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answers and are they afraid that the official ukrainian government does not comment on this? well, people, you are wondering what is happening, uh , the general answer to your several questions. the fact that putin is doing everything right, well, let's say this from the beginning, er, about the fact that 870 90% of russians support this special operation . fact uh, sociology in a totalitarian country is uh, oxymoron, well, imagine that uh, in stalin 's soviet union or hitler's reich, someone went uh to houses or called on the phone and
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asked, "do you support uh, yes ?" to say hitler's policy or they became accordingly, well, it's funny, yes, the example is exactly the same, well, in the soviet union, sociology was prohibited by bourgeois science in 1929, and in hitler's reich, there was no sociology either, but uh, in russia today, there is social science, but these are the data that she survey sociology gives what is called absolutely false data, you don't need to pay attention to them, that is, initially. well, somewhere around 30-40% supported uh, about 20 percent were against it, and the rest didn't care at all, and they were busy with their lives, not for them i considered the tragedy of ukraine to be no future, no mariupol , none of this was present, the awakening of those people who initially supported putin's aggression. it did not happen
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because, well, life became worse without with the only exception, life in russia has become worse, but not so much that it has hit the brain and that somewhere in the consulate really serious weight loss will begin , speaking of it, that is, five percent unemployment, it is already serious if putin is doing it to putin. he is not going anywhere. in any case, he will raise the level of demand in the war and, er , the amount of cargo will increase by 200, and this is also another additional sobering factor. that is, i think that the first signs of er, that is, changes in consciousness at the points of the consulate are very important. here tell us something like that, too, at the level of feeling , because in real life it is possible otherwise to say
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something, express yourself in ukraine, the question is discussed quite intensively, the question of whether putin will conduct mobilization, he will not conduct it, it is possible that all mobilization is impossible, and this is roughly what you say, and it is discussed they are saying listen to this ego will give it to the electorate, people don't want it, that is, people can support the war at a distance, lying on the couch, but if i'm actually lying on the couch, tomorrow they'll tell me to go fight, i won't go i won't send my son to fight either, and the fun is already over. what is the probability of general mobilization ? his head is absolutely insane, it's possible. i'm not going to predict what's
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going on in the head of this deeply lonely person. it means that if he really goes for mobilization, for that, you need to declare war. forget about this special operation , so that's it. the field of the swastika will be pushed somewhere behind eh and will declare a full-fledged war, which means saying that you already know everything now, you are ignorant. with the words i am asking. that is, they are people, after all, is it not correct? i understood that people do not want to fight, they want to watch some war game on a computer, somewhere, someone somehow solves the problem in ukraine for them. but if i go there, then i will not i want to go there, and my parents are against it, and i am against my son going there, and so on далее that is, this is the mood, it is correct
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. in the 14th and 15th 16th hours on the streets of moscow and other years of russia, there was a huge amount of these ribbons of st. george's coloradas . here are these special features practically in moscow, there is no one there on the so-called official sites public transportation means where are you still, well, here during these demonstrations, by the way, pervomaisk, in russia, that is, there were several demonstrations in the regions, there were no demonstrations in moscow, well, this is half a swastika z it is practically absent from the evidence of the fact that in general there is some kind of mass support about
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which the tvs are talking about, which are talking about something, there are no questions, so i think that in general this is the scale. mr. igor, please tell me, but by the way, on may 9, they say that putin is planning to announce a general mobilization. well, let's look at these rumors, so far as the media write, there is no confirmed information about it. you said that by the ninth of may, specifically on victory day, this is the path that ochen likes to demonstrate there's always uh, technical advice shows all its power, such successes in ukraine, he's going to show it, and whether it will be symbolic for him at this moment, it's very symbolic, of course, for that, it's very important, but uh, real resources for that in order to get some real disruptive results that can be presented, of course,
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putin does not have any, so how is he going to demonstrate the great victory on may 9, i have no idea, well, now, some provocations are being discussed in transnistria eh means eh well, it will definitely be completely insane to arrange all the second fronts to start a war against moldova and finally stop eh committing the madness that does not stop at ukraine and starts fighting with moldova, well eh, it will remain, although of course i consider the probability of this to be very low, so i think that there will be no military success, and the main success that putin can get is a war against the inward-looking people against the fifth column, against those who disagree, so to speak , some people who they do not support this, here, it can be easy
