not super, because in principle now it is definitely clear that this war will not end well for them in any way, that was clear to us there a long time ago , and it is becoming clear to them today, if you look at how they change, uh, the tonalities of uh, all of them speeches, how are the narratives of all speeches changing? now they are already talking about a tactical nuclear strike, or the third world war , or a war with nato, etc., that is, in principle, it is clear that they are in a dead end in a big way, and there is a way out of the side corner here statements about about a nuclear strike, well, it's not agony. it's more likely than not. i would say yes. horror movies. do you understand it? they always worked on the regime of fear. they always worked on the regime of intimidation . the world is characterized by inadequate behavior

, and the situation here is such that they have ceased to be afraid of them, and in particular, they have ceased to be afraid because of nuclear blackmail and nuclear threats, because we are bootleggers and, as johnson also stated, what if there is a nuclear the threat is that great britain takes responsibility and can independently decide on the use of its nuclear forces. we hear how the united states responds to it. we hear that, in principle, any country in europe has stopped being afraid of them now, even for this blackmail what kind of energy blackmail is going on, neither poland nor bolga have stopped fearing them, because bulgaria has started to repair or agreed to repair our military equipment. poland generally supplies equipment to a huge number of people of ukraine that's why, you understand, they stopped being afraid of them, and when he falls, like any hooligan, when he has uh,

when he loses this flora that he instills fear in those around him, then, in principle, he becomes in a stupor and i don't know what to do next. thanks to the state itself and to russia. thank you, mr. viktor, and above all, don't be afraid of the aggressor. ukraine is putting up an effective fight back and is waiting for victory , not for the fake victory of the ninth of may, which they celebrate and continue to celebrate as their main holiday and achievement in the kremlin of russia. in fact, our victory, which is about to come in the near future, we are waiting for it, we believe in it and believe in the armed forces of ukraine thank you viktor chumak, deputy prosecutor general of ukraine 2019-20, general of the border service and once again congratulations on the day of the border guard and mr. chumak and to all

our border guards who defend our our ukraine, we will be back in a moment, let's listen to important information for a few moments and we will return to the active discussion of today's live events, we will have the next the guest of our broadcast is valery klochok, a political and economic expert, after that we will talk with political scientists and sociologists and try to understand everything that happened during the most important week and we will also definitely talk about the main news of this hour, so the artists are already back, don't switch, return espresso to the air it is not good because different opinions should be taken into account, which oar well, we are presented in the mass media with a terrible situation, it seems to me that some people are

preparing even now not for the present day but for the future, when the war ends, this is wrong and it shouldn’t be like this. no, the military sometimes i don’t support censorship on the part of the state. i am very upset. this would be my favorite channel. i used to watch it there. all the journalists were telling the truth . let's watch the channel we are from kharkiv and that's all so it's very bad, well i hope it will be fine, everything will be fine with you freedom of speech should be pluralism so i'm only for the fact that you're back, it's really not very well, they should be on the air. i think that any opinions should be illuminated on any channels. president zelenskyi, return espresso to the air. let's protect the information front together. glory to ukraine

. already in the sky above gostomel there were russian ground birds and there was a battle. i am from sumy oblast, the village of nizhnya sirovatka two months ago, none of us could have imagined that small villages in sumy oblast would become the epicenter of world events together with my family. i left the town of irpin the suburbs of kyiv on the fourth day of the war, on february 27, when the advanced units of the russian occupiers were already entering the city, machine-gun fire could be heard . on the same day, my house was destroyed. it was partially destroyed. you know me as the presenter of the espresso tv channel. today, i am a displaced woman. i miraculously survived and i am definitely glad about it. i, together with

antin burkovsky, have been in this studio since the fall . every week for two hours of airtime, we tried to devote exactly to the topic of war. when we started western intelligence will tell us in detail how putin will kill ukrainians. i can't even now return to my hometown, but i had hope that i would return at least one part of my previous life, this is my favorite job, we are lucky, my family is now safe and i continued to work where i am needed on the espresso tv channel, but unfortunately, on april 4 of this year, the state concert of the rtd disconnected the espresso tv channel from the crooked broadcast of t2 . i came to lviv in order to continue working for uspress, but you destroyed my current i

