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of ukraine. well, i think that if there was no coordination of actions at all, then the minister of foreign affairs of listras did not tell britain that ukraine should return to its borders in 2014, including today. and today, i don't know if you saw just during our broadcast, an interview with victoria nulant came out no, my friends, there is a big interview and there is actually a goal. well, he repeats what listraz said during his speech in london, if it confirms these thoughts that the goal of the united states is the strategic defeat of russia, well, that is what we discussed with you at the beginning, practically, the west understood that if putin even keeps something here, it means that he will go further and with generally incomprehensible consequences for the west. that is, we are . nato is nothing

not for money, the defense union, a nuclear umbrella, but now this situation has changed again, they understand perfectly well what is at stake, if not for them personally, at least for all these countries that have already done so, finland, therefore, sweden, that is why everything is done so quickly , that is why linds, that is why all these statements are putin's signals that something you will do this, conditionally speaking, uh, it's unpleasant, yes, it's not, we will also answer, and this is such a moment, it means now. in this way , i immediately say that the situation has changed. yes, i think my answer is like this here in the question not a very correct approach, because in your opinion, the determination of our leadership depends not only on ukraine, what vitaliy said is a very simple thing, now everyone is interested, it will be a front in

which there will be at least 40 countries and it is no longer the choice of ukraine, maybe even ukrainian the president will say let's leave crimea alone for the time being, but he won't say it because it's already biden, it's already johnson, it's already duda, it's already a huge number of people who have made the decision they were talking about in italy that we should strategically weaken russia, not win the war what was it about a week or two ago, the astronomical message means that putin or post-putin or someone from russia did not even have the idea to start some kind of outward expansion again. therefore, you already know this, not only from ukraine, but also after the dignity of our western parties demanded from the ukrainian authorities the creation of such anti-corruption nabu dbr sap but if the general prosecutor's office of ukraine sbu performs its duties well all additional bodies

there is no need can we talk about poroshenko's crony mafia in the general prosecutor's office well if do you think that venediktova is poroshenko's person , then i just need to advise you to read political news more carefully, political news doesn't seem so to me, secondly, it's not western, the history of the west is necessary. sky, they don't have nabu in the west, dbr and sap, there's nothing like that. they're good the prosecutor's office is working. but it seems to me that all these measures were necessary for the ukrainians, for me, for the living room , for you, for everyone, for this, it was done so that there would be no corruption, and therefore it is not a question . there is no country where there is no corruption, but the issue is not the presence of corruption, but the fact that it is necessary and possible not only to fight corruption, but also to

win. unfortunately, in ukraine, corruption defeats the state and society, and in america the state and society defeat corruption, that's the difference. come on, tell me more, please. wait, about corruption. yes, come on. i'm sorry. do you want to add something? listen. i had this question all the time. i had this question in the morning. i said to andrei, i want to repeat it again in the morning. when i was stream. stop worrying about what will happen after the war, seriously . let's win first. will fly in now and you don't know in what borders all this will take place, we are saying that we want it to be this way and the west wants it to be this way but putin wants it to be otherwise, we do not know what it will be like, what will be the economic situation of mr. miliana will be explained in detail

by mr. golovan, we do not know what will be the level of corruption in a poor country is always a huge level of corruption in general. you should prepare for an avalanche of corruption. what happened before with corruption will seem like its absence to you, because the time of survival will begin in the destroyed economy, which will go to western money. the issue is hundreds of billions , they are already half a trillion coming and and here everything is clean , with clean hands. i am convinced that there are already people who are working on schemes. there are still people who are working on schemes. the war is not over yet, and they already know how they steal at the end of the war. the question is very difficult and very simple, mrs. tatiana, does the company have the right to send people now to wartime at its own expense without any payment we have been at home for a month without payments well, what if what if i have a private company, i produce