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victory, thank you, yes, igor yakovenko, a journalist , former two odessa, i do not think that the russian federation, and we all here are counting on him in the case of this terror, which he said, which can be against the fifth column putin that he will avoid the fate of these people who without a doubt can be unpleasant for putin and unpleasant people cannot be putin often go to prison and sometimes die not by their own death terrible i say but that's how russia lives so far and everyone came from mykolaiv with a peculiar language of ukraine in september, as always, i will allow myself to be the first to ask a question, and mr. mykola, you know, you know, to a question, and to laugh, today i read as you know and all our viewers, yesterday in lviv was angelina jolie of the famous hollywood actress a-ah and she is a un envoy and she
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visited the volunteer headquarters of the children's humanitarian headquarters in the hospital for immigrants. and here's what happened in russia for some reason. by the will of the un, angelina jolie was called to ukraine to divert attention from the evacuation of civilians from mariupol. a mistake, all the people who are trying to find some logic, some reason, inconsistency, some kind of something similar to some such ordinary human thoughts . this is all not for the russians, not for the russians, and that's why i every
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day . russian yes, and we, like every day to me or i or i my wife or my daughter they all tell me and show me thank god there are means of information exchange now and they are modern to me for example, this is not what impressed me er-e high cathedral choir academic russian choir performed a beautiful song about the fact that our submarine will now hit washington with nuclear missiles, and the chorus is takoy means it's the chorus of the captain trulyal trulyal всё mogu for 3 rubles, that is, for 3 rubles he can destroy humanity yes and well, how can that be well, how can you explain it when the president of the russian federation, his ministers of foreign affairs lie all the time, it's not that they lied and then they don't
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lie, then again no, they don't do that, every word is a lie, moreover, the whole world already knows that you're a lie, who are you lying to, well, you have to lie so that someone would believe, but only the russians believe and the most believe, well, how to say the russian establishment, the same maria zakharova who says от это оны отвлекают защение and somehow more ridiculous, to put it mildly , and ridiculous that it's just that it seems to me that it's already some kind of hysteria in the end but the end can be long, it can be a month, it can be two, it can be three, but it’s already hysteria when you know, hitler wrote about two months before the end of his life, he absolutely beat the german people , it was always like this that hitler was proud of our people, we are now we are conquering the eastern expanses, we are so poor, we are beautiful, we have beautiful philosophers, we have beautiful
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musicians, we have beethoven bach, we have ferbach, we have everything, we are the best nation in the world, what is interesting that russians speak the same way even though in they are not there, no, no, firmaha, that is, nothing is visible, everything is fine for them, everything is fine. they are lying and went on, you said, and i remembered that there are videos circulating on the internet of children in kindergarten being prepared for may 9 and laid out in the form of coffins. tell me please well, we have already seen the children in the shape of the letter z, now in the shape of coffins as a symbol of fallen soldiers. please tell me, is this kind of upbringing patriotic? is it what i think, yes? i am absolutely convinced that
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you understand. there was once a russian army attack on ukraine - this is the next grozny, that is, they didn’t come up with something, well, either it was an attack on berlin in 1945 or there was some other counteroffensive of the second world war, so there were pioneers, there were october, and they all went to some things, loved lenin, i was like that myself . by the way, so that you don’t think that i am such a saint and god . pilots in red cots or badges of young lenin and we swear to the commission party to live the rest of the ukrainians, this is as the great lenin bequeathed, as the communist party of the soviet union teaches , until now it has not been banned or who will they take to use it, they did not come up with anything
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this is not new, and in this there is an insidious, insidious victory of ukraine for them, the ukrainians of the latter are constantly coming up with something, firstly , secondly, ukrainians are smiling, you and i. even now we are discussing it with smiles yes, but in russia everything is yesterday, everything is strict they were happy there, my victory will be shown now, that's why i see some kind of inhumanity here, you understand, and i think about it every day, you know, i'm ashamed to admit it now, i think how difficult it will be for them in a year, two, three, four, five, or maybe 10, when they tell you, you know it's like a morning drunk in which you did something bad yesterday tell what you did yesterday the truth about last night it's a lot of people people don't like and people say no no don't tell me don't tell me don't tell me don't tell me
