then you can’t exactly take and thoughtlessly raise taxes in all directions for this, first of all there is nothing to collect them from that is to pay a banal pension and social assistance to people now, that is why our only way seems to me to be specific industries that we will develop where we are already strong, that will help us develop foreign partners, we are talking with them about the plan marshall in america, but about the brussels plan in europe, and precisely in europe, it should be the brussels plan. well, clearly, which country takes which industry and not just helps us, because we are no longer naive people with you. we understand everything. goods with us, invest in factories and make competition for china. thank you. we have very

little time. each of them, what is the discussion, or is it really such a complex issue, very briefly, if possible, very briefly, during the war, mayors should be given more powers in local self-government, so that they are there, especially in those areas where there are military-civilian administrations the war gives military actions so that they have more powers, just as we gave president zelensky more powers, but at the same time, you cannot disobey all the elected deputies of the local councils, and this balance committee probably did not find the opposition faction categorically object or kyiv park, for example, objects to this law and demands some amendments to be adopted in a different way, and from there the whole discussion, unfortunately, we did not hear each other, that is, the opposition, the coalition of the mayor of kyiv, other mayors of the city did not hear each other, the final text is bad, that's why history i like it very much i don't like it. to be honest, thank you ms. shkrum for participating in the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel. olena shkrum, a people's deputy of ukraine, was

currently working in our marathon. well, let 's mention dmytro solomchuk, also a people's deputy , to the conversation. ukraine, members of the verkhovna rada committee on agrarian and land policy, we welcome you, dmytro , glory to ukraine, and first and foremost, the questions are, so to speak, abstracted from our immediate topic of today's meeting. today, the activities of pro-russian parties were banned in the verkhovna rada. information well, in fact, it is interesting how the representatives of the opsz in the current former showed themselves in this vote, those who left and stayed, in particular, and what this means for the functioning of you in the current composition of the ukrainian parliament actually speaking in general about the question of criteria, we understand that all pro-russian parties in the history of ukraine did not write in themselves that they are pro-kremlin and pro-russian parties in order to have, so to speak, one or another cue

to prove who he works for and with what purpose. the relevant bodies need to work, in particular, because there is nothing in the party statutes for them to, for example, hand over ukraine to russia. well, i will tell you , the vote came very calmly . psg representatives who are still in the session hall are not ran away somewhere else to the world, you behave yourself here, they behave quite calmly in general, you can't even hear them, if i'm so honest, ah, well , it was necessary to ban political parties in the siysky way. today is so dynamic. well, it happened. today and today, the ban will be in effect after the signing of this law. it is clear that, you know, our politicians very often like to change their colors. and

they have strong opinions in that political party. but i think that today's situation is it happened in the country will radically change the thinking of all people completely and in other respects will be related to politicians, look , see what he is a specialist in, how much of a master, how about if minutes, as we have always had, he has always been a double-edged sword, 200 leaders all went to the facebook talk show and once again and they called it as it should be, one mediocre one, one previous one, i know how gas will be cheaper, i know how it will be better , well, no one did anything, only promised, in my opinion, uh, we have to go the political way , after all, in the usa, like great britain, where there is one liter there are no more than two political forces, the proposed russian federation with a

united russia and eternal putin is enough, that is, the ice is actually very thin . our neighbors live in the same way as neighbors of a neighbor. and there, roast barbecue, help with something, yes, you know how neighbors live, they kill each other over a bottle of vodka, if they were not used at all, the russians of ukraine would compare the fact that we are too there were a lot of empty discussions on the ones you mentioned , for example, on the airwaves, i fired a lot of shots in the air, as they say, but less, however, it differs from the russian federation

. the red lines should be precisely such things as the pro-russian standing of another party, but antin asked a question about the criteria, and i will probably repeat it because it is not completely clear. how will we determine whether a pro-russian party is or not? funding, does he say that, well, that is, we can take some neutral party with some neutral name, well, i don't know, there is such a party, we don't have a party of beer lovers, and then they start blowing money into it because of some kind of structure yes, we will all think for a long time where some dude who is a citizen of ukraine lives in berdychev, so everything was bad for him, and then he suddenly became a multimillionaire and started blowing money there. and after that, a certain monster grows up i don't know a dozen or so bloggers or some singers with their mouths. and after that they start to carry some kind of pro-russian hatred, but it happens

. a separate, so to speak, not a political background , so you know well in russian the political parties that existed on the territory of ukraine and their list is indicated there, and according to the first one, i will also say that it is clear who well, i have no idea how ivan ivanovych ivanov appears today as you say yes easily lightly, as they used to appear to shout about the russian topic, is it officially financed by the russian federation, the security service of ukraine - we monitor everything, we see it, as i say, very high-quality work today, and society has changed, ukrainians are not so ukrainians, they have completely changed in these 60 days, not much the fact that our military will definitely never allow this, thank you, thank you

