which we are telling cannot be dry statistics, and i want to say that everything is clear here. he says that ukrainian journalism is so important, so important in this war. but at the same time, there are journalists who simply led to the fact that the renault brand and their colleague died here the so-called, well, they are not his colleagues, so that other journalists were killed, er, ukrainian journalists, not but now they have some kind of patriotism holiday. what do you think , mr. andriy, regarding the procedure for the lustration of such people, i propose to dedicate a room to this it is actually a little more time, because right now, due to the fact that we have an information and analytical marathon. well , everything is moving very tightly. the program is very dense. let's talk about this moment separately. this is an extremely important story. andriy smoliy . thank you for being with us. affairs of ukraine, glory to ukraine , lady for steam, this hero is a hero, vasyl's glory

is maleiko, dear presenters, we haven't seen each other for a long time, and we didn't hear from each other at the beginning of the war. that's right. that's right. the first question is, we'll be like this. did something change in your the official duties of the first deputy minister of foreign affairs, has anything changed in your work specifically and what are you responsible for now, which directions are you responsible for on this most important front , essentially the workload has not changed, it has increased, you can multiply everything that was we did at least 10. and, of course, the system of priorities has changed for the system of the ministry of foreign affairs according to the definition of the president of ukraine and the minister of foreign affairs. number one is weapons. in fact, this is an opportunity for our defenders to be more ready for battles and actually it seems to me that we are working on this track very effectively. further, it is humanitarian aid, it is several priorities, it is food and fuel and clothing and everything related

to medicines, a method of close interaction with relevant ministries, our ambassadors in all capitals are also working on this, and where is putinization of the world if you can put it that way, and the sanctions and ostracism of the russian federation from various international platforms, let me remind you that we have great successes here, in particular, in the council of europe in strasbourg, and , thankfully, human rights are no longer russian the federation actually no longer exists and the isolation is very felt if she returned from new york, where there was a meeting of the aria, where in fact the russian federation, e-e, indicated its place, as is traditionally the case at such sites, and the llc system, which until the 14th year demonstrated a certain balance, found this is a classic of the genre, now very clearly articulates from the general secretary to all officials of various agencies, institutions and structures of the un very clearly articulate what the russian federation is in what

conditions today ukraine and this, of course, is also the result of ukrainian diplomacy are grateful to you personally and in general in our ministry of foreign affairs and you really did a diplomatic miracle , so we do not devalue any of your efforts, we understand how critical the situation in mariupol is and i would like to hear if there is any prospect of extradition of our fighters to a third country, for example to the turkish republic, well, at least that one of us declared a similar readiness and in general, for example, participation in foreign international organizations, without my knowledge on the part of the organization of the united nations on the part of the international red cross to save civilians because everything is growing. a little bit the same and the military is also developing tragically . the third

countries that were shown are ongoing and there uh, look to say that there is a perspective. i'm looking for different participants, i'm just looking for such words so as not to interfere with certain processes, so these are civilians , these are wounded, and these are military. yes, and for each of these groups of people, separate negotiations are going on. about a hundred of our citizens, thanks to the efforts of turkish diplomacy, recently came to kyiv, mr. ibrahim-kalyn. this is actually the head of the office of the president of cardug, on which best directly deals with the issues you asked about, but here colleagues, i apologize for not revealing the details. i absolutely understand what you mean. i

want to ask about the position of the united states in great britain. there still seem to be at least two countries that have clearly said that there is no return to russia and an apology to russia for what it has done. on the line there on february 20, 24, it cannot be in russia, it must release all ukrainian territories captured, including crimea, this is emphasized the position, the position of these countries, ours are even more allies and besides. well, together we will ask you comment on the speech, well, quite a vivid speech by president biden at the jewel factory, but he is still a politician, and somehow we have to understand all these statements. well, you can simply put it on the tongue of an average citizen, what kind of signal do these countries of the united states send us ? the states, including the crimean tatars, have sent a signal that

can be interpreted as unconditional support in all the issues that we raise. look. here i have a flashback to return everyone to the name of 2014, when in fact the russian federation invaded our territory in violation of all possible norms and bilateral and bilateral agreements of our international law and then the world. and we , as ukrainian society, were not ready to give the answer that we were supposed to give in fact what we broadcast to our partners today so that today's war is a direct result such a weak reaction of the world, and the lack of consequences for the russian federation. and this is what we are seeing today, if we cannot contain and stop the russian federation here in ukraine, then this threat will be greater. we actually see it today.