have one small dream, not even to return home, but at least to have the normality of working. at first, the russian authorities took away my house and the opportunity to live in my hometown, now the ukrainian authorities are trying to take away the opportunity to work in my profession, to inform ukrainian viewers, we refute russian fakes, we explain to people where is the truth and where is the lie, we record the crimes of the russian occupiers so that the punishment does not pass them by, we will definitely stand up because we are fighting for our country, we simply do not have children in these options we will stand as much as we must please return our broadcasting to the ukrainians i am sure that they need us presidents zelensky return espresso to the air let's protect the information front together glory to ukraine

of the full-scale aggression of russia against ukraine and see more ukraine and the ukrainian people are the aggressors in this war valery nickname, political and economic expert, head of the charitable foundation, a new road, contact us via skype. greetings, mr. valery, what's up, mr. valery, the real scandals are unfolding around the planning of the leaders of the group of 20 in november, the scandal unfolds against the background of the fact that the indonesians, who are actually being held by you, indonesia, which is presiding over the format this year, invited the russian federation to the summit and apparently received the consent of vladimir

putin for this participation. putin agreed. well, earlier the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, announced that he had received an offer from the leader of indonesia to attend this summit . currently, e-e are hesitating and trying to make the optimal decision with their own participation in the summit at which the president of russia vladimir putin plans to be, toxic for all world leaders, at which none of the world e-e leaders of the civilized world wants to be on the same platform with him. all the more so us president joe biden, at the same time, the problem is that the decision to remove russia from the g20 format, well, hmm, so far, has not found the consensus of all

participating countries, in particular, china has made it clear that it will not support this, what is your prediction how to watch in general, on the prospects of this, by the way, it is interesting, also, will vladimir putin live to the summit of the leaders of the g20 countries, well, predicting putin's life expectancy is a difficult thing, thankless. i think that where he lives, unfortunately, yes, but as for the format itself , i do not rule it out. it's just that there really is certain leaders or certain participants of the g20 format at the level of the presidents of the countries simply will not be, well, of course, if putin comes there physically, then his father will not come there, by the way, well, at least his administration has stated this, it is unlikely that he will be with let's remember, he tried to find some kind of dialogue with him back in december. last year, when the video of putin and baider was shown, because it concerns the

big 20, i know, i would like to be included in this review so that it it really became twenty instead of russia, ukraine was there, although by and large it must be said frankly that it is really the same as china . of this club. well, it is clear that the russian market is very interesting for china and for many other countries, so they will really regulate issues here, you know , such cynical national interests of other members of the club, but politics will be about politics will be one of the key determining factors, however, i think that what will happen is more likely after all, there won't be anyone there, let's see, everything will depend on the situation, how it will develop in ukraine, i have great hope that we will cope with this challenge, especially after the very significant vote in the congress and consideration of other initiatives concerning the future perspective, there are interesting

bills regarding the transfer of assets of russia and municipal assets in ukraine and so on, i.e. there is something to talk about, something to think about, and precisely well, i think this time period of six months closest to the summit, they are many what will change the positions of many during this club? of course they will not fully convince them there, but most likely someone will just happen, i do not rule out the fact that putin will simply refuse people to go to this garden well, i have one in ukrainian, mr. valery, china is supporting russia everywhere, even if cautiously, because i said that we should watch it with the civilized world, but let’s also take the last step, we ’ll just talk about social networks, and on the chinese state channel ictv they showed a map showing which countries will leave the territory of russia after its collapse, i ask our editors to show this map to ukraine, the kursk voronezh and belgorod regions, as well as part of the kuban in belarus, moscow and smolensk in finland, st. petersburg

