with us, that is, our side makes the decision. and the diplomatic political channels, when there is something missing, they also join. well, every day we are in touch with them, that is, there is no problem here at all, uh, the president of turkey also knows every day, every day, there are several hours, they are in touch with us, this is very, very correct, i know that this is happening. it was simply a public appeal to the commander himself, that's why i said about it, and it was watched by almost a million turkish citizens. i think that all the politicians of the president rodogan are exactly courses from the very beginning and how, once again, be careful how you grow, evaluate the chances that his authorities will somehow manage to influence putin and the processes

. i said that we have been doing it for 69 days now, and they and we know what the situation is at all times, every hour, minute, and with the guys, and we are on our communications, and we will then pass it on to turkish and other channels that now they are helping us uh we know what the condition is we know how many people uh we are people were categorized, and now the ministry of integration is engaged in their extraction together with the office, so in this regard, everything is going according to plan , unfortunately, one person makes the decision, it is very difficult, but we are going gradually step by step and no one is going to leave there, but

unfortunately, everything is very difficult because this person makes the decision, this is completely understood. well, first of all, they take people to the russian federation, yes, and also, this is also probably part of some negotiations, maybe i’m missing out, and besides, some yuliya paevskii taira, yes, she is a civilian who was captured and whom they do not want, even they do not include russians in the list of captured troops, that is, you are already filming with her propagandist films there uh there uh, well, creepy, well, i assume that there is also coding and everything that has a place. unfortunately, what can be the fate of our uh, uh, prisoners of uh, us in the east, and they are also taken to the crimea from the

kherson region in the west, in our country in the south in the east and south. unfortunately, in 69 days, about 300,000 people have already been evacuated from the six-grass districts of the regions of 57 or 60 points. this is a very complicated procedure, it is people who were either blocked or were already able to leave, that is, work is going on every day in each of the towns, in each of the categories, you can be children, women, military women, wounded men, kidnapped , and there are those who are now in captivity . that is, i cannot explain it openly, but

integration measures they e have a mandate and an office they can i can’t say how many people and how they were exchanged, but there are, in general, i say that there are about 300,000 people who are walking these categories of people that have just been mentioned, and we are trying to evacuate them or exchange or rostembi extract. how are you doing now in general with the negotiation process, because well, this is how i observe it, from the outside, not from the inside, that it , uh, has slowed down a lot. there are statements from the russians, which are more manipulative to influence public opinion in the west, and what can be

said about the current state of the negotiations, yes, first of all, this is a very difficult position. that is, there are many goals, well, in constant contact on various issues , there are military issues, there are humanitarian issues the question is political, diplomatic, and now, this profession is more involved in the humanitarian part, where there is evacuation, where there is extraction, it gives some kind of exchanges, but unfortunately, there is no such progress in terms of the fact that we are very careful about these negotiations, but we in contact, that is, if there are any physical meetings, then you see it, you hear it, and before that

, they work in groups and with them on vkontakte, in this regard, what does the russian leadership do, and it manipulates, it goes out and says to the whole world that the russian federation has transferred some documents to the ukrainian side, the ukrainian side is either considering them or inhibiting them, in fact, it’s just a lie, ah. in general, they say in english where train questory, that is, they work, as they said, on the western audience to show that russia ukraine is trying to slow down the mobilization, i wanted to ask in crimea because today we discussed information about what is possible on may 9. putin

can officially declare war on ukraine . this sacred date for them, using its propaganda value. on this day, they want to announce either some military achievement in ukraine, or an increase in the escalation of hostilities, or both, probably, the purpose of this is to mobilize the general someone in russia in order to gather forces for the so-called second or third wave in relation to crimea , is this mobilization already underway, how is it happening, if i am not mistaken, somewhere in may they already banned entry to from may to april to not a single month. and they banned ukrainians who can join the russian armed forces from going abroad