the coalition on various platforms of the soviet union and countries for the country of the european union, this is actually the entire western world, i liked how the ambassador of the carpathians is a representative of the usa - the osce and in vienna, he said at the kalinovsky forum, which was organized by the lithuanian ministry of foreign affairs and colleagues said that this is a struggle between evil and healthy yes and that good must win and good is meant this is ukraine and around ukraine and alongside ukraine today dozens of countries will remember the resolution of the united nations organization when the fear of the country is greater unconditionally supported us, and this is also actually an anti-russian coalition that clearly says that the norms of international law must be respected now, according to how we interpret them, it is actually being prepared, and we see today that bucha is a conditional bucha. i mean this is what we exposed exposed in the towns around kyiv as the most brutal, there are still examples of

russian behavior, they changed a lot , including in the supply of weapons, and this is felt in the tone of the message, readiness to continue supporting ukraine, but today it is very at a high level, and everything by the states, since this is a key country. today, we are very proud of the fact that we have a support system up to the operational level and the autumn conversations of president zelensky and president biden, which does not have a single leader with whom the president talks so often and has contact at the level of blinkers kuliba is regular contact and very active contact and at the level of all others yes. that is, it demonstrates that there are powerful countries next to us and this support is unconditional. i would like to clarify with you whether there are prospects for a meeting between president zelensky and mr. putin, so because there were regular signals, in particular from your turkish colleagues

, that such a meeting is possible in some foreseeable future, but i would just like to hear the official position of our state, there was silence, there were communication problems, so let's hope that now ms. to join us and a meeting that is definitely not avoided, the ukrainian side insists on the contrary on this meeting, president zelenskyi has repeatedly said publicly about this that it is not necessary to hide well, i will say in bunkers, but in fact this meeting is necessary and really appropriate, and he also understands that certain decisions that are fed within the framework of the working groups at these negotiating groups should be made at the highest level, but we are now

all witnessing a different, if not a different phase . a serious offensive is expected in the east and south of the country. every day we actually witness the regular shelling of our cities and this combat military potential. military events will largely determine the course negotiations, the result of these negotiations, i will say unequivocally that the stronger and more powerful our positions on the battlefield are, the tighter the positions at the negotiations are, the more the partners note today that it is quite difficult to trust the russian side, because those agreements, even in such humanitarian corridors as they are, do not work, mrs. yuryshchuk about it is regular, so the negotiations today can be called as an accompanying process, yes, now it is more decorative than the ones that can be significantly said about the results, and it is directly

the outcome of the negotiations and their progress and their essence, their modality will directly depend on our military victories for our mfa. i see everything so simply, sister, from the outside, because these are the two two fronts , well, the most important ones, and i want to ask, uh, so i understand that there is something political there a certain impasse is quite understandable, but with putin and the russians in general, but there is a humanitarian issue. i know that yurischuk and their ministry are dealing with this in principle, but they are taking them away. they say that the russian federation was evacuated , that is, it was forcibly relocated, and among them, well, these are civilians, among them there are many different people, for sure , but there is, uh, yulia paevska, this is taira, a well-known volunteer,

she is a doctor, she is a civilian, she was captured by them there near mariupol, uh, yes themselves, and they do n’t even include her in the lists for the polo exchange, that is, they admit the facts that she is not a military person. well, they don’t include her there, but they shoot fake films about her, they torture her there, for sure. well, for sure, 100%, what can be done, is there a way about such er the humanitarian situation of such people is really difficult , and we understand that it is a tactical task of the russian federation to lead to such consequences that we are witnessing today in terms of hunger in the occupied territories, blackmail, murder, torture , violence, all that we see. unfortunately, today in those cities that are occupied by the russian federation uh, regarding the tire, we uh launched a campaign uh, a communication information campaign, you can see it today and on the networks of our embassies, it's very large-scale. that's how i

see the company, and we consider it proper, you understand eider, because sometimes publicity saves things, and we saw it in the case of crimean political prisoners, and we tried to extract these stories and show them in various details . she is being tortured , what is her strength, counting on the fact that in the end we will be able to free her, including thanks to our partners, mrs. minister, i would like to clarify with you about the prospects of ukraine receiving large transfers of the economic so-called civil aid, we understand that it will be done with the budget, more precisely, we don't even fully understand and we very much hope that we receive from the european union very clear funds aimed at ensuring that we resist this war. for

