker's head of the academic council of luhansk university named after shevchenko, the people's deputy of the last convocation was in touch with us, listen, can you explain such a phenomenon, why we were interested in listening to the voice of america, the bbc, freedom, and this is tarara, and there were then listening to western 20 million voices were listened to by soviet people regularly and now there is the internet and for some reason people are not interested in why i asked this question for the first time, you know

when i was in belarus back in 1995, it was already a zone of authoritarianism and i came from russia from ukraine then it was possible to receive any information with complete peace of mind, whether it was independence or publishing, it was the early yeltsin, in fact, and i think that the belarusians may not know something, then i saw that they have the internet in every post office, and if you want, then there was no so what do you know about the phone but if you want to know what's really going on with you welcome you don't need any jammer to overcome how was it somehow we listened to the voice of america through jammers yes yes quite meticulous it was such a condition but i saw that they absolutely do not care about most people and i i will tell you. i think that these conversations about these 20 million people were er exaggerations and in what sense did you work for the bbc during these years? i am currently personally

we have experience of communicating with audiences that listen to western radio stations of large er percentages 670 of this audience, at least in russia, are people who listen to them as enemies. so when the interactive started, the calls started, oh vegetables, what are you talking about, even by the way, there were no such problems in ukrainian with ukrainian services, never with russian, always half of those who call, if not more people who are listening are calling to find out what the enemy is going to do against us against our beautiful russia, so i think that out of those 20 million, fifteen were just staunch communists and enemies of democracy, yes, they already are. now they are listening, reading these sites, watching vpn , but they hate it, there is a certain part of the population, we understand what it is like in russia, we can do it, you can see from the sociology of support for putin's war up to 10%, it is

not enough if you consider that there are 140 million people - that's 14 million people after the collapse putin's regime of the economy and so on. these are the people who will later rebuild the state by imposing these conditions on their population. say, not even western values. no, but really, don't steal. you don't want such biblical facts for the population that is against it. listen, what about you? another question leads you. tell me , he will have worked a lot in russia. you know better than anyone. but these are the liberals in russia. they are liberals, that is , i have the impression that russians can be convinced without coercion. they must be ordered. they are used to orders and when some liberals come they say, well , you know, don't steal, don't kill, and i'll fuck you, i'll steal and kill, it looks like these liberals have real power. you don't know that a russian is inside a hundred, he respects power, right, yes, he has a kremlin

, if someone is in the kremlin, he himself will sit in the kremlin joseph biden is there, everyone is fine, comrade baida, we are a great scientist, yes, that's why we are now. putin's strategic defeat must become a strategic defeat from this russia. i am russia, the country of evil, and this is a very important moment that we all have to wait for, so what's in this we have understanding with you and expect this kind of method. we have pavlo zhebrivskyi, the former head of the donetsk regional military autumn administration, the president of the union of the fighting brotherhood of ukraine. please, just now. we spoke with vitaly kurylo. from luhansk, from luhansk university, former rector and people's deputy of the last convocation, you know him well. he says that practically today it is difficult to convince, even during hostilities, when

probably all the languages ​​of the world understand what the russian world is. but a significant percentage of even young people who don't seem to watch tv sit on the internet and the internet writes more or less the truth and what to do with these people, you worked there, there's a lot to do with this, even young people in their 20s who don't they watch skabeeva and have every opportunity to watch the internet and know the truth, but they do not want to know the truth, but i want to listen to skabeeva, what should be done with them as people , in my opinion, vinnychenko said that a russian democrat will end on the ukrainian issue and this is a huge problem of russia as an empire, it is one of the last empires and i just remember in my own way the year 2008, when putin's next election was held, and then he

chose a billionaire prokhorov as his sparring partner, as if he were a democrat, as if he was a person who, in principle, was in favor of the democratization of muscovy. a telemarketer between our country, i was a representative of ukraine and his own sister, who headed the headquarters, and she talked about the fact that, in principle , russia will do everything to make russia democratic, i told her that we ukrainians want to muscovites became democrats, because it is very good to have a normal sober neighbor, but unfortunately, as soon as democracy begins in muscovy, muscovy will become muscovy, the caucasus will fall , tatarstan, bashkortostan will fall, and so on. philosophies at the level of the genetic code today we

can talk not only about russians valentina matvienko was born in shepetivtsi grew up in the cherkasy region but she is a muscovite what kind of church is she because two things are the archetypal ukrainian and the archetypal moscow in an archetypal ukrainian is a free person who has or strives for opportunities to become a wealthy and successful brainiac he gets pleasure when someone feels bad why can't we call brainiacs fascists today because this is a humiliation of fascists racism is an improved form of fascism it the philosophy of slavery, they are slaves by nature, we

remember those pictures where ivan the terrible is riding and the boyars are flattened and cannot raise their faces up, this is genetic and archetical, but today in ukraine we talk about the ukrainian political nation regardless of who you are by origin i have polish origin someone has different origin, even russian origin, but if he perceives this ukrainian archetype of striving for freedom, the key value is to have opportunities and become successful, wealthy, he is a political ukrainian, this is precisely the clash of archetypes and is key. i think what the western partners are saying is that the ukrainians should decide for themselves whether to stop at the borders of ukraine or not. this is a separate important message, because the empire must disappear. the empire must disappear. and when will

