the issue will not be stopped, but the impact on the european and also on the world economy will be minimized , this is probably the best option for the future, reasonable sanctions on russian oil and gas with the help of extreme tariffs, which should be imposed jointly in the seven eu without exception, tomorrow 21:00 hold on , dear friends good evening, matvii ganapolskyi, you have one part of the screen, and maria klyuk is in the second part, which one, maria, i congratulate you. good evening, dear friends, yes . congratulations. guest, we will have such a thorough guest the next one is maria plus and i am very glad to see you, so i am

on my way tomorrow i will already be in the studio at our time listen, tell me well, it doesn't matter what i am here, what i am there, what is the problem, listen, dear friends this is the program people of war, i will remind you that somehow we can understand how we feel going through the war and how the war passes through us, because we are the victims, my heroes, we are the workers of the war, because we are trying, well, for example, the media, we are trying to show you information, and i wish you all day say the whole day, irina and

i , my dear editor, are looking at the different sections of the photos that we collect before the start of the program. i'll show you. it's very good that you don't know what i'm going to show you, and i'll show you minute 35 of the video, the evacuation of the people of mariupol, there will be a text, and i'll read it, dear viewers . please, look not so much at the people, but on what surrounds them, and everything around them is destroyed. so i would say, let's see, did you graduate, the children are constantly working, but our dear friends are already in touch with taras chornovil, and he is looking at all this with us

. and he is looking at all this even now he will comment on everything, that is, people are alive, but please look around, what is happening around, there is nothing going on, these people were maria and what are these people, where were they hiding and how were they, yes, without food, without water on the ground

taras chornovol, we have taras in touch what you can say about this is what we have now shown good evening maria good evening matvii well, it's hard and painful to look at it all, it's all absolutely terrible, the only thing i'll add is that i also have to work through, well, if not hundreds to dozens of similar shootings of photos of events , because i'm working on my certain informational part, i'm also sending it out, i'm trying to throw similar or sometimes much scarier shots where all the publics are rashin to see something there, i don’t really hope for any results, but we still want to do something like this, well, let’s imagine those people these people have not seen the sun for 40 or 60 days, the last days, especially after the dust announced that he was giving the order to stop

attacking and bombing azovstal, simply surround and all of these people were dropped the most powerful , the strongest bombs, these are no longer half a ton, but several tons of specially designed bombs for the destruction of bunkers, special super-powerful them or the tunnels that were there or the dungeons in which they were not destroyed quite a lot in these last days, they actually experienced a farewell to life, one of these i think it was quite accurate, because the traitor who once worked at the azovstal plant in the leadership of lanka, well, the leaders at the level of the workshop management, handed over the lift to the raschits, and under the tv camera, he demonstratively handed over the diagrams of the underground structures, where only tunnels, some are bunkers, he showed it in detail, and they they knew where in the deepest bunkers there could be a hospital because they understood that in the cleanest places they hid the wounded

civilians there and beat those people specifically in these places, the exits from these tunnels for these people for another week back were really available during this week, they were bred so that many people were pulled out of those dungeons with ropes, that is, they were actually buried alive . and imagine these people coming out of this hell, from that particular hell, they survived the entire period , first they bombard mariupol, the hell of the last days, when demonstratively hideous it cynically stated that it gave the order to stop bombing, that it was not destroying civilians there, they had experienced the worst hell, now they are leaving, they have no certainty, they told them the people of azov that they will be taken to ukraine, and there is no certainty that they will not be destroyed, that they will not be taken somewhere to russia, somewhere to sakhalin, or somewhere else that will not separate them from their children. imagine the horror of these people, and i also watched another video. there are composite shots of