something no one needs war, and i do not produce, of course, because i will not do it so that i feel bad and no one takes my products, i have no income for myself, accordingly, i have no income to pay salaries . well, that's what war is all about someone is sitting without any kind of payment, and someone is no longer sitting anywhere, and if he is sitting, it is in front of god, yes, somewhere there. keep in mind that war is war - it is to imagine that there is a war and they continue to pay for everything and the roads are just there near you, the roads are destroyed - they can simply don't bring cash because it's a legal issue . well, i don't know, but it's just logical that what follows. well, what about the new ones? what's next? the economic situation will only worsen, it won't improve, because we currently exist solely at the

expense of that budget, which ends next. there will be economic aid, then humanitarian aid will begin, for some reason they believe that the situation will improve for you, it will not improve as long as the war continues. you are only the first stage of the crisis and the government is certainly doing everything possible in this situation, what can it do with this simple reason that it still has some budget money then they will end , the money that the westerners will give these people will start, the account will have to be distributed, how will this distribution be better or worse, this is also a question, this is what russia is striving for, you are at home for a month without payments soon a huge number of people will be at home without payments, including employees of the budget sector , this may be the case. the efficiency of the state will depend on how effectively it can quickly distribute this money. we understand with you that, in principle, the ukrainian economy has now been destroyed from the point of view of the money that was in the budget to the organizers, we are talking about australia, about the metallurgical enterprises, where they are. they have always

filled our budget . does it work, no, i’m not talking about that, it’s exported by railway, not by the sea. account not only of troops but also of missile strikes and they want to immediately say that even when they wake up, active hostilities will stop, that is, if there will be a situation like that, well, a lull, yes a truce. no, i don't believe in any truce. i mean simply no i will be russian troops these days absolutely shoot to be up to the moment , there is nothing, the infrastructure has been destroyed, there are no railways, there are no factories, there are no transitions, there are no salaries. this is his goal, we have to

fight it, but we must clearly understand that putin’s goal is the depopulation of ukraine. this is what mykola told you this is the largest emigration from ukraine so that there are no people so that when he gathers new troops they can move around the empty territory, this is his goal we live with you in some romantic world in which there is only our desire, there are no wishes of putin but putin's wishes are there. they are crazy, he fulfills them, we are fighting for it, but we cannot do without it. unfortunately , there is no access, and i perfectly understand all those people who are now in a difficult situation, because you should contact the relevant state authorities, not on television, this is also obvious. yes and don't be silent. this is what i'm saying because if you ask a tailor's question in september, that's not the right place. and if we say that there will be huge financial aid to ukraine - that's great, but if ukrainian society is ukrainians will be silent and complain at the wrong address and do not go on strikes

when you see that someone is stealing money that you should have received, nothing will happen again here, no one will do your work for you, you see, you are suspicious, do not write to us, but to the police, go on strikes, tell your employers we see that we are going to be kidnapped again. you all know that i understand people, this is huge, in general, in the morning, all that you all want to talk about is the future, which may not be as we imagine it, and all those who cannot learn to live in war, that is, to live to wake up in the morning, it's another day of life. thank you. let's talk in ukrainian on our tape about what kind of state we want to see the russian federation in this war, and in russia they are now talking on all television shows about what kind of ukraine they want to see in this ukraine, and uh, without people, i read today in the american newspaper, the regional representative said that the russians are already writing the constitution for ukraine, they are appointing a government. they also live in

the same chimerical world, nothing, in a year we will defeat them, we should have the entire government, everything the leadership, the list of those whom we want to shoot, the constitution, the parliamentary elections, and the results of the political parties . four god will continue to rule vladimir putin who will support the majority of the population because he tried to liberate the russian lands and could not as we will strike that there is not a single ukrainian left there, a nuclear state it won't happen at all , nuclear tests will continue and clear threats that we will drown you all in blood, we are his 40, we have 40 million and 14 six, they can just go, i don't know, there for weeks we will shoot and they will go and in the end there may be such a

