military aid, as well as humanitarian aid, ordinary estonian people do not just wish you well, they send you medical equipment, various things that you need now, you and i, thank you, mr. ambassador, thank you to estonia for the help we receive . the direct connection was extraordinary and the plenipotentiary ambassador of the republic of estonia spoke about how estonia helps ukraine, how it supports us, this is quite difficult. no, not just, not just me it's a difficult time and how are we trying together to resist the russian invasion that began on february 24. how will we win together with all of europe? well, i have to conclude with this. my name is yuriy fizer. see you during the war

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of speech in to ukraine a-a good evening to everyone who watches us, the broadcast of the proverb espresso er-e in this hour my name is andriy saichuk and for the next 2.5 hours we will watch the news together with you and discuss with our experts, in particular, yuriy fizer , it is absolutely very interesting now, the interview of the ambassador of estonia . i remind you that in principle we have already talked about this. and also per capita, they help us ten times more, no , the united states, i will explain once again, the united states gives much more, but the united states, this giant country, estonia is very small, and therefore this is actually the weight of everyone, it is the most especially from estonia well, of course, different cynical people there will say that well, of course, they are afraid of the sun so that later they will be the next ones. well, to be honest, i am skeptical of the conversations, because

you know we have moldova, which is also under threat, there are plans to take over moldova and transnistria, well, they are not hidden at all, even by the military leadership of the aggressor country of the so-called russian federation. and with all this, moldova, which is not protected by the fifth article, for example, nato, is doing it to help ukraine. well let's say a little less than nothing well, let's get straight to the news for sure, we have news, let's start with this news, it is very fresh, the deputy commander of the azov regiment svyatoslav palamar e kalyna reported that ukrainian fighters reached zavaliv on the 20th azovstal and handed over civilians for evacuation to the controlled territory of ukraine the source is actually the zov regiment in the telegram, well, we can listen to the viburnum actually. glory to ukraine, e.e. reports

to the public about the process of evacuating civilians and wounded servicemen from the territory of the azovstal plant, she worked all night on the territory of the plant barrel enemy artillery, which caused new collapses, new destruction, the silence regime that was supposed to begin at 6:00 began only at 11 o'clock, and that's the truth, as of now, both sides have been observing the silence regime since six in the morning, we were waiting for the arrival of the evacuation column, which arrived only 6:25 p.m. as of 7:40 p.m. we transferred to the agreed place 20 civilians who managed to be freed from under the zavals, they are women and children, and we hope that those people will go in the agreed direction, namely zaporizhzhia, to the territory controlled by ukraine we have now a special rescue

operation is still being carried out by the forces of the azov regiment soldiers, where we are pulling civilians out of the rubble with ropes, these are women, the elderly, these are women and children, and we hope that this process will be continued. e evacuate all civilians in relation to the wounded e these are people who need the necessary medical assistance but we do not know why they are not taken away and there is no question about them at all regarding their evacuation to the territory under the control of ukraine, i emphasize that we we are asking you to guarantee the departure of not only civilians, but also the wounded of our servicemen, who are among the servicemen who need medical assistance. well, this is the appeal, and now i immediately greet serhiy

taran, a political scientist, a deputy of the kyiv city council, mr. serhiy. good evening, i am all at once. i will start with this hot information. and i hope you have also heard it. no, i don't know. there is even information that pope francis even asked putin and the russian leadership three times to allow at least to take out those people who are there, civilians who found themselves in a terrible situation as hostages, in fact, of these constant bombardments of his shelling on azovstal and why is this why not to release the civilians if however, the goal of the meeting, in particular, is the question of the removal of civilians from mariupol and on the same day, i arrived in kyiv right in the exact russian missile attack on the city of kyiv and theoretically they sacrifice the hospihu and attacks therefore i do not know another country

that shows a majority for attention to international institutions to international public authorities than russia, so there is nothing to be surprised about. if russia were another country, it would not have started this war , there would be no problems at all. you know, now russia is becoming such a metaphysical hack for the whole world. of the united nations as the catholic church in the fact that russia is a country like this in general, if you can't conduct absolutely evil in it, any kind is completely worthless, absolutely nothing, well, it's like that, i don't know. there is such a thing as kutspad and hutzpap. some uh absolutely cynical absolutely exclusively such hooligan behavior is aggressive and well, it doesn’t look like it is simple well, it has become a state doctrine

in the principle of international relations of the russian federation, but what are they achieving with it? well, i just can’t understand it, well, it must be some kind of surplus. well, they see that this policy is not working very well. well, okay, you’re talking there, maybe it’s not so important. well, there is, for example, the same biden . people in what is the power of the place, the behavior is dictated by only one person, not by the russian federation, not by the russian citizen of one person in the head, whose sick ideas are such behavior is the norm, but putin imagines that it is necessary to agree, because otherwise he will be considered a weak leader. this is how you must behave, otherwise someone will to think that the rocks have become rational, this is his sick behavior, of course, the russians themselves are responsible for this, who allow