this the video was already shot by the rashists. well, they submitted it on behalf of the dpr, where is the idyll, where is the beauty, where is the friendly dpr and the militias, where, in parallel, are his oonivtsi, there it is all mixed up with combined shots in which these people are also included. healthy women beautiful good fresh with washed heads there was no water for drinking, but here, well-kept dogs, you know, animals are under stress, which is worse than people and dogs, which, well , imagine them like this, you have to hold them in your hands, here she is now a shot, somewhere with her chin, the woman wrapped her dog in a corner so that he did not hear the explosions. he sows without sows and here two dogs are twirling their tails hmm i don't know well, i would like to say the phrase you will be in trouble for the tv channel if i evaluate these two with permission to say women are being filmed who are

telling stories, well, there are these azov nationalists they didn't let us out. we wanted to, but there were even buses. a friend tells us that they came to our house . then they came to our house. then they scolded us. they threatened us. we have russian flags, er, flags hanging in the apartments. this is a whole show and different people and fake ducks and here are those who are saved and among them this beautiful idyll will be created, you know. it all looks absolutely terrible, this is me finishing it. this is just a sentence for this putin savage, absolutely proud , who does such things, this is terrible, but the last moment is very painful for me in fact, people who are civilians who can be pulled out will probably still be returned, probably most of them will be able to. well, some of them will be able to come to ukraine, and certain others will be able to, after all, passing through that filtration camp eh behind the wide one on the other side to the east. what else did they go through? when they saw that they were being taken not to the west, they did not run to zaporizhzhia, but to the east, and

after that they were taken like that but there are about 500 wounded soldiers in a serious condition, no one takes them out, he did not risk taking them out, it did not succeed , they are not rescued, our defenders are there, there are there are policemen there, but the border guard is one woman among them, and unfortunately for them, there is no chance to save them yet, and it is a terrible pain . here is the question of how people lived there, partly you said about it, but now we will see the video until the end of the day. i will be there reading the text, people, let's see when we are not satisfied with something, children

, wives, husbands, life, war, let's look at this and say that there are people who directly now it is worse than us and we have to do everything depends on us so that, my god, this tragedy will end someday and help help the country because what you will show now, well, how can you live like this? i live alone, a helper is good, it 's time, and someone is shooting. i don't know, i don't have legs, it's not, i don't walk, i need help, that's it. and here

i am, abandoned, sitting, sleeping in twos . watch now, tell me who is saying thank you now the necessity was to bomb the peaceful population with such bombs and overlords. we must not be conscience, not

ourselves, not feeling, measures, at all, they did nothing at all , literally, a quarter of homeless people for old age is scary . until now, i can’t menya, i.e. tears , oh,

ukraine , no glory. they will throw down our mountains, as light as the sun, i will take care of washing on my side.

they did, they deprived people of the opportunity to exist normally, well, how much matviyovych, i’m sure you too have seen this video, how in the dungeon on azov, how do people survive there, only there are the conditions, well, it’s also impossible to watch calmly, tell me, you know, those shots are scary. but these are not the scariest shots, the scariest was then only these shots were taken at a time when fascists demonstratively stopped bombing in the presence of the un. the evacuation will continue. i understand that it continued at night. they continued shelling azovstal from ships. they continued shelling. they continued to destroy those places, including the exits through which people can be taken out of those

dungeons , that is, they give. there was no time when people who went out to drive to find shelters or some leftover food and were shot in the streets and their bodies were lying in one field in a few bottles of water in another some kind of bag with some and potatoes were scattered near her, other things, i have a shot of it where people under the house came out of the shelter to heat up some food, because they would have simply suffocated there, lit a fire, put some kind of pot, covered them with fire, specially aimed with a mortar, and four people, mostly women, leave, torn to pieces under driving by my house, these are scary shots. i recently found on the internet a screenshot of an article from the soviet media for the 44th year, in my opinion, about the atrocities of the nazis in mariupol, yes, there were actually atrocities there, but they are no comparison do not go with what is being done now to clean up

