chat books of well-known world authors that were published for money or the soros foundation or other charitable charitable foundations and simply burned them , that is, well, he reminded me of the closure of the library of ukrainian literature in moscow. with the sun, absolutely exactly, absolutely exactly , that is, the process of fascism became visible even then, that's just when well, let's say you in your columns, or i mean in your posts, or i, by the way, after the election of he told his western colleagues what to watch . such things happened there. no one wanted to hear it. but we are

unlike over yes and by the way by the way i don't know if the audience knows about it but we have uh-uh many many messages uh-uh means from liberated uh-uh our forces towns and from people who are temporarily under occupation that they are one of the first things they do when they come like this well, when they finish with murders, when they finish with robberies, when they finish with rapes, and often next to that, and they start er-er smashing ukrainian libraries and the first thing they do er-er they just burn books, primarily in the ukrainian language the same thing happens with school and school libraries. sorry, uh, that means libraries. that is, well, classic nazis, classic, like the nazis in germany in the 30s burned books, so they also

burned books from school libraries, from university libraries, and they do the same thing uh therefore, unlike them, we are not at war with cultures, but it is absolutely correct that you ask a question and i completely agree with the last post from the last column of yaroslav hrytsak, who says , in fact, exactly the opposite. er, herman, are you there , maybe germana square is there, it is in kyiv, no, i don’t remember that it was like that either, we don’t even have a square, let’s say it. we invite agnona - he is the only nobel prize laureate in literature born in ukraine, but he is hebrew like they are not writers very noticed by the ukrainian public yes, it is absolutely absolutely absolutely absolutely exactly that's why we don't fight with the sculpture of books and those authors who made really great contributions to world culture should be left behind in our libraries, but i

have already said this and now i will repeat that in my opinion we by the way, you and i have the same basic education, and in my opinion, just right for uh, who specialized in his first education in uh, roman, germanic literature and languages, uh, he was always there, and even in recent years, uh, that means he's in a state of years well even so let's assume that after the orange maidan, there was a disproportionately large number of russian works. in er, it means that school programs are not primarily about literature, and we didn't have them in our children , er, er, it means in contrast to, yes, it means from well, there are opportunities for western european courses. well, they did not turn their attention to the study of very large plastids, just a treasury of the literary

countries of asia, such as japanese literature, chinese literature, that means the countries of southeast asia, and so, listen, there is also a lot of slave language culture well, it’s true that some things are difficult to learn in school, but in universities they are definitely worth studying . and not even the heritage, you know, so to speak, of such a common, still simple cultural space of pez. we slowly left it, but now, of course, this process has accelerated, and i am very happy about that, because i studied everything at the university, just like you and us you and i understand very well well, how many, well, hmm, important works are just treasures of world thought, you can

come to ukraine now, not for a full replacement, but for balance. well, really, you and russian authors, or there are russian composers, they contributed a lot there into world culture, but not so much as in well, we traditionally, so to speak, continued, you know , by inertia to think like that. it should remain , but it should remain, uh, in libraries, uh, but it should not remain on our streets, because well, i think that this is not known to the majority of viewers, but here you and i, as people from the dnipro, know very well that katerinoslav is one of those places where it is really possible to have certain reasons to have a monument to pushkin because he lived there for at least two weeks because he caught a cold while swimming in the

dnieper and spent two weeks in a brothel . well, that’s a known fact. well, it’s a scientific fact that he was there . it means that there were girls who worked in that brothel. they treated him. well, they entertained him. well, it’s for these girls. they began to give the opportunity for russian poetry to continue and not oleksandr, but but, look, well, there is at least some connection, there is one such one of such theories that the famous poem is a quiet ukrainian night, it was written exactly in catherine of slavia, when pushkin was ill there. well, well, well, at least what is the connection but well, everything else is not very clear. leo tolstoy, so he fought, he fought in the ukrainian crimea, uh, that means during this mountain of the crimean war, and it was there that the exclusively humanistic nature of his works, his philosophy, which actually had an impact on and world philosophy as well as world literature, but a