number that we simply do not know the cartridges will not be enough i do not know they are not trained they may not go the problem is not the problem because it is not up to us to decide what the russian federations will be russian the russian federation, one way or another , it can burn down in the same way thanks to the internal process of the irs, sanctions, disappointment, social problems, and this is most likely without help from the outside. if you are a young person, you will wait for this. in the 17th year, people were waiting for the collapse of the soviet union . we waited for the 91st, it will happen, i assure you, you will be 70 years old, you will see it. if you are 40, maybe in three, five years, you will see. who knows, nobody knows anything now, we have entered such a time that from what we have a straight line from the disappearance of the putin regime to the disappearance of the civilized world, everything is in a nuclear war with russia. here we have a simple answer. if you think that the russians are not capable of using nuclear weapons, including strategic ones, you are wrong , they are capable of doing it, they are crazy, we can see it

everywhere in their conversations, moreover, i have the impression that if you ask the question do you want to use just a sociological nuclear weapon, but there is a chance that you too will die? of others, if it will be in russia, yes, in fact, that's why i'm absolutely ukrainians, europeans, oh, i 'm going to die. no, i'm going to think, i'm going to, after all, life is worth something, and there it's not worth anything, so what, you have to understand that the west is just a careful pull for this fish pulls the shore so that it does not break and one more important point. i think it is necessary to say about him too that one way or another all these events are developing on ukrainian soil, not on russian soil, and we say that our military actions can be transferred to russian territory may be but we do not know the result of this transfer, what it will look like. whether we are talking about the border areas or not, we do not know that with

this nuclear doctrine of russia, it can be used when, say, the liberation of crimea is going to happen. well, you can experiment and find out. i think that it is possible and not because if the russians have a clear understanding that the states and great britain will be ready to respond, but within the framework of which of the ukrainian borders. yes, for sure, nuclear weapons are not strategic , so clearly speaking, these are the borders of ukraine and no one encroaches on your real borders, but in these borders of ukraine, you cannot do anything because we will consider it an attack on ukraine, including in the simferopol region of sevastopol. so this is one conversation. if no one tells them this, if you hear from the west again, well if russia uses tactical nuclear weapons, we will strengthen the sanctions, well, well, strengthen, well, well, well, that is, there are a million different questions, yes, and questions to listen to, well, there are experts, and serious experts who say seriously say that no missile

will fly why because missiles were supplied there 30-40-50 years ago they were not looked after as usual, we see the russian army fighting and they are under their own weight, these are the huge ss 18 satan missiles - they are probably 20 meters, well, how is this table probably not wide like two barrels and it stands under its own weight. it is just there that some darts switch and some kind of tension arises there. there are people who say they will not fly. don't be afraid. and if one of them flies, one nuclear missile will fly, what will happen there ? there won't be ukraine or france or germany, any one such country, wherever it is, it won't be there, that's all. and there are people who say it will definitely fly, as vitaliy says they have two and a half thousand of them, one of the two and

a half thousand is shorter already it may fly by accident, but it will fly and what will happen next, so in this regard, er, then i always have a question er, please explain why, in addition to other countries, great britain provides such effective assistance to ukraine in the fight against the russian invasion, well, good question , good question, well, in i wouldn't be like that a simple unequivocal answer well, first of all, great britain does not depend on the russian federation, it is not germany in any way they have their own mining industry they have gas and oil they have few connections with the russian federation , first of all, secondly, she always wanted britain to sit on the island, it always balances, for her, the main goal of her foreign european policy is to prevent the germans from being strengthened, then we help the french, if the french are strengthened, we help them , we will do like napoleon, we will make a common front

in russia, there are german games or margaves or austrian herceps, let's all unite and beat france so that it does not get stronger, this is the balance, it is always. and when she sees that in europe, russia begins to behave like this, then the balance changes, and britain will definitely yes, actively do everything in order to maintain the balance again, and since they have been on the international stage for a long time, even at the beginning, you will remember, there was such an idea of ​​britain , poland, ukraine. then we will have such an influence on eastern europe, on poland and ukraine, we will strengthen it and balance the situation again, i want to say that i am still a feature of the political culture, a feature of the political culture, when great britain