mariupol in two full two years of occupation by the nazis mariupol died during hostilities, including the military, and the communists were there and others shot them all together 10,000 people died in two years for non- in fact, for two months of rashit bombing and attacks on mariupol, at least according to the mayor's adviser andruschenko, at least 20,000 people died, and others were horrified by the ruins of mariupol , but now we see buildings from the 19th century with at the beginning of the 20th century, which survived the second world war , were completely destroyed by rashi murderers, and those shots are not only from mariupol, but today there were shots of the evacuation of people from these villages north of kharkiv , our fighters are pushing them out of the roshets and evacuating people from there

because they have nowhere to live there well, first of all, it is dangerous there, because it is actually the front line, but the women tell the same thing that the mariupol people now, we had a house, we had all kinds of farms there, everything was erased, the land was merged, they beat and drove through the residential buildings of a more terrifying wild animal a more criminal regime than russian racism in the world. it seems to me that even nazism did not exist, it did not indulge in such wild destruction of civilians . to go, dear, and those who will come after you. thank you very much, taras, for being with us, and the wonderful political scientist yuriy ruban should join us. he is not there yet, then maybe i want to, you understand, dear

friends, so m- m marichka, you understand me like this here is this woman about whom you speak like that well, who was shown cooking some kind of soup on the fire, you can imagine a special one, and she is standing near that house, where is her house possible, and now there is nothing, and that woman friend, who do you remember, they showed a little building there, maybe this apartment may not have been hers, but the person had hopes. they didn't live long, it wasn't new york. they lived there for themselves, they had children of some kind , they went to work, there were plans to go to turkey, you know very well, they said that if you have any problems in the family in the family

i don't know what it is, there's not enough money for something, that's all. you understand how trivial it all is. and it doesn't matter at all when you see what's happening. well, in particular, now in mariupol, when there really is a woman on the street who has to cook something to feed i don't know the children, the family, the people don't have drinking water, and there are shots of people trying to catch something in this river, i'm not sure that it 's possible to catch anything there at all, because it's a fish, you know, it's possible well, for those people, of course, it's at least something that we know that there is no food in mariupol no one brings them there, maybe some kind of humanitarian russia is trying to set up for its propaganda snakes to show some picture well, maybe some individual representatives who know what to say on camera and give that food and what is

happening to the ukrainians it is of course very terrifying, but you know i want you to say what is happening to the ukrainians. it is a strange story and we are with you now. well, they left because putin said, and they don't really understand this, where are the fascists and the panthers, where is that stepan, who must be found? and now, ukrainians who live in the villages, now you will see a small story about heroism, you and i are used to what a penny is, you know it there you shot something like that at a tank, and so on, it turns out that the heroes may be ordinary villagers who may decide to take a desperate step, and now you and i will see what

they did. i don't know if i can. will i be able to read the text because i have a computer in front of me he cuts na i'm sorry, the text, but then you read the text, well, if i can't, let's go. you read the text and what these people have come up with. you know how to hurt yourself so that the enemy doesn't pass. come on. and you read. the inhabitants of demydov flooded their village. when the war started, they opened the nearest dam for this so that they really did not exist, it was worth it. at the beginning of the war, the ukrainians destroyed bridges and roads to slow down the advance of russian tanks. the russian

army soon occupied demidov, but it was difficult to destroy it. this is due to the fact that when they walked our streets, they asked local residents, for example, where do you live, we talked on the outer street, then of course they said we don't go there because there is water after the russian troops left, the village remains flooded rubber boats are the fastest way передвижения наступление на киев i don't know what to call these people or these creatures who came here, after all, it slowed

them down here, they ended up here, what's in the bag now, meat residents are asking to liquidate consequences floods, we are in contact with the wonderful yuriy ruban. it turns out that everyone can be a hero in such a war. we say that this war is really a people's war, it is not just a war of two armies . they came to destroy us, actually, they came to destroy us without a word for nazification , that's what they say, to destroy all of us who meet their criteria, one people, a person who speaks ukrainian, a person who does not share