lot of authors really have nothing to do with ukraine, there is no connection with ukrainian culture . luckily, our schoolchildren and students there studied much more ukrainian a-a but nevertheless, i believe that it should be rebalanced er, not what you know here cancel well, this is funny because in fact we are actually this nazi russia that attacked ukraine today is very weak. it has to do with the same russian empire. i do not idealize the russian empire at all . it oppressed the ukrainians. it took away, banned the ukrainian language, it introduced serfdom in ukraine, and so on, and there are also many crimes, but what a

bolshevik. russia, what does it have to do with the internet, nor the russian soldiers who came to lviv. before the first world war, they did not kill people here in the same way that russian soldiers kill people in buch, these are completely different things. absolutely exactly and now i am saying that literally two days ago i have oleksandr tkachenko there with the british parliamentarians and with the british news, that is, well, we are public organizations that are engaged in the support of libraries well, we talked about all our losses in library funds and so on. well, we talked about a lot more and about our museum losses. unfortunately, we also have people. unfortunately, we already have losses in the field of culture. did n't people leave their jobs and die because of this there are also librarians, museum workers and people who

worked in culture, well, this is a separate topic, but i said then that they are now trying to go again on this old mare, you know. to do concerts there, but let's give tchaikovsky, let's give it swan lake well, as always, it's not news, and i'm telling the collegium that dear friends, tchaikovsky does not belong to russia, and we ask, if you and your audience want to listen tchaikovsky let him british musicians will play, it would be optimal if you would invite ukrainian musicians from the ukrainian opera house or any

good quality ukrainian orchestra there to play tchaikovsky together with the british. which are not worse and are just, well, close to the great works of the year, but we are not at war with culture, we are at war with those who represent this nazi country, so they should not be allowed to join the civilized countries, because there really is collective responsibility. well, we understand that the one who killed, tortured and robbed in buch was not really listening to tchaikovsky, but he was listening to this russian papacy from which we, those who killed in germany, made decisions about the final decision . they listened to wagner incessantly, it does not interfere when there is no conscience well, of course,

but still, nazi germany had certain differences because, well, this nazism is, well, it is so beastly primitive that at least pretend to be some kind of, you know , intellectual search, they guessed there their philosophies there, they guessed their marian science there, they invented their religious cults there, and on nerves, because we remember it all like this and these eyes are completely primitive well, well, this is equals so i say russian in russian back and er, it means russian books there, which means deaf vs. on these titles or there it means to read, but it was not distributed anywhere all these years, there were millions of copies

, so it all appeared to be an apologetic of the gulag. well , everything is modern, yes, it means an apologetic of criminality, an apologetic of constant revisions of history. uh, he is very talented , so our freelance ukrainian journalist made it huge, they couldn’t even print it completely, because the magazine is limited, uh, limited area , uh, it’s just a near-year review of russian yes so-called fantastic works means with an alternative history of god, that is, well, even i am there, that means, well, a person who is interested in, well, many things that perhaps today do not seem necessary, and then it seems that what to accept and i studied it. i had no idea how many titles there are, what editions of books that

they are completely revising what uh-uh in which they complain that or- why didn't we and hitler agree on this , if we had hitler and i, we would have crushed the anglo-saxons, it would have been like that, it would have been wonderful, it would have been a wonderful life, so it would have been with these jews as well we are hitler resolved the issue would mean finally i'm not kidding, i know it's the same as today the chairman of the state duma of the russian federation is afraid of ukrainians and says that we learned english when we fought with hitler and the island, the result was that they smuggled us to the united states, they gave money so it's not a fantasy, even this state position by the way, i wanted to ask about the state position and now move on to information policy, this story, so to speak, i am sure that there should be more ukrainian that ukraine should speak with a single voice in television broadcast but in different forms because it is also a great alternative to this russian propaganda, which we can now say is happening in the occupied territories and in the world, there is what happened with three channels among them is espresso

the fifth direct with the exclusion of them from t-2m that we we've been talking for a week in a row, and it's not just us, i'm downloading it for you, but today i was on the air , people stopped me on the street and said it was a shame that you were disconnected from t-2, ordinary people who are immigrants , and who understand it, it turns out better than ukrainian politicians well, look at the level of ukrainian politicians, we are still dealing with this situation for the first time, it's one or two. so we're looking for a way out, and i personally stand by the idea that, well, first of all, i want to say that i believe that the marathon has justified itself. it still justifies it, because there are many reports that when in the cities that were temporarily under occupation, the mobile signal disappeared , but the television signal was breaking through, so

