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the general national telethon continues and with you the traditional night watch are working in the studio today nataliya ostrovska yevhen kuksim stas yasynskyi and yevhen plinsky i think you have already noticed that we are wearing t-shirts with words of thanks to the polish people and it is not for nothing that yesterday, may 3, poland celebrated the constitution day and well, in fact, i think we have the right to dedicate part of our broadcast to poland to thank the poles who showed up indeed, the fraternal people who have been helping ukraine since the first days of the war, the poles support ukraine like no one else in the world today, supported ukraine before the war, support a special one now and that's why we have something to talk about well, that's exactly the story i want to tell confirms your words and you know , friends, i heard a story that made

my soul so warm poland gave ukraine her heart, this is six-year-old yulia, a citizen of ukraine, she was forced to flee from the war, she had heart failure in principle well, they looked for a long time for a donor and she had a critical state and when she moved to poland, despite the fact that ukraine is not a member of any international organization that coordinates transplantation in different countries, in principle, by law, they did not have the right to transplant an organ, but poland made an exception and gave the ukrainian yulia a chance for life. and we can ask a specialist for more. yes, he is on the phone. this is the head of the board of the national transplant movement. and we saw his post and saw his article. and we decided to listen. well, it's really great . the reason for starting our broadcast there is the date of poland and everything coincided that yesterday was

constitution day in poland and we decided to talk about it and here is such and such a story e.p. yuri good night please tell me what kind of story it is conditions when we know how europeans feel about their legislation, persuade them to carry out such an operation that this is just an exception. we say that poland made an exception. but we understand how serious this step is, and no european country has ever attempted such a thing before. confirm or deny my words. congratulations. well in fact, every saved life is a miracle. in the current realities of ukraine, the miracle is twofold. and you know, i actually want to start with the main thing. now russia is destroying our ukraine , carrying out such a genocide, and when our military with weapons in their hands, they protect our country from this russian aggression, there are also many people in the rear

who need help, including these patients who need organ transplants before the war, ukraine began to develop this field of medicine , there were quite a few transplants successfully, but now the war is all put our life on pause. and there are people who cannot wait and these operations are critically necessary for them in order to live without it, and indeed the case with her ended up in poland and she received this medical care there, uh, at the same level as the poles, yes i now the poles have said that we are ready to provide medical assistance to ukrainians who will receive shelter from us on the same level as our citizens, and this is equal access to medicine, this is, you know, a very great honor. praise and thanks to the polish people for this step, you know, the highest the highest manifestation

of humanity, nobility in relation to our citizens to ukrainians, and this is really very, very much. we thank the polish people and the hospitals, the hospitals that performed this re-operation, this is very important now . thank you, sir, we believe. history is such an answer to all skeptics who tried and are constantly trying to quarrel ukraine with poland, telling that poland is claiming some of our territories, or that poland is there, and dreams that, on the contrary, russia will buy us or something else. this is what this story actually puts full stop in all these attempts to discredit poland's aid, because come on, yes, in two months, poland really was the first to open its borders to ukrainians , it's just doing yes, sir, you remember history , it became the largest hub, actually through which country

everything fell in. do you remember the story with the syrian refugees on the territory of europe? yes, how europe then closed its borders. do you remember last year’s story on the border with the whole of poland, but in belarus, when putin and lukashenko created an artificial problem on the transfer of refugees from this story it is not over, it is still ongoing , that is, every day they are trying to break through, an example of how they include ukrainians in europe, and especially in poland, how they help people get the right to life and the right to live there. i have mind you, no one took away their right to life, but the right in practice was given by the polish heart. we hope yulia will live and remember her for a long, long time. poland will cross the border with internal passports, that is, friends, unprecedented support for me. it is difficult to imagine