such a dictate in this country, but decisions are all decisions, but you know, we often make a mistake when we analyze russia, or not only russia, we still believe that the logic of rationalism, which is inherent to us, that logic is deaf to some kind of morality in a healthy person, it is inherent in everyone, but now we are trying to apply this logic to activity and it does not work, but it has its own logic , and it has its own mythology that lives in in some strange world that he has invented, he is playing little soldiers, which he simply does not consider to be human beings, and even more so, he does not consider other citizens to be human. ugh, this is his morality, this is his logic, and according to this logic, he acts correctly. well, this is such a sick person a person, that is, you just have to treat it with understanding and with understanding it can only be that such people understand only the forces of agreement, we, well, you say that russia is becoming such and such a

pariah country and a country with which no one has seen and does not want to do business. we will soon be to have a summit of the g20 in indonesia, since indonesia is the head , it even managed to send putin's invitation. as we know, he seems to have accepted it as well . well, it is very interesting that this visit by putin will still take place on the one hand, and on the other hand, or will fly there. for example, zelensky, who still does not leave his residence and his bastions in kyiv, of course. he promised that he would not leave kyiv. well, you know, who is saying this for real? in any case, we have to see how effective the steps are now with regard to the russian federation . well, you know that politicians around the world do not determine the intensity and do not determine the policy; they are determined by the leading countries that take measures presented

of the russian federation, of course, are not as effective and not as fast, if we wanted, there are no questions, i would like it to be faster and more effective even two or three years ago, but they still use it, and i want to draw attention to the fact that the west is currently considering several very effective things that should restrain the russian federation, regardless of where putin will go, for example, now the embargo on the russian federation is being seriously considered, that is, for years if you are in europe like this week, there may already be a plan for such a strategic decision, then this is half of the of russian oil revenues, which it has, that is, half of the oil dollars it will receive from purchases with european countries, this half will no longer be the main printing money in russia, about russian artichokes will be forgotten. well, the decision at the

rammstein military base, you’re going to screw up the military ministers of defense of more than 40 countries, decided to provide ukraine with culture. who does it matter? well, in fact, there are things that touch putin somewhere on the internet like it wouldn't be important. so for this putin, they don't really decide in russia, they isolate in russia, they fence off the deep and with a group horn for the russian federation . ukraine and these will be the leaders of the european future, which sooner or later it will be. so in the future, and in russia, we must buy this. at the international level of the cells - this is absolutely not resolved during the life of russia in general. well, what we see now, in particular, and at the front. as far as i

understand, the situation there uh-uh, well, it came to this before the positional war in our country, the aa front was determined . as far as i understand from reading uh-uh military experts, primarily now. in fact, this is a confrontation between intelligence and artillery, and there is no such superiority of forces in order for the russians, for example, in some areas to pass a little at a time, sometimes two or three kilometers per day, but i understand that at the same time, the losses are not very large, but they are not they simply feel sorry for this manpower, and the ukrainians, on the contrary , usually save their forces, they are obviously preparing for this fresh reinforcement, already with new equipment and here that must be taught to learn to master it, but anyway, most likely on may 9 , some kind of turning point neither for ukraine nor for but why do you agree with the fact that on may 9, since putin thinks faster? well, mythologically, for

him, this is the day of a certain fork in the road. he must take some step to do something, dare not only military experts and politicians talked about the fact that these few weeks are decisive, so if putin does not change anything in these couple of weeks, then it will be a loss, this does not mean that the situation will fall into deaf ears, because we receive very serious military support, our soldiers will learn to work on western weapons, and these weapons will essentially break the spine of the russian army in the east. everyone understands that, so i think that then he will rush to resolve these military issues by may 9, but as we can see, something is not going very well. therefore, if not now putin is doing very well in the east. this does not mean that the war is standing still, it means that we are winning, time is working for us now, i am here to support absolutely everyone who says that the coming weeks are decisive. if putin does not advance further