, mr. honey. well, actually, we wanted to focus on what to sow, to be honest with you. well, i really wanted to talk about the most important thing, so i'm glad so about such parties, relatively speaking, some of them are flying out, i don’t know, uh, zaplintus, but it’s as if the planting in ukraine has ended, and it’s actually cool. and it’s extremely optimistic, because with fuel problems, we understand what the situation is like there, some people are mobilized, we understand that there the logistics chains are broken so, i would like to ask you now to detail the situation, how successfully we managed to solve it, and on the other hand, what is happening in our country with the export of our, for example , leftovers, because we should already prepare for the new harvest, no matter how paradoxical it may sound, autumn will soon be here. although may is in full swing, so look at the professionals, the sowing has ended. i think it will be completed approximately no sooner than may 20, if we count all crops throughout the territory

of ukraine, no sooner than may 20, we have three weeks to move to the fields and- and sowing is taking place, uh, of course, in western ukraine, central, more stable, something is missing somewhere, i have problems with fuel . well, it is dangerous to sow mined fields, there are hundreds of hectares of m-m and e-e from sonshchyna, of course , mykolaiv oblast, and also some kind of situation in general, we will have sown there, i think 70-75% of the fields are those that we have e-e regarding export, that’s it the premises are being prepared , the expert is getting a little better for the month of april, 700,000 t of them were exploited, 71,000 t of them , eh, ships, eh, the big ship, a-a, from the

romanian poet constanza , is the first. under the construction of the railway, they have such and such a piece what kind of tracks do we have in ukraine in order to make the delivery as soon as possible, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi agreed with all the presidents of the baltic countries of poland on his behalf that romania has a full green light for export through their transfers from the baltic states, in principle we will be able to ship quite a lot in the ship and to operate it, it is clear that it is very important for gary, they prepare the premises, they also prepare such, you know, field bags in which you can store 500 tons, there are thousands of tons, there are such long ones, they lie in the fields, such 1,000 tons each, please tell me, this is the first time i heard about it, despite all my

interest in the agricultural process, so to speak, one of the largest in the world, if i’m not mistaken, there is one of your big, largest producers, one in spain, one shadow, if i’m not mistaken, and in the kyiv region, that is education yes yes you know only the east such a long intestine as it lies there such a harness is loaded and it can be stored for a year this is the most modern storage because many of the countries i have mentioned are moving away from elevators because it is a big responsibility that the occupiers aim not only at oil depots a and b, elevators where ukrainian grain is stored well, it is clear what they are bringing our country to. and if you take into account everything that has already been stolen, everything that they have exported to the territory of the occupied crimea, in particular, and they

are selling it to crimeans on the ground. as they say to the ukrainians and to the crimeans e there they sell their imports in simferopol and less, however, we will introduce some kind of accounting for what they have already stolen from us and they continue to destroy on our territory the forces of ukraine liberated kyiv there chernihiv sumy is more or less clear the situation has already been explained in terms of technology, and many harvesters were exported, as they do not understand why they need those american john deeres if they have their own house, and what silmash produces and rides on his dons, eh, and this one, but for some reason, the inzhuks wanted cases in classes in eh according to the new, more and more the situation in the last time of zaporizhzhya kherson oblast, unfortunately you know that probably criminals are born criminals because i am well remembered there and the territory, but in 39-33 years of the last century they were under the

barrel of nagan there already in the agrarian area and were the last to be killed and today, under only the bottom of the aksoy, everything is being taken away for everyone, they are taking away all the equipment, ah, bogers, you know, funds are very difficult, because you have to wait a year for the profit and it is fixed . i hope that the armed forces of ukraine , with the help of themselves, will drive him out of the swimsuits as soon as possible, and then we will list everything constantly in a scheme with the deputies. we will talk to the deputies about how to help the villagers in the future, and what is possible. well, there must be some support for them, in any case, they have lost it. such equipment and consider it your own profit, you need all world european leaders to get involved without

thinking about the maximum because the world is waiting for the voice of millions of people will be washed away. tens of millions of people will not have anything to eat, they are already ducking there ugh, what will happen in the fall and winter? yes, we understand that this is an extremely urgent problem, but in any case, we will hope that the united nations organization of the united nations will include all possible resources in order to put pressure on putin, we understand that it is not easy, mr. dmytro . and the second purchase prices and this is