muscovy remain within the moscow principality i am convinced that with this the archetype of the muscovite will also change, they will become people today, these are satanists, these are today people who seek to do bad to someone, they do not seek to do good to themselves. so even take german fascists, that is, this nazism provoked and produced the fact that their nation should live well at the expense of others. muscovites do not seek to live well. they seek to make someone feel bad, because of this they are racists, and in fact, will there be liberals there ? 10 someone says - 19% who do not perceive the war of muscovy against ukraine, but will they change this

mentality of muscovy? not until the muscovite empire within these borders will be a prison for many peoples, this is their superiority, this is their arrogance, this is the desire to spite someone will continue in them and then the russian democrats will end on the ukrainian issue, mr. pavlo, one more question, you mentioned it, so i will take you by the tongue. and what do you personally think about stopping at the border or not because there is a big controversy on the one hand, and we understand that it is zagarbani territories of crimea and donbas, and on the other hand, we do not know what putin thinks about these territories, because in the doctrine it is written that if there is a threat to the state of russia, we will drop a nuclear bomb, then for them luhansk is the state of russia or is it still the state of ukraine donetsk -

is it the state of russia or is it the state of ukraine? simferopol is which state, that is, this question arises and the west definitely said, let's decide everything , ukrainians, decide, we will not interfere here, but what should be decided when we do not know whether a nuclear strike will be carried out if, for example, the ukrainians take donetsk o and in fact, if you are afraid of the wolf , do not go into the forest today, in principle, they included the moscow crimea and it seems to be a federal district according to their so-called constitution, now it seems that an option is being worked out the inclusion of not only the dpr and the russian federation, but also the entire donetsk and luhansk regions within the administrative borders is also in the constitution in moscow, and these are ukrainian territories. and actually the one who says, well

, i really don’t like it when someone there is negotiating, they say let’s return to the borders on february 24 and you know, since the 16th year, when i met with tymayer and era, then still on the destroyed slavyansky bridge, and when i asked steinmar about this, you offer steinmar's formula, and the safety of ukrainians is not ensured in those territories elections, but actually ran away, and era showed me that this is the right question. since then, i have clearly understood and realized that there is no political-diplomatic way to resolve the territorial integrity of ukraine. there is only a military one. a military-diplomatic way is possible . borders on 24 on the demarcation line on the borders

on february 24. this was a war embedded in them, we have accumulated for a year, two, three, taking into account the mistakes of moscow. i attacked ukraine again, look, they are learning they want monkeys, but they are learning what they did a month or two ago, they are no longer doing it, i literally uh yesterday i came from the code to ukraine, even the thoughts of the 20th army were pulled up, the remains of the uh through the thermal imaging sights, everything that gives signs of life, gophers or whatever they want, then they cover the artillery and then they go to the desantura and uh, the principles are captured somewhere half a kilometer two kilometers, that is, they learn and consider them that they do not know how to fight and

will fight since they fought in the beginning no because of this, if we, fearing a so-called nuclear strike from muscovy, do not liberate ukrainian territories, including the entire donetsk region, luhansk oblast and crimea, we will achieve nothing, we will postpone the war. you know, when in germany, a certain number of people said and you, the so-called 18 intellectuals, that it is necessary to bring ukraine to capitulate so that the population does not suffer, so that they do not kill, there is no destruction. and actually in this part, such a thesis prevails, it is necessary to be afraid. but i think that since putin has many children, well, they say five or six, he himself is probably ready to burn in

this radiation ash, but i definitely think that he is not ready for his young children to burn in this pop new the novel yes, mr. pavlovich putina, putin's daughter recently wanted to leave the country just so that she wouldn't burn anywhere and they wouldn't allow it, only the guards increased, she didn't go anywhere. do you remember, comrade comrade stalin, he said that he doesn't exchange privates for generals, so that's all thoughts that putin will feel sorry for his children, and this is also this, you are also going to make a serious logical error. putin will calmly go to the next world with his children if we tell him that he will succeed in destroying the ukrainian territory with the blow of this sarmatian two, believe me, there will be no hesitation it is possible , vitaly, if they were right, but as of today, as far as i know, our western partners are ready to respond to a strike with tactical nuclear weapons, practically with nuclear weapons, he is not the accomplice of ukraine. i say if i say i'm not talking about dreams. i'm not talking about possibilities. i'm talking about

dreams. by the way, i want to have literally one minute left there and a half. what do you say that we should liberate crimea and donbas? i'll tell you, it's not surprising, but it's surprising when this is what the minister of foreign affairs of great britain says. forest stress is indeed a change in the position of the west. in fact, they are clearly aware that it is not ukraine defending itself, it is ukraine defending them. i was very impressed by the meeting in ramstein, when 40 ministers gathered and actually clearly realized that today ukrainians this spirit of the ukrainian army does not protect the territory of ukraine, it protects the civilized world from the darkness from the satanists and this is a change of position in the end, then all this reached them and because of this there is help and because of this, including the minister of foreign affairs of britain and the head of the

state department brinking says that it is the right of ukraine to bomb, including a logistics center on the territory of muscovy, and to liberate its territory. if we do not do this, believe me, it will be a postponed war, they will continue to fight. our children, our carthage in muscovy, must be destroyed. there was pavlo zhevrivskyi, a former voter of the donetsk regional clinical and civil administration and the head of it. it was and will be. anzhelika sezonenko will now tell you about the news. anzhelika will give you a word, please. thank you very much, our colleagues. our defenders liberated three settlements in the kharkiv region. unfortunately, a young sportswoman died in mariupol from enemy fire and in odesa a very long curfew is planned, all in a moment 65 days of opposition of the ukrainian people to the

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