arkhangelsk of kazakhstan, the urals and western siberia of mongolia, eastern siberia of norway, the north of russia and china, part of the far east of the united states, and another part of the far east. well, at the expense of russian territories, according to this map, latvia, estonia, georgia and azerbaijan should also be expanded. one of the comments in the discussion in social networks about this card is a ukrainian musician and a fighter who now defends ukraine oleksandr polozhynskyi ex-leaders of the tartak band about the fact that it's somehow unfair that ukraine is now doing all the hardest work and the smallest piece will be taken away. what do you think about this map and should it really be taken seriously? well,

i'll start right from the end, because i don't believe in the reliability of this map and the widespread information. because it is more like an interesting kind of propaganda that is useful to us and we really need to understand it, but uh, to understand it is the truth of this information, because it is discussed a lot, my colleagues published it, however, i do not deny the truth of this special because i i believe that any positive news today for ukrainians is worth more than the refutation of some fake in this part of what concerns the lowering of the popularity, lowering of priority and so on russia and the world arena . the map is true, the truth is precisely in the part where a certain territory is drawn that will go to china, which we are talking about, they have already received a large part of the russian federation for use for 49 years, the relevant treaties that are not

are very strongly appealed in the mass media of the world mass media, but signed between them and the chinese are actively working there, cutting down the forest , exporting it to china, processing it there, manufacturing goods with high added value , providing jobs for their citizens, and this is not a secret, these are generally known facts in russia there are even settlement prices where the chinese are failing, that's why this territory has already gone to russia, and everything else well, everything else is very interesting , you know, interesting irony, as for me, that's why map-map in whatever it may be, but it's not by chance that this map appears. it seems to me to have a different, very deep section meaning, because really, the russian federation, which was called after the collapse of the soviet union, somehow united peoples with different mentalities, it had to build some a more or less just state, well, by the example of the same united states of america, where there are also laws of different federal states, eh, in different states,

they act in different ways, eh, they are different in many ways, but they do not violate the single constitution, however, the life of me i think, for example, if we take the united states of america, it is more or less fair. of course, there are different cases of nuances, but generally speaking in our countries, we can say that the democracy of the united states of america is one and one of the best examples of world democracy, as for russia, which i often talk about well, not often , sometimes, more precisely, when relevant discussions took place in the studio, i spoke about, in my understanding , russian-style democracy, because over the long years of putin’s rule, i always advised that he we are building a democratic state where o ok yes you are building, but the point is that you oppose the interests in a very different way in this part . a clear example is the article by defense minister shoigu, which is more precisely an interview with the russian edition of rbc, now in ukrainian russian, which he gave back in september of last year, this is an interview, and there he

talks in detail about the fact that there is a serious problem in russia and the fact that a lot of the working population migrates to moscow and the region or to big cities, like st. petersburg, because that is where it is concentrated the capital that processes is very huge. by the way, the capital produced by the russian federation is hundreds of billions of dollars. every year, the gdp is calculated at 1.7 trillion dollars. this is a very large figure, really, for the sake of truth, 8 times the gdp of ukraine, and the territory is, of course, much larger, but the distribution of benefits is very uneven. well, that's exactly how you know the extractiveness of the distribution. well, it affects the fact that russia in the future really can fall apart, although the world is not really interested in it. why? because russia has a lot of weapons is powerful and today it is easier to control any state with other states in one person, although of course russia is now of the latest model shows that

everything is so simple with me, but i am skeptical about the possible division of russia into such large pieces because after all, it will keep your well, not that unitary but your own territory your own territory although i do not rule out certain e-e departure of the territory, for example, what kind of hypertension on the part of japan is the southern kurils well, it is possible that the chinese side can also claim something but not purely by appearance, you know the approaches of the territory to another country, because this will seriously violate the international order, but the person is cool, in general, it is cool to discuss them, so let 's try to predict how the event may develop further, from the minister of foreign affairs of great britain, alistrasa said that the russian troops should be kicked out with all the territory of ukraine occupied by them, in particular from crimea. and during his speech at the easter banquet, the track said that the victory of ukraine is a strategic imperative for everything