also an extremely important point, but i hope we will continue the discussion on this topic next time dmytro solomchuk people's deputy of ukraine member of the verkhovna rada committee on agrarian of land policy worked live on the espresso tv channel, for which we thank him very much for our broadcast and this conversation with oleg pensen, an economist, mr. oleg. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine, you have been hearing us for some time and our conversation with people's deputy dmytro solovchuk, so the diversification of sources well, let's put it this way distribution channels of ukrainian products, in particular. now we have concentrated on grain, but it is not only interesting, how active do you think this process is and whether it is successful or we manage to reorient your logistics channels, well, look, i really watched your communication with the people's deputy, there are several eh small points, it's probably worth

saying yes. at the moment, ukraine feeds 400 million eh people, eh, our traditional markets are the north of africa, this the middle east is, let's say , china - this is south-east asia, so our markets are traditional, in fact, yes. in our traditional markets, the share of ukrainian wheat and grains in general is extremely high. the federation, that is, so that we understand that what is happening now with the shelling of elevators and the shelling of objects of the agricultural sector is also, in my opinion, an attempt to fight against a competitor in those markets where ukrainians and russians have historically

competed, another one a moment that must also be said here, the question was raised about the benefits of blocking the black sea ports and the impossibility of exporting our grain volumes, and look, last year we collected 72 million tons - approximately 20 million tons is the domestic market the consumption of 52 million tons is the export potential of e.e. we exported approximately at the level of 27-28 million e.e. the latter could not be exported due to the blocking of the ports today in only at the port elevators actually near the black sea ports 4.5 million tons are concentrated these are extremely large volumes when you and i are talking about the diversification of export routes. yes, we have proposals slides from the baltic states

, there are proposals from the poles to create an agricultural hub, and look, i already said our traditional markets. what is the question? when we talk with you about what our partners offer us, this is the baltic states. now let's imagine a logistics arm across the baltic sea, through the north sea, through gibraltar, on the mediterranean renault, the cost of transportation increases a lot, which greatly increases the price of that grain, then once again, i already said 4.5 million elevators. imagine pulling it all to the western border with grain trucks, one more moment. in fact, the capacity of the railway to the west today will make it possible to take out, well, about a maximum of 15% of what went through the ports in the black sea, there are already very interesting proposals

from bulgaria and from romania itself, the romanians are offering er their opportunities at the port, the bulgarians are also offering their ports, and there are questions. today, the export of ukrainian grain, and we already have examples when it is higher than last month's indicators, is somewhere around 25-30%. but we understand that those scoundrels regularly try to destroy not only our railway junctions, but even some or other bridges of this or that bridge across the odesa estuary, well, it's not just that they undermine or try to undermine our defense capability , in this way they want to cut off this romanian corridor, so for the export of extremely important food resources. well, yes, and in fact, your previous dmytro savchuk, the people's

deputy of ukraine, hmmm a question about what the united nations says about the possibility of a world famine, see what it means according to the international food organization, fao, aggression of the russian federation against ukraine can cause famine on the globe and how one and seven tenths of a billion of the population will suffer, i.e. what is the problem? you have a shortage. and i repeat once again, uh, in some food segments, for example, in egypt, ukrainian grain accounts for about 50% of the wheat that is consumed by consumers. you must understand that prices will rise strongly and you may have physical availability

food, but there is such a life, the financial availability of food, that is, if well, the russian federal, that is, this is a story about the noise itself, and i won’t give it to the second, that is, they themselves will somehow try to replace what is now , first of all, no means, first of all, there are sanctions about this secondly, within the country, they themselves are large producers for the export of agricultural products, that is, they really do it in order to have a powerful blow to the food markets, precisely where ukraine is actively present, we are now talking about a grain plant there is still oil, and the situation with oil is even more complicated because , at the moment, our oil refineries are reducing the total volume of seed processing because there is nowhere to export it, that is,

unlike grain, which can lie, oil cannot lie for a long time. let's look at the domestic market of ukraine, the price of oil does not increase because there is an excess of it at the same time today, including in europe, there are restrictions on the volume of oil what is sold jointly by european supermarkets is an absolutely unique situation and that that at the moment europe is ready to remove any quota restrictions on e-e ukrainian exports of the ukrainian agricultural sector, this is precisely an element of what the europeans felt e-e please excuse the taste deficit, well, in particular , they actually felt the taste of such an arctic fox, oleg, if possible briefly, but it would be possible to solve this one, well, somehow, i don’t know how to solve this logistical problem, just do it under the control, i don’t know three or four structures of the european commission, the poles, the germans, and so on, and ukraine, of course, i don’t know one or the other, transport hub, that is, let them inspect everything once and quickly.

