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this state once was what is called reputation, now russia does such things every day that simply exclude any adequacy, yesterday, for example, the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation openly and unashamedly said that the most anti-semites are allegedly among the jews themselves and that hitler allegedly had a jewish cow, how could such a thing be said on the eve of the anniversary of the victory over nazism, these words mean that the highest diplomat of russia blames the jewish people for the crimes of the nazis, of course there are no words today about these words, great scandal in israel but nevertheless, no one hears objections or excuses from moscow, and there they are silent, which means they agree with what their minister of foreign affairs said after the russian missile attack on

babyny yar in kyiv, after the damaged menorah that was hit by fire at the site of mass shootings in the drohobytskyi yar near kharkiv after the death from russian shelling of people, of course, who survived the nazi occupation and nazi concentration camps, such a desemite case of their minister means that the leadership of russia have forgotten all the lessons of the second world war, and maybe they were never taught this lesson, and therefore the question is whether the ambassador of israel will remain in moscow, knowing their new position, or whether relations with russia will remain as usual, because these are not accidental words of the russian minister of foreign affairs, a great expert and it is not by chance that the russian occupiers of hitlerism are creating so-called filtration camps on ukrainian soil, through which thousands of our ukrainian citizens are sent, where they kill, torture , rape our people, it is not by chance that the occupiers

they capture civilians, take them as hostages or deport them as free labor, it is no accident that they do not wage a so-called total war to destroy all living things, after which only burned ruins of entire cities remain, to do all this, you need to completely reject the morality and achievements of the winners of nazism, but if such people in the russian leadership, this does not mean that they can judge by themselves about others in europe or the world if they send their citizens to die by the tens of thousands on foreign land and not even they take the bodies of those killed from the streets, from the roads, from the fields, this does not mean that all others are similar to them. that among them there are people who themselves come from ukraine, but also support the extermination of ukrainians from ukraine, then this does not mean that all others have abandoned

normal human morality today russian troops launched another missile attack on odesa , destroyed a dormitory, shot down a 14-year-old boy, injured a 17-year-old girl, she has a shrapnel wound, what is this for, what is the purpose of what threatened the russian state. these children and the dormitory and so it is they are fighting. that's all of lysychansk in the luhansk region. russian shelling burned down the gymnasium . by the way, it was more than 100 years old. it was built by the belgians for this city. it withstood two world wars, but as we can see, this gymnasium turned out to be a terrible threat to modern russia. 220 ukrainian children were killed by the russian army . in the time since february 24 and this we still do not know about all of them because we do not have access to the temporarily occupied regions of our country 1,570 educational institutions were destroyed or

damaged as a result of shelling, this is a little more than in two months, that is why the entire free world united so that no one would justify nazism, so that no one would kill children, so that no one would destroy peaceful cities, as russia does today in kyiv, i met with the minister of foreign affairs of denmark, we discussed the whole complex of issues of our bilateral relations, primarily defense financial and political interactions, i see progress in the implementation of those agreements that were reached at the negotiations with the prime minister of denmark, thanks, i received good signals, they also discussed plans for the reconstruction of ukraine after the war and support for our movement to i am grateful to the european union for the fact that it is resuming the work of its embassy in our capital. this is the 29th foreign representation that has returned to ukraine. we are

working on new sanctions against russia in the near future. we believe in this so that the terrorist state is not given a billion euros daily for fuel, but also now it is worth preparing for the next sanctions steps, in any case we will have to block all export import operations from russia because all this is in moscow and they earn all this and even there i do not understand that international law and peace in europe must be respected . -e from berdyansk tokmak vasilivka, the armed forces of ukraine are heroically restraining the attempts of the occupiers to advance in the direction of kharkiv

, donbas, the south of the country, everywhere the situation remains extremely difficult, but we are grateful to each and every one of our to the defenders of e-e who maintain the defense of the state, he just signed a great decree on awarding our military 438 servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine, awarding the title of hero of ukraine with state awards, he worked for tantum, so dear to dmytro ruslanovych for his personal courage and extraordinary effectiveness in the battles against the occupiers in the donetsk region. eternal glory to everyone who stood up for the defense of our country, eternal memory to all those who died for ukraine glory to ukraine glory to the heroes what a good speech indeed zelenskyy has a lot important moments and events were mentioned by the president of ukraine. well, let's start discussing them, let's add for this our first guest, volodymyr horbach