, that is, 18 years there, 55 or 50, i don't remember, but it happened three weeks after that how uh they started uh war with us uh they're waging this one the selection has already been two months and now they have difficulties in the crimea, we see that they have broken equipment and not many people are not joining, that's why they want to force them and this mobilization, they want to announce it, but mobilization it is already de facto being done and we can see it because they are doing it both in termo and in kherson, that is, where they do not have enough people or equipment , but unfortunately, now they are saying that the ninth of

may he will declare war and, er, full mobilization. well, everything can be here, as you say everything to one head, that is, we cannot just skip and in any case be ready for everything, i also want to ask about yesterday's statement by president volodymyr zelenskyi, which well, i will not quote verbatim, he said in an interview to one interview, on the one hand, turkey acts as a mediator, supports ukraine with important steps , and on the other hand, we see, for example, at the same time , the preparation of tourist routes specifically for russian tourism. zelenskyi called these actions unfair and called on the turkish authorities republics to choose between russian tourists and the truth, if they want to have friendly relations with ukraine, well, that’s true, it looked strange when there were some private ones or some created special ones for russian tourists, i just can’t imagine. where the

ukrainians will not see them, there are others because the whole world is simply he, he, the russians, now i think that the turkish people are the same way. when we are in turkey, communication with different circles, i want to explain in our turn, first of all, the leadership turkey on the side of ukraine helped us politically and diplomatically and in other ways, but uh, there are sentiments in the turkish uh, uh, uh, western partners and sometimes these russia, as they say, they are friendly, they are in turkey, how else, that is, between ukraine and ukraine , this is the western eastern war and some cements exist, but unfortunately in companies that are now

focused on the cup, they themselves create these private companies, uh, russian uh, as partners and say let's get behind that. i talked to those colleagues who were even before the creation, we said that we will appreciate you, they understood why it was you, uh, what a misunderstanding. he explained such our centimeter, our attitude towards it, and they later. well, they will explain that we are doing it as a new party - this is a free company, there is no element of the fact that the government creates it, it is private companies were there and we talked with the ministry of tourism, i talked with those businessmen, they now understand this position, they have already started to

reengineer this approach and will consider their plans, mr. roste. we thank you for participating in our this is valera on the air. i think you should explain it correctly, because this year there are definitely more problems with the russians than there are benefits, even for turkish business. eteri i congratulate you good evening all the time here we are talking about well we started with the fate of the defenders of azov azov and civilians i'm sure i heard the address to the president of turkey by the non-organization which rtr tv channel dubbed in turkish in the language and there, more than millions of turkish citizens have already watched it, and he is confident that the surrounded body and he

himself well, it’s just this appeal to such well, it’s very powerful and he calls for it. commander azov from mariupol calls on the turkish president to become a leader in saving the lives of civilians and soldiers in mariupol how in your opinion, does this proposal still have a chance to be implemented? it is difficult to say, because at the last meeting with the minister of defense of turkey , it was precisely this direction that was discussed and the very great desire of turkey, the turks, and the turkish side in this process to achieve some results, but we know that it completely depends on putin and he is constantly changing some accents, for example, lavrov's recent interviews. he says that no, they

demanded that we hand over our weapons and stand on viburnum. then they gave up, that is, well, that’s it, but the work is going in this direction and i think that something in some uh volume is uh will be done, another thing uh, you need a brush for yourself to understand that now the whole world is on our side, but uh, this a terrorist does what you want to do and you have to be ready for that cars, another question that we also asked other guests, but your opinion is very interesting about the crimean bridge there, the terrorist is already scaring the

local occupiers and collaborators with bitterness. from some point of view. it's just me, how do you see it? is it worth or not to do something with the crimean bridge? it 's probably quite realistic, well, after the sinking of the cruiser moscow, i think that the more the rearmament of our armed forces. it will definitely be real, but hmm is it worth it shouldn't it be done, firstly, secondly, in which case it's just hmm, it will have to be done , they are definitely waiting for some of these symbolic things , yes, that is, this cruiser moscow or there berdyansky, when we sunk another ship there i'm more of a pragmatist. yes, i'm more of a pragmatist in these matters . now i've focused my attention and my