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what was at the corporate party to be at the corporate party and i can imagine 140 million people who now have a corporate company, when we talk to you, and they are convinced that this is a corporate company, that it is a great happiness that we are bombing a bunch of lower people near kyiv here and there, and they, well, it is absolutely like in the bible, even er, knock on wood and that's why i am it's just hard for me to imagine, you know, germany recovered by the beginning of the end of the 60's and the beginning of the 70's, that is, for germany, due to enormous pressure through cinema, through propaganda in a positive sense, when they told that hitler was what, the allies, this and so on. and it still took 20 years to in order to come to my senses, how long will we have to wait until the russians just pass by? i just can't imagine. let's have another question
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. in his sunday sermon, pope francis called to pray for peace in ukraine and immediately allow the evacuation of the civilian population from the bunkers of the plant has been stopped, and by the way, the evacuation may open another one, we know that a certain number of people were transported to the occupied part of donetsk region, if i am not mistaken, but pope francis talks about who the war is being fought through, he does not mention the russian federation what is this about, mr. mykola, why is pope francis now the pope of rome so, well, somewhat careful with his statements, it has always been like that, i want to tell you, i don't remember who the pope was during the second world war, this is if it's politics of the catholic leadership of the catholic church, people are still arguing, some believe that the pope saved jews during the war and simply people who could
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suffer there, others believe that he did not do enough. because if he had called to cast a spell on hitler, the situation would have been different. you need to know well what is happening in the vatican. i don't know that. but i am absolutely convinced that there is some explanation, i don't know what explanation, do you understand the congregation, every pontiff , every prelate, he thinks about the parish and he thinks and he says something when 90% are convinced that something is not not so he says when when he understands that he will be perceived positively by 90% of the population, i said that it is bad and everyone is sure
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. there are 50 against him, and discord arises. i spoke with muslim spiritual leaders, i say, why don’t you criticize these terrorist attacks, but they say well, first of all, we criticize, they really criticize here, i was wrong, but very carefully, you understand. we have just muslim people, they are normal and beautiful people there are no questions, i say i don't remember, i don't have any complaints about them either, and there are people who commit terrorist attacks, there are people who sympathize, and there is a conflict within the community and the muslim community, so we need the priests to join this, well, muslim, are we ourselves or are we others inside, we will start another war,
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this was their lack of explanation when i asked, do you mean especially i like the work? and i like it there , i don't know anyone. that's why the americans say, "we don't want to be one more conflict in the midst of muslim communities, i don't know what they are inside them, what they have there, where the discussions are going, so i'll say this to biology, it won't be right, it won't be religion, if you understand the worst e- e wars are the most cruel, they are religious wars, that is why we have to be very careful here, and so on and so on. and in general, we have to reject the ukrainians, whatever they are talking about today. only about ukraine so that we will not have gas, we will not have
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oil, we will all die but we will give ukraine opportunities, to be more precise we took away, we will not receive gas, oil yes, this is the most profound, you know, it will not be just like that, the next question why the tv presenter and what interests there were concerts of russian stars in the russian language, they continue to work, no one is going to close them until victory day, they glorified the immortal regiment, we once had such a question, but you see the audience is worried , so you did not give a complete answer, you know mine the answer and then this is what you said, now the world is unfair, it will not be like this, you know, it will never be like this, if all bad people immediately received for their wealth and all the good rewards for their goodness in ukraine are also the legislation in ukraine worked very well, the nsdc tool that banned tv channels yes took away from them there, well, not the license
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, just took away the broadcasting, because of this, there was the imposition of sanctions on the owners. so now with inter, why don’t they teach like that and is it necessary? what do you think? personally, i have two of us, it’s just such a person who works for journalists. yes, if they asked me, i would be tougher. i don't know which ones, because i still want to put a lawyer on my right and a lawyer on my left, and let them tell me what this algorithm is, how expensive it is for me to do something i don't like the fact that in jurisprudence, in the legal field, there are specific ways of bringing to justice or removing a person who leads in this way. i don't like that she leads even more. them there
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call the european court of human rights because the ukrainian courts can all support it, and there they started shouting about freedom of speech and then we should not remove someone so that in two or two years they will prove that they were not guilty, it is a difficult question, we need to find answers exactly how precisely as an experienced journalist. and i give the answer that every journalist in the west studies people in ukraine for at least one and a half years, this is not the case in the post-soviet space, but ukrainian journalists must know the legislation and we can proceed solely from the fact that there is legislation or there is no legislation, and whether it is expedient. can you comment on the impracticality at the moment when ukrainian journalists as a shop will carve out a code of ethics among themselves