, political analyst of the institute of euro-atlantic cooperation, mr. volodymyr, good evening, how do you hear us? the roots of hitler and all these accusations and what kind of reflection the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi was reflecting on, and obviously lavrov didn't just say that because well, no matter how we approach him they treated him, he is a diplomat, a politician with experience, he understands as soon as he says what he is saying, why was it said, as you think, maybe he is just an idiot, well , i have such a version, one of the versions stood up so that, well, in fact, the russians had no doubts for so that

really ukrainians are nazis by force well, you see hitler, he has jewish roots and is inferior to the jews as well and there is an interesting thing that is just that this story about the fact that i can hear hitler was there some jewish that you and so on there are a bunch of different conspiracy theories of all kinds of history, which are the same the russians, i’m sorry, they launch all kinds of bot farms, and whether it’s me or not, by the way, it’s a consequence of the fact that and even this top decision-maker reads the same propaganda narratives herself and then believes them herself. i don’t know if it’s a propaganda generator or something that's a conspiracy theory, she said it correctly, i think it's more like that and really well, here is your colleague marina yes maria maria i apologize for praising lavrov that he is such an experienced diplomat and he shouldn't have said that

well the fact is that russian diplomacy is already a long, long time ago, she went beyond all shores eh well, it seems to me that he doesn't say something just like that and there is some hidden secret meaning eh, well, usually, they want to convey something. well, it seems so to me. maybe i'm wrong . it is possible and just like that sometimes big politicians do it e there are world leaders, global national and so on sometimes it is even diplomats er well in such a mutual point they allow themselves the same lavrov, remember in moscow the press conference of the saudi prince and commenting on the prince's speech, speaking in principle, matyuka directly into the microphone and it's all on the air, the same thing and lavrov, a great diplomat of the voters to think what he

meant, there is no point in the blunders, he meant that's what the whole point is . i think andrii is right in this situation in this matter. he just wanted to say that he justifies the russian narrative of the nazis in ukraine, since he has no more arguments than others , so he pulls out of his subconscious, which somewhere , maybe he heard some version somewhere. about uh, some incredible euro and jews in relation to hitler. and these are his main arguments. he pours them out so much and presents his uh, an interview with an italian newspaper. this is lavrov's interview with an italian newspaper. they explain to italians about nazism in ukraine. it is imaginary. this ukrainian nazism exists only in the imagination of russian propaganda, but

no one else has it anywhere, not in germany, italy, and even more so in ukraine, well, it's simply impossible to publicize it, and that's why today's publication of this interview has caused a huge scandal the world international and, first of all, it usually bought the state of israel, which resembles, before the war, it still sold to the russian federation, for example, drones, for example, and some other types of acquisition, and in ukraine, until this moment, it has not yet dared to install any security health. i hope that such revelations and foreign affairs of the russian federation will still encourage our friends in the state of israel to review their export e-e policy in the military-industrial sector. i think that this will be one of the unexpected consequences. and if the consequences of such the kind of nonsense that he spoke today will be because

they reacted, they challenged russia, it seems that this whole story will not end with this, they provoked, they allegedly reacted, that is, that is all . lavrov's statement. i think that this will be the last push for those decisions that the state of israel will make in this matter, or at least russia. they will definitely not supply more weapons and any technologies. and i want to remind you that israel, the state of israel, was one of participants of a meeting such as a consultative group in rammstein er, and well, in addition to nato countries, there were representatives of other er partners and the united states. israel is a er strategic ally of the united states will receive huge

defense and progressive assistance from the us budget, the largest this is all other countries and i think that this is the replica of lavrop. it should at least mobilize public opinion in israel, israeli democracy in parliamentary democracy and the hopes of politicians for their political decisions are very affects public opinion, and i think that this incident today is exactly what it is. it should break the balance that still somehow existed in israeli society and tilt the shawl in favor of ukraine as a victim of russia and aid and all possible by the means of mr. volodymyr, by the way, about all the balance sheets, what does the balance of power look like now, how far is brics, for example , effective in trying to avoid