vision on what we can actually do today, tomorrow is probably closer, and the times are the first because, well, bridges, but now how many troops are on territory of crimea that they continue go you are creating because of this pharisaics who for some reason we bombed there more than once now we have passed and they they are 90%, eh this is the story it is connected with mariupol but now it is all connected with kherson kherson there are processes one on one as in crimea, that is, you know, have you heard or not, but there they are trying now the humanitarian aspect of all this in relation to the teachers there, kindergartens and other such budget holidays to whom they are offered to write a statement based on russian images and or there will be no work for them, you understand, it

was necessary in crimea yes, this is the occupation regime for now here we are thinking about what will happen to crimea, uh, we will destroy it, the time will come and we will destroy it, now we need to chop off this pie, and for this it is there . we have opportunities, real opportunities, the second aspect must be constantly shown now, yes , mariupol is very important, but we have occupied kherson region and there are more people waiting for real actions from our side from the side of the military er military-political leadership yes and here we are hmm you know this is very important no wait there for a while time is now working against the enemy in this matter because there are all the female fsb officers and guards. please tell me , using the example of crimea, what

can it cost us in kherson at this time, how much can the crimean scenario repeat itself, or is it something else? was isolated very quickly and it is an island, but kherson and oskar and because the parties there slow down the processes or say how to say not to give the occupier the opportunity to show the population that they will be there very clearly very quickly and very sure they will be there to do the trick is that they will wait for a pension, then they will count on something for some kind of life there, because they are already in their hands, and that is why these processes will not be stopped by appeals alone, and here i clearly tell you that people will continue to do so i have for some time shown my reluctance to

live there and live isolated, and no matter how much its occupiers grow, it is necessary already today to clearly develop such a consistent activity, military activity, the perimeter of contact with the kherson region is very big and he is it is impossible such a perimeter perimeter to come and pretend that they are standing there, we are standing here, you understand . that is why this is a very important process and we need to clearly define for ourselves that or we are helping the local population to perform operas and ah we are waiting for the time when we are there, well, there will be no partisan movement inside. is it fair to

say that people are without weapons, and not because they did not think so, i know for sure, you all know that there were enough people there who would have gone to terabaron and taken them without weapons and would stand there but did not give weapons son leadership, the sbu police, er, escaped from there, this is important, artem, and we remember this feat of the kherson people, who simply went out to the occupiers with their bare hands, and this is not because people want to go somewhere, because people have no choice, they do the maximum, even the one that impossible ahtem something thank you people's deputy of ukraine and deputy head of the forest border of the tatar people dmytro zolotukhin is already with us the director of the post-info institute of his society, author and trainer e autumn and academy deputy minister of information policy 17-19 years old wow dmytro i congratulate you in addition to everything

except everything he is a very good media analyst just very good and i want you know even in some clever questions don't ask a-a especially we have 10 minutes of time there i want to you said what, in your opinion, is the most important thing now on the non-informational front, what should we pay attention to, and maybe what areas should we , journalists, including, strengthen now, thank you for this question, and the last days are being discussed very, very important the question that now appears on the first plan for the first position the fact is that the last two months we feel pretty good uh, there are constantly spreading narratives that are all aimed at winning, but the last days are very important i saw it in several authors with muscles i completely agree nothing will happen quickly now

a very serious moment when the fast time turns into a slow time, it means that when we all ran from the printer's short distance and we all tore our veins in order to provide everything for the front , everything worked out for us, now we have to redefine we need to reorganize and understand that this is a marathon , that there will be no speed of victory, that there will still be a long process of reconquering our land in the east of ukraine, in the south of ukraine and, in general, the victory over the russian federation, which will definitely come and will definitely be, but we should not expect it quickly, this means that journalists and speakers and experts should talk and set people up for long and painstaking work, this does not mean that there is something wrong with us, on the contrary, it means that everything is good with us, that we are carrying out our plan to liberate our land

victory over the enemy, however, we must gain strength so that it is a marathon distance, think about the future, which will be good and bright for us, think about reconstruction and think about the fact that all these processes must take place at the same time, that we must educate and teach our children so that they return to normal learning processes, because covid-us got used to the fact that it can be done online, so that businesses return to work before earning money , so that the form is the economic capacity of ukraine, because it is the second most important front for all of us, so that the flow of weapons and the flow of financial aid and volunteer aid to the troops does not stop, but only increases, for this, again, it is necessary for everyone to understand that this is the marathon distance, which does not yet have a horizon that we can clearly say to ourselves, but all this is necessary

