of the world, which can only be, and with such support, it is absolutely necessary that ukraine is the winner of this war, but this does not mean that after our victory in ukraine, there will be peace. why, because it is a neighbor of the north will not go anywhere and it will constantly keep us in tension and we must prepare for any attacks from our aggressor from our northern neighbor for the rest of our lives. of the armed forces of ukraine was our guest join dmytro shirnytsia, ex-head of the mangush district state administration, let's talk about the mariupol direction, what is happening there now, let's remind that under the auspices of the un in mariupol, it was not

possible to start at least the evacuation of the civilian population, and we hope that today it will all continue and everything will be fine. dmytro chernytsia will be with us. please tell us. not yet. yes, let's add information. the evacuation from mariupol was the collection point at the port city shopping center, precisely for those people who were blocked at the azovstal combine previously said the head pavlo kyrylenko, the head of the donetsk regional national administration wrote to himself on facebook and twitter attention mariupol change of evacuation start time may 2 evacuation in mariupol will start at 7:00 a.m. collection point portcity mall we will ask about this a little later if the evacuation e- and some more information about the

dnipropetrovsk region dmytro chernytsia as the head of the mangova district state administration dmytro we congratulate you, we congratulate you glory to ukraine well, irina vereshchuk the day before, literally tonight stated that the humanitarian operation in mariupol is ongoing, as you know, called the steel together with the defenders of mariupol, hundreds of civilians remain blocked, the situation has taken on the signs of a real humanitarian disaster, because people are running out of water , food, medicines, multiple attempts to evacuate civilians during the last weeks have not been successful in bringing the situation under control president zelenskyi of ukraine and earlier. she said that he met sensekamon antonio at the hotel, or today at seven in the morning the evacuation of this shopping center began portcity, please tell me what i can say. i agree with this and it's really good news that yesterday we started the evacuation of our

civilian people in the big hall according to this , they did not give the military the opportunity, although in the world before such world practice they would have this is to be provided, but i hope that it will be continued today and it will almost be like that, because we understand that this is also the work of the un agencies antonio, well , if this is a symbolic date, the ninth of may, i think that putin will try to take all the same for everything and together, then report to his muscovy there, and the fact that mariupol is theirs. i think he won't succeed. well, it's good that at least he gave such an opportunity. i hope, i'm almost sure that today our people will also go uh, deep into ukraine, because we are still a few

tenths away from the evacuation, and maybe no one will see these people released in ukraine, but dmitriy, what about the military ? i know that negotiations are taking place for sure but the audience will write muscovy, their uh, military, we remember in buch and other cities near kyiv , most of this is clear if they did it to civilians. what they will do with the military is more clear. they will not release them. i hope that we can only liberate them. when we return there and i hope that they will still be alive there and at least we will be able to liberate some ukrainians dmytro, what is the situation now in mangosh and in the area, we talked about the fact that volnovakha was almost destroyed, what is the situation in terms of the

destruction of them in general with the civilian population monks in the area, please, well, you understand me there. well, i know everything, i am literally all of the local residents who remained there, they stayed in mango to show if there was a video that the kolobozhants are enough , i apologize. vacation came and some deputies of the state duma will go, they showed me a video in the great hall, i recognized several people there with whom the lizard worked, i don't know where they will go to moscow later or additionally i don't know, but the whole situation there is also very tense, isn't it? it's just like in mariupol, there is also electricity and water, there is no gas, and people are

also scared, very scared, er, scared and don't know what will happen next, er, as the locals say the occupation authorities say that they have come for a long time, we know that this is not the case, and the people there are like, uh, hostages, dmitry, you mentioned these collaborators. this is how i understand the representatives , including employees of the former administration of the district administration, probably of the regional civil administration who who are these people? i saw the head of the financial department there and saw their people. i saw several deputies of the psg of the city council of mariupol there at the meeting. for the

former administration, and they dreamed of something there, they promised people, i am sure not to lose their hope, i was just at your place in manus, i was at your premises, the administration came . with your majority leader, what are the people who worked in the state authorities of ukraine yesterday, and today they are just calmly going over to the other side during the war? what responsibility should be for these people in your opinion? they were forced to stay, but only then had the opportunity to go and didn't go. i'm sorry. they have to answer. and what kind of wood chips did they come back, then they went to the mongoose and then came back here? i