, for example, that it would be if, for example, poland closed the border on the first day of the war. yes, it did not open it, it closed it. so that it would happen in ukraine, which house would start. it seems to me that no one is even considering such an option, neither in ukraine nor in poland and here you know the words of the prime minister of poland mateusz morawiecki are mentioned, he very clearly stated that the defense of ukraine is also the defense of poland on those borders ukrainians are fighting for us in debt to them, so i am glad that almost all poles accepted refugees with an open heart the principle is to listen to how nice a guest is in a bohemian house and you know. this is the openness of poland. this is a good word. thank you. and i think it is important that for us ukrainians this word is a big word, a meaningful word, thank you, and it did not turn into a formality when

you know, because there are small sins in our country. when we take generosity for granted from time to time, it is very important here that we do not cross this line and still. yes, it was discredited by some political forces in ukraine and turned into a unique chance for the revival of such a wonderful ukrainian word. the political slogan turned the words of thanks into a political slogan, just as they turned political slogans into the word army. vera's language - it all somehow loses its meaning, but friends, you know, i am worried about him, journalists. yes, we are constantly trying to figure things out. well, nothing happens just like that . because it worries me. why is it for poland, yes, it is being defended by the russian government on

our airwaves. andriy sent this soul to ukraine in poland, who will help us figure it out . why is it for poland, what meanings does it attach to helping us? like that close cooperation between ukraine and poland, what can europe lead to in the future, and good- good night, mr. andriy, and good evening. you are still preparing for the celebration of the day, here is may 3 in poland. well, ukraine, ukraine, poland are friends, yes, the poles are helping us. why is this for them? this is the meaning. i think that uhu. i think that this was very well described today by the president of poland . after all, duda, uh, speaking before the diplomatic corps on the occasion of the national holiday of the day

of the constitution and he said that he made such a comparison . he said that since poland stopped the bolshevik invasion of poland in 1920, it is obvious that it planned this for the rest of europe, and now ukraine is stopping the russian invasion in front of this free world somewhere such words about such words came from the mouth of the president of poland. and this characterizes the fact that they perfectly understand that ukraine now protects poland and protects the whole of them. tsvit from russian aggression from the russian invasion. the press helped me in this by a girl who lived and worked in china for a long time. and now there on

television they started talking about the fact that poland is allegedly not just helping with weapons and all other equipment, it wants to divide ukraine and cut off a piece, what can you say about that? you know, then poland should definitely take the same position as hungary, which wants to take part of ukraine, but poland, on the contrary, helps us with weapons, helps us financially, helps us materially, and helps our citizens who are now in poland. and in general, i do not hear no signals and no statements regarding the fact that poland would like to take the territories that are now in ukraine, that is, well, these trends are known about the beauty of the polish eastern

eastern regions of poland. these are the ones that will belong to the 39th year. the polish state, western ukraine, western belarus, part of lithuania, but if we are talking about ukraine, i don't even see such a discussion, although such a discussion was still a few years ago, and even literally last year, such discussions in of poland for a long time among extreme right-wing parties, but still they were, now there is absolutely no such discussion, there is full support for ukraine, there is an understanding that ukraine stands, that ukraine will win, poland therefore gives us a large amount of weapons, this is half of the aid that was allocated by the polish government to ukraine - this is more than 3.5 billion dollars. this is about 1 billion six hundred. this is military aid, and they

understand very well that this aid, military aid, must be provided first of all, because without weapons there will be no victory. there will be no victory. there will be peace, but please tell me a few days before the war, in fact, great britain, poland and ukraine, they created such a tripartite format of cooperation. yes, there is such a new alliance, and we did not have time to figure out how it will work, how did the war begin, in the context of geopolitical development what sense can this alliance have? it was easier for everyone to pass this crisis and the crisis in 2008 in poland was called the second germany of the 20th

century, that's what we can think and guess and plan about this. look first, this is your question for sure. it must be broken down into -e two e-e two two contexts two two topics first - these are the unions about which you said ukraine poland belarus e i apologize great britain or e-e other small unions that recently was e-e ukraine e was the initiator created or co-initiator e with other states, including the lublin triangle associated trio e-e these are the small unions that can lead us to membership in large unions such as the european championship union, since we currently do not have the prospect of becoming a member of the european union right away. i believe that we have the prospect of becoming members of the european union there is and

it will be implemented and we will even receive the status of a candidate for the european union in the near future, but until all the processes for obtaining full membership take place, we need to use the tactics of small unions and this tactic of small unions absolutely justifies itself because in the case of ukraine, poland, lithuania, us, very good cooperation is aimed at the development of regional cooperation, and each of these countries absolutely benefits from this in order to contribute to and security in this the region and the security of each individual country and in the development of tripartite cooperation, but it is also to some extent an encouragement to belarus to join this triangle if we are talking about the colors in poland