and caravans with ukrainian grain went only in one direction, for example, to romania, to poland and germany, and so on. well, look, there is the capacity of ukrainian railways, that is, either the sea or the railways. by railways - these are grain carriers. there is also a question, er, the western border is currently extremely saturated with transportation, well, it is quite difficult to wedge in there, er, another thing, er, when we talk about the european hub, yes, from the point of view of supply of ukrainian products to the european market. it is possible, but our traditional markets are southeast asia, the near east, israel, and china will definitely not go through europe, but with all the desire, one more moment, the russians did not just block the black sea ports, they threw mints there. they even come close to the shores of turkey

, that is, after unlocking, we still have to poison it all, it will still take a long time, so at the moment, the international food organization says that the problems with food will be available not only in the 22nd year, but also in the 23rd year, and jesus, given the complexity of the actual transport and logistics network and the fact that ukraine actually sowed only 70% of the territory this year. and there are areas where there is nothing at all it was not done, well, in kherson oblast, for example. thank you, mr. olezh oleg penza, the economist worked on the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel. thank you very much for this wonderful analysis, and the informational marathon of the espresso tv channel continues . the charity organization of the ukrainian greek catholic church, which sends humanitarian aid to ukraine from various countries, hundreds of tons of food, medicine, clothing and hygiene products have already been received by displaced people throughout

our country and more. response of the fund, we congratulate you, mr. grigory, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, christ is risen, p. seleshchuk, andriy, we would like to ask you about the specifics help, so how actively does the event help our church so that it can accordingly organize and meet the needs of the needy , because it is about millions of people, this is not a joke. truly resurrection. thank you very much for the question. funds such as caritas, which work throughout the country, where there is any country at all.

this is a network structure, which here in ukraine also works in a networked manner, and we have more than 30 different of vocal organizations that provide well and for those well , for a little more than two months, they have given aid to more than 700,000 people, that is, well, this is well, i understand that this is a certain drop in the ocean if we are talking about those who sat and 1 million, which according to the un is currently in ukraine in general as an internal displacement of persons. but nevertheless, it is an important contribution, and here i think the most important thing is that caritas now, because it is an organization rooted in ukraine, can respond to eve because there is now a lot of such attention from the un structures from different internationals want to do something again, but in fact, access to those territories is hotter. well, in fact, they don’t have more, so they mostly

try to go further in western ukraine and don’t go very far, despite the fact that, for example, the carita will work in kyiv oblast and chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast, kharkiv oblast and dniprovska zaporizhia, even donetsk region, continues to have a certain amount of work, which kari and the state carry out and provide this assistance, trying to use those resources from the court. i didn't know that, but now i'm even a little shocked , ah, hmm, mariupol and the shooting of the caritas representative office building, then people died, uh, how did it affect the work of the entire fund, and if we talk about it, how did it affect the organization itself, well, first of all - this had a very negative

effect on the staff of the skaritasom in mariupol, who had already left because it was directly their colleagues who were there, but you know, there is nothing strange here , because it was written earlier in russian publications, in particular, publications of the institute of strategic of research under the president of the russian federation about caritas as such, you know the tools of some i don't know in ukrainization, er, some such inclusion of people living in donbas to the ukrainian identity, and it seems to me that this attack on caritas in mariupol on that building was far from accidental when it was it is known that this is a place where a charity canteen works, where people are given help who are currently in mariupol, and in general it is a career building where people were hiding, including from the bombing. therefore, this is, well, this is this thing

is actually accidental and well, unfortunately, seven people died there, two of whom were caritas workers, and it was definitely such a shock for all of us because we try to adhere to the first certain without but well this this the case was for us, you know, such a moment to review these approaches because we understand parks, we understand mr. grigory that now our ukrainian christian churches are faced with an examination of social conscience, we understand that the social doctrine of the church has been talked about for a very long time and it was prescribed, but now how much are they ready for, for example, with the ordination of nuns, in particular, and so on, to fully work with the same internally displaced persons, to the extent that it is possible to organize the life of the whole of europe for the sake of ecclesiastical europe for the sake of helping our refugees well, you see, it is much easier for me to say how

the church community here is organized in ukraine, and even before the war, we had 8,000 volunteers in various church communities, and now there are several thousand volunteers who join the work and we are talking not only about religious communities, but as you say, monasteries, now all the premises of monasteries are actually filled with immigrants, well, monasteries provide their premises for this and er saturdays. information to avoid, but it worked as such a place where you are like an e-e warehouse so where you could hide from shelling and as a place for distributing humanitarian aid, therefore it was completely reoriented to the actual humanitarian needs of people the price is somehow in languages, but grigory, i hope that next time we will be able to conduct a more detailed analysis of this situation, god help you