people received the marathon, which means at least some information. of course, this is not it clearly worked everywhere but i believe that at the national level, this is my personal opinion, and i always stand by it, and we, well, i constantly ask the question that we should continue to look for a way out in this direction, so that this marathon is built so that all the channels that want to join it are not just somehow formal there means er there as they say to all the sisters but to join fully they should get such an opportunity and i believe that we can find such an opportunity at the er level national because in fact, the fact that we have e-channels, all of them have preserved the

broadcast means on the satellite on youtube. it is very good, but it is not complete . what i think he will only benefit from this. when it is possible that more than one channel of the marathon will not be there, it is possible that it will mean more, and it will be like that, the rod of the marathon, so to speak, yes, it means informational, but there will be, but there will be a greater contribution, more the contribution of broadcasters we really need to save everything now the national broadcasting of our national channels, which we had before the war, scientifically. therefore, it is necessary to preserve the regional broadcasting, which means uh. why, firstly, because now we are fighting for that and here we had a meeting of three committees, the committee on international affairs, the committee on european integration and of our

committee on humanitarian information policy, it was literally on thursday, we are currently finalizing the last edition in honor of our appeal to the parliaments of european and international organizations and the final reaction to our decision and uh, we are about what do we say? it is about the state, so turn it off. better take it. take the ukrainian channel, they are no worse than the russian ones, and if we say that, then it is clear that we must preserve our national broadcasting, multi-colored, multi-channel, so that if we, well, if we ask that in those

they shut us down and we were launched, well, we have to propose. so who should be launched? well, of course, as for the regional one, the situation is different there, now i hope that we will finalize the law very quickly, because there is no money at all. well, it is clear that it is also national. the same situation in the regions in it is even more difficult in the regions, and there are many questions regarding the extension of the license, we have to postpone payments for it because people work well, it’s just not about salary, people work for free , performing their civil and professional duties duty to the local communities and to the audiences for which they work. so , no matter how difficult it is now, no matter how difficult the situation is now, we must not leave these acute questions that there are and we have

to find solutions and implement these solutions. i hope that we will be able to do this for the benefit of ukraine, for the benefit of our national interests, including national security and defense, but also for the benefit of democracy. we differ from the katsapna crazy yak rested on our land because we have freedom of speech because we have democracy because we have human rights because we have pluralism even because we sometimes fight each other now there is a war now we are all united but they differ even in this thank you thank you because it was mykola mykita paturaev, people's deputy of ukraine, chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on humanitarian and

information policy. deputy director of the center for international security congratulations , mr. mykola. good evening. all the occupied territories, including the donbass, crimea, victoria 's statement that if russia uses nuclear weapons , it will never recover from it in our lifetime. even putin, and russia itself is tough no one in the west made a statement before, even during i would say 60 days of this war no one made this literally a statement in the last 6 days what has changed yes yes i would say radically there was a clear statement from the british about what we can apply provided by them weapons for attacks on russian territories, it is also nice to emphasize that there are no restrictions. well, we really see that

the position of the west is changing and it is clear. why is it changing? it is the result of the successful actions of the ukrainian armed forces, that is, the ukrainian of the armed forces, is there any resistance, they tried to lose the enemy, they are defending our country, they prove that russia can be defeated, or between russia and russia some kind of great military effort. it was more of a bluff . politicians because really, if at the beginning of the conflict they had the mining registration, they really had the point of view that everything could end here in a few days, and that is why they thought several times whether it is necessary to help ukraine really. well they probably do not clearly see that ukraine will fight in any case with their help, even without their help, the ukrainians were still not without opposition. well, they see why this resistance is successful and, accordingly, feel that they

can really make their contribution to provide assistance in our struggle and, accordingly, the russians cannot prevent them from doing this, the fact that russian officials now talk about the use of nuclear weapons almost not every day, but today there was a statement that we must prevent the use of nuclear weapons, yesterday there was lavrov's statement the day before yesterday was putin's statement that such a near eternal response will be given with such a weapon that no one knows about, but everyone will find out. everyone understands what the daily threats of nuclear weapons are about, i will tell you honestly. i followed the soviet foreign policy during the times of the ussr and there was no such thing there. believe me, you know. in my opinion, when there are a lot of threats, this is precisely the first thing and proves that the other side is not ready to carry them out. will not threaten."