can't understand such people at all, what they were thinking about and what they don't expect anything for tomorrow and we thank you dmytro chernytsia as the head of the mongoose district state administration was our guest and is already maksym zhorin - singing commander of the azov regiment we congratulate maksym if you already hear from us greetings from mariupol today should continue which in the latest information for you, is it already in progress, it was supposed to start with this, then the time was changed a bit, uh, what now, what do you know, it was really supposed to start in the morning, but the fact is that um, just like yesterday, the russians are delaying this process, no let him be organized on time eh according to the agreements, moreover, i can tell you that

yesterday at the end of the day there are only a few of them on the territory of azovstal today, and the process is being delayed, there are, in principle, such good developments in this regard that in general this process has at least somehow started, but i would like everyone to clearly understand that, after all, we have saved several dozen people so far and there thousands of them - this is one thing, and the second thing is that in this matter, the priority must also be to rescue the wounded, of whom there are about 500 bodies of the dead, to remove them from there in order to bury them with honors, as well as the military garrisons that are there, who also needs to be taken out of there, what complicates the evacuation, well, in fact, it takes place under shelling, as it was then, according to

your forecasts, today this process will continue with the russians, in principle, it is quite difficult to predict their behavior, they are scum they can generally open direct fire on civilians who will already be in transport, but usually they slow down the process due to the fact that they simply do not pass evacuation transport points or fire at places where people are supposed to gather, i don't know them, it's like their entertainment every time everything will go well. it's good that we will be able to save as many people as possible in the coming days, including i hope that there will still be countries of the world that will be able to become guarantors in order to withdraw the garrison from there and to save the wounded and in relation to different how many people are there and what are the complications of the injuries, according to your information, there are about 500 wounded at the

moment, the degree of severity is completely different among them there are a lot of seriously wounded and you must understand that to provide them with medical assistance at this moment, it has been almost a week, it is absolutely impossible because the hospital was destroyed, completely destroyed and at the moment there is no medicine, no tools, no conditions to provide them with any kind of help, so it is extremely important not to to waste time and save them because they are just rotting in the basements, they are lying there. maksima. yesterday i watched a video of one of the women, and there were even several women who were released from, well, they were released, and they are taken to zaporizhzhia like this, before the release, the russians simply record videos of them there i don't know whether under coercion or because of some other motives, he says that there the azov fighters treat them with disdain there, they don't give them food there

, and in general the relationship between the civilian population and the military there in this basement bomb shelter are you watching them? have you watched them? is it being recorded by the company or not? are we not losing the information war for those people who now need to be released from prison? russia has shown itself to be extremely pitiful and weak on the battlefield. in terms of information, and they really work extremely powerfully in this regard, they work hard, they make up a lot of resources, they threw a huge number of some uh, katsap bloggers in mariupol, who are constantly doing things from there er video that is already broadcast er all over russia , including absolutely almost every time there were evacuations. we faced the process where the russians stopped the transport, took people out of there and

made them er tell on camera about something like someone mocked them that they were not allowed to live there or something else. and only after that they let the buses go there so that they could move on, but russians are cattle that believe in all this crap, eh. despite the fact that it is absurd and it is obvious that it is they who destroyed this place it is they they made it so that people don't have anything to eat there, they made it so that children died of hunger there, that's why i very much doubt that there are a large number of people in mariupol who really at least somehow treat the russians well, but there are definitely some number of collaborators there. unfortunately, there is a maxim about collaborators we spoke to the previous block with dmytro the chernitsa, he was once the head of the mangush rda, he said an interesting thing that it turns out that in mangosh there is already an active occupation in mariupol, that

pushylin is coming there to these meeting places there many people are coming, deputies of the mariupol city council from the national security agency, there are some heads of the financial department of the mangush district state administration of the ukrainian government, what should be the reaction of the ukrainian authorities of the special services to such facts of collaboration and the participation of ukrainian officials in quotation marks about such coincidences of the new occupation authorities, please, well, first of all, i want to remind that when i was also engaged in social and political activities, we fought for more than a year to adopt a law on the fight against collaborators, because it was obvious to everyone that these scum need to be fought before they begin to actively act, but unfortunately they exist today, they exist today, this law has been passed and all these scoundrels must be held accountable according to the law day, all

the tools are legal, therefore, absolutely not everyone should be prosecuted, absolutely everyone should be sentenced, and then it is the task of the special forces to find them and send them to serve their sentence. maxim, we are talking about everyone about azovstal, so what do you know about all of mariupol, how many people are left there, what is the general situation in the city? there are none there, well, conditionally, where the city used to be, now there are just ruins, uh, as for the civilian population, a large number still remain in the basements