, i think that here will be to look for another way out of the situation because everything that happens next will work against him because if the war of artillery artillery is already in a few weeks, i think it is clear to everyone that it will definitely be in our case, why did serhiy taran join us thank you mr. serhiy, a political scientist, applications and councils, and in the meantime, we continue our broadcast. dear dear friends, please do not forget to really sign our petition. i was gone for a few days. i will now check what happened here. there were more than 5,000 signatures. i already think that there should be a minimum of 20,000 petition for return this is how it is done, we simply collect a petition for return to the air of the direct fifth and so on about the return of the digital air of ukrainian tv channels here we are, let's see what we have what we have what we have with the petition a-a listen, it's weak 7,800

you don't want us to go back to t2. well, what's going on, dear colleagues? well, that's not how it's done in our country. i'm really asking you to go and sign this petition. 7,800 have been collected in uh. of course, we have time. well, let's hurry up. and let's type. let there be some kind of answer. okay, well , in the meantime, we are moving on. also, you probably already know about the odesa airport. take-off and landing strip this is the information by the way, we can listen now to what the head of odesa e.e. maksym marchenko says about it, the military administration struck from the territory of the temporarily occupied crimea with a coastal

missile complex, the bastion runway of the odesa airport was destroyed, thank god no one was hurt in the region sabotage measures, they are carried out in order to ensure the maximum safety of the residents of odesa during the extended curfew, please take care of yourself together with understanding victory glory to ukraine glory to the heroes and i also want to say that we have interesting information, where is it? tell me, it is important. i already see it, but the hero of ukraine, stepan tarabavka, is not the reason for kyiv

, and he did not shoot down 40 planes, that is what the air force command says. well i pro-quote that once again we ask the ukrainian community not to neglect elementary rules of information hygiene and not to pass off wishful thinking to check sources of information before disseminating the hero of ukraine stepan tarabalka, the ghost of kyiv, he is not shot down 40 planes on march 13, 22, major stepan tarabalko heroically died in air combat with the overwhelming forces of the russian invaders. well , they also say that stepan tarabalko actually became the personification of heroic ukrainian pilots who, in very difficult situations, continue to fight in the air and win for ukraine and defense and er and also attack er position of the enemy well, here is the story and i understand that we have the next guest, this is yuriy ignat, the spokesman of the air force command of the

armed forces of ukraine, mr. yuriy good evening christ was born but i already know that mr. yuriy from the lviv region is always welcome here, these days are also welcome that's right, yuriy, well, we started here with this story about the ghosts of kyiv well, i confess what , for example, well, i understood almost there well, maybe not from the first day well, somewhere on the fifth day, i realized that this is what if what if this is a myth that appeared more in social networks and very quickly the number reached 40 mythical reasons for kyiv. i understand that this is normal because it is such folklore for sure . arises by itself arises by itself during war and why was it necessary to give this refutation now, why is it important, well, this is a refutation for today, we are already there, in addition to this, we still ask you not to spread information about the fact

that pilots are already training on the f16 and there are already stealth flights in lviv there in kyiv, well, it's all the people. well, they really pass off wishful thinking, but as for the reason, well, in the end, we never confirmed, well, actually, we never denied, especially because you rightly say that the legend is the dispute of the ukrainian hero , she captured ukrainian hearts, the people saw for themselves how our pilots are fighting heroically, he called them ghosts and in fact, everyone who appeared was a material about a pilot. what kind of pilot did he die or perform a truly heroic deed ? to say well, uh, and oksanchenko is also the hero of the execution, he was christened then with excuses and so on. this is the first re-national image of our defenders, our fighter pilots, and they selflessly go into battle with the overwhelming forces of the

enemy. all the heroes. actually, from the very beginning, a month and a half ago, we said that this is still a collective image, but, well, it continues to live its own life, if the british newspaper the times wrote about it, the ghost is even put up for auction. already, that is, you understand, well, the people create such news for themselves, just as they want our pilots to train on the f-16 as soon as possible , no decisions have been made, we have already sent them to study and they are already flying with us all over the internet and are not studying that's the story well, she already said even about the f-35 that already, i just even looked at the f-35 that was owned, it seems like something like 48 months, the training program, well, the base. well, i think that it is actually possible. military time, it will be a shortened time, and it’s like so to speak, well, from scratch there. if we talk about

training, if the pilot is already experienced and has piloting skills, then retraining is required for him. we have generals, today’s colonels, what kind of pilots they all were in their time. how do we sometimes write about them? mastered 5 6 7 each types of aircraft, ranging from helicopters to fighter jets, that's why we had such a combat training center in mykolaiv, where people are retrained for another type of aircraft, it may be a little more difficult, that is, foreign equipment, but our pilots do not have problems with this, the problem is ours alone we need to get it and today we started incorrectly, before that we mentioned on the air that foreign equipment is already hitting the occupier and hitting it very seriously eh. today eh, we already have a lot of food. is the air defense of the ground forces of the airborne assault troops, which have or are armed with the most researched and missile systems that