the consequences of sanctions, for example, how is it changing the position of india, china, in particular, to what extent russia remains alone now in the confrontation against the fact that ukraine actually supported only protection, so frankly well, by and large , the core of ukraine's support is the transport unity, the united states is the british commonwealth - this is the european union , if that’s the case, let’s list it, but where does the effective help come from? where does it come from, if you look at the results of the voting in the un assembly for various resolutions? it is wider, of course, but such countries are like you. how did you mention china? they give to india very often. hm. are brazil often supported? this does not apply to brazil. by the way, i’m here, i’m here, china is from india, and brics is just an abbreviation. brazil

, russia, india, china, it's even an organization, it's just a platform for meetings. well, i don't know the format. yes, it's more of a pr nature. it hasn't been meeting for a long time, and india has a completely separate position. brazil's current personnel is something else. it's generally a strategic ally, a main ally . uh the united states has been under attack since the time of trump , but china is the only one here that is very important. china's position in china passively actually plays along with the russian federation . that they are considering russian activities, what is the motive of the anti-americans, after all, this is not a struggle with ukraine, you are the whole struggle of the united states in the chinese, you have the chinese leadership p

vladimir india p vladimir why allow a little more of such a cultural question well just a topic. it's always important to me. it's not exactly your profile, but i read it on your own facebook profile. on april 30, you wrote about the fact of the demolition of the dismantling of the monument to the russian poet pushkin in chernihiv in the city of the liberated ukrainian well, how did the release of the unblocked one, which suffered greatly, and so on, and so on, and in fact, you remind us that the opening of the monument was held back in 1900, that is, it stood in chernihiv, placing it as a tsar during tsarist russia, and it stood 121 for almost a year, yes, yes, and you have a very interesting thing there. what, uh, is there a quote as written by a local newspaper. about this event, a modest celebration was held in chernihiv for the opening of a monument to pushkin, and upon approaching pushkin, this is what the journalist who writes it writes. the reporter

overheard the conversation. who is he, ask me, man, this is a game of pushkin, the author of the calendar, i answer some fights , a young boy, and i, i, i , this is very cool, but i thought about it, you know what , 121 years ago in chernihiv, they spoke in ukrainian, and now, unfortunately, chernihiv terribly encountered city, we know this, and i think that this war will certainly bring corrections to this situation, too, and no one would know who pushkin is, but today it is more likely that someone there might not know someone from ukrainian figures and so on, that is, uh should it be, they always say that this is now a sentiment, it's all bad stories there with the demolition of monuments and so on, should there be some kind of justice here? well, first of all, i'll note that chernihiv is practically my hometown for me, i'm there studied at the university and taught, lived well

part of my life i have a really big feeling about this, i'm just lost, this one, i just remembered that there was some such story in my memory, i clarified it, i found this quote, it was a local local historian who wrote about it a long, long time ago, not now, today , and not at the moment a note will be made, but chernihiv was subjected to serious russification in soviet times. now there is a much different situation. well , the situation is different. e chernihiv with the russian occupier can be seen here well it did not affect it in any way, and russification is the upper layer, it has come down, it is not there, and as for the monuments, i will say so. i believe that there is a monument to pushkin , bulgakov, and even lenin to them. now, in this time of war, there are many it will be safer to be in the special fear of

ukrainian museums between standing on the streets of the square where they are in principle exposed to a huge risk from the point of view of their integrity as a work of art there images are now all the right decision so they should be hidden at least so that they do not annoy those people who lost their lives and health in the battles with the russians, of course, thank you, thank you, mr. volodymyr yes. we wish you a quiet peaceful night. and volodymyr horbach, a political analyst at the institute of euro-atlantic cooperation, was in touch with us . well, we are ready to move on. serhii grabskyi, a military expert, a reserve colonel, a participant in the peacekeeping missions in cancer and kosovo, mr. serhii. good evening, let's start right away with the morning's event. we woke up today, we don't know how you are. let's say that the message that