example, with the receipt of large funds for the existence of the civilian part of our economy, it is really possible to distinguish what we have today in the difficult conditions of the economy, and the government has done everything in order to reformat its work and actually economic models to be transferred to the military model, and in fact we see that today this transit is taking place, the recent visit of prime minister denysaj magel to the united states of america was very successful, very successful, where in fact both the imf and the financial institutions negotiated e- it is the same regular negotiations at the level of european financial institutions, that is, today there are actually two tracks - it is one thing to help the economy in the current conditions, and then it is development. what the president is already forcing all of us to think about

is how we will restore ukraine thanks to which resources which countries will also take on certain tasks for the restoration of reconstruction infrastructure projects and so on, that is, today, again, i will not be able to give all the details here, but these consultations are regular and there is a perspective, in fact, we actually see some already uh results in this direction. thank you very much, minister eminen jabarova, the first deputy minister of foreign affairs of ukraine worked live on the bera ber program to the joint project of the espresso and atf tv channels and we are adding now the situation so now we will add ilya ponomarev, but there are important news that we should talk about now, for our border guards destroyed three russian coloriks, the occupiers hung them on our observation tower on the border with russia,

and our guys took them and so to speak, they took down the russian tricolor, the russian occupiers hung it up that night, oleg is located literally a few meters from the ukrainian-russian border , so there is also important information, so our editors, that ilya ponomaryev of russia, a member of the russian opposition, a member of the state duma in 2007-16 , is already with us. glory to ukraine, mr. ponomaryev, you are glad to see bera bird's programs. the joint project of the espresso and attera tv channels is underway. i want to ask here, i saw your quote . it is probably true that the guy is absolutely certain that putin's successor is legal, any of them. well, as legal , everything is illegal. well, in principle, putin's successors are putin's

successors, so he will definitely stop the war to negotiate there well, if we imagine such a situation yes, but here are these rumors from the sun newspaper and they don’t really trust the yellow press, but what do we have, what do we have, they say about putin’s illness, about a possible oncology operation there, that’s what they call it a possible temporary er deputy there, not even a successor to mr. patroshev, for example yes, that’s what i think. and what is the difference in principle between putin and patrusha, maybe he is even worse , we don’t know him at all, where are you coming from er talking about the fact that putin’s change on conditional there some of his deputy from his team will change something in the war, you yourself worked in russia for many years and you know very well that mr. patorov cannot be the successor of putin because of some law and legitimate procedure because it

is written it is written in black and white in the russian constitution that the only successor of the president during his incapacity is the prime minister. and this is mr. mishustin, that is, to make patrushev even a temporary e-e hmm city watcher, i don't know how it is to speak in ukrainian he needs a fuchsom fuchsom, he needs to change misushya from the beginning on the attack that you are and this is the only way. and if it is not misushya, then the third in line to the throne of imitation is valentina matvienko, the head of herself and the federation, and the fourth is mr. volodian, eh, the head of the state duma, eh and no one else can er claim to er occupy the price who is

better to ask someone else so well and what well and first of all mishustin is a man of a different type and he is such a technocrat and we are now very we understand very well that within the modern government of the russian federation, it is actually the largest the positional environment in russian society is such a layer, well, it is very narrow, but it is no less, and i believe that it is precisely because of this that putin no, no, what kind of operation is the weather now, and he will not be assigned there, because there are 100 to assign bags for it there % dangerous a-a but when i said what you quoted er er i was talking about a completely different scenario no about scenarios er there somehow there is a

voluntary change and er the successor chosen by mr. putin and i was talking about a scenario when er they don't want the bottoms anymore, and the tops can't...when some kind of popular uprising is starting and i think that it will start soon, it will happen if we look at the events that are already happening inside the russian federation with subjugations wants to fight and it’s not yet uh-uh some kind of political movement uh-uh who was there had his own brand there leader leader - it’s all so different but it’s spontaneous a spontaneous movement inside the russian federation and it will grow

well listen it’s spontaneous uh-uh movement so far let's wait for some kind of prosaic movement, more or less powerful, but, so far, i don't see any reason for it, the top economy has not yet been destroyed , etc. but putin can help in principle with these ideas that, according to the intelligence data of some, there were it was made public that he can there on may 9, there on the podium, we decided to say in the last decisive battle, i am sending you my russians against worldwide nazism, led by i don't know the united states and and er kiev and ukraine and let's all general mobilization of all means to all weapon and forward or he uh, there is a chance that he will do something like this partially or completely, well, there is such a chance, uh, because