their vision of the history of culture, this is a nazi which must be destroyed by us, this is a clear understanding of this, this is an understanding of this. it seems to me that it is also characteristic of these people who lived in the demi-yakad, who made this decision because it is clear that it is either us them or they us here already a little different pattern, another pattern of losses, another thing, there is a lot of trouble, another pattern of material losses, because this is about the survival of each of us individually and all of us together as a people, and people ask me, my friends. what do you have there, what do you have what happened to you during the day? i watched the news today. well, nothing seems to be happening it happened, but it is from the war. i have ideas for you . what is a traditional question? i ask all the guests. how do you and i pass this for the first time? do you understand when

i was caught in a war? and putin made us a new war. please. go your way. how do you live ? today how do you feel about this today er-er interesting question of course er-er well i will not eh, today, eh, i'm sorry to interrupt you, my friend, eh, maria please look while ruban is talking about odesa and just read it, let's add that they terrorized odesa and there. apparently its victims and so on, i just can't apply it in my current situation. here

is updated information in the press literally an hour ago - the center of the defense forces of the south was informed that a rocket hit a building in which five people were located, a 15-year-old boy died and a minor girl was taken to the hospital, that is, unfortunately, there are dead and injured. that is, it is not a military object. as i understand it, it is not a military object, i read earlier that it seemed to be a church or some kind of religious building, but here is the secretary of the national security and defense council oleksiy danilov, and he said that as a result of an attack in the center of the moscow patriarchate, the roof of the center of the moscow patriarchate collapsed. yes, please. we are talking about odessa in the same way. we can talk about those people who live in smaller cities, maybe they are not like that. but in the forces somewhere there are terrible battles in the donbas and so

on. that is, it is still a difficult, difficult war. so what are you saying? europe has not seen such wars, well actually after 1945, she did not see those wars, even in the balkans, they were of a different nature, of a different nature , we will talk intensively here, we are returning us, russia threw into this archaic, such a terrible war, well, literally, a biblical one, what is written in the holy scriptures when it comes to what of the two peoples, only one will remain, and this is scary. well, it requires an understanding, so to speak, which i think we will only now reach. here are the first people who came who met them in the first days of the war in demydov, and here are the people who now that we saw what happened in bucha, now when we see what is happening in mariupol, it is clear that

this is a war that requires us to take a different approach. that is, it is no longer a war there of material losses of destroyed bridges, the loss of the destroyed masses, the loss of the destroyed roads there, the loss of the well-being that, well , relative to what we still lived in peace, it's a pity that well actually that life, but it will no longer be the same and those people who are this is also important. i think it is important to say i apologize . of kyiv who survived those days when there were battles on obolon somewhere in the beresteyskyi metro and some of those people who returned have different life experiences, but for some reason there is a feeling that many people who returned would like to

return. of course, at 23 well, unfortunately , this will no longer happen, that is, of course, some coffee shops are opening there. well, for sure, there are, thank god, it's already a little different in the supermarket when i come, it's not the same as it was at the beginning of march, but still no longer that life will be and besides, we will have to accept this bitter fact and talk about the fact that, well, we will still have to make a lot of effort to overcome this invasion, ah, you said that effort is needed. now we will see how people make efforts, this is a very good phrase now, maria i will read it again, because i won’t see it, there will be a translation, so what is it like ? this is the speech of the chancellor of germany. she reigned in the

rally. this is exactly the rally. when people stand, do they whistle, do they support, or do they wave and so on? politics is not putin, he is not afraid. so you and i all know and there is no need to repeat how something changed at the beginning and directly online. that is, you can directly see at first no no no no no it means the northern stream here and there then no weapons and so on and so on, look at this transformation of a person, we are with you we say people are free. as you said, mr. rukon, we cannot go back to the time of the war and olaf shol is standing on the podium and masha will now read what he says, how he justifies his current position, let's see