, a large number of them still cannot get out, because the hostilities are still going on, no matter what is happening, so we should not stop in this direction, we should work in parallel every day on the issue of evacuation and rescue, local reports and on preparation for the military blockade of the city of mariupol . about the evacuation from mariupol, british intelligence said that russia has deployed in ukraine more than 120 battalion tactical groups, which make up 65% of its total ground potential of the russian armed forces, and this is reported in according to the daily review of the british ministry of defense at the beginning of the conflict, russia engaged more than 120 of these groups, which is 65%, it is said that this is completely or true. that more than a quarter of these units have now become incapacitated

. it is said in the summary of british intelligence on the eve of the british appeared that russia is right to establish long-term control over kherson in order to support its invasions from there at the stage of increasing the security of its counter she discovered well, from kherson oblast, from luhansk oblast, from donetsk oblast, from zaporizhzhia oblasts, the russian invaders have already taken out several hundred thousand tons of grain from these temporarily occupied territories of these oblasts. first deputy minister of agrarian policy and food taras vysotsky told about this , and he says that the russians are using the tactics of the beginning of the 20th century with the theft of grain and its removal from ukraine we have already talked about this on our broadcast a little, now i want to talk about it with professional economists in particular i am not skadovsky i see you with us, we welcome you ilya, i greet you good

day, well, we see this tactic of the 20th century. repeat like the 30s of the last century, but now, how will this looting of food from wild moments affect the economy, if we hint at what is possible there will be hunger in ukraine, this will definitely not be a significant territory of ukraine is under the direct control of the ukrainian army, and that is why there will be no famine in any territory, that is, in other words, we will all be silver, we will all be with the appropriate funds, but for the economy - this is very first of all, it is the very grain that is being exported. accordingly, we are losing . secondly, it is more . of our agriculture

why because we can get grain already next year but this year, if all the equipment is destroyed and taken away, in order to restore it, a significant capital investment is required . do we have the opportunity today to make such a capital investment, of course, is a big question. and besides, they export not only grain, but also what is left - it was necessary in order to carry out sowing, this means because there was such a hope that despite that that 20% of the sown territory is controlled by russia today, and accordingly they can still be sown and the result obtained from them is now a big question. nothing happened because when it hits the economy very hard, it is the article of export in the first place, it hits even harder

. it is still limited, it is at least five times less than we could export, and of course it is a hundred working in the world, and the probability of a food crisis, a food crisis that will lead to significant changes. that is, this and immigration from african countries, including to europe or to other countries where it is possible to keep food, asian countries, and so on. that is, it already puts the whole world of primacy for many, let's go ahead. good day natalya natalya shapoval should be with us good day yes good day i hear you very well about the ukrainian grain that was partially stolen from us by russia together with the equipment and exported to the occupied crimea temporarily occupied, along with this, the representative of the

world food program, mr. martin frick , told radio liberty that 4.5 million grains remain blocked in ukrainian ports at the moment, it is impossible to export them because the sea lanes are closed due to the war. can this grain be unblocked or can it be taken out of the country, well, by exporting it? in this way, i am asking, yes, it is really a very big problem, not only that almost 30% of the territory of ukraine is not can be used for the production of agricultural products and regions such as kherson, which have traditionally provided most of our fruits and vegetables. they are blocked, but also what we could export before remains in the ports . there are alternative ways to transport them,

of course, you know. translatable considering the fact that in some situation the country is now, but in principle through the western border of ukraine, with the help of road transport and railway transport, certain exports can take place, but this is so you know this very well, if it is not the optimal way of organizing transportation and therefore it is critical. it is important that ukrainian ports were unblocked in order to make this export about oil. this is reported by the german cdf, according to information from this tv channel, the question remains only in the transition period, i.e. the deadline and when the import of russian oil will be allowed, eh. this means that nothing stands in the way

according to a high-ranking european diplomat , the decisive factor was the fact that for all the countries i mentioned that the decision not to slow down the embargo was made by the german government, but the details of the transition period still remain unresolved, one of the proposals to allow import of oil from russia until autumn or winter, mr. ilya, which one will be chosen? what do you think the term is about ? of our authorities regarding the fact that we should file in international courts. taking into account the fact that our grain is being stolen and actually demand and the rest of the russian courts to which our grain is transported directly selling them to other countries. that is, we should raise this issue and block the impossibility of selling grain in other countries, because it is already reaching a certain point, let's say so together. when in fact other countries take part in the purchase of