we understand that the rat who is in the corner uh, he uh, he will fight to the end, and putin, now i think that everything feels more and more like this very rat, but uh, he also understands that uh, this is a decision about mass mobilization, it will not be a popular decision because it changes everything inside the russian federation, because now they are looking at what there is some such series taking place in ukraine, which is taking place on tv a if there is a mass mobilization, it will be their own event and now only one percent of russians are ready to join the ranks of the russian armed forces there, they can and will

support the president, but if he will make a decision which does not concern them themselves, well, look, sir, we talked, i don’t understand very well how it works in a specific case in the kremlin, but on the other hand, we understand that the man with the ax very often decides more than this or that legitimate representative, so relatively speaking gerasimov has an ax, shoigu has an ax of some kind. well, patrushevy has a whole toolkit of those axes , here we see that comrade gerasimov was taken for his comments and directed to the murderous direction, where, according to rumors, he also received a fragment, so to speak, of the fillet part of his not- young well, i don't know whether it's true or not. maybe you could share some additional information, well done. that's for sure. well, you understand that there are no more cowardly people

than all these russian military and security forces. this is the kind of undirected selection that has been taking place since the time of comrade stalin so that they could not create some kind of mutiny there and do something against the political leadership of the country. that is, i do not think that this the environment where this can happen. i think that uh, during the popular uprising, uh, this is uh, the middle layer of the russian military there at the level of lieutenants, captains, uh, they can uh, do something because they are very unhappy with what is happening now in ukraine they think that

that the army was robbed er and that all this was not prepared so that they like ukraine because they really don't like their owner, the leadership , and then they can say something and do something er, but no, they will be er in the vanguard of this movement in my opinion, the most likely scenario is when everything will start from the bottom and then, uh, frightened by the prospect of a senseless to merciless russian point, uh, the top will start doing something and uh, i will try to change uh, my brother ilya, you are, after all , an entrepreneur. you understand this more precisely for please tell me for tina on the sanctions. well, by the way, as of today, the internet is almost free in the russian federation and banks are working in principle. here is the sixth package of sanctions. there are more

powerful sanctions. how will it affect the economy ? how destructive is it? it will be the first question and the second question that everyone there is at least mentally asking themselves - is this the ability of this elite of putin and he specifically to press the red button for a limited or unlimited nuclear strike, because in which case it it will be a completely different world after this decision, well, from the point of view of the impact on the economy, i think that this influence is very serious now, and it is much more than the russian leadership expected when it all started, but it is there is such a thing as a positive balance of the trade balance, and it is now very

positive for the russian federation, and the less imports are now, the more this is a flip, because the profit from energy trade is still not very good. to decrease, but it will decrease in the future and that's why i believe that the consequences will be felt by the citizens of russia but it will probably be closer to the end of the summer or lice and about the nuclear button, well, about the nuclear button, this is such blackmail , that is, putin is very interested in the fact that the whole world he thought he was crazy. well, he himself says it directly, and all his lieutenants, all these fraudsters like lavrov, simonyan, and all

others like that, they always say this because they are interested in the west being intimidated and er, i don't believe that putin will be ready to use it because, well, we all saw those long tables where he sits, he, uh, he won't agree as a person who wants to create suicide , he doesn't want to survive and he doesn't want to rule the world. they told him to imitate what he is doing, but maybe he really starts to launch this anti-semitic bullshit from a sincere lavrov heart, and he has an assignment about tsiniv archyenia, well, of course, the dude overdid it, maybe he said something there, maybe he really

i thought, but i'm 100% sure that it wasn't planned. because putin is carefully trying to be the main friend of all jews that the whole world is his uh-uh, it's a very important part of his strategy uh-uh, that's why i think that it was a mistake on lavrov's part, but in general, it's so simple that the number is happening, what is happening to him, thank you, thank you. dear mr. ponomarev, ilya ponomarev, in russian, an opposition member of the state duma of russia, in the seventh and sixteenth years of the year, he worked on the live broadcasts of the espresso and atr tv channels in bera's program, well, marshmallows will continue now and in the future. and we, zaiders, say goodbye until we meet again soon, the war in ukraine is the main topic for

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