can shoot down from any position on the front line , and today we have already shot down seven drones of these eagle devices, this is the first news and for you what we did not release two planes of the e-e su-25 assault reaction form, that is, to date, all of this has been shot down with the help of actual transportation and missile systems, the land-based sand akm-osa works well, and of course air air force is also because it is nice that it is foreign equipment that is starting to work eh i am talking now about the air force yes we say artillery eh it is also a very important extremely important component but at the same time the air force and we are the air force whose task is eh more large-scale this is the shooting down of high-altitude targets such as well and such over 5-6-7 thousand km and at a range of up to 70 to 100 km we need exactly such means the air force has

not yet received well modern weapons it is clear that on all diplomatic fronts the military is talking about this with our partners, and we hope that such modern technological weapons will still be provided to us, no matter how much, so that we can still cover the sky . mr. kirby, the pentagon spokesman, is training the ukrainian military, in particular with regard to the newest air defense systems, is it possible to assume that? well, for now, we will not comment on what kind of talks and training are going on, definitely. we will say that we will send our specialists er, where we will be offered, where they will offer us, and we will have a result in any countries where there is

in service and the equipment that we would like and plan to get, these are nato countries, this is romania, poland is uh, germany, the united states, wherever we are ready to send the stupid kharkiv university. you will understand now in which zone this is our air force profile sheet. that's what we have to. well, from there , after all, we have to send it to study for a new technique and i hope it will be implemented in the near future. yuri well , well, that's how i am now i see such a funny meme you can say when he walks on the internet in english, he says something like how many tanks the unit is there ukrainians ask how many tanks do you need and the ukrainians answer eu well, well, actually , you need as much as you can, everything will be fine, and accordingly well, if we are talking about such systems as petriv, well, because there is my father-in-law, he descends every other day with a victorious look, he says everything, the patriots are already going, uh, well,

how true is it, this is such an incredible, incredible reinforcement, and how many such petrivs do we need ? i would like to use-, well, in fact, everything you say to close with them is clear in us, uh, you don't need to understand. i already said that the air force is not only there, there are planes, yes, revolutions connect them with planes, this is, missile complexes are locators , yes, radar units, this is intelligence, this is rap , and extremely important things so that our kind of armed forces is fully functioning, and it gives out the information that is needed and had and the weapons. we wanted about petre, we discussed many years before this conflict of large-scale aggression, we had a vision of the air force, what is this vision, where we prescribed uh, how we should rearm by 2030, for the long term, it was written there, or

ukraine is creating a modern content missile complex uh well, actually, the production is at the more powerful kb pivdenna bkpluch, and they both state that the company can create such a modern complex that will not be inferior to the world analogue, well, actually, it is so far the level of statements is what they can do. there are some plans, there are some video materials that they demonstrated at exhibitions and so on. here is either this vat or there will be an option after all to purchase the petri and which are not only complexes for shooting down air targets, such planes, but also a system of that is, anti-missile defense, its missiles are fast, they can catch up with cruise missiles, missiles of operational-practical complexes and others, actually, there were two ways, uh. if we are going to talk about that one of the most expensive in the world. how quickly we can use it under the given conditions of the current situation,

we won't be able to put it into service, that's why it's important for today, what's important for us today - it's still to replenish the stock of soviet complexes that we have for improving the main it was m1 and s300, you know , man, slovakia has already provided us with a complex, and this is already, so to speak, a well-trodden path for others. central europe has such weapons today. maybe, uh, somewhere on the slopes of that, it would be useful to replenish and replenish the potential. us ammunition because we release missiles every day , we even need to replenish more, we need to take from there, and we considered it as an option, and the president already announced in the norwegian parliament that we need such a complex as on sens, it is norwegian, norwegian, full of american missiles there with different ranges they are an aviation missile for all of them, you can have up to six six launch containers in a charged state and it is extremely

mobile, it can work from bases, and we can affect these complexes, in principle, not for a long time how to master the day and it is also probably useful and effective and would help you very seriously to do it literally we have a minute left, however , now the situation at the front i understand that such a positional e is a confrontation er-e the russians are very weakly promoting it and well, if at the expense of heavy losses. well, to what extent. what we read from the reports is accordingly. they now have a huge number of concentrated attack aircraft, but i understand that they simply can not, well, fly them behind the front line and from afar they are fired untargeted is it really so? is

it all related to the work of our pcs? yes, the aviation architect is a missile of the type ha, what kind of rocket do they launch ? it’s smart, it takes its course and a special course is set. it can bypass our air defense systems, that is, if the enemy’s intelligence knows where our complexes are currently concentrated. it can fly around them knowing our weak points, of course they are chki eh and that's exactly how these missiles have a range there of 2.5 to 5,000 km, well, this is one type of ammunition, in fact, the non -aimed ones you say are on the territory already under their control on the ground, this mariupol and izyumshchyna er, well, in the east, where is their kpu system, in fact, there they use their own aviation weapons, such as er, well, 22m3, which bomb er, that azovstal on a daily basis well, that is, it is their own