to do, that is, calmly routine normal work to achieve our victory and not to expect not to expect quick accomplishments, but in general, psychologists advise that any fixation that so-so-so must be done, you just have to wait, you have to endure and soon everything will be destructive, he advised that you have to be careful with him and you have to live now do now do everything for victory but understand that this is a marathon distance, that's why i last 2 months i said that for us, first of all, it is the western audience western audience in the context of the fact that we need help with armaments for the ukrainian army and large-scale support , including embargoes and sanctions against the aggressor, and also for us the russian audience was important because we conduct, among other things, information

war, but now we are coming to the moment when the next wave of our work will actualize our internal ukrainian audience, this means that this is the work of journalists and your work is the work of televised marathons to explain and tell people that this work is a routine marathon work, that is, this a long distance and we have to run for a long time, but still the finish will be undisputed and beyond any doubt it will be victorious for us. i am sometimes surprised that people simply do not check the facts at all, and some experts on national channels say, you know, the russians are already outside the internet zone, they are there, uh, there , well, that is, they have no information, this is not true, i

say for the whole country, this is not true, they have access to almost everything via communication, can you hear me dmytro hello hello yes, i apologize, we have something with communication, please once again i repeat, well, very briefly, because we have 5 minutes left. by the way, look at many people say for some reason what uh russians no longer have access to the internet, to youtube or facebook, and i simply deny it, it’s not true. i know that they have access to everything from telegram to all these channels. that is, we are still at least until the time when putin can declare war and really everything this is as much as possible, cut it, we have time to convey something important to the russian audience, i don't mean to persuade them to do something or embrace any information for them that you think is the most useful now in this specific period from my point of view

there is absolutely no point in communicating with her the audience because it lives according to the principle of a religious sect, it is an orthodox il - it is an orthodox sect of fundamentalists, it is not orthodox at all, because the beliefs proposed by putin are rather satanism, and not any of the traditional religious currents therefore, when a person believes that after a nuclear strike will be carried out on someone and then missiles will fly in response, then this person will go to heaven and will be served there by 100 virgins, then it is obvious that there is no point in trying something for such a person to debunk it absolutely religiously minded, i'm wrong, i'm sorry, i phrased the question incorrectly , which messenger should be sent there while there is

internet, for example, yes, about the number of dead , about the fact that the commanders are abandoning soldiers or purely practically purely purely for us for us not for them it is practically important we talk about this a lot in various volunteer communities, people who are from the team or who are going to the prize mobilization somewhere in the middle of nowhere and they don’t read telegram , they don’t read any messages there, they are watching russian tv. therefore, this once again confirms the fact that you will not achieve anything with such communications with messages, er, we are currently working on the disruption of mobilization. it is obvious that secret mobilization is already underway, but the question is that anyway the russian state deceives its own citizens, it deceives them

because it promises some short- term contracts, some salary for the fact that you will go to ukraine to kill someone. and so on, but all this is not a guarantee of protection against risks, because the money promised for the death of breadwinners in the family is not paid , the bodies of the dead are not returned home, and the process is evidenced in particular by the records of the security service of ukraine which she intercepts er from any actions regarding a-and in fact such work in quotation marks on the territory of ukraine only risks and only threats, that is, you don't get money, you can only lose an arm, a leg, a head you can die and after that your family does not receive a penny because

the russian state is just you as always, son, in the end, we have a lot of time, is it practical to write these comments? well, about what you are saying now, i mean in russian public places, under their posts, uh, it’s like i want to spit it all out. does it make sense, is it necessary to do it or is it part of our war? i think that if a person believes that it is his job and he should do it, he should make some contribution, then it should be done if a-a specific person thinks that he will go somewhere in public and write she will get some comments from this it is easier because she will consider that she is fulfilling some kind of duty or duty to her fellow citizens, to ukrainians, this must be done because this is exactly what our principle consists of, if you can and consider it necessary to do something, whatever