understands that she is dealing with a tyranny yes, she begins to act quite actively and this applies to the united states not with authoritarianism. remember that a few years ago we said, well, the british are behaving strangely, they poisoned litvinenko, they tried to do everything so that the judiciary did not leave. it was boris johnson's predecessor, theresa may, who has now been included in the russian sanctions list. by the way, she did everything possible so as not to spoil relations somehow, and that's how much it was when she was prime minister, she was the minister of the interior when litvinenko was poisoned, and she slowed everything down afterwards it's the same caution with poisoned violinists. yes, we left. we are diplomats, but here and there, londongrad was recently called the capital of great britain, because half of the property of this luxury was bought by a russian millionaire and other arab so all the time there was an idea that they bring us money, huge money, rough money , london is the city where darmana bramovych won the

court case against boris berezovsky. that's all, but it was relations with authoritarian russia. it was always believed that the british know how to find a common cause language with authoritarian regimes if they bring money to the british budget, but when it became clear this was with hitler for 6 years of understanding, then everything and the train left that this authoritarian regime was reborn as a tyranny that threatens other countries and stability in europe has become absolutely different , they say, oh, if great britain was in the european union, it would not have behaved so decisively, the european union itself would have been much more decisive, that's why all these conversations that oh, we drew this lucky ticket that great britain left the european union and now it is possible, this is a fact, not a fact, the european union could have gone at a completely different speed a long time ago, because germany would have had to and france would have had to adapt to them and it was completely different, you are moral an example in such a situation because the british said

why we can you can't we are also in the european union we are also losing and this is such a question but it is clear that great britain has become a great engine in this regard and again we see the saxon angel resistance who is the most radical great britain britain , the united states of america, australia, canada, here they are, one more moment, vitaliy, i will tell you, it is what anglo-saxons do not tolerate, they forgive almost everything, they do not tolerate unpredictability, none of them will ever be accused of democracy saudi arabia because it is foreseen, you can't do anything, moreover, the british, as a colonial huge power, it was there and there and there and there and there and there and there and there where saudi arabia was and where it was where africa was and they understand. okay, this leader has such and such a temper. he doesn't spoil anything. okay

, well, she's fine. and when they see that someone whom they thought was a normal person, isn't it normal ? they they say to themselves they missed it, how did we do it, we know everything. by the way, in 2014, merkel's angels clearly said when they talked to vladimir putin that he flew into the astral, yes, yes. and i also remember that i talked to some russian, well, some i know with who am i? it was a high-ranking russian official who was close to the kremlin and was already drinking . i was in the 14th year and we met at an international conference. i told him, well, listen to what he says about putin. well, he welcomes empires . the phrase is beautiful, they congratulate him. yes, he is still there he is there and you have to understand that it is not just fear for his life when he is sitting at this white table and er, god forbid he is not er hit by some yes, i think it is not only the coronavirus

. it is just that he thinks that everyone may come with a secret mission agent this hand of the same major siru major yes yes yes yes yes and he reads that he has a papyrus from the patroshok it will be written that this major is a lieutenant and can bring some special one i had an acquaintance who talked to him she was there somewhere in ogaryov. is he somewhere in german? journalist and she says that the first thing he said when they started walking on the street, that is, he is so afraid to speak indoors that he is afraid that there is someone eavesdropping, who can eavesdrop when there is the fsb sitting under every table, and maybe they are now digging the river from where? and here he is they were walking and he was the first. what did he say, and you understand that we are walking with you through the forest, and there is an american satellite hanging over there and watching my every step, and now he is watching not only me, but also my fun, and this would be my so complicated life i think that the americans also understand that

there are some former soviets who are now a russian satellite, but i’m something. it seems to me that it’s hard to imagine that a poor man is saying to someone, listen, it’s dangerous for me there, it’s russians, russians. forgotten , yes, it can fall, let’s go . nothing, this is general russian paranoia. i was even the beginning of the 2000s, then i was already president, how was it necessary to talk to people who had some information, that means my mobile phone, turn off something, turn off something , take out the battery yes yes yes if you put your phone in the trunk, it means you leave the car at such a distance that no one knows where you are. there it means behind some tree. quietly , quietly , nicely. i know that , but a person has to say it so that no