ours flew in on a change, i don't know who, and it caused certain let's say, a commotion on the island of change with the local garrison there, and immediately after that, i understand that two bairakters flew absolutely unhindered into the district water area and also transmitted hello to the two raptor e-class boats in russia with a russian ship to visit them . how is he there? well, how are we actually? what happened because i just see that there is somewhere under 200 km from the coastline, which means that you have to have something how to get it, or are these the same american supplies that are being written about a lot? well, maybe not, maybe it’s too early to talk about it, instead, the most likely one we can

only make assumptions. such an approach at a low altitude with a sudden strike and leaving the area affected so that the enemy could not even find his way around what happened. well, plus, you know, it is possible that the enemy is in captivity their own illusions, after all, there was already a one-time message that the entire ukrainian aviation had been destroyed a thousand times, maybe they didn't just believe their eyes. when our pilots appeared in the zone of their action, and then yes, let's say yes, at the maximum range, the bayraktars worked by entering on the target and destroyed two raptors because you know, the enemy probably thought that the projectile does not fall through one funnel, but then planes and bayraktars appeared, and the strike was struck, it looks like jewelry, a very well-planned operation with us you probably know that they did not

move specifically for that purpose in order to strike such blows, the main thing for us is the result, and as she was preparing, they will write books about it later, mr. sergey, i would like to hear about the information that has been circulating on social networks for several days that the chief of the general staff of russia valery mr. rasimov visited the front line in the east of ukraine, was in the kharkiv region, he was there, the only thing that, unfortunately, he managed to go before the ukrainian military attacked these positions, he understood that if he came and why he went to in such a case, it is in a hurry, so, well, i clearly came to understand why the military operation is not going on, but, well, why did he have to come personally, i have a leave, and you are a participant in hostilities, so that you can have such an increase for your pension, maybe, maybe, i think that he already has such an increase a little well, you

know here, it’s positive that he came. this shows the highest degree of nervousness, as they say in lviv, of the military and political leadership , because you know. well, i also spent more than one month in orak, and well, i only saw general matis once. who arrived at the right time, we talked with him and that's all. and to come to a combat zone where such desperate battles are actually written on the front line well, this is already something strange from the point of view of military leadership and management, because there is no need for this in you and there are relevant military structures that you control. well, the fact that he went and the result remained zero, i consider this a big positive, it means that the ukrainian army is doing everything right and the tactics that we are supporting now , that is, exhausting the enemy by enticing or er

forcing to enter the so-called so-called close battles , when the enemy is involved in battles for individual settlements , he cannot pass our flank and cut-off defenses and enter the operational space , and so they have already passed two weeks in the north and a week in the south, well, this is a big success and the fact that he left, he must have realized that the further he will be there, the more he will gain and the less authority he will have there. well, it is possible, it is possible to consider it that way, but it does not change the essence, in this case, at this level, the speed of departure from these positions has absolutely no effect on the results, we see the results are positive for us. today, we learned that about 70 m-77

is actually the newest similar weapon that the united states has since 90. that is, it is already three-four -fifths of what they promised us already somewhere in ukraine together with trained ukrainian gunners as together with them i am i understand that there will still be somewhere on the front, but is it a lot or is it enough? what what, will they change some kind of balance ? you know, i will reveal to you a terrible secret of weapons . which are er at our disposal and 4 divisions is this a great force and i think that we will soon not tomorrow not the day after tomorrow maybe even on may 9 maybe after may 9 but we will already see those divisions in action because you know no we don't need the great mind to place one of these howitzers and use them, and the essence of using these galbits

is precisely in the complex, if you carefully read what was added to those howitzers, that is, complexes, a complex of battery reconnaissance, drones, scouts that allow you to adjust the fire and deliver accurate jewelry strikes well, as the artillerymen say beyond the horizon, that is, accuracy, it will allow us to more effectively influence the communications of the enemy's battle formations, in particular, their command posts, and i think that strikes on such a command post as were literally after general gerasimov left this zone, they will be repeated, repeated even more often

. threatening, well, russia , well, this is how it turned out historically. well, they have more people, the population says that 17 million people can mobilize into the army, how much of a threat is this to us? and i also read that russia and the tactics of declaring war after the second world war has not changed, they are releasing a wave of soldiers, our artillery is coming at them, or something else. 17 million with sticks eh and picket fences is a serious force but if you ask more seriously how much it will change eh or it will change everything if in fact mobi