great britain is a very good military alliance because poland and britain are the leaders of these countries , which are among those countries that provide us with military aid, obviously this uh-uh provision of such assistance is done in close cooperation and in consultations uh-uh what, let's say, poland cannot give from its own warehouses in ukraine, that is why great britain has already given, and when there is a level of trust between these countries, then it is much faster to make such a decision, but i think that we need to continue to develop these small unions, of course, with the idea of ​​membership and a united and unique base so that these unions were their native base and preparation for ukraine to join these international

organizations and institutions. if we talk about poland in the next part and we will devote more time to share with you, i was in poland for the first time in 1993 and i still remember i was shocked because everything was brought to ukraine from poland, then you will remember that everything was produced in poland, and all the production was done with such a human face. that is, it was possible to uh, well, that is, all the music that we listened to at that time was possible. well, and all these were recorded in poland at that time audio cassettes, all t-shirts with groups, well, that is, what was interesting about us then, because i was only people, yeah, actually, well, i was 15 years old then, and i still remember my shock and i wanted to, well, i remember that uh, everything that happened it had to be produced by small businessmen, that is, i remember the plan of balzerovych , which they introduced

in 1989. actually, they slowed down a little, but already in 1992, economic growth began, while in ukraine in 1992 there was a complete decline and the economic miracle may not deserve discussion can we something to say to this poland about poland's own miracle and how influential poland is now, of course, during the last few years, poland has had quite heated discussions with the european union, defending its right to be a country that has its own voice, it has its own position, it has its own vision , and the development of the european union did not just take place, these discussions and these relations will not always be easy, but now, of course, poland is counted more and more in the european union, and i think that, in fact, it is the entry of ukraine into the european the union will strengthen both poland and ukraine, so poland is also interested in the fact that it should have more

allies in the european union, such as ukraine or lithuania. i am interested in your opinion. your information may tell you more about the peace agreement, which is currently being talked about by the director of the international policy bureau under the president poland andrzej dubov said that poland will not support a peace agreement that provides for the surrender of part of the territory of ukraine. that is, this is a very sharp statement that defines poland's position that peace is the price it does not consider the territory, but according to your information, yes, that is, how does poland consider this peace agreement, because they are only talking about the project at the moment, there is one thing in poland to the territorial integrity of ukraine, the main thing for them is a logical theory for how do we know what a pragmatic europe is in our picture, yes here hello angela merkel yes there baytb there what do they have there at least a flood yes the main thing is that it does not apply to us and in a distant theory yes

dream from the point of view of pragmatic europe then of course they would be more interesting as soon as possible a fire solution yes so that there are people on their side, it’s still my money and problems, and here, in particular, this is very clear, namely, the defense of ukraine’s position. how can you comment on what is known about the preparation of this peace agreement on the part of poland? some document that is not completely completed, and even more so, not signed. as it dawned on me, it is inappropriate, as in any diplomat, it is inappropriate, because all diplomats know that until it is agreed and signed, all the possibilities and all options and scenarios are possible and open to discussion, but the question is how to a person living in poland communicate with poles, we know that european countries are currently actively testing systems such as notifications, an alarm signal, and tell me what ordinary

poles say, how do they assess a likely russian attack on poland, and if to take the percentage ratio from 100 to zero, well, the poles are obviously worried and worried that poland can also be for such a thing. and the polish government and the polish parliament understand this very well. since the relevant laws on strengthening the country's defense capability have been adopted , territorial defense forces are actively trained here, and their number and weapons are increasing, which they receive, in a word, poland, poland is aware that it can be the next one, it is obvious that the best way is if the saying is if you want peace, then it is preparing for war, and that is why poland is updating its armed forces, modernizing, conducting training, which is currently taking place, and i think that they are aware of the fact

that, if necessary, they can provide it with help ukraine has not only a technical one, but if poland were to be attacked by the russian military, is it possible to have a missile or is it possible to use it using the belarusian bridgehead, then poland is ready to give a serious, serious rebuff, and in terms of quality, well, well, we understand that there is a large number of how many there are one and a half or 2 million ukrainians remained in poland, even well, i think no, no, i think that look, before the start of the war, there were approximately 1.5 million ukrainians in poland who worked, studied, lived, after the start of hostilities, arrived in poland more than 3 million ukrainians, er, about half a million, maybe a little more, er, moved to other countries, but i think that somewhere around four million ukrainians, maybe more than four