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and everyone will agree that this is journalism and this is not journalism and in the west it is very simple you you have a business card and a press card, the press card is not issued by the state. and if those who signed the journalistic ethics we once created in ukraine many years ago, i was even involved there, and we internally say you are not it, it is not outside, it is not the judge, it is us we are taking away your press card, you are not a journalist, you are not complying with our laws. this is the only way, not only about journalists, about doctors, doctors must say who is a bad doctor, lawyers must say who is a bad lawyer, we have been arguing about this for
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decades, the judicial system does not work yet the judges won't say it themselves, we don't consider him a judge, he doesn't know how, he doesn't know what justice is, and we do n't have such a thing, that's why the cleaners should have their own, you leave the dirt, these are just workshop moments, when they start to rule in ukraine, everything will change the taxi drivers will immediately change and say he doesn't know kyiv he doesn't know lviv i tell him the square there is like that he says and where is it oh oh i'll look uh this gadget is there where it means gps i say if you don't know what makes you different from me you understand profession - this is what distinguishes it, obviously, if everyone can do it, this or that, that is, i say it is a profession, that means if you are a taxi driver, please, it was clean, it did not smell like cigarettes and you should
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lead me and not tell me what i am i always ask them. and you discover a gadget he has and he does it the doctor is doing the surgery. oh, what do i have to do? i agree that they put her in ukraine to smell russian propaganda because it harms our country. we hope they will pay attention if the viewers write about the presenters of inter, i have complaints against them. and you can contact the law enforcement agencies about this. we thank mykola september for the excellent answers to the questions, we have time to finish mykola vere angelika a season, well, they worked for you tonight. and then on the air of express, the materials of our colleagues from the france 24 tv channel about the work of the center for refugees from ukraine in poland, thank you for everything.
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natalya came from kharkiv to get to this refugee center in poland, she took four different trains, these were two very difficult days on the road with my mother-in-law and mother, i can't sleep properly it's been a month at home because you know , sleep for an hour or two when it's quiet but after that again, because of the bombing, it's impossible it is very dangerous to sleep and now this night we finally slept maybe six or seven hours now here i feel safe natalie took a month to convince the older women to leave her hometown
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her husband had no choice he had to stay because men of draft age are not allowed to leave the country now he is engaged in humanitarian aid , transports people and medicines in his own car. in the destroyed city, they destroyed the center of our city. it was very beautiful. the houses here were built in the 19th century. they were built during the first world war. world war ii, and now in the 21st century, they were destroyed, it's terrible. natalya was born in the soviet union, her mother is ukrainian, her father is russian, she is shocked that a war broke out between the two countries, our city was very loyal to the russians, there was never a problem with the fact that you spoke russian in language, this is a russian-speaking city, city, we
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all had some connections with russians, as soon as her mother is given a visa, both women will go to england, where they have friends who are already waiting for them, most of the people are in this refugee center, they are here for 2-3 days prepared 450 beds, all the necessary hygiene products for refugees, clothes and underwear are also free for all refugees, volunteers give bracelets upon arrival and registration. this is for their own safety, because only ukrainian refugees, workers and volunteers can stay in this center. anything, because it can carry a certain danger, let's put together where with
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america, a team of doctors also works to treat refugees, doctor azario volunteers at the center when the war started, he wanted to help, he is good he knows ukraine because he studied to be a doctor for six years, it is there that the most fortunate diseases that we face here are hypertension and muscle problems due to the stress that people have endured in the last few weeks, more than a dozen volunteers work almost around the clock to help the refugees, many of them are exhausted and emotionally crushed yulia left her home in kyiv on february 24. she works as a translator at the translation center. i know the situation from the inside and i know how difficult it is because it doesn't matter which house is destroyed. is this your home or no, you had a heart. for everything, but when you see a smile on people's lips after they have
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cried, it means i did my job well. our people are very brave, fearless and they are not afraid . if we talk about me, i would also like to go home and never there, i am thinking about returning right now. marina also hopes to return to ukraine one day. now she is going to berlin with her two daughters to the polish border. she traveled for almost 48 hours from her native zaporizhzhia because we already have a very uneasy situation in the region that is already occupied the territories of small towns are occupied there humanitarianally, everything is currently not a problem, the man has remained like this
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