of the event says that the western solution is the defense capabilities of not only ukraine, but also other countries that may face russian aggression, such as georgia, moldova and other countries, and the head of the british foreign ministry noted that sweden and finland should also become full members as soon as possible. nato, if they not only express their desire, but also go through all the necessary related procedures, then let 's try to figure out what significance this speech has for us and, in your opinion, within what borders this war will end for ukraine. we talked a little bit about this map, which is, well, maybe it's a fake. so far, we haven't found confirmation that such a mother was really shown on central chinese television, but the most important thing for us is our map. the main thing is for

ukraine to return its borders to them by 2014, together with crimea and donbas, which is your forecast, mr. valery, but i have no doubt that we will return donbas and the cry is a matter of time closer, further, this is already a matter for discussion, depending on the circumstances, because if you take into account the theory of the state and law, i just happened to be talking about the surface. to the territory and well, not trying to dissect russia, this is really not needed by anyone today. we must establish a world order between return there are generally recognized borders, everything in this matter cannot be discussed. in general, they are recognized after the second world war, they are fixed, they must remain so, russia today claims to violate these she violated the borders because if you take the history of the annexation of crimea, then well, i apologize, but maybe frankly the world did not understand then the threats that

russia poses to all of them. although i allow this option that certain decisions were made consciously, what exactly were the decisions related to the sanctions policy in relation to russia, because it was very weak in 2014. it did not allow the economic machine of the russian federation to be stopped in order to increase its military potential. is it the second army of the world or the third, but their massiveness is quite powerful and it is no coincidence that they just talked about e-e litras, but there is also a statement that we do not rule out the option that on the ninth of may, british intelligence is talking about it, putin may announce a decision on a nationwide mobilization and this means that he does not give up hope to continue his aggressive policy and further, that is, if it was understood abroad and why then they did not provide weapons more in the period before the beginning of the hot phase of the russian-ukrainian the annexation of crimea was more than enough

to understand that the world order of the state is violated, if you violate the border, then all of ukraine is simply obliged and the world is obliged to help ukraine return crimea and this east of the country to donbas and luhansk and luhansk donetsk and luhansk region excuse me, that is, eagle, individual regions, this is so fundamental that we understand that if we violate the basic scientific principles of the formation of the state, then we will violate the world, the world will become chaos, it will destroy itself, and so it really is here, as they say, we like this story or not, but we are forced to go to the edge. how good that today, in principle, the position of even the authorities on this issue is clear and understandable. we just have to defend our territorial integrity. i remember very serious discussions that we had it until the beginning of the hot phase, besides you talked a lot about who was calling whom cancer and tumors cancerous

and so on, but to understand the situation if the state loses at least part of the territory, it means that well, it does not react to it like that. it means what the state puts up with aggression, and the aggressor, in turn, receives an additional incentive to continue its respective actions. well, we are seeing the same thing with russia now, because if, for example, the european union and the rest of the world did not tolerate it, even the mentioned great britain was not caught by russian aggression, which began in 2014, even on for example, before the annexation of crimea, well, i'm sorry, we didn't have such a history today, and such a scale is devastating and human losses are in the war with russia, although, again, i don't rule it out, no, it's not something that is valuable. miscalculation of the event in the part that they could expect such a scenario and of course they were preparing or in this part it is worth mentioning the initiative of the senators of the united states of america who proposed to joe biden in january of this

year to pass a law on led that would provide an opportunity to e -e quickly supply weapons to e-e ukraine and including that and i completely agree with you. thank you very much valery klychok , political and economic expert, head of the new road charitable foundation, he was with us on skype and mr. valery, i hope that in the future, you will be able to tune in to our broadcasts and comment on the main events of international international politics, and right now you are in touch with us olena snyrykh, associate expert of the center for global studies, 21 candidate of political sciences, greetings, ms. olena, good day good day, i'm sorry for having to wait a little and let's let's discuss these aspects that we didn't have time to talk with valery klitschko, and actually regarding the negotiations with the russians , president volodymyr zelenskyy declares the following risks of ending any negotiations with the russian