million ukrainians are in poland, an incredible number, i planned to announce somewhere 1, 5-2 according to approximate calculations, but if you say that it is four, how does the polish budget cope with this load ? was prepared for this, of course. because no one was prepared for such a war on the part of russia, no one expected that russia would attack, but it happened nevertheless, the polish government adopted a number of laws, adopted a number of resolutions or changes in it to the laws that provide quite serious support to ukrainian citizens who are now in poland and this is a one-time aid of

almost 100 dollars. accommodation, if our citizens live in polish families, it is free social insurance, medical care, medical care, it is free education in kindergartens, educational institutions of higher education, and for everything, funds are needed, so far the polish government, the polish budget copes with it. but of course, this may not be enough, and therefore our joint task is to demand from the european union that the european union of the european commission allocate funds to poland to support ukrainian migrants and such funds are the european commission after of the coronavirus pandemic in poland, about 60 billion euros for reconstruction after the actual coronavirus, but that money will be frozen

due to the fact that there were disagreements in warsaw and brussels regarding the progress of the judicial reform in poland and so far this money is frozen, but it is very necessary in poland, very necessary for ukrainians living in poland and therefore, together with our polish partners, we will demand from the european commission that these funds be disbursed and used as soon as possible because it can to come at such a moment when there will be certain well, i do n't want to say er contradictions, but still, if there is little money and er, then there will be a question of who gets more of it and how quickly, ukrainians or poles. and we do not want poles in poland, if the polish government helps ukrainians, then it is necessary to understand that there are

enough funds for both poles and ukrainians, and this help of ukrainians is not at the expense of poles, their citizens. this is a very, very important comment, and it was really important to understand this, because we we understand that if the money runs out, then at some point the support of the ukrainians will begin to end. if i'm not mistaken in the date today and this is the oldest constitution in europe and the second constitution in the world, that's why poles have something festive about the attitude of poles towards ukrainians, that's telling in one story. my friend came to the station with a child to flee from the war . a polish woman took them to her home, gave them one floor of the house, gave her a car and put the child in a kindergarten for free, bought a bicycle for her

son's birthday. well, if that's the case, it's even more global to look at the attitude of the poles. so, once again, they are trying to beat putin in the most painful way, so that poland is the first in europe fully announced that it is already beginning to give up russian gas, oil , er, in particular, the story yes, you may have seen these reports gazprom is cutting off poland from gas, and everyone thinks that russia is okay it shows its strength by cutting off europeans from gas, and it turns out that russia issued a statement that it will cut off poland from gas, a week later poland finally announced that, you know , we will not take your gas from next year, and in order for the kremlin not to be seen once again, we will complete the fence yes, they themselves and we will cut you off ourselves, but in fact gazprom is already starting to officially announce that they are reducing it, it seems, by almost 10%, already in april the production of russian gas decreased because, well, gradually, gradually, everyone is refusing and poland

here, too, it is such a flagship on the cheeks of energy e refusals. the main thing is that other countries, you know, take an example and look at it, because this is what you are hinting at, and everything that follows is because they say that poland is the second germany of the 21st century. for some time, poland will dictate the conditions in the european union, of course yes, it is possible to accept refugees there, we talked with our ambassador about some difficult economic events, but we decided to talk to a person who tried to create a real ukrainian in poland school, we know that in europe it is not so easy to create an educational institution where you will teach children in a foreign language, and now natalia kravets is in touch with us.

good evening, ms. natalya. please tell me what it is like to create a ukrainian-language educational institution in poland and what kind of attitude do you feel on the part of the poles ? cooperation, which we are so actively talking about today on the air of good evening, is really friendship, i want to emphasize right away because i came back in the 15th year, when putin's attacks were the first, and i had to leave crimea with my family, and when we arrived, we were already here in of course, we all remember these days with the revolution of dignity. and who to help? well, they reached out and helped in anything. that is, our creation of our

organization was also thanks to the poles, who provided us with free premises, showed us and told us. how does it all happen? because it was new to me. as a teacher, it was clear to me. how does a school work, how to make a school, but hmm. our school started as a public organization. please tell me what, in particular, the children study in your center. well, how in any - which school and the main subjects of the ukrainian language, we started as a saturday school and there was only the ukrainian language and literature, history for seniors, different