one hears it, and that's normal. this is the harvest now don't talk about this paranoia, there may be russia in the future, we don't really understand either, because when we were dealing with russia in the 90s very seriously, there was an obvious national factor . it was clear that the people of russia do not identify themselves with ethnic russians in 30 years putin did something that even the russian empire and the russian federation of soviet times did not do. that is, you know that these compulsory years have been canceled from national schools yes yes the state duma decides in which crimean alphabet the tatars cannot write to introduce the latin alphabet because the deputies of the state house of the russian federation do not like it in moscow, it is decided how to call the heads of the republic, this cannot be the president of any

president, we have only one known and who, that is, it is written in the constitution that putin is our president in the past, my joke is, but it looks like this there is another question that is quite serious, er, all this, let's go to others, you have a question, someone, something for you, give you a place, chernivtsi will remain safe , looking at how people ignore air alarms, this question is very interesting, listen, people air alarms are ignored in ukraine, in the cities of ukraine and in and at any time in europe, so if every day it does not fall, then anyone on the third day is not afraid . wants to go out into the white world, when and who are you? when all this is over, life is more precious to me than this white world. someone says that he is a fatalist and walks calmly, that's why the

issue of the safety of the city of chernivtsi and the city of lviv is now safe, every ukrainian city nearby is safe with which there are no russian troops, but there is a missile that they can fly from the black sea, or even initially the level of safety if the troops are stationed there near kyiv, we saw what it is like to live not when rockets fly, then when bandits run around kyiv, i saw you looked out the window, tracing just 100 meters, yes, this is a real danger, you may not even be able to escape from it, because no basement will save you from a russian soldier, he will then throw a grenade, this bitch, i'm sorry, you can't talk like that on the air, you can bitch and i want to say that but the level of missile threats is the same as it is. well, is it safe? oh, i want to ask you. and is the city of tel-aviv safe? so, people, what do you think ? tel-aviv will remain safe, looking

at how people are generated by air alarms. i am interested in the question. no, they do not ignore what we were talking about, the bomb shelter in the apartment. but there are those who are ignored. you have them. who walked the streets, well, that is, not all of them the majority, but here you are. imagine that you live in chernivtsi like in tel aviv right now. well, this is such a reality. well, in tel aviv, people have been living, thank god , for decades. well, they are being bombarded with rockets somewhere further away. they flew in from egypt. yes. the truth is that chernivtsi are just lucky to have them . i don't know how much i can do. i'm wrong. it seems to me that chernivtsi itself has never been under serious fire . chernivtsi itself is the only regional center for me. what if yes, if not. well, because romania is nearby, maybe they afraid maybe they are afraid a strong romanian army that will respond to the encroachment of these russians against nato. yes, we have two

minutes if there is a question, yes, yes, something. let's say yes or no . it turned out that we are at a new historical stage, the truth is that when they talk about the strategic defeat of russia, who says that crimea is ours. in the future, you wanted to talk about the future , it is possible to achieve the future at such a difficult price. and now we are going to talk to our colleagues from radio svoboda. they will be there. literally in an hour, i even want to tell my colleagues to finish with what i started this i want to express my condolences to our colleagues regarding the death of

faith hyrych, who was the only victim of the shelling that took place yesterday in kyiv. un and for ours colleagues from radio svoboda, this is such an incredible loss because they lost a person they loved, who was always by their side, who was very close to a beautiful person. so, i think that you will watch this program with different feelings to understand that even these journalists, there are times when there is sorrow , we have to work. so, we will broadcast our greetings, this is freedom, life, my name is serhii stetsenko , the 65th day of russia's large-scale invasion of ukraine continues. for an hour, we talk about the consequences of the shelling of kyiv and lend-lease for ukraine, we pray on the pages of radio svoboda on facebook and youtube , as well as on the air of the espresso tv channel, as a result of the

rocket attacks on the capital, there were no casualties as it happened