on the other hand, during a conversation with the polish media , the president of ukraine expressed such an opinion and said that the actual process of negotiations with the russians is now very slow, and that what russia is doing in ukraine, these crimes that it is committing , definitely also blocks any any possibility of finding a consensus on important issues, and there are quite a few of them, these are both humanitarian and other issues that need to be resolved and need to be met in order for the same humanitarian corridors to be yes but nevertheless, the president is talking about what is the feeling that the russians have some method of killing and they act in the same way in certain territories that we de-occupy and liberate and we see the crimes of the occupiers there.

point in russia's war with ukraine, we see that dmytro kuleba, the mfa of ukraine, on friday morning called on the world powers to decide what security guarantees they are ready to provide to ukraine. russia and ukraine, which was supposed to put an end to this war, as well as the global security guarantee, which should act like the fifth article of the relevant nato documents of the relevant guarantees provided within nato to those countries participating in the bloc, what are your expectations? in my opinion, there is no point in conducting any negotiations with russia at all, except for group negotiations regarding the exchange of prisoners, regarding the establishment of some humanitarian corridors, if it is possible, if it is possible, while russia is on the territory of ukraine as occupiers, uh, occupiers, no

negotiations, no negotiations make sense for ukraine, eh, that is, they need to be conducted, but we don’t need to expect much from them, moreover, any documents are signed with the fixation of russia’s interests at the moment when it is on the territory of ukraine it will still mean the actual capitulation of ukraine. well, we understand that the capitulation of ukraine in this case will simply mean a delay, that is, a new war in the near future with an acute, a new exacerbation, a new hot war, and it is not known what will end, that is, it is in our interests now to talk, to conduct negotiations with russia on the battlefield with the help of the weapons that the allies give us and , er, to talk with russia exactly about what well, if we talk, then talk about the fact that russia should just a-a get out of the territory of ukraine to leave and we can

talk, including that we should raise the issue of reparations for contributions, so it is indisputable ms. elena, in fact, a historic decision for ukraine was made this week, the united states passed a law on lend-lease military weapons for ukraine, what do you think? the significance of this moment in the course of welcoming ukraine, the aggressor. and how can we explain that despite the englishman, the nato secretary general and genstoutenberg saying that the war in ukraine can continue with his hands, well, i assess it very positively. that is, it was really long time to take and all those steps that are being done now, they are really late and our allies are also talking about it, but nevertheless hmm, this will give us the opportunity to defeat the russians in ukraine and destroy them with those methods and where we want to ensure

our security is the first thing and we are already talking about it the fact that it will significantly strengthen our anti-aircraft defense is what we need, as far as the statements from tolterb-stoltenberg are concerned, it is really possible that there is a threat if russia manages to resist, well , that is, it is possible that there really is such a scenario and such an option that russia will somehow be able to preserve this war in this form in which it is actually a danger for us in this form in which it was able to maintain the smoldering conflict, the key war in the east of ukraine all these years, that is, the war there lasted all these eight years many people forgot about it, our western partners also forgot about it, nevertheless, the war continued , that is, this is a real danger for ukraine, we cannot

allow such a scenario, and if russia, for example, dares to do so, then it will agree, that is, in fact, it is beneficial for them, that is, they after on the 1st of may, they can announce a general mobilization and fold up and say that well, okay , we have achieved our goal, let's put up now, i'll live amicably, so that is, for us, this is a very bad option, we need to continue the offensive actions to liberate its territory and insist on the capitulation of russia to the western allies are in no case possible cold functions i completely agree with you ms. elena but how do you think the events of this week will affect the er the er will moderate the near future i mean the diplomatic tour of the secretary general, mr. antonio goteres, first to moscow, then to kyiv, at the same time as