stolen goods. and now about oil. only 2-3 months are enough to buy russian oil, and it is possible to fully compensate for the re-signing of contracts and the establishment of logistical connections with the supply of oil from other sources, although i emphasize that blocking oil is more important than blocking gas, because profit from oil e which russia will receive a lot today, despite even the discounts that they are currently offering so that they are not overbought, unlike gas supplied under a long-term contract and these prices are usually much lower than those that we see directly at the hubs, oil is now quite expensive. therefore, it is critically important. 2-3 months is sufficient. alternatives are appropriate. contracts

have been concluded. the increase in the price of gasoline, which they are already observing, is in fact a payment for the fact that they do not have a war. they must understand this, they generally support the polls that were conducted in the european union, they confirm that the europeans are ready to pay more for gasoline or just to stop this war that is now in europe natalya, what is the deadline for a complete withdrawal from russian oil european officials, diplomats and politicians can choose from several months to almost a year, because i have a prediction of what will happen general strategy that says that we refuse russian oil and then there will be exceptions that say that but you can buy if this and that, but you can buy if , for example, you use scro-accounts or you can

buy it is under such conditions and it is very important that the wording begins to sound. that is the main thing. yes, the fact that we give up on the terms depends a lot on how they can now agree on the release of international reserves and with countries that you should further increase the production of nats such as saudi arabia is also because in order to mix what russia sells, it is about e 5 million barrels per day , that's right. the supply of oil for gas has increased. i will also add that all countries must now work on how they will live if oil and gas are cut off, because of course when the europeans

declare that they are giving up russian oil, putin will say then you will not have gas and it will be turned off one by one, as it is currently doing in other countries, besides, gas is currently a bigger source of income for russia than oil, because the prices for gas are very high and there are no self-sanctions for it, and the purchase of russian oil accordingly, e's income for russia decreased by approximately 30%. they have already lost five to six percent of production, this is something that will be very difficult for them to do, and that's why the gas is not like that anymore, you know. let's not touch the gas, it 's not like that anymore. we need to touch the gas and we need to think like everyone, including ukraine, because ukraine also imports here, we can say that we have contracts with other countries there, but the source of origin of the majority was a significant share of ukrainian gas, it is also russia, so it

absolutely must now also be a part negotiations, ilya still wanted you. please, one more question very briefly about gas, and gas is concluded under long-term contracts, this is not a sweat contract. it is profitable, of course , work to abandon gas must be carried out, but oil is more important today, they bring much more profit than gas. well, as far as i know, somewhere around 30% is oil and 10% gas in the national russian gdp, if i don't i'm wrong, but give up on everyone, so let's take a minute, you can't ask him, i wanted to ask mr. ilya about our oil and about our ukrainian gasoline. so that people don't stand in queues for several hours and don't take only

10 liters each, i'm asking for your word, yes, the first position is to stop this swing, which is related to the fact that we will cancel the excise tax from the beginning, reduce the vat by 7%, and then we will talk about what increases it creates groundless excitement of the government, you need to think before proposing, accordingly, this way, this way, this way, in the other direction, respectively, the proposals have been decided to reduce, respectively, vat and exemption from excise duty, and further, accordingly, it must be supported until the end of the war without these swings. this is the first position, and the second position - this is price regulation. i'm sorry, you should actually let go of the prices for today, what the government is doing now is not justified, it is necessary to act with other instruments, in particular , for example, the antimonopoly committee, including the committee in in case of abuse, because setting a single price for the entire country, which is completely unjustified, the cost of logistics in the western regions and the cost of logistics in the eastern regions are completely different, so setting a single

price is unjustified, and the government trying to equalize everything accordingly leads to the fact that those regions in which logistics are much more expensive and there is no gasoline, the phone is such a wish, you have to think very briefly, please, thank you, i think that we just need the status of heroes to be issued to this company who are now trying to bring oil, gasoline and diesel to ukraine due to the structural deficit in europe regarding price regulation. i believe that there may be another scenario, both with regulation and without regulation, but it is precisely these businesses that are now overpaying huge amounts of money for logistics across the entire territory in general to prove something to ukraine and who have already lost a lot of money over the past two months on this regulation. they definitely have to be . well, in a certain way, maintenance, thank you