only a new one can cause such anger. ukrainians have such a threat, and secondly, she does not understand that for western countries, tactical or strategic nuclear weapons are all the same, and for russia, this also separates these two types of weapons, and they believe that tactical nuclear weapons can

to try to use it in some situations, and the west believes that this is a crime in any case for any civilized state, it can be replaced by human history in general. nuclear weapons were used only twice in 1945, but hiroshima and nagasaki, and at the same time, it was applied when humanity did not yet know the real effect of its use, that is, these issues of radiation shoulder disease, that is, now it really was like this, and the use of any format of nuclear weapons from accordingly translates the regime to the status of an indisputable pai pair. well, really again, it is a strategic idea, a weapon, they cannot use it, because it will exclude a chain reaction and lead to the already mentioned consequences. and what is tactical? well, again, frankly, especially this one. apply because it is a really binding point of view , even if they really wanted to do it, well, it will not give any advantages, only this negative from the point of view of the image, although it seemed where is still further, but

it will be even worse, thank you, thank you, mr. mykola, we had it. here is mykola zamikula senior researcher of the national institute for tragic studies deputy director of the center of international security and i say goodbye to you in this part of the broadcast and wait for our continuation of the broadcast and news release until the meeting of the espresso tv channel in the morning 24 in february, the russian nazis began their denazification of my city, the first enemy shells flew into our military town and the vorzel military unit. 24 morning experience. so when they started killing a guest, i had to take the son of our grandmother, er, another neighbor, and

she went to lviv, a picture from the first day of the war, which forever imprinted under the explosion under the siren. my child clung to our dog simba and cried loudly for everything. mom, i ask that you survive and come to me not only you, but also with our dog and simpa not only i survived and left brovary. i fulfilled what i promised my child. my name is diana chechenina and i have

been working for espresso for 5 years. projectiles , it caught fire. i almost lost my apartment, which was looted by orcs. my road from buchi to kyiv is 9 hours long, and the road from kyiv to lviv is even longer. what will our country be like for our children this country must continue to be free and when they deprive us of digital broadcasting a little bit we become like a little bit and it scares our enemy in russia i turn to the ministry of the interior national security and defense council national council on television and radio broadcasting i am a journalist i am a mother i am ukrainian i remain in

ukraine i have no combat experience but i know how to fight and defeat the enemy in the information war i am asking you to restore broadcasting of the espresso tv channel in order to win this war together president zelenskyi put espresso back on the air let's protect the information front together glory to ukraine i myself am from irpen and when the war started it was february 24 i am from the village of nizhnya sirovatka, sumy oblast, two months ago, none of us could have imagined that small villages in

sumy oblast would become the epicenter of world events together with my family. i left the town of irpinets, a suburb of kyiv, on the fourth day of the war, february 27 when the advanced units of the russian occupiers were already entering the city, machine-gun fire could be heard . on the same day, my house was destroyed . my house was partially destroyed. you know me as the host of the espresso tv channel. today, i am a displaced person . together with antin burkovskyi in this studio since autumn , two hours of air time every week we tried to devote exactly to the topic of war when western intelligence already started to tell us in detail how putin will kill ukrainians i can't even now to return to my hometown, but i had hope that i would

return at least one of my previous life, this is my favorite job, we are lucky, my family is safe now and i continued to work where i am needed on the espresso tv channel, but unfortunately, on april 4 of this year, the state concert rrt disconnected the espresso tv channel from the crooked broadcast of t2 to lviv in order to continue working, but you are my current dream, one small one, not even to return home, but at least to have one normality to work first, the russian authorities took away in my house and the opportunity to live in my hometown, now the ukrainian authorities are trying to take